Why did they gut gale wings
Kalos was designed to flop, please understand
>>58256331It overshadowed CHARIZARD
It was a little too good but they nerfed it way too hard, now it sucks.
>>58256331The bird was too braveMuch like how the mom was too mega
no one in this thread has ever played PvP in their lives btw
>>58256474Priority Tailwind?
>>58256764Priority Tailwind. As well as also being respectably threatening in its own right.It even still gets usage in singles (on stall teams, weirdly enough).It got nerfed, but now it's just a decent mid-tier mon rather than the bravest bird that it was in gen 6.
The bigger dick move was also adding so many anti-priority abilities and buffs in Gen VII. They should've gone the other direction and made more priority move type abilities for lesser used ones like Rock and Poison.
>>58256331GF have a tendency to overcompensate when nerfing
Honestly, I feel like Talonflame didn't even need the nerf in retrospect.If GF had kept Gale Wings the way it was, Talonflame probably would've been powercrept by now anyway.
>>58256331Because japs kept being niggers with priority roost.
>>58257630>Nerf Dark Void accuracy>also make it so that only Darkrai can use itDoing both was just pure evil.
>>58259107Darkrai is still very good in doubles so clearly they were correct
>>58256474I was going to say something about fanfic meta but nobody here plays that either despite constantly whining about it
>spread status moves now have reduced accuracyThere, I fixed dark void. Singles keeps its good accuracy. Doubles has shit accuracy, but can still hit both.
>>58259305Darkrai isn't available in any VGC formats where tournaments are held.Yes, it's available in Reg J, but Reg J is ladder exclusive and your wins don't award you championship points.It's purely for fun, and not serious competition, so Darkrai being broken is fine.
>>58259310Talonflame actually does get usage in fanfic meta.Not enough to be OU anymore, but enough to have a solid niche.So yes, nobody whining in this thread about Talonflame's nerf plays any format.
>>58256331Much like how Scizor had people bitching about not enough good Fire or Electric types to deal with it, GF eventually made some really bombass Fire mons in BW that actually had bulk (though Electric still fucking sucks) that in gen5 Scizor was entirely manageable.But in XY while Talon's whole thing was dealing with Volcarona/M-Blaziken, it was right off the bat a different landscape in terms of powercreep. Flying is a very broad, mostly unresisited type & Talon's Fire dealt with Steels. But instead of making better Rock or Electric types they said lol not this time & cut it off at the source being a signature Ability so only a single mon would be affected.Yeah Lycanroc, Dazzling/QM, were niche, whereas Psycic Terrain would've been more than enough, then I believe it was its performance in VGC that made GF go a little overboard as people were running it purely as a support mon without any rhyme or reason.Koko was the nail in the coffin though, since Rock will forever suck no matter what & GF STILL refuses to make Electric a functioning type without some mascot/legendary bullshit tacked on, it now carries the entire type with reckless abandon as the Smogonbird was caught in its crossfire when it was already long passed dead.Though I'd be lying if boosted Supersonic Skystrikes weren't missed, those were the days lol.Personally I think Talon's in a good spot now, decent enough as a Tailwind setter in VCG & does pretty damn well as the premiere Boots+Defog supportmon in a wide variety of teams.Thank you for coming to my TalonTalk.
>>58256331Because it was the strongest priority in the fucking game. The problem is there is almost no countering it if you are weak to flyingAt most you could switch to a check, but who cares, it would just uturn out, and it pretty much disables any pokemon weak to flying This isn't like goldengo where he automatically beats EVERY pokemon weak to steel. there are still steel week pokemon that can at least stand a chance. Talonflame just wore down your team as you basically were down a slot. Then it had utility and fire coverage as well.
>>58260056The issue is that people want to play Brave Bird priority spam, not the discount Moltres utility Defog set people actually run nowadaysEven though Specs priority Hurricane in rain is funny because haha fire bird in rain lol
>play monotype bug>build entire team around countering talonflame>it didn't matter because whenever I would bring in a "check" the talonflame would just switch out unless the other player was a brain dead retard>the "checks" were things like armaldo who was max hp/max defense and had to gamble on killing with a 80-90% rock attacks>Even this maxed out hyper tuned armaldo specifically made for talonflame took 48% damage from brave bird, meaning armaldo couldn't switch in to talonflame after stealth rock or guarantee loseNo wonder it was banned from monotype. I'd rather face a Koraidon. I'd rather face a Ho-oh. I'd rather face a mega pinsir with the original aeriliate. I'd rather face a volcarona with Z moves unbanned. I feel like I could make strategies around those mons. Not talonflame
much like aegislash they didnt really understand what they were doing
