Which is the worse E4?
>>58261397the legends arceus one
>bug shitter>discount agatha>lol fire type in sinnoh>discount willKalos at least has the Team Flare bitch and dragon GILF
Bertha sexo but it's not really a contest, Sinnoh's E4 are just guys you meet at a coffee shop. They lack charisma. Feels intentional to put even more focus on Cynthia as a Champion. They really should've stopped having E4s by this point since they kept getting less interesting. Unova's is fine though, I guessThat said Malva and Drasna are part of the reason Diantha is so mogged lmao
>>58261397>Siebold mogs>FUCKING KNIGHT ARMOR
>>58261397Difficulty-wise, definitely XY's. The fact that they only have 4 mons is criminal, but they don't even get a level increase when you rematch them.Design-wise, probably DPPt's. Outside of Flint (because of Ronald McDonald and lol no fire type memes) they are very forgettable.
>>58261397The way the Sinnoh and Kalos E4s got better treatment in the Ashaime then the Unova E4 (which was the 2nd it not the most popular Elite Four group prior to Paldea) got jackshit?Only Caitlyn had a appearance in the Ashaime, the other 3 never did, even when they were popular (by E4 standards)
>>58261766>unova elite 4>popular is that some kind of bait or something
>>58261443>but they don't even get a level increase when you rematch them.They are the highest leveled E4 ever before rematches though.
>>58261773No, they were top 2 (now top 3 behind Kanto and probably Paldea), maybe Johto or Alola in 4th (interchangeable) and then there’s the rest
>>58261397>The only E4 that gives any semblance of a challenge vs the ones with the best designsNeither. It’s Hoenn>forgettable cakewalk with Sidney >Phoebe & Glacia have teams worse than Flint>Drake is the only ounce of soul here
>>58261397Gen 5Most forgettable too
>>58261877They can’t be more forgettable than Hoenn’s or Kalos’ right?
>>58261766>Paldea>PopularLMAO!!!
>>58261773>>58261877>>58261892weak baits
>>58261893Nobody gives a fuck about Paldea, I think there are like 2 recognizable characters and even those are shit.
Yeah, all of Paldea's characters are either slop or shit, I don't think anyone with two brain cells making synapses can deny it, It is simply a fact as obvious as the sky being blue.
>>58261901Larry and Rika are two of the most popular characters in the series full stop, especially overseas, and Poppy has popularity as well from the absurdity of her being in the E4. Only the dragon guy isn't cared about.
>>58261934oops, thought this was gyms
>>58261925>>He thinks the trannys on xhitter self-inserting themselves into the green haired man mean something.LMAO>Rika>especially overseasLMAO!!
>>58261397shitnoh easily
>>58261397Sinnoh is strongest E4 though
>>58261980Rika is one of the few cases where despite having a shitload of fanart, the majority of it is not hentaiThe number difference between Danbooru and R34 is night and day
>>58262008That's right, nobody gives a fuck about Rika outside of japan, you can pretend that a dozen nips spamming fanarts means something, but japan is a very small island, No character in Paldea is really popular or relevant hahaha haHahahAh ahAHahAh hAHahAH ahA
>>58261397>worst E4Kalos and Hoenn E4s are the worst ones
>>58261397there has never been a good E4, not one.
>>58261773the BW elite 4 theme has 16 million views on youtube, just saying
>>58262039that doesn't make sense, does it? what is your criteria for a good E4?
>>58261397Kalos, at least the Sinnoh E4 were somewhat challenging and you actually met some of it's members outside of the league. Iirc there are rematches with ehe Kalos E4 in the Battle Chateau but those are unnecessarily hard to unlock.
>>58262057>at least the Sinnoh E4 were somewhat challengingok but what if I'm not dogshit at the game
>>58262060then you shouldn't playing pokemon for its difficulty
>>58262057>and you actually met some of it's members outside of the leagueYou aight, schizobro?
>>58262044Probably “don’t just be 4 more gym leaders basically” I assumeHe probably wants optimal/competitive strats
>>58262071nobody remembers this.
>>58262026Tell that to Nemona, Iono, and GrushaJust sayin
>>58262081I clearly did. You aight, schizobro?
>>58261430>Sinnoh's E4 are just guys you meet at a coffee shop.that's why they're good.
>>58262081Nobody remembers X/Y in general Besides Greninja, Fairy-type, Sylveon, Aegislash, Talonflame, and of course mega evolutions (as well as the EXP Share)Nobody remembers the Kalos cast especially
>>58262044>what is your criteria for a good E4?I'd say:>be intimidating/cool/not goofy>be distant but with interesting lore>don't share gym types>have actually challenging teams/strategiesnone have surpassed kanto which is itself flawed, a good one would have to at least be better than it.
>>58262084no you didn't
>>58262076>>58262044>>58262093Told you
>>58262093The only E4 that ever shares a Type with anything are Johto, Alola, and Paldea
>>58262093>>have actually challenging teams/strategies>none have surpassed kanto
>>58262111>none have surpassed kanto >which is itself flawedmeaning I take issue with it because it doesn't meet the standards
>>58262092>nobody remembers X/Y in general>that's why I perpetually seethe over X/Y
>>58261397why are you pretending Hoenn E4 doesnt belong here?
>>58262169because the Hoenn cast is the actual most forgettable cast despite how hard redditors keep trying to force the "Kalos is forgettable" meme.
>>58262135There was literally only 1 Ghost-type line and 1 Dragon-type line in Kanto, so it’s not necessarily Agatha’s or Lance’s fault, and there was only 4 fully evolved non-legendary Ice-types for Lorelei to useJohto wasn’t much better for Ghost and Dragon as they both only got 1 mon each (not even a full evolutionary line)
>>58262143this except it's you perpetually seething over gens 4 and 5
>>58262183nobody claims gen 4 and 5 are forgettable because unlike gen 6 people are able to make actual arguments for how gen 4 and 5 are bad
>>58262143nobody claims gen 6 is forgettable because unlike gen 4 and 5 people are able to make actual arguments for how gen 6 is bad
>>58262197>nobody claims gen 6 is forgettable>>58262081>>58262092
>>58261397Sinnoh. Cynthia hard carries the sinnoh league whereas Diantha is a nerf who sabotages her own league. If you swap Drasna and Diantha the Kalos league becomes much more memorable because it ends on a high note instead of a wet fart.
>>58261397>Ronald McDonald>Ice Agatha>Diet Bugsy>Lorelei male
>>58262361Ground Agatha. Ice agatha was in Hoenn.
DONARUDO NO UWASA
>>58262182They get away with it though because back then ghost and dragon were "novel" types, plus Johto is built off Kanto
>>58262371Ground Agatha with an ice specialist design
>>58261397UnovaLiterally who central
>>58261397Sinnoh. Kalos has the Malva seethe blindside and the group got the best MastersEx E4 remixes (Particularly Siebold).That said Diantha was dogshit and is mogged by all Sinnoh E4 members in being memorable.
>>58262435>Goth-flavored Velma>Character from Sinnoh aged up to become a sexy Sleeping Beauty>Extremely popular pretty boy that came back in Alola>Great Value Bruno3/4 ain't that bad
>>58261397Sinnoh's, because the only woman is "Agatha if she wasn't a crotchety bitch."Meanwhile Kalos has hatefuck potential with Malva and a higher tier GILF in Drasna.
>>58262382https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joyhkWxiR-0
>be a bugfag>we finally got an E4 representative>personality is white bread with waterTruly sad, at least his Platinum team is cool.
>>58262493Crazy they thought Bertha would be a good idea when the main reason people like Agatha is because she a crotchety bitch
>>58261397Hoenn E4 is the most literal who
>>58261397Sinnoh's e4 is actually competent and Flint is somewhat plot relevant so that makes them best one in the series.
>>58262636The teraleak bios basically made her as a joke by outright saying "make people question their relationship" but I don't think most people noticedWould tho
>>58261397Depends on what aspects you define as "worse."I mainly judge E4 on the basis of their personality, designs, and their teams. Gen 3 has the most forgettable E4. No one gives a flying fuck about Phoebe, Sidney, and Glacia.
>>58262943Phoebe is hot and Drake has a sick design.
>>58262435>Great designs>Best battle theme>Prior to BDSP they had the strongest rematch teams of any E4They aight
>>58261397At least the fire girl did go out of her way to be part of the postgameNone of the others ever do anything important
i'm glad we can all agree hoenn has the worst elite 4
>>58262177Only underagedfags born after 2010 think that's true
>>58262177That's Johto
>>58262071>postgameHardly counts, but it still counts.
>>58262435>character so good they brought him back for Sun and MoonYou can't say the same about any of the gen 4 members.
>>58263073Your numbers prove otherwise. HGSS is a hard-carry and outranks both RSE and ORASBDSP really was a fuckin nerf to Gen IV goddamn
>>58263175>rse + oras = 14k>gsc + hgss = 13k
>>58263196You're so fucking desperate wow
>>58263200concession accepted faggot
>>58261397Gen 4 Gen 6 has a lot of stinkers too but at least I can fap to Drasna
>>58263204>Uuuu you gotta add them together for me to be rightMost of RSE is probably May bloat anyway
>>58261397gen 4's elite 4 is a complete joke
>>58262435>I'm a closet unovasexualWe know.
>>58261443I went through the five stages of kek watching Lopunny run Sunny Day and Fire Punch. That's the shit you'd call am epic strategy in the first grade before you learn math. But evidently it was enough to grant you a top slot in Sinnoh.
>>58261397Galar has the worst Elite Four. Have you seen them? They're horrible.
>>58261397Sinnoh e4 sucks shit
>>58261397Aaron is a qt3.14 so gen 6
>>58261397Galar > Kanto > Johto > Hoenn > Kalos > Unova > Paldea > Alola > Sinnoh
>>58264166>gen 4's elite 4 is a complete jokeits literally the strongest e4 tho
>>58264189I did not say that Sinnoh's E4 was great either difficulty-wise, especially DP's. But Platinum exists and makes DP irrelevant (Lopunny being used only in DP for example).But even if we keep only DP's E4, I would still consider XY's to be the worst due to them having ONLY 4 pokemon and some of the worst teams ever (Malva being the absolute worst and Drasna using all the shittiest dragons). The other two are somewhat decent because they actually use good pokemon (Aegislash, Scizor, Starmie, Gyarados...). But this E4 also suffers from XY being the easiest game ever due to all the new stuff they don't get access to (Megas, Affection, etc...).
>>58264235Objectively the sexiest and best member but the other 3 clowns ruin it
>>58261430>Bertha sexoCreepy