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Why isn’t this just Mega Pikachu
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>>58253983
Because pikachu isn’t fully evolved
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>>58253983
It already is. Raichu has practically been relegated to a Pikachu form at this point
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>>58255234
Neither is floette
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>>58255244
The Eternal Flower Floette is fully evolved. Regular Floettes are not, and will not get a mega.
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>>58253983
Because the dlc will talk about how the two stones are the same megastone for raichu from two different universes, one where Yveltal powered the machine and the other where Xerneas did.
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>>58253983
because pikancer isn't the final stage evo.
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>>58255249
>The Eternal Flower Floette is fully evolved.
Source: Ass
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>>58255274
>Source
https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/670.shtml
>Floette's Eternal Flower form, obtained via event, cannot breed, and it cannot evolve. It also cannot change form.
Fully evolved. Only fully evolved Pokemon get megas, without exception.
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>>58255288
>Only fully evolved Pokemon get megas, without exception.
Floette isn't a fully evolved pokemon
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>>58255290
Correct. However the Eternal Flower Floette event Pokemon is fully evolved, and that's what's getting a mega. Not regular Floette, nor Florges. Only that one.

No NFE has a mega.
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>>58255292
>However the Eternal Flower Floette event Pokemon is fully evolved
Floette is a middle stage
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>>58255294
The Eternal Flower Floette cannot evolve into Florges.
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>>58255296
Proof?
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>>58255299
Datamining the Eternal Flower Floette, and ZA leaks. If there was an Eternal Flower Florges we'd know about it already.
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>>58255302
You didn't post any proof
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>>58255302
Eternal flabebe doesn't exist either yet we fully know that's the pokemon floette evolves from
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>>58255303
See >>58255288
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>>58255306
>Serebii
lol
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>>58255309
Serebii uses datamined information.
The Eternal Flower Floette won't evolve.
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>>58255244
>>58255274
>>58255290
>>58255294
>>58255303
>>58255309
stop pretending to be retarded
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>>58255311
Serebii also shows hows how eternal floette doesn't evolve from flabebe even though floette evolves from flabebe
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>>58255314
>No argument
>Mass replying retard
Meltdown!
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>>58255318
Correct!
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>>58255328
Then i guess just because joe merrick said so that means eternal floette doesn't evolve from flabebe even though that makes zero fucking sense
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>>58255333
Serebii simply reports the data, Gamefreak is the one that makes it.
>even though that makes zero fucking sense
Too bad for you!
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>>58255234
NFEs can get Gigantimax forms. Why can't NFEs get Megas?
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>>58255333
What the hell are you talking about? Eternal floette has been in the code of the games since gen 6. There's no eternal flabebe.
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>>58255336
Because a Mega Evolution exceeds the limits of normal evolution. An NFE hasn't hit their limit of normal evolution yet.
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>>58255335
>Too bad for you!
>Even though the inconsistencies only afflicts the game than me
Weird flex but okay
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>>58255340
>There's no eternal flabebe.
Just because there is no "Eternal flabebe" doesn't mean floette didn't evolve from a flabebe
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>>58255344
>he inconsistencies only afflicts the game than me
This post somehow makes less sense than your previous train of thought. Congratulations.
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>>58255348
>This post somehow makes less sense than your previous train of thought.
Keep saying that maybe one day it'll be true (No it won't)
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>>58255352
>Keep saying that maybe one day it'll be true
It's already true. It's been true for the past 12 years, and will continue to be true.
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>>58255357
>It's already true.
Good job you're still believing it keep going like this
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>>58255361
>Good job you're still believing it
Yes, I will believe the information presented to me instead of hallucinate a headcanon that isn't supported by the games. Do you need your meds?
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>>58255362
>that isn't supported by the games.
The game already said floette is a middle stage pokemon though
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>>58255367
Show me the Eternal Flower Flabebe that evolved into the Eternal Flower Floette.
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>>58255370
>Eternal floette is totally a single stage goys it doesn't evolve from floette even though floette is the evolved form of flabebe
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>>58255375
Correct. Show me the Eternal Flower Flabebe. By your logic it must exist.
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>>58255378
>By your logic it must exist.
Yes because that's the previous evolution of floette
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>>58255382
Show it to me then.
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>>58255249
>The Eternal Flower Floette is fully evolved.
So is Partnet Pikachu, Cosplay Pikachu and Hat Pikachu then
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>>58255385
Just look at flabebe
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>>58255386
Funny enough eviolite doesn't work on any of those
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>>58253983
Wouldn't be surprised if concept notes read "Make it look as close to Pikachu as possible"
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>>58255386
True. However, Partner Pikachu and Cosplay Pikachu cannot leave their games of origin. Hat Pikachu can, but they can only enter games that support Pikachus with hats, namely SwSh and SV. ZA could easily disallow them.
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>>58255388
I don't see an Eternal Flower Flabebe. Post an image of it.
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>>58255400
>I don't see an Eternal Flower Flabebe.
The only thing that changes is the flower not the pokemon therefore any flabebe can look like eternal flabebe
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>>58255406
Wrong. There is only one Eternal Flower Floette.
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>>58255412
Never said otherwise
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Eternal floette was revived from death
If it could evolve at one point then it probably cannot anymore, evidenced by the fact that it hasn't in the 3,000 years it's been alive
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>"Hmm...How can we improve Raichu?"
>"I know! Make it look more like Pikachu!"
JUST
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>>58255469
There is also one that looks like Raichu.
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>>58255471
>Pikachu colors
>Pikachu tails
JUST
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>>58255449
It's interesting to see what effect infinity energy has on Pokemon evolution (e.g. mega stones). The huge dose of infinity energy used on Floette to revive it might have been like basically forcing it to transform/mega-evolve in a way to bring it back to life that destroyed its ability to evolve normally. The result is that it's now a suped-up mutated Floette.
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>>58253983
Pikachu doesn't have a cute belly
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>>58255475
I think Rogue Pokémon might be Pokémon that received a super dose of energy and forcibly mega evolved. Using the Key Stones might be something to share the burden of Mega Evolution so they won't go berserk.
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>>58255406
>is the flower not the pokemon t
E.F. Floette has a different coloration compared to normal Floettes

>>58253983
There are like 5 other megas that do that already
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>>58255471
>Has the Gorochu fang
The ONE thing they got right
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>>58255504
>E.F. Floette has a different coloration compared to normal Floettes
Correct all floettes have different colors from each others
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>>58253983
Because Mega Evolution is for Pokemon who already achieved their fullest potential, with Mega Evolution serving to boost them to a level beyond their fullest potential that hinges on the bond between trainer and Pokemon to regulate it. Pikachu can still evolve, so it can't get a Mega.
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>>58255518
>Pikachu can still evolve
Partner pikachu can't
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>>58255521
Cool, so where's Pikashuite in Let's Go Pikachu to capitalize on this rare exception of a NFE who has decisively reached its fullest potential by virtue of refusing to evolve?
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>>58255562
Ask gamefreak
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>>58255566
Great, glad we established that Pikachu can't Mega Evolve in any capacity then given our current resources, therefore Mega Raichu was necessary because giving a Mega Evolution to a Pokemon who's trapped in Let's Go Pikachu and cannot leave that game would be stupid as fuck.
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Eternal Flower Floette is just like Bloodmoon Ursaluna, they're one time only event Pokémon and considered their own standalone Pokémon separate of its traditional evolution line. Simple as.
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>>58255571
>to a Pokemon who's trapped in Let's Go Pikachu
Just make it available in other games then
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>>58253983
Because raichu has a better bst
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>>58255581
But to bring Partner Pikachu to other games, you have to subsequently introduce Chase/Elaine to those games and bullshit a reason why they'd give up their lifelong best buddy Pikachu to this random kid from another region who they've literally only just met, all the while their Pikachu has been characterized as stubbornly refusing to leave their side, ever.
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>>58255296
It basically has the stats of a Florges too
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>>58255587
Sounds like a nothing-issue if you allow partner pikachu to breed to make other partner pikachu
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>>58255592
How do you know if you can breed Partner Pikachu or not, and breeding it would result in Pichu offspring who can evolve into more Partner Pikachu?
Did you ask GameFreak and get a clear answer of what would happen in this hypothetical scenario?
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>>58255610
>Can pikachu breed?
is that even a real question or /vp/edophiles are just saing shit on purpose?
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>>58255613
Partner Pikachu isn't an average Pikachu, though. We've established it's an anomaly who's reached the peak of its potential early.
Eternal Floette can't breed, and it too is an anomaly who reached the peak of its potential early.
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>>58255617
>Partner Pikachu isn't an average Pikachu
And how would that make it unable to breed?
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>>58255619
The same way Cosplay Pikachu and the variations of Cap Pikachu are unable to breed. I can't give you a better answer than that because I'm not GameFreak, but there's a clear pattern of consistency that Pikachu who refuse to or are unable to evolve into Raichu are anomalous enough that they lose the capacity to breed, as well, so long as that inability to evolve isn't tied to the Gigantamax Factor, which can be removed by having your G-Max eligible Pikachu consume Max Soup.
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>>58255625
>I can't give you a better answer than that because I'm not GameFreak
You sure aren't
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>>58255629
Glad we agree that Mega Raichu is necessary because GameFreak hasn't yet given us a good reason as to why Mega Pikachu could and should exist, then. Not sure why we needed that whole exchange if we came to the same conclusion though?
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>>58255631
>Glad we agree that Mega Raichu is necessary
He clearly wasn't since both megas are literally just pikachu lol
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>>58255633
And Mega Dragonite takes after Dragonair, Mega Tyranitar takes after its pre-evolutions, Mega Ampharos takes after its pre-evolutions and Mega Gengar takes after Haunter.
Does this mean they should've just made Mega Dragonair, Mega Pupitar, Mega Larvitar, Mega Flaaffy, Mega Mareep and Mega Haunter, instead, but they were just too lazy to come up with good justifiable lore reasons that don't break the established rule of "Mega Evolution is for Pokemon who have achieved their highest evolutionary potential, allowing them to go one step even farther at the cost of their stability and wellbeing, something only a powerful bond with a trainer can counterbalance?"
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>>58255640
>Mega raichus makes sense because other shitty megas exist
Not the kind of gotcha you think it is
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>>58255644
Again. Should they have made Mega Dragonair, Mega Pupitar, Mega Larvitar, Mega Flaaffy, Mega Mareep and Mega Haunter, instead, but they were just too lazy to come up with good justifiable lore reasons that don't break the established rule of "Mega Evolution is for Pokemon who have achieved their highest evolutionary potential, allowing them to go one step even farther at the cost of their stability and wellbeing, something only a powerful bond with a trainer can counterbalance?"
Because if your answer is "no", then yes, Mega Raichu was necessary, because GameFreak could NOT come up with a good excuse that maintains the established rule of Mega Evolution as a concept.
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>>58255512
>Correct all floettes have different colors from each others
They don't, their flowers do. E.F. Floette's body is red and blue while normal Floettes are yellow and green.
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>>58255646
>Mega Raichu was necessary
Clearly not since nothing about raichu is left in both designs
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>>58255651
Then why didn't they make Mega Pikachu instead, when they could've just made it a Mega Evolution for any of the Cap Pikachu variations?
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>>58255649
And how does that make it any different from any other floette when the only thing about the body that changes is just two colors?
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>>58255651
Yeah merely proportions, ears, tails and colors. They deleted all the raichu from both these designs clearly.
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>>58253983
because it was too ugly so they forced it on raichu with a slight redesign
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>>58255651
Raichu is just Pikachu but bigger
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>>58255652
>Then why didn't they make Mega Pikachu instead
Gamefreak is retarded and just decided to make raichu into pikachu again because they hate it duh
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>>58255659
Glad we agree that Mega Raichu is necessary because GameFreak hasn't yet given us a good reason as to why Mega Pikachu could and should exist, then. Not sure why we needed that whole exchange if we came to the same conclusion though?
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>>58255660
>Mega Raichu is necessary because GameFreak hasn't yet given us a good reason as to why Mega Pikachu could and should exist
He clearly wasn't since nothing about raichu is left in both megas lol
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>>58253983
Lmao they wanted to make mega pikachu so badly
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>>58255663
You just said Mega Raichu is necessary because they wanted to express their hatred of Raichu by turning it into Pikachu, though.
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>>58255669
Hatred is never necessary though
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>>58255673
But it's why GameFreak made Mega Raichu instead of making Mega Pikachu for the Cap Pikachus. Therefore, Mega Raichu is necessary in GameFreak's eyes, because it wasn't enough for Pikachu to get spotlight, they wanted to humiliate Raichu in the process by forcing it to revert into the form everyone loves more, even in-universe.
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They hate raichu, nothing new plus they always are going to make something like that because poketurds keep talking about it
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>>58255655
And how does a black panther differ from a leopard when it's literally just a color mutation?
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>>58255819
i dunno shit about leopards and panthers but floette is still a floette



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