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>185/110 spa/spe ghost/fire with shadow tag

>>58251992
>pyroar is stated like a normal ass modern mon despite megas needing stat bloat to compete at all
The fuck.

>>58251992
>lying on the internet

>Supreme Overlord Mega Emboar
Fake and gay

>Dancer starmie
>Only has Rain Dance

>Skarmory
Reminder that sharpness pumps aerial ace

>>58252121
You don't know how Dancer works, do you?

shift click

>>58252082
>he doesn't know
Throughout history, every chinese conflict has resulted in millions, if not tens of millions of deaths. Emboar is based off a chinese general, and this is already reflected in its hidden ability, reckless. Kingambit wishes he could throw even a tenth of the number of bodies Emboar does.

>>58252145
I'm fully aware every chinese historical event comes with a retardly big number of causalities. I'm still not buying they are gonna give one of the most broken abilities ever to Emboar of all pokemon

>>58252173
Do remember that Kangaskhan and Mawile won the mega lottery in XY

>Worrying about leaked abilities when SV changed half the PLA datamined abilities.

>>58252008
And it's still worse than mega Gengar's 170/130 statline
>>58252125
>the entire bst boost goes into attack and speed
>it knows drill run
YOLO SKARM BROS, GET IN HERE

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$10 says YouTube will be full of "why Mega Meganium is the worst mega evolution" copy-and-paste template videos.

Hope that Pokefags are happy they still get to shit on Meganium.

>>58252229
honestly 80/130/130 with its resists is actually a pretty decent statline
natural cure is less then ideal as an ability but they'll probably change it for champions

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Tinted Lens Mega Scolipede, with 130 Atk and some actual bulk for Swords Dance, plus access to EQ and Rock Slide (Aqua Tail plz comeback)

Can’t wait for the Mega Beedrill bros to cope and sheete on Twitter and 4chan

>>58252229
>80/130/130 bulk
>learns leech seed, synthesis, and natural cure
>guaranteed to learn moonblast
>102 attack lets it run earthquake if needed. Can also learn body press
It's alright, but will it be enough? Probably not.

How about leaking the dex and any new movepool additions as well?

>>58251992
>so many slow frail mixed attackers
>meganium still has fucking natural cure
>malamar's stats were dumped into special attack when it's a contrary superpower abuser
holy fuck they're total garbage, this is too retarded to be fake

>>58252332
and Froslass attacking stats only goes up to 100, with 70/95/95 bulk and 120 speed

I wanted 120 attacking stats and 130 speed, was that too much to ask for?

But hey at least they min-maxed Eelektross by making it fast

>>58252332
Also Meganium never had Natural Cure

It had to settle for Leaf Guard, which was way worse

>Dancer Mega Starmie
>It doesn't learn any dancing moves

>>58252397
dancer copies the opponent's dance moves, anon

>Mega Dragonite has Inner Focus even when it is so fast it doesn't need it

Why couldn't it keep Multiscale?

>>58252396
wait, seriously? wow.

>>58252417
gamefreak is obsessed with doubles and thinks ignoring intimidate is a fair trade

>>58251992
>Mega Hawlucha has Defiant
Yes please let it shit on Intimidate users.

Mega Excadrill is the new Mega Garchomp

>98 Speed
>Tough Claws

It isn't bad considering its Attack would be 145 and Iron Head and High Horsepower/Drill Run would be boosted (you would want to run them over Earthquake), but you would still prefer to use regular Sand Rush Excadrill

>>58252414
>75 Speed Starmie copied Dragon Dance/Swords Dance

Dancer Mega Starmie can only be good if the opponent uses Quiver Dance

>>58252446
No, because mold breaker Excadrill was still very strong. The new mega makes it even less reliant on sand than it was before.

>>58252437
>slower than regular Hawlucha
>loses unburden
This is a massive downgrade unless the terrain seeds are dexcut in gen 10.

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>Mega Delphox only gets a 10 point boost in special attack
>These niggers had the audacity to waste 10 points on Delphox's worthless attack stat
>50 points dumped into speed and the rest gets shoved around into the defensive stats
>Is still considerably slower than Greninja, because fuck you
>Most every other special attacking Mega didn't make this mistake and fully invests into special attack fully
I fucking hate Gamefreak.
>>58252450
Anon, the doc literally says its speed is 145, it's attack stat is 75.

Why are we shitting on natural cure being given to a tank? That makes mega Meganium much more difficult to wear down and adds status absorbing utility, especially before sleep gets banned again next gen.

I will admit that aromatherapy being dexcut is still a sick joke by Game Freak

What can Mega Greninja even abuse Technician with, assuming of course this isn't just a weird placeholder? There's Water Pulse I guess, Water Shuriken and a few other random bits of coverage like Icy Wind, Mud Shot and Rock Tomb, outside of the absurd speed of this mother fucker, it feels remarkably whatever.

>>58252547
Shadow sneak is a big one. Game Freak will probably arm it with several new moves like they did with mega Heracross. Loaded dice water shuriken is going to be fun.

Assuming these are true (they are fake but I'm bored):

>Clefable: made to spam Hyper Voice
>Starmie: Dancer is useless on it unless the opponent uses Quiver Dance
>Victreebel: Nice ability, 50 Speed makes it useless, maybe for some Trick Room teams
>Dragonite: Very good stats, 96 Speed allows it to use Inner Focus to an extent but it would have been better with another ability
>Meganium: actually pretty good for stall teams
>Feraligatr: 165 base Attack and 88 Speed on a Water/Dragon Pokemon that can learn Dragon Dance and has Strong Jaw is actually insane. Probably the most broken Mega here after Chandelure
>Skarmory: Offensive Pokemon with its base 140 defense. Sounds good but it's also even more vulnerable to Magneton than ever
>Frosslass: Weavile got Intimidate
>Emboar: 65 Speed is what makes it bad. Mixed attacker but with not enough speed to use it or to be in a Trick Room team. I don't know now if it can learn any priority move but I think it can't
>Excadrill: Not bad but not good. It can't be the abuser it is in sand teams and Mold Break has some advantages Tough Claws don't have.
>Scolipede: hits fast and strong, it doesn't do not-effective damage but I think regular Speed Boost Scolipede is better
>Scrafty: It has good defenses and enough speed to make it go berserk a little but that's all
>Eelektross: It can be an actual threat with that 155 Attack but like regular Eelektross it should still suffer against stall teams. It's strong and fast but doesn't scare me
>Chandelure: 185 Special Attack and 110 Speed Shadow Tag. This Mega is going to be Uber on Day 1
>Chessnaught: Not impresive. Unlike Mudsdale it has Synthesis, but Chessnaught has so many weakness to abuse its defense stats and ability
>Delphox: very fast and hits hard. And it has Levitate. Actually good Pokemon but easy to get rid with its low hp and defense
>Greninja: base Greninja but faster. Meh
>Pyroar: another mixed attacker with several weakness and bad defenses

>>58252564
>Floette: nuke once, die in next turn. It has a surprisingly good special defense though
>Malamar: Another "hits strong and fast but not enough defenses to keep up". Contrary Superpower is still a thing
>Barbaracle: Very high attack and defense, can spam Stone Edge 100% accuracy, low HP and bad speed
>Dragalge: This one can actually do some stuff in a Trick Room team but doesn't have any actual very high stat except special defense
>Hawlucha: anti-Intimidate Pokemon. Can actually do stuff with these Attack, Defense and Speed stats and Roost
>Zygarde: Iku-Z
>Drampa: Very high special attack, subpar hp, defense and speed
>Falinks: Good attack, good defenses, meh speed and HP

Biggest threats for me are Chandelure and Feraligatr

The STAB Tough Claws Close Combat w/Shell Smash dream is dead

+2 252 Atk Barbaracle Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Iron Valiant: 242-285 (83.7 - 98.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252 Atk Barbaracle Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Great Tusk: 354-417 (81.5 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I guess Adamant is the way to go

>>58252564
>Mega Skarmory afraid of Magnet Pull Magneton
>When Skarmory has learned Drill Run for several generations now
>Mega Emboar with priority moves
It has always learned Sucker Punch via breeding, plus Flame Charge can patch up that speed.
>>58252580
Mega Malamar desperately needed Psychoboost, Deoxys barely uses the move as it is.

>>58252580
I’m not really scared of Strong Jaw on Feraligatr when Dragon/Water biting moves don’t even exist. Does Fishious Rend count? Even if it does, I don’t see him getting it. So he’s just a Crunch/elefang spammer? Doesn’t seem all that threatening, certainly not on the level of Chandelure.

>>58252555
>loaded dice
>on a mega
anon...?

>>58252639
The scary thing isn't Strong Jaw. The scary thing is 180 Atk 88 Spd Feraligatr after 1 Dragon Dance

>>58252450
The obvious use case is Volcarona as a doubles partner to provide access to redirection and quiver dance

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Why is Gamefreak allergic to making Dragon or Rock biting moves? There's so much room for creativity and design inspirations. Hell, crocodiles, caimans and gators doing death rolls is right there.

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>>58251992
>Shauntal is so hot.
Agreed.

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>>58251992
great taste anon

>>58251992
I don't believe this shit for a second

>>58251992
>feraligatr
>strong jaw
It is absolutely hilarious how game freak made a mega that is objectively weaker than its base form in every way.
>no stab crunch or ice fang its only two strong jaw moves
>dragon typing as its secondary stab with huge attack stat but no moves that can use strong jaw
If it had kept sheer force it would have been a side grade. Strong jaw “lore” fags effectively won their troll, enjoy your useless pokemon.
I love the cope that its gonna get fishous rend btw, since alligators and crocodiles definitely have gills. Fucking embarassing.

>>58252145
Millions died Total emboar victory.
>>58252173
You really don't think they would give broken abilities to a fire starter after Libero, Speed boost,intimidate and Unaware?

Bro, I know stuff like Sableye mawile and khanga got blessed in the mega lottery without shill status but this is a fire type we are talking here, they will make it good wether we like it or not.

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>>58251992
>dragalge
>atk 105

>Physicist pyroar

>Pokémon that become slower

These are so fucking bad that I'm sure they're real.
Only GF could come up with these total shitmon spreads.

>>58252639
The only biting moves he gets are crunch and ice fang. The guy you are replying to is a retard.
To add more insult to injury, the 165 base power means he is weaker attack-wise than a sheer force + life orb gator on basically any attack except crunch and ice fang, which are both useless due to no stab.

>>58252639
>>58252800
>>58252962
Why do you retards assume she isn’t going to get a new signature move to make use of Strong Jaw?

>58252971
>she

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>>58251992
>Natural Cure
Flower Veil, Misty Surge or Triage would all be better options.

>>58252971
>she
>signature move
I’m not even going to bother. You are a baiting retard and not even intelligent enough to bait.

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>>58252971
>she
>calling others retard
I know this is bait but why do you think gatr would get a unique move for itself when no starter that got a mega got unique moves for their mega? Not only that but a water biting moves that it can’t learn already exists.
Could you at least come up with better bait?

>>58251992
Starmie, Dragonite, Meganium, Excadrill, Chesnaught, Zygarde and Falinks being the big ugly failures by getting abilities that are objectively worse than their base abilities.

>>58252820
Yeah because all fire starters have always been amazing lmao

>>58253023
dancer is fucking broken though lol

>>58253048
Imagine switching in to get the Clangorous Soul boost or the Aqua Step boost

They're so weird they must be real.
Any fan would have done something better

>>58253048
Dancer also copies offensive moves, including Fiery Dance, Revelation Dance and Petal Dance without eating your move slot, people underestimate how broken this fucking ability is in doubles.

>>58253045
At some points they were decent or good, gen3 had zard and Blaziken actually doing shit.

Emboar, delphox and thyplosion did miss the mark, as fun as reckless was it is still not a good pokemon against anything not named stall.

>>58252748
Too violent for Pokemon

>>58252998
>>58253014
They gave signature moves to the Hisui and Sinnoh starters in LA.

>>58253119
Seems like Mega Starmie and Volcarona will be good friends

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>>58253141
Delphox wasn't too bad in gen 7 OU with a choice scarf, mainly due to Kartana and Toxapex being everywhere, you could revenge kill quite a few dangerous threats and Switcheroo your item with stall fuckers like Pex and Blissey. It got me to 1800 in the ladder.
>>58253165
Right, and Mega Malamar stabbing it's own brain and giving itself a lobotomy isn't.

>>58253186
>Right, and Mega Malamar stabbing it's own brain and giving itself a lobotomy isn’t.
There’s a difference between show and tell. We don’t actually see Pokemon doing the stuff described in their Dex entries.

>>58253186
>its tentacles don't just look like a brain, they actually have its brain inside
cute reference to real cephalopod anatomy, malamar is easily an all time top 5 mega i literally love this thing

>>58252672
Oh fuck you're right.

Wow, it's really just torrent Greninja with better stats

>>58253196
We see it multiple times in the ZA gameplay trailers and in the reveal trailer, with Malamar going wide eyed because it's piercing it's own brain and Pokemon has had other really fucked up things for a very long time, a simple move that shows Feraligatr spinning while biting it's pretty would be pretty cool, plus Feraligatr really could use a bit of variety in it's movepool and many Pokemon in general would love to get a good Water biting move.
>>58253249
It's very tough for me to decide my favorite between Mega Malamar, Chesnaught and Delphox when it comes to the newer Megas, when accounting for the ones ones, I don't know if Mega Malamar beats Mega Sceptile, Mega Charizard Y or Mega Aggron in terms of being my favorite, but it's pretty up there.

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I wonder how Mega Eelektross and Mega Raichu X would be distinct, and who would have the better niche?

The former has the physical movepool but the latter is probably gonna be faster

>Dragonite: Very good stats, 96 Speed allows it to use Inner Focus to an extent but it would have been better with another ability
But it'll face stiff competition from its arsenal of powerful items. Dragonite is one of the best users of held items in the entire game.
>Frosslass: Weavile got Intimidate
It's not strong enough to be offensive. You want sash for its flagship spikes set. What is this thing even trying to do?
>Emboar: 65 Speed is what makes it bad. Mixed attacker but with not enough speed to use it or to be in a Trick Room team. I don't know now if it can learn any priority move but I think it can't
This thing is going to be a complete bastard on VGC sun teams. It's also got sucker punch for priority
>Excadrill: Not bad but not good. It can't be the abuser it is in sand teams and Mold Break has some advantages Tough Claws don't have.
Great Tusk II. You heard it here first
>Scolipede: hits fast and strong, it doesn't do not-effective damage but I think regular Speed Boost Scolipede is better
The first speed boost is the most important. Set up a swords dance on the first turn, then mega evolve on the second. This is how Mega Sharpedo works. Speaking of which...
>Feraligatr: 165 base Attack and 88 Speed on a Water/Dragon Pokemon that can learn Dragon Dance and has Strong Jaw is actually insane.
And then Azumarill switches in and its new dragon bite move deals no damage. At least mega Sharpedo's crunch would put a huge dent in it and potentially pick off the weakened check. Now, if water were to finally get a biting move...
>Eelektross: It can be an actual threat with that 155 Attack but like regular Eelektross it should still suffer against stall teams. It's strong and fast but doesn't scare me
You know what else doesn't scare you? Its lack of a good physical electric move
>Chandelure: 185 Special Attack and 110 Speed Shadow Tag. This Mega is going to be Uber on Day 1
Outclassed by mega Gengar in AG. Gentlemen, I present to you Pokemon's very first Uber BL!

Save for Chandelure, this is an assfest.

>Mega Victreebel undoes the Sp.A/Sp.D split
Cute

>>58253473
You'd think Gamefreak would stop being petty over letting Electric types gaining general access to Volt Tackle instead of just the shillrat, but nope, they could just give shillrat a stronger Electric move and let every other physical Electric type have a risky but powerful option, but NOPE.
>Azumarill stopping Mega Gatr in it's tracks
One hopes it gets Poison Fang or some good physical option to counteract that.
>Mega Emboar
I feel like it's gonna be busted in singles too, it could even patch up it's speed issue with Flame Charge.

>>58253167
Sinnoh starters didn’t get signature moves and hisuian starters are not megas you dumbfuck idiot

Clefable will probably get Quiver Dance

>>58251992
I was really excited to find out the actual leaks until I realized I don't actually care about any of the new megas

>>58253558
>Sinnoh starters didn’t get signature moves
>what are Headlong Rush, Raging Fury and Wave Crash

None of them change their typing? GAY.

>>58253656
...not signature moves?

>>58253689
>meganium
>feraligatr
>clefable
>barbaracle

>>58253689
>Clefable - Fairy/Flying (hence Aerliate)
>Meganium - Grass/Fairy
>Feraligatr - Water/Dragon
>Barbaracle - Rock/Fighting

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Please let Emboar be good, he's my favorite Pokemon and I'm happy he's getting more love

Bump

So we're all in agreement that mega Excadrill is going to be topping the usage stats before the DLC adds Lando-T and Great Tusk, right?

>>58254082
You’re talking about Pokémon Champions, right?

>>58254133
Correct

>>58253023
How is Natural Cure worse than Leaf Guard?
Unlike Leaf Guard Natural Cure actually let's Meganium use Rest.

>>58254208
I bet he doesn't even realize that rest fails in sun if the user has leaf guard.

>>58253714
They shared the moves with Ursaluna, H-Arcanine, and Basculegion

Bump

>>58252437
>Start the battle
>Already got intimidated
The Staminafags had a better theorymon than this

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>>58251992

>clefable
>aerialiate

bullllllllllshit.

>meganium
>natural cure

why do they hate meganium so much.

that gator does less damage than sheer force life orb gator.

>tinted lense scol

would break the game. max invested bulk, swords dance turn 1, attack turn 2, mega and sweep turn 3.

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>It just gets bigger

>>58255271
252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Crunch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 169-199 (24 - 28.3%) -- 95.5% chance to 4HKO

252 Atk Strong Jaw Feraligatr Crunch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 207-244 (29.4 - 34.7%) -- 8.9% chance to 3HKO

it does more damage.

>>58252272
doesn't need to invest in speed either, just spend a turn as reg

>2 of these outspeed Calyrex Shadow Rider, are you happy now anon?

>>58251992
>no new abilities, even on Zygarde
100% fake or placeholder

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I've played a few fangames that gave starters a third set of abilities and Iron Barbs Chesnaught was amazing in one of them, Mega Chesnaught with Stamina seems decent, but it has so many common weaknesses in Fire, Ice and Fairy, not to mention it gets deleted by Flying types, but on the other hand it switches freely against Dark, Ground, other Grass types, many Water types and even a few illusive Rock moves here and there. I'm trying to gauge how good it would be, especially given it's physical attack only got boosted by.....10 points....and it's worthless special attack got boosted by 20......
They did the same shit with Delphox by wasting 10 points in attack for no good reason when Delphox desperately needed those points put into special attack or at the very least defense.
That's how you know these leaks are legit, holy fuck Gamefreak are a bunch of filthy fucking retards, what's even more insulting is them locking these Megas behind a paid subscription AND a limited time ranked mode season.

>>58251992
They finally decided to buff Pyroar but only in its Mega by giving it a good attack stat rather than give it any more decent special moves or replace Moxie with Competitive lol.

>>58251992
>dragalge
>44 speed
yeah, its mega is absolutely wasted. unusably slow.

>>58255354
who needs attack when you have stab stamina body press.

>>58251992
weird that they would give skarmory sharpness when aerial ace is still only 90bp and therefore worse than brave bird, the only physical steel slicing move is fucking behemoth blade which it's absolutely not getting, and it doesn't affect the only coverage you would realistically run on an offensive skarmory set. (drill run)

I really hope a lot of these abilities are placeholders, Inner Focus Mega Dragonite seems so boring, you already get ability baseline to block Intimidate and flinches, it really feels like they should have gone for something else.
Defiant is fucking garbage on Mega Pokemon given Hawlucha will get Intimidated before it even Mega Evolves.
Mega Dragalge getting 30 points wasted in attack is just horrid.
Mega Malamar is.....weird......without anything good to abuse Contrary with, the massive special attack boost seems completely pointless, do you lads think it might get Overheat as a joke? It already learns Flamethrower and I doubt it would get Psychoboost handed to it.

>>58255289
Okay now calculate using an actual damaging stab move instead of a useless move like crunch:
252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Liquidation vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 269-317 (38.2 - 45%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Feraligatr Liquidation vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 220-261 (31.2 - 37.1%) -- 80.4% chance to 3HKO

As you can see, outside of crunch, ice fang and if it even gets it: poison fang, it does OBJECTIVELY less damage with every other move it could use with sheer force and objectively less damage in general than a sheer force + life orb gator using its stab.
If it had simply kept sheer force it would have boosted dragon rush and breaking swipe while being backed by a 165 base attack power.

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>>58251992
>Mega Chandelure with Shadow Tag
>Mega Eeelektross (Movepool is insane)
>Mega Scolipede

What the fuck are they feeding Unovan pokemon???

>>58255289
Ice fang + strong jaw 165 base attack is about equal to ice punch + lifeorb/sheer force 105 base attack
Crunch is objectively stronger on his mega
Both of his mega stabs are weaker than base form gatr outside of moves like Outrage.

It effectively has no ability when it can’t even use its fucking stab with its ability. If they really didn’t want it to keep sheer force then they should have at least given it a defensive ability so it could setup DD Outrages. Its worthless.

>>58255491
Unova has always been game freak’s favorite child after Kanto.

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>>58255289
Base with Life Orb and 252 atk evs. Neutral Nature vs the eviolite chansey you put.
Liquidation 38.2 - 45%
Outrage 27.5 - 32.5%
Dragon Rush 30 - 35.2%
Ice Punch 22.6 - 26.6%

Same set but with water dragon typing:
Liquidation 38.2 - 45%
Outrage 41.2 - 48.7%
Dragon Rush 44.9 - 52.9%
Ice Punch 22.6 - 26.6%

165 base attack, water/dragon, 252 atk evs, neutral nature, strong jaw ability and no item vs the same chansey
Liquidation 31.2 - 37.1%
Outrage 44 - 52%
Dragon Rush 36.8 - 43.5%
Ice Fang 23.8 - 28.1%

What you can take from this is that outside of dragon moves and crunch it is actually weaker than its base form and it would have been a lot stronger in general if it had kept sheer force or have been given an ability like tough claws.
I like how game freak didn’t have the balls to powercreep mega charizard x at its own game so they decided to simply nerf mega gatr to be about as worthless as mega sceptile cause they could have easily given him tough claws too but even sheer force would have been enough to powercreep zard x.

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Given none of the currently existing Fairy moves besides like Fairy Wind and such fit Meganium and that Feraligatr doesn't have any STAB biting move, how likely is it Feraligatr gets a new signature move? Gatr already gets a ton of Dragon moves and has for a long time, Outrage, Dragon Claw and Breaking Swipe are fine, Scale Shot is shit without Loaded Dice, but none of them work with Strong Jaw and none of them are great with Sheer Force either.
>>58255497
Marvel Scale would be a neat addition to Mega Gatr, it's scales growing into a fake armored head and spikes is already part of the design, so thematically it fits somewhat, and it would always allow for a free Dragon Dance.

>>58252499
Because it's Meganium.
You can give Mega Meganium a combination of Filter & Good as Gold and people will still shit on it.

>>58255520
The only way to save it if they really want to keep strong jaw is to give it fishous rend or add a 80-100 bp water or dragon biting move so that it can actually use its stab. Since the entire point of the mega is that it gets dragon typing then ideally it should be a strong 100 bp dragon biting move so it can actually sweep after eliminating the fairy type on the enemy team.
Best you can do with it right now is try to setup DD Outrages (and not use strong jaw at all). At least its fast enough to setup in 1 turn instead of 2 unlike base gatr.

>>58255540
>80-100 bp water or dragon biting move
Remember that Game Freak is an absolute retard with Strong Jaw

>no STAB biting moves for tyrantrum, with the elemental fangs (and poison fang) being egg moves
>drednaw doesn't get STAB on jaw lock
>completely wasted on hisuian avalugg with it only having ice fang

Fear and expect the worst.

>>58252499
>Weedle press poison sting!
Serious answer : This thing has stats but vurtually no ability with a less than ideal defensive typing in an offense oriented tard powercreep metagame, it's a waste of a mega slot, i guess you could couple regular with something really weak to ground if you don't have Tangrowth available.
But hey, at least this means Meganium walks out of this yearly slop with fairy moves !

>>58255560
A Dragon biting move still not being a thing is wild to me, they could have so easily made a move called something like "Tyrant's Maw" with 75 to 80 base power and give it a healing effect or a very high chance of lowering defense, it would be pretty good on Tyrantrum and Mega Gatr.
I hate that Fishious Rend is the only Water biting move, come the fuck on, like I brought up in another post, crocodiles biting their prey and doing a death roll is right there.

>>58255579
Game Freak subverting expectations is something that people should be 100% aware of right now.

>>58252139
Bump

>>58255481
i was trying to make a fair comparison with a move gator could use.

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Not planet sized but are you happy now?

>>58255560
the problem is that gamefreak sway between being incredibly over balanced balanced and just not giving a shit.

>>58255777
Not really an argument if you are gonna use the only move that actually gets a reasonable boost in its entire repertoire while ignoring his stabs and the rest of his moveset. Even before the problem of it only getting two biting moves, there isn’t a large repertoire of biting moves in existence it can actually use with it making thematic sense nevermind the issues behind the fact that the abilities movepool has zero synergy with its typing. STAB is very important for offensive mons, especially megas who don’t get held items and especially a mega who gets dragon as its subtype which is only useful offensively because of how little resists it. So its kind of fucking ridiculous to mega evolve feraligatr only to use fucking crunch and deal less damage neutrally than if you were just using Liquidation or Outrage. Dark isn’t a phenomenal offensive typing either and you will get way more mileage neutrally out of his base stabs so its fucking embarassing that base feraligatr can do more damage with liquidation

>>58255515
wouldn't even power creep zard x that badly. different typing, more speed on x, the added uncertainty of beding able to stealth as either x or y. tough claws gator could be good.

>>58255579
chomp or maul would work.

>>58252499
because its not exciting.

as a grass type its immune to most status moves any way. can't be spored or sleep powdered. it won't stay in on a poison move because it will die and its not going to survive long under threat of fire either.

its good for scald, will-o, t-wave, toxic and it can rest stall.

its defensive profile is mixed. It folds to a few things and can switch in on a few as well.

from the looks of it, its a pivot mon. switch in on an attack, take a hit, rest it off, switch out, suffer no consequences. maybe strike back with moonblast, leech seed, body press, toxic, sleep or energy ball. its viability is utterly dependent on what else is viable. whether it answers common offensive threats or folds to them.

>>58251992
>sissy tag
Strong but lame.
I would have preferred something more unique

I hope it's fake

>>58252173
fire type starters always get the best shit. speed boost, tough claws, drought, unaware, the list goes on.

drain punch emboar will be massive.

>>58255825
chandelure didn't get shadow tag the first time. probably another place holder.

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They designed these two to fuck Calyrex up

>>58255824
Tangrowth simply does its job better without a mega.
Luminescent has shown Meganium needs Triage.

252+ Atk Excadrill vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey
earthquake: 34.9 - 41.1%
iron head: 27.7 - 32.8%
rapid spin: 11.6 - 13.7%

252+ Atk sand force Excadrill vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey
earthquake: 45.2 - 53.3%
iron head: 36.2 - 42.6%
rapid spin: 11.6 - 13.7%

252+ Atk Tough Claws modified Excadrill vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey
high horsepower: 45.3 - 53.4%
iron head: 38.1 - 44.9%
rapid spin: 15.9 - 18.7%
best part is, its perfectly viable to run exca without an offensive item. It usually runs air balloon anyway. you can keep sand rush exca available until you need to kill with claws.

>Skarm
If you can proc weak armor and SD on the same turn, mega for free real estate

>>58251992
Hope it’s fake. Most of these are pretty bad and disappointing without substantial movepool additions.

>>58251992
I don't understand the strategy behind Mega Falinks.
It's slower than base form, so you can't use its signature move.
It has low HP, so it's not a great tank.
It has priority in first impression, but I can't think of how to use it.

PS. Obviously, this is all assuming this link is real.

>>58255824
Water/dragon is an exceedingly rare typing that very few pokemon have.
Its only weaknesses are fairy and dragon. Zard x is faster but the important thing here is that 1 DD makes feraligatr fast and strong enough to sweep most things, zard x has a severe lack in power gatr is an entire 35 points ahead, moreover its typing is not even nearly as good as gatr and it has common weaknesses.

>>58253714
The other anon is right, just because other pokémon have access to them doesn't detract from being signature moves. Like how Spiky Shield is Chesnaught's signature move despite other mons being able to learn it.