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>the reason Pokemon are so ugly these days is the vast amounts of well designed Fakemon that disqualify good design concepts from becoming official

Damn..
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>>58256017
That's retarded
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Just buy the cheapest ones
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So thats why they never designed another Eeveelution after Sylveon? I thought they weren't allowed to look at fan designs. Its stupid because everyone wants new Eevees. This is also a monetary loss for TPC, Eevee merch prints money.
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>>58256068
>I thought they weren't allowed to look at fan designs
iirc designers can't but there's a separate group who looks at fan designs and compares them to what the design team makes
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>it was decided that the design costs would be very high
So they're afraid of being directly compared with fan designs, or else they'd have to waste money making something better. If anything, this is the company admitting that they produce low-quality slop that's only marketable because it's completely unique (in that nobody else has done something that retarded).
The fact that pokedrones immediately spun this into "IT'S DA FANS' FAULT!" is proof of how deep the shiteating consumerism runs in them.
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>>58256343
Also nintendo now owns a patent for the gameplay of pokémon, ensuring that they can remain retarded with no competition
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>>58256387
inshallah they try that shit on fatlus and get completely bodied
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>>58256017
This does explain why Umbreon has wasp motifs. A shame about the flying Eevee, I want it. Pure flying is good.
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>>58256017
>>58256068
>>58256289
>>58256343
This has to be bullshit because TPC has a ToS in one of the games that pretty much says they can use your fanart as they will. They thought they could get away with it for that Ho-Oh art in Pocket, but the negative attention from the accusation was so bad that they immediately rescinded it.
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i knew this, they make every pokemon ugly and not cool because they know fanart made it cooler so they make the opposite
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>>58256343
>>58256068
That text is clearly a shitty machine translation, that whole sentence about the cost is an oxymoron
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>>58256017
Too bad there is no dragon Eevee. Those pokemon can only use the dragon element from tera blast.
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>>58256017
>’tendo (and all ‘tendo subsidiaries) hates its fans
And the sky is blue.
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>>58256017
>it was to similar
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Flying Eevee could never exist because Flying is a physical type. Dragon Eevee could, however, because that's a special type.
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>>58256508
the OP specifically goes out of its way to disprove this (umbreon was poison originally, a physical type, fairy was created after the phys/special split and there was a planned flying eevee and it only didn't get done because of GF retardation)
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>>58256017
Just make a new design, are they retarded?
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>>58256449
It's an inaccurate translation now that anons are done using it as a cudgel and it's no longer convenient to have around. How typical.
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>>58256017
I think they should just make dual-type evolutions for the Eeveelutions to account for the missing types, it's almost perfectly half too
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>>58256413
Well if they don't own any game and still draw then what?
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>>58256856
Which Eevees should get which secondary type?
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>>58256413
harada from tekken once talked about how fan designs and ideas can negativity effect development even if you sign away rights and why companies stopped doing fan designs and naming competitions
https://x.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1810549738128974304
>Because a certain percentage of people will file a lawsuit in the form of "you used my proposal without permission" or "you stole my proposal" or "that was my proposal."
(The scary thing is that in the past, people who have not sent me any letters or emails at all have protested vehemently, "My idea came first!")
>many game companies stopped such initiatives and campaigns after such troubles, including lawsuits claiming rights despite having signed all kinds of consent forms in advance.
>It's not a question of whether we can win the lawsuit or not, but the fact that these kinds of troubles arise is a burden for us.
considering eeveelutions are a very simple concept to design around, every possible design probably exists and they dont wanna start something unless its a mon they think can make them a lot of money
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>>58257600
It's not like ending official support for such things stops such claims from occurring anyway
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>>58257667
true but it lessens the legitimacy of their claims because gamefreak can claim ignorance. its about minimizing risk rather than immunity.
those decompilations projects use the exact same excuse when working on a game with leaked source code.
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>>58256017
There is a term in the legal world called "Innocent Infringement", where you create something that is very similar to something that already exists without knowing the existing thing existed in the first place. It's precisely why Pokemon designers aren't allowed to go around looking at fan designs, because that'd make them liable. If they have reason to believe the Pokemon designer had no idea the specific fan design existed, there's nothing the fan designer can do unless their specific design is copyrighted (lmao copyrighting a fan design). Nintendo, being the legal law firm that sometimes releases videogames that they are, simply go the extra mile and throw out any designs that are found to be too similar to fan designs simply to avoid hassles like >>58257600 stated. Not because they'd lose out, but because that's just an unnecessary legal mess for an expendable drawing.
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>>58258707
To be fair, I feel like any Eeveelution design could be covered by innocent infringement, simply due the frequency of fanmade Eeveelutions.
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>>58256475
Their "fans" regularly pirated from them for decades and ruined several of their IPs with degenerate memes (Vaporeon, Bowsette, pokegirl r34). Why should Nintendo respect them even slightly?
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>>58256017
They should bite the bullet and give us a new type already, so that the artists can be free to create better pokemon designs without needing to worry about the fanart.
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>>58256068
IIRC they managed to pass a law around the same time L:A came around that allowed them to make new evos to older mons without having to worry about getting sued by fakemon creators. Which is why Gen 9 brought them back since they were last present in Gen 6
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>>58256017
this is so stupid
those fan designs exist because of the franchise
fans have no right to the fan designs they create because they are just extensions to the IP, which they don't own
at this point, it's on the fan artists to state that what they create using the company's intellectual property belongs to the company, even if they came up with it and put effort in it
anyone who disagrees is a mega retard
it's no wonder the nu-designs are so fucking bad, because most of the good designs are taken up by fan artists
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>>58256343
>>58259679
Creativity is not something finite and designs aren't premade for someone to just pick up.
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>>58256017
>The scrapped Eevee was a fat chungus that looked like a chicken
Nobody is going to believe the scrapped Eevee had a good design
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>>58259773
Good thing this was a Gen 7 design, before they decided to go full Redditmon in SWSH!
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>>58256387
That's not how patents work. They can try to bully smaller companies in corrupt Japanese courts, but as soon as they try any shit in any western court the whole thing will fall apart.
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>>58256528
Costs too high
Prease understandu
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>>58259836
The cope is strong in this one, palcuck
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>>58259836
The US just granted them an even more egregious patent for summoning
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>>58258707
>>58259679
That is not how it works, everyone automatically owns the copyright to anything they create, including fan art based on an IP they don't own

They technically can't legally *do* anything with that fanart like sell it in any way, but that doesn't automatically grant the original IP holder the rights to it either, the work is in deadlock unless the two parties come to an agreement
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>>58256017
Did they just admit their games are low value?
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>>58259863
>the work is in deadlock unless the two parties come to an agreement
I'm a simple man. We can talk all about the complicated murky gray areas but at the end of the day, anyone with common sense would believe that the fan artist ought to have no legal or moral standing to be a pain in Game Freak's ass should their fakemon be "stolen".

Coming up with a fakemon in your free time without being shackled by deadlines, design mandates, group collaboration, and constant revisions let alone having to punch in and out of the office completely disqualifies the fan artist from having their cake and eating it too in the form of doing the fun, easy part of building the next Pokémon game without any of the actual work. This whole debate is essentially the equivalent of TPC being clearly in the wrong despite the opposing narrative trying to muddy the waters by saying that they are operating perfectly legally. Either that or they're making excuses like >>58256343 pointed out.
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>>58259890
I'm fairly certain GF/Nintendo/Creatures know Pokémon is about the merch, not the games.
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>>58259863
that's how it works and there're plenty of fan artist beggars selling their creations for money using the ip they don't own
time to start reporting them to nintendo, tpc and gamefreak
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>>58259911
Been that way since they made that glorified weekly 22 minute commercial back in '97, even.
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>>58259972
>that's how it works
It's not
>and there're plenty of fan artist beggars selling their creations for money using the ip they don't own
Yeah they can be C&D'd for that because they aren't allowed to make copies of likenesses/IP they don't own, technically they don't even have to be making money to be in the wrong, it's just that IP holders can choose whether to pursue or not and they generally don't
>time to start reporting them to nintendo, tpc and gamefreak
There is legal basis for that, companies generally avoid doing that because it harms goodwill, but if someone gets too big or cocky they generally get struck down
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>>58256017
That didn't stop Haxorus from existing though.
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>>58258850
Why should I respect a company that literally exists as a money laundering front of the Yakuza and which only dabbled into vidya after their past enterprises of hanafuda cards manufacture and "love hotel" chain stopped being profitable?
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>>58257446
Vaporeon Water/Poison
Flareon Fire/Ground
Jolteon Electric/Fighting
Espeon Psychic/Rock
Umbreon Dark/Steel
Leafeon Grass/Dragon
Glaceon Ice/Flying
Sylveon Fairy/Bug
I'd introduce also a normal type evolution for Eevee as the last "true" Eeveelution, then give that a Normal/Ghost evolution, there, all 18 types accounted
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At least there will always be Chappy pics!
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>>58256017
The answer is probably "money" and "legal issues," but why not purchase said fan-designs from their creators?
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>>58265299
You can't verify if they stole it from someone else in the first place
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>Purple ring Umbreon
Even if the SGB palette was purple at the time, it's very likely that Umbreon would have retained similar bright color rings because bright rings on animals are meant to identify toxicity and warn predators. It would likely retain the red eyes as well, as various poisonous lizards squirt toxic blood from their eyes as a defense mechanism.
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>>58265299
even if you buy them they could still start having a shit fit for whatever reason, as said here >>58257600
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>>58265317
looks like pecharunt too
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>>58256017
>posion type
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God designed flamingos, that didn't stop them from making this shit. They didn't even change the name, they just took off a letter.
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>>58256017
>also steals from other designs
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>>58262027
Who is Chappy?
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>>58257667
oh yeah the strawberries
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I mean there IS a limit to what can be done with a concept, and fakemon art is so prevalent that I have a hard time doubting every cool or attractive concept has been nearly exhausted.

As soon as GF comes out with anything even close to any piece of fanart ever made, they immediately get called hacks
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>>58256017
What exactly is the problem with designs resembling fan designs or just using fan designs?
All you need to do is to give credit to fans that made a design or inspired it, compensate them too, and maybe even hire them like what Sega did with Sonic fans.
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>>58256068
The text is machine traslated but the meaning is quite obvious
(And could easily be infered even without this text)

They ALREADY print money so there is no need for a new eevee, wait the day the sales start to go slightly downhill and bam! You'll get hit with a new eevolution or two (and maybe a new charizard too)

And fans be like "oh shit a new Eevee I MUST CONSOOM"
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>>58268108
fans are not professionals and do not act professionally, imagine the shit storm if Sega and Gamefreak noticed some fan's sonic and pikachu fusion design and decided to use it?
and hiring fans has worked great for sega so far, just look at the lead writer for IDW making money on the side taking donations to officially confirm fandom headcanons.
also do you know who ken penders is?
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Let's not pretend that Gamefreak doesn't have a long history of "inspiration" anyway
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>>58256017
So.
Why has nobody taken advantage of this by flooding the internet with purposefully ugly and terrible fakemon so they don't ever become real pokemon?
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>>58256017
>The design costs would be very high
How can you design your way out of fan-designs? In am sure everything has already been done.
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>>58256068
Can TPC just buy the fan model, and use it as its own?
I know that's basically opening the gates to a billion retards submitting shitty drawinga to HQ hoping to get paid, but a few exceptions can be covered so you can release new Eeveelutions.
Besides, now that the fan model is yours, you can charge any fucker who tries to profit from it.
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>>58268587
oooh THAT'S what they were going for with Dragonite...
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>>58269928
What they were going for is subverting your expectations for what Dragonair evolves into
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>>58256068
>Its stupid because everyone wants new Eevees
I don't, Eevee has had more than enough attention already.
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>>58256475
It's not about hating fans retard, it's about not wanting to get in a legal battle if a design is too close to a fan one and they're accused of plagiarism.
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>>58266960
>Kuklan
M-Scrafty is not based on a KKK member, the KKK did not invent white clothing.
>Barbarkley
Is based on Barbaracle, not the other way around.
>Admoot
"Cute thing with giant hammer" is a stock character trope, Clover did not invent it.
>Galavik
Maybe similar conceptually, but "Steel-type based on metal amalgam" is a pretty generic idea. It's like saying Gamefreak can't ever make a peacock Pokemon because there's a hundred peacock fakemon designs out there. Visually they look nothing alike.
>Humpunny/Bunnorgy
This is the only example where they're actually eerily similar but Maushold seems to be based on a very specific line of Japanese dollhouse figures, the idea of making them a family was probably later derived from that inspiration.
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>>58268108
I know is a little bit different but take a look at Fortnite and Epic
>Let fans create skins
>Said fan created skin gets added to the game
>Fan is proud of it and acts like a diva
>Fan is found out to be a child predator
>Epic bans said skin

And it happened with "famous people"
>Hire a "singer" nig for the world cup
>Create a song and a skin for him
>Release the song
>A day after release, cops find out about a dead body in his impounded car
>Fast forward a few weeks
>Dead body was his underage lover that supposedly he killed


Way to go
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>>58280219
You know better than to post sonething like this, Chappyanon...
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Fuck chappy
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>>58256068
I don't want a new eeveelution, they are perfect as is.

As >>58268300 said, they would only churn out nostalgic mons (aka kanto mons variant) when they begin to fuck up, like what they did in gen 7 when yo-kai watch was at its peak.
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>>58257667
Years ago I made a cringe ass trainer OC when I was a kid. Forgot all about it until recently when one of the gym leaders in the newer games looked a little too suspiciously like them. I'm too ashamed and embarrassed to dig that trainer out to go "Hey, GF made so-and-so which looks a lot like my character such-and-such!" so now I just have to live with it in silence lmao. Too bad that character's stuck in a shitty game and they fucked up some of the delivery for it.
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>Fire design team
>buy good fan designs
>pay them some cash that's a fraction of what your team would cost and make them sign a document waiving all rights to the design
>put their name in the game credits to extra protect against any legal fuckery
>Fanartists get clout
>gamefreak avoids legal annoyances
>pokemon gets cool designs again
>everyone happy
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>>58257600
Why not do what Kinnikuman/Mega Man did and have contest entries to make fan made works official?
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>>58284446
Nice enigmantis
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I'm sure all of Nintendo's lawyers would have a really hard time going against some 20 y/o autist from DeviantArt trying to sue them.
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>>58256017
This is false because all eeveelutions are special types
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>>58257717
Okay but what's the excuse of Mega Dragonite the? Because that is clearly a fan design and Dragonite (Dragonair) is popular as well. Not as popular as eevee/pikachu shillings but still popular
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>>58261082
It should easily be
>Vaporeon: Water/Dragon
>Flareon: Fire/Steel
>Umbreon: Dark/Poison
>Espeon: Psychic/Ground
>Leafeon: Grass/Rock

Jolteon, Glaceon, and Sylveon are fine though
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>>58256017
Makes sense to me, I always had this feeling they don't want to look like fans and that every time a fan makes an OC it literally lowers the chance of that mon getting an evo or something.
Figures there is no mega Flygon, and never will be
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>>58284446
>said fanartist got outed as a pedo/criminal
>pokemon is now associated to that crime because the criminal was credited on its design
it's kinda like the Typhlosion lore.
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>>58256017
>it was never officially a special type
Fairy is Dragon and dragon was special
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>>58256413
They just have that to cover their asses legally. No company likes to steal from fans because it brings a lot of negative attention. So yeah they "can" but they don't want to.
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>>58287083
And that is the thing really
Even if some Deviautist wanted to sue; what lawyer would be fool enough to try?
They would have to have literally a 1:1 and not just similar
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>>58256343
>So they're afraid of being directly compared with fan designs, or else they'd have to waste money making something better
They don't want to buy the rights or have anything to do with the artist. Yugioh had something similar happening with Air Neos/Ravedactyl and what they did? They just stopped using Air Neos altogether.
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>>58284446
>that's a fraction of what your team would cost
Buying the designs would cost little yes, the problem are the costs associated with having a permanent structure that deals with such things. Having more employees devoted to just that, lawyers etc. That's what they mean with the costs being too high
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awoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowowowow
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too cute, fixed picrel
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>>58287968
They can't claim ignorance
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>>58256413
>They thought they could get away with it for that Ho-Oh art in Pocket
I'll be the last person to defend GF, but wasn't that a case of hiring an artist who happened to copy, rather than going out of their way to do it as a business strategy?
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waggywaggywaggywaggywaggy!
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>>58258850
>ruined several of their IPs
most people can only dream of having IPs as "ruined" as Nintendo's
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>>58256017
Pokemon still have highest good monster design ratio per game. So win.
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>>58284393
If you aren't gonna show your OC can you at least tell the class which character it was that looked so close to it?
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>>58318494
Hasn't been the case since gen 3 (inclusive)
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What are the odds that with the rise of AI, GF is using one with a massive collection of fakemon and fan forms to either:
>generate their own designs to spend less time on development
>compare future designs they make and scrapping them the moment the AI finds a match
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>>58256017
could they even get in trouble for "stealing" a fan design? they own the ip
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>>58257667
the fan design mogs it however
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>>58321897
They own their own designs, not designs other people make
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>>58256508
Imagine repeating the "only special type" eevelutions bullshit when the op literally shows why it was never a thing, retard
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>>58324215
>the fact that they deliberately went out of their way to change Umbreon to a type that maintains the "only special types" rule in early development somehow proves that the rule doesn't exist
>the fact that they created a new type when there used to be 9 physical types and 8 special types totally means that Fairy would have been Physical if it was made pre-split
acute retardation
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>>58324240
>conveniently ignoring that they decided to show off the new Dark type
>conveniently ignoring the Flying eeveelution in the OP
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>>58324240
>convienently ignoring the Flying eevolution they scrapped because of the design, not because they suddendly remembered it was a physical type.
Retard
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>>58324850
>conveniently ignore the Flying eevolution they scrapped because [HEADCANON]
it literally doesn't say that anywhere. it says "the design costs would be very high" which means it was ONE of the factors but not the main factor. The main factor was that Flying is a physical type, because that's the pattern and patterns are king in pokemon design.
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>>58326518
Shut up boomerfag
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>>58256475
mind you, they've been Boeing'd for quite awhile by now.
One should expect them to behave like a simple greedy algorithm
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hail xi jinping and kim jong-un
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>>58326518
>the reason is literally written right there
>headcanon
>proceeds to tell the true reason is a headcanon rule
So you really think they made a design and then went: "oh wait but it's a physical type, how silly we are let's scrap it", just admit you're more retarded than Calyrex design, can't even read basic english
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>>58326713
>proceeds to tell the true reason is a headcanon rule
how is it a headcanon when all 20+ years of the franchise prove me right?
>So you really think they made a design and then went: "oh wait but it's a physical type, how silly we are let's scrap it"
yes.
>>58324396
>conveniently ignoring that they decided to show off the new Dark type
then why isn't Espeon a Steel type?
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>>58256017
Maybe it's just that your outlook has grown ugly, OP, for all new things are new and you're on the uncircumsized side of history
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>>58326518
>patterns are king in pokemon design
You're talking about the generation with evolving legendaries.
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>>58327715
ever heard of "the exception that proves the rule"?
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>>58256017
>the reason Pokemon are so ugly these days
They just design them easy to model into the games and make into plushes as possible. That results in ugly proportions like the Baxcalibur line and unremarkable plain shit like Spidops
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>>58267005
An artist whose pics that anon uses to say "I'm taking over this thread, what do you mean it wasn't meant to be a thread for spamming Eeveelution pics?"
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>>58326614
Make me zoomersperg
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>thread kept alive because of random eeveelution dump art cancer
You could make a much better thread but for some reason eeveetards are obssessed to keep this one up, what is wrong with them
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>>58256413
>They thought they could get away with it for that Ho-Oh art in Pocket,
Stop thinking that company are people. "They" didn't think shit, an artisti did, no one in qc bothered to check.

I feel going mad whenever people post like this, it's as if they think companies are people.
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>>58268587
The only real complaint here is the rabbit/Nidoran, but horned rabbits are a common concept since they are all derived form the wolpertinger. Nidoran is a better design anyway.
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>>58337582
Don't be delusional, if the designs on the left only first appeared in a modern indie game like 80% of them would be called blatant uninspired Pokemon ripoffs
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>>58337861
Just look at the first bat vs zubat, they are completely different designs. The only similarity is that they are bats.
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>>58337891
>The only similarity is that they are bats.
This was enough for tons of Palworld designs to be called ripoffs
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>>58338299
Nice try crypto-chink.
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>>58337582
>since they are all derived form the wolpertinger.
No, lol...
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>>58336062
It's only one retard. Actually two, one who posts Eevee fanart and one who spergs about Indians.
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>>58338553
It goes al-mi'raj --> wolpertinger --> jackalope --> al-miraj (dnd) --> bunicorn --> nidoran
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sylveon is my fav pokemon v v cute <3
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Its ugly because of James Turner
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>>58256017
And that's a good thing!
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>>58256289
I don't believe in their autistic adherence to written rulesets anymore after it was discovered that the reason for last years TeraLeak was some retarded horny boomer at GF using their corporate e-mail on a fake porn website during work hours at their main office.
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>>58256017
There are multiple designers for Pokemon now, you could literally just buy the rights or commission them to do a design at this point.
>>58256413
That is impossible to enforce because not only is a TOS not law and barely legally enforceable, but it would be completely impossible to determine that someone agreed to it. I've never played Puzzle & Dragon in my life but nothing stops me from drawing that sexy, sexy Moonlight Carbuncle

Also the Ho-Oh thing was a massive communication fuckup.
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>>58256343
>If anything, this is the company admitting that they produce low-quality slop that's only marketable because it's completely unique (in that nobody else has done something that retarded).
How did this fucking retard arrive at this conclusion
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>>58274210
a century ago and no one would mind these guys having child gfs

americans really ruin and destroy everything
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>>58256017
Bullshit, there were more fakemons than pokemon before Sinnoh existed
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>>58257600
I'm not buying this excuse. Digimon has had a number of fan design contests over the years and some of the most recognizable/iconic ones - Angemon, Kabuterimon, Birdramon, Mummymon, Dobermon, etc. - came from those contests. They did one as recently as 2020. Not once have I ever heard of Bandai, Toei, or WiZ getting sued over this. It seems to me that Harada is just projecting his own paranoia on the industry as a whole.
If there is any real threat of legal action, it may be that Digimon avoided it by having Kenji make drastic enough tweaks to the winning designe once they were chosen that they could argue are sufficiently transformative. Like, for example, the original contest submission for Angemon envisioned him as a centaur, but once it was put through Kenji's design process, he ended up becoming the bipedal humanoid Angemon we know today. If Pokemon ever did a similar contest, one would assume they'd do the exact same thing with their in-house artists.
In any case, it's ridiculous that Game Freak is actually worried about fakemons. As the number of Pokemon grows larger, and with how massive and active Pokemon's fanbase is, it's going to become more and more impossible for them to avoid designing anything that could possibly have any similarity to a fakemon, so it's a fool's errand for them to try. WTF are they wringing their hands about costs and lawsuits for? They're the highest-grossing media franchise on the planet, backed by the most hyper-litigious corporation in gaming and their army of shark lawyers. They're realistically never losing a lawsuit to some random dweeb from DeviantArt or Twitter.
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>>58367614
Just to add on to this, I just remembered something Kenji said about this topic in an interview:

>Watanabe: Even on the WiZ end, when whoever’s in charge changes hands, a new part of the lore is created. Also, now that the Internet is here, it’s become much easier for for the average person or fan to draw their own original Digimon and post pictures. It’s a good thing, but for me, it’s also very scary, because I have to worry about the fact I might accidentally take someone else’s idea. For instance, if I’m told to draw something-or-other-mon, and I look it up on the Internet and there’s already something drawn for it by someone else. So for a while, I was trying to stay away from it as much as possible, but nowadays there’s so much of it that I decided to not worry about it anymore. So I’m sorry if I end up doing the same thing someone else did. I promise I didn’t steal your idea or anything.
https://digi-lab.blog/digimon-games-community-interviews-kenji-watanabe/

Again, no lawsuits, no controversy, no drama with this approach. Game Freak is literally worried about nothing. They should have just grown a pair and designed the flying Eeveelution.
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>>58367645
it's projection, they think everyone else is as litigious as them
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>>58346828
>Rockman 5
IDGI

>>58344478
Rent free
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>>58367645
Kenji is just chill like that, Digimon is the Bugs Bunny to Pokemon's Mickey Mouse
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>>58284455
Honestly this, I can't recall any of the winners from those contest raising a stick. I just want an Eeveelution to fill all the Type spots from autism alone.
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>>58257667
Many such cases
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>>58367645
It's rare, but lawsuits do happen, look at the juju fisaco with skullgirls

https://skullgirls.fandom.com/wiki/Juju
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>>58256017
Fakemon faggots ruined the franchise.
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>>58256017
>there is one random ass eevee fakemon out there thats borderline canon and we will never know which one it is
how infuriating
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>>58256017
Honestly. Idk what stops them from just buying the fakemon, or even "fuck it, we're Pokémon and everything you made with our IP is ours"
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>>58256017
lmao they've copied fan designs before >>58257667
bullshit excuse for "we're out of competency too, not just ideas".
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>>58257600
Didn't an unhinged writer have a Joker moment and burn down an anime studio specifically over this?
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>>58284455
>>58369455
The post you're responding to already answers your question.
Whoever didn't win could still accuse them later of stealing their entry anyway. The same shit was the motivation behind the KyoAni fire >>58379785
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>>58379192
A spicy pepper design for a fire/grass type is not creative at all. There was no "stealing" involved when the idea is so basic.
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>>58379814
Didn't stop people from accusing Palworld for plagiarizing Eevee with Cremis even though they're both only fluffy anime dogs
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>>58271286
>"Steel-type based on metal amalgam" is a pretty generic idea
Game Freak did it first, it just got cut. Ditto's evolution Animon was going to be Steel-type, building on the idea that Ditto arrived on meteorites. It's why wild Ditto still hold Metal Coat.
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>>58268587
>animals all drawn completely differently
oh. my. heckin. golly.
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>>58268587
>all look nothing alike on both sides
huh
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is spinarak a fan design or not
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>>58256017
Can't they just make a new fucking design or pay whatever 12 year old that can apparently make a more competent design then them a bit of money? I doubt whatever kid drew the design would have a high price.
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>>58257600
>>58257667
Every concept imaginable already exists. Unless you are going to have point and click adventure designers work on pokemon it impossible to create a pokemon that's not similar to something that already exists.
Also harada's point doesn't make any sense as pokemon still does yearly design contests for the cards.
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>>58380466
It's sketchy because while x my have posted it y could have been the actual designer. People repost art all the time,
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>>58380114
Ditto having an evolution at all is a horrible idea, why did they come up with this
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>>58256343
yeah this post nailed it

put it on a t-shirt, case closed.
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>>58260283
?
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>>58256017
And now fans are being punished because they're more talented than Game Freak...awesome
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>>58256068
I only want a Dragon-type one to complete the formerly special types.A new Pokémon can cover the physical types.
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I'm sure this is why we won't get Mega Flygon. Couldn't they just suck their pride up and like, tell a fan "we like this, we WANT YOU!" or something? They've done it with the music already.
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>>58380513
slime evolving into metal slime
surely you know what super niche jrpg series this could possibly have taken inspiration from during gen 1's development
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>>58256017
kyoani got torched and a massive chunk of their staff dead over a turbosperg believing they stole concepts from him, this is the one thing I can't blame game freak getting cold feet over
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Some fakemon artist's fake mega diancie posted on deviantart way before the official reveal in oras.
Might be even one of the factors why z's development was scrapped.
Probably was supposed to play a role in the plot and instead became a simple event distribution.
Doesnt seem like it plays a role in z-a's base game either.
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>>58407874
>no one is complaining about chappyfag's off-topic posts right now
>still spergs about your jeet bogeyman anyway
Not even meds can save you
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>>58399273
They did this with Detective Pikachu as well. The lead artist on that movie got noticed because his realistic Pokemon shoops were popular on reddit
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>>58408243
It might not be a good idea to do this with someone who is a hobby artist and not someone already working in the industry. People who are used to be a professional might start acting out somehow
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>>58408263
Agreed. Pokemon is propped up by the parasocial relationships we form with these monsters, that's what drives the machine. But a side effect of that is that people can get really weird and possessive, especially when it involves OCs. The last thing Pokemon needs is a Ken Penders. They rarely tell the public who designed what, and I doubt some OC artist would understand or respect the brand's culture of secrecy.
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>saaaar please be sperg like anyone who tries to control the board by whining about posters who actually belong here unlike samefagging shartyeets I totally don't exist saar just like the supposed off-topic and "avatarfagging" posts that I can't delete it's so rayciss that real posters have storage space unlike my shitty jeetphone
>oh no xaar why is the ethnicity of every jeetcord groomaar being reposted every time I try to get rid of the posts that expose the usual samefagging jeet who tries to prevent bumping that's so rayciss saaaar dishonesty is the birthright of all jeets
>please saaar it's so rayciss to expose the usual samefagging jeet that tries to prevent a thread from being bumped saaar every jeet should be welcome to lie and whine on a site that no jeet will ever belong on because dishonesty is the birthright of all jeets
>remember saaar when a samefagging jeet wants to cover something up you just know it's the truth and whenever a samefagging jeet wants to make a claim you just know it's the opposite of the truth
>remember saaar the poor oppressed op wanted the thread to die early so i can have more room for my shitty ads it's very mean and rayciss to notice that I don't actually give a shit about "derailing" which is another word a samefagging jeet will never understand and will just try to imitate or "spam" which is another word a samefagging jeet will never understand and will just try to imitate or "dumping" which is another word a samefagging jeet will never understand and will just try to imitate
>please saaars stop noticing that what i'm actually crying about is bumping which is why I try to pretend "muh chappy" is the one bumping these threads during my shartyjeet raids which are actual spam
>aieeeee the thread got bumped again after I whined about it oh no saaar why is the real /vp/ fed up enough to do the opposite of what the usual samefagging jeet wants please save me janny-sahib
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>>58256017
That doesn't surprise me at all. They try so hard to make original and surprising designs



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