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Which is the worse E4?
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>>58261397
the legends arceus one
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>bug shitter
>discount agatha
>lol fire type in sinnoh
>discount will
Kalos at least has the Team Flare bitch and dragon GILF
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Bertha sexo but it's not really a contest, Sinnoh's E4 are just guys you meet at a coffee shop. They lack charisma. Feels intentional to put even more focus on Cynthia as a Champion. They really should've stopped having E4s by this point since they kept getting less interesting. Unova's is fine though, I guess

That said Malva and Drasna are part of the reason Diantha is so mogged lmao
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>>58261397
>Siebold mogs
>FUCKING KNIGHT ARMOR
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>>58261397
Difficulty-wise, definitely XY's. The fact that they only have 4 mons is criminal, but they don't even get a level increase when you rematch them.
Design-wise, probably DPPt's. Outside of Flint (because of Ronald McDonald and lol no fire type memes) they are very forgettable.
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>>58261397
The way the Sinnoh and Kalos E4s got better treatment in the Ashaime then the Unova E4 (which was the 2nd it not the most popular Elite Four group prior to Paldea) got jackshit?

Only Caitlyn had a appearance in the Ashaime, the other 3 never did, even when they were popular (by E4 standards)
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>>58261766
>unova elite 4
>popular
is that some kind of bait or something
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>>58261443
>but they don't even get a level increase when you rematch them.
They are the highest leveled E4 ever before rematches though.
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>>58261773
No, they were top 2 (now top 3 behind Kanto and probably Paldea), maybe Johto or Alola in 4th (interchangeable) and then there’s the rest
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>>58261397
>The only E4 that gives any semblance of a challenge vs the ones with the best designs
Neither. It’s Hoenn
>forgettable cakewalk with Sidney
>Phoebe & Glacia have teams worse than Flint
>Drake is the only ounce of soul here
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>>58261397
Gen 5
Most forgettable too
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>>58261877
They can’t be more forgettable than Hoenn’s or Kalos’ right?
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>>58261766
>Paldea
>Popular
LMAO!!!
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>>58261773
>>58261877
>>58261892
weak baits
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>>58261893
Nobody gives a fuck about Paldea, I think there are like 2 recognizable characters and even those are shit.
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Yeah, all of Paldea's characters are either slop or shit, I don't think anyone with two brain cells making synapses can deny it, It is simply a fact as obvious as the sky being blue.
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>>58261901
Larry and Rika are two of the most popular characters in the series full stop, especially overseas, and Poppy has popularity as well from the absurdity of her being in the E4. Only the dragon guy isn't cared about.
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>>58261934
oops, thought this was gyms
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>>58261925
>>He thinks the trannys on xhitter self-inserting themselves into the green haired man mean something.
LMAO
>Rika
>especially overseas
LMAO!!
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>>58261397
shitnoh easily
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>>58261397
Sinnoh is strongest E4 though
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>>58261980
Rika is one of the few cases where despite having a shitload of fanart, the majority of it is not hentai

The number difference between Danbooru and R34 is night and day
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>>58262008
That's right, nobody gives a fuck about Rika outside of japan, you can pretend that a dozen nips spamming fanarts means something, but japan is a very small island, No character in Paldea is really popular or relevant hahaha haHahahAh ahAHahAh hAHahAH ahA
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>>58261397
>worst E4
Kalos and Hoenn E4s are the worst ones
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>>58261397
there has never been a good E4, not one.
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>>58261773
the BW elite 4 theme has 16 million views on youtube, just saying
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>>58262039
that doesn't make sense, does it? what is your criteria for a good E4?
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>>58261397
Kalos, at least the Sinnoh E4 were somewhat challenging and you actually met some of it's members outside of the league. Iirc there are rematches with ehe Kalos E4 in the Battle Chateau but those are unnecessarily hard to unlock.
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>>58262057
>at least the Sinnoh E4 were somewhat challenging
ok but what if I'm not dogshit at the game
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>>58262060
then you shouldn't playing pokemon for its difficulty
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>>58262057
>and you actually met some of it's members outside of the league
You aight, schizobro?
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>>58262044
Probably “don’t just be 4 more gym leaders basically” I assume

He probably wants optimal/competitive strats
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>>58262071
nobody remembers this.
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>>58262026
Tell that to Nemona, Iono, and Grusha

Just sayin
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>>58262081
I clearly did. You aight, schizobro?
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>>58261430
>Sinnoh's E4 are just guys you meet at a coffee shop.
that's why they're good.
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>>58262081
Nobody remembers X/Y in general

Besides Greninja, Fairy-type, Sylveon, Aegislash, Talonflame, and of course mega evolutions (as well as the EXP Share)

Nobody remembers the Kalos cast especially
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>>58262044
>what is your criteria for a good E4?
I'd say:
>be intimidating/cool/not goofy
>be distant but with interesting lore
>don't share gym types
>have actually challenging teams/strategies
none have surpassed kanto which is itself flawed, a good one would have to at least be better than it.
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>>58262084
no you didn't
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>>58262076
>>58262044
>>58262093

Told you
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>>58262093
The only E4 that ever shares a Type with anything are Johto, Alola, and Paldea
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>>58262093
>>have actually challenging teams/strategies
>none have surpassed kanto
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>>58262111
>none have surpassed kanto
>which is itself flawed
meaning I take issue with it because it doesn't meet the standards
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>>58262092
>nobody remembers X/Y in general
>that's why I perpetually seethe over X/Y
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>>58261397
why are you pretending Hoenn E4 doesnt belong here?
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>>58262169
because the Hoenn cast is the actual most forgettable cast despite how hard redditors keep trying to force the "Kalos is forgettable" meme.
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>>58262135
There was literally only 1 Ghost-type line and 1 Dragon-type line in Kanto, so it’s not necessarily Agatha’s or Lance’s fault, and there was only 4 fully evolved non-legendary Ice-types for Lorelei to use

Johto wasn’t much better for Ghost and Dragon as they both only got 1 mon each (not even a full evolutionary line)
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>>58262143
this except it's you perpetually seething over gens 4 and 5
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>>58262183
nobody claims gen 4 and 5 are forgettable because unlike gen 6 people are able to make actual arguments for how gen 4 and 5 are bad
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>>58262143
nobody claims gen 6 is forgettable because unlike gen 4 and 5 people are able to make actual arguments for how gen 6 is bad
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>>58262197
>nobody claims gen 6 is forgettable
>>58262081
>>58262092
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>>58261397
Sinnoh. Cynthia hard carries the sinnoh league whereas Diantha is a nerf who sabotages her own league. If you swap Drasna and Diantha the Kalos league becomes much more memorable because it ends on a high note instead of a wet fart.
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>>58261397
>Ronald McDonald
>Ice Agatha
>Diet Bugsy
>Lorelei male
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>>58262361
Ground Agatha. Ice agatha was in Hoenn.
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DONARUDO NO UWASA
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>>58262182
They get away with it though because back then ghost and dragon were "novel" types, plus Johto is built off Kanto
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>>58262371
Ground Agatha with an ice specialist design
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>>58261397
Unova
Literally who central
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>>58261397
Sinnoh. Kalos has the Malva seethe blindside and the group got the best MastersEx E4 remixes (Particularly Siebold).

That said Diantha was dogshit and is mogged by all Sinnoh E4 members in being memorable.
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>>58262435
>Goth-flavored Velma
>Character from Sinnoh aged up to become a sexy Sleeping Beauty
>Extremely popular pretty boy that came back in Alola
>Great Value Bruno

3/4 ain't that bad
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>>58261397
Sinnoh's, because the only woman is "Agatha if she wasn't a crotchety bitch."
Meanwhile Kalos has hatefuck potential with Malva and a higher tier GILF in Drasna.
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>>58262382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joyhkWxiR-0
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>be a bugfag
>we finally got an E4 representative
>personality is white bread with water
Truly sad, at least his Platinum team is cool.
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>>58262493
Crazy they thought Bertha would be a good idea when the main reason people like Agatha is because she a crotchety bitch
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>>58261397
Hoenn E4 is the most literal who
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>>58261397
Sinnoh's e4 is actually competent and Flint is somewhat plot relevant so that makes them best one in the series.
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>>58262636
The teraleak bios basically made her as a joke by outright saying "make people question their relationship" but I don't think most people noticed

Would tho
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>>58261397
Depends on what aspects you define as "worse."

I mainly judge E4 on the basis of their personality, designs, and their teams. Gen 3 has the most forgettable E4. No one gives a flying fuck about Phoebe, Sidney, and Glacia.
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>>58262943
Phoebe is hot and Drake has a sick design.
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>>58262435
>Great designs
>Best battle theme
>Prior to BDSP they had the strongest rematch teams of any E4

They aight
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>>58261397
At least the fire girl did go out of her way to be part of the postgame
None of the others ever do anything important
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i'm glad we can all agree hoenn has the worst elite 4
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>>58262177
Only underagedfags born after 2010 think that's true
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>>58262177
That's Johto
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>>58262071
>postgame
Hardly counts, but it still counts.
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>>58262435
>character so good they brought him back for Sun and Moon

You can't say the same about any of the gen 4 members.
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>>58263073
Your numbers prove otherwise. HGSS is a hard-carry and outranks both RSE and ORAS

BDSP really was a fuckin nerf to Gen IV goddamn
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>>58263175
>rse + oras = 14k
>gsc + hgss = 13k
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>>58263196
You're so fucking desperate wow
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>>58263200
concession accepted faggot
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>>58261397
Gen 4
Gen 6 has a lot of stinkers too but at least I can fap to Drasna
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>>58263204
>Uuuu you gotta add them together for me to be right

Most of RSE is probably May bloat anyway
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>>58261397
gen 4's elite 4 is a complete joke
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>>58262435
>I'm a closet unovasexual
We know.
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>>58261443
I went through the five stages of kek watching Lopunny run Sunny Day and Fire Punch. That's the shit you'd call am epic strategy in the first grade before you learn math. But evidently it was enough to grant you a top slot in Sinnoh.
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>>58261397
Galar has the worst Elite Four. Have you seen them? They're horrible.
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>>58261397
Sinnoh e4 sucks shit
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>>58261397
Aaron is a qt3.14 so gen 6
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>>58261397
Galar > Kanto > Johto > Hoenn > Kalos > Unova > Paldea > Alola > Sinnoh
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>>58264166
>gen 4's elite 4 is a complete joke
its literally the strongest e4 tho
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>>58264189
I did not say that Sinnoh's E4 was great either difficulty-wise, especially DP's. But Platinum exists and makes DP irrelevant (Lopunny being used only in DP for example).
But even if we keep only DP's E4, I would still consider XY's to be the worst due to them having ONLY 4 pokemon and some of the worst teams ever (Malva being the absolute worst and Drasna using all the shittiest dragons). The other two are somewhat decent because they actually use good pokemon (Aegislash, Scizor, Starmie, Gyarados...). But this E4 also suffers from XY being the easiest game ever due to all the new stuff they don't get access to (Megas, Affection, etc...).
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>>58264235
Objectively the sexiest and best member but the other 3 clowns ruin it
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>>58261430
>Bertha sexo
Creepy



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