Are you okay with half of the game and your starter mega's being locked behind day-one DLC?
>>58264420I'm not OK. I'm ecstatic. We paypiggies just can't stop winning.
>not actually day one>story can't be started until finishing the full game>NSO has been required for online functions since launch of the series proper on SwitchCan you not be poor and disingenuous?
>>58264420>day oneNever ceases to amaze me how retarded and illiterate forced outrage BBNDers are.
it's not my problem. i'm skipping. someone else can pay the pokéfag tax
>>58264439Let's be fair, there's a good number of them know rightly what is the actual content delivery timeline and understand it and still spew the "day one" horseshit, because they're actively trying to force a narrative, to try and ultimately reclaim their png list.
>>58264420>BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>58264420Yeah, I'm pirating anyway
>>58264420I mean it is not "day-one" DLC, but...why would they announce it right now? I know it was inevitable but the timing is so bizarre. With all the criticism Nintendo is getting from the past few years, they should have known that it was going to make a lot of people angry.
>>58264434I swear these people are one step away from crying that the main game isn't free. They all want it to be fortnite or something. Wait until they find out new TCG packs cost money
>>58264455Cause if gen 10 is this year, they probably announce it at pokemon day. Which is the only other reasonable slot for an other option for announcing mega dimension.But ZA DLC would just instantly fucking drown if you put it against gen 10.
>>58264455Because (and I can't stress this hard enough) the WHOLE Switch 2 game release cycle was pushed back because Nintendo wanted to delay launch to build stock reserves. And as L: Z-A ended up being intrinsically linked to S2, they similarly were delayed. Game was due last year and that's clear now, as they spent all of what would have been '24-'25 making the DLC. But they couldn't announce DLC for a game they hadn't properly revealed, nor could they in the middle of marketing lead-up either. They couldn't delay it further either (there was always a new Gen happening '26 regardless) so were left announcing it in their last possible chance - after the final trailer for the base game with a projected time of next year as delivery date (which I distrust, as I can see them releasing early as an anniversary bonus or some shit).
>>58264420But literally not a single word of your statement was true???
>>58264481>But ZA DLC would just instantly fucking drown if you put it against gen 10.Good. It should have been in the base game and was clearly cut just to sell DLC.
>>58264512It wasn't in the game anon. Game Freak aren't bioware, they don't cut story to sell. They do write extra story to give a point to buying DLC though and that's something Sugimori's gone on record to say in 2014 they'd consider in the future.>"Therefore, suppose we sell a pokémon for 100 yen, then we must prepare something that is worthy of that 100 yen, along with a reasonable consent for doing so".This shit wasn't cut, it was intended to be developed after the bulk of the main game, to then be released in the "fallow" year of 2025 (I should have realised there's going to be no gap years any longer, why outright harm your margin, when a cheap side story addition will bulk sales numbers. Sadly Nintendo couldn't keep their end the development agreement) after the main game's 2024 release along with the Switch 2.
>>58264420“Half the game”You mean additional content?? This is like calling Steve in smash “half the game”It’s DLC. But hey, congrats on being the smartest modern Pokemon hater!
>>58264528>reddit spacingLets not pretend that DLC coming out a few months after the game already released is not cut content (for 30$ btw).
>>58264495I'm imagining the following scenario.>Z-A is pretty much finished and ready to sell in 2024 (GFO mentioned the game was mostly finished and he played a old 2023 build)>"what the fuck you mean Switch 2 isn't coming out until halfway through the next year? We can't just move the entire team to a new game now!" >The team spends the next year working in a Z-A DLC >Gen 10 which was ALWAYS planned for 2026 won't change the release date so they must be done with Z-A until then>Z-A and DLC are scheduled to release on the same day, with the story of DLC only coming later (they did it that way so pre-orders could start alongside the main game and people starting Z-A wouldn't get gigaspoiled because the DLC story coming out on the same day)
>>58264537Let's not pretend that the studio versed in yearly released most likely had finished the actual game last year thus had a whole entire year to shit out post-game story content to kill time while they waited to reveal Gen 10 or that SS's DLC didn't launch within 6 months of SS's release either.
>>58264549Nah, the DLC's likely done and they're holding off "day one"ing it because they want kids to A) get the game and B) FINISH the game (neither of which are most likely to happen until mid-late December). The pre-order bonus is just that, a teaser for the DLC, like the unevolvable G. Slowpoke was for IoA. This time in the form of a fashion set.
>>58264552That should have been part of the main game if they already finish it or added the national dex.
>>58264420switch 1 piracy is still a thingpkhex is also still a thingvote with your fucking wallets or die giving your money to a corporation that hates you while being replaced by indians and africansyes, that's your futureenjoy seeing your scummy beloved corporation turn into a chicken tikka - jollof rice company as more and more indians and africans are crammed into your beloved wonderland japan, dumb goy cattle vermin
>>58264434>>58264439>announcing DLC before release>also a ragebaiter calling someone disingenouslmao
>>58264563I dunno what that’s supposed to mean but yeah pkhex is fun to mess around with
>>58264558Sorry dextard, that's not how this shit works in the slightest. Releasing last year would actively harm what Nintendo wanted to do with the game, by using Pokémon to sell Switch 2 uptake, BEFORE getting to Gen 10 and the povvo-friendly version that's ABSOLUTELY incoming, just as all core pokémon game releases on new Nintendo hardware wound up having a kid-friendly, cheaper revision model to sell alongside it. So they had to keep the game back. Doesn't mean they had to stop working, or do something they said was never going to be a thing again, due to how the real world works.
>>58264565>just becoming aware of industry practice in 2025So are you legitimately a young person, unaware of things or just another disingenuous cunt trying to push a shitty retard narrative?
>>58264557This is what I wanted to say with that post. They're holding off the DLC so players can take time playing the game instead being spoiled about DLC content. Also, the costumes are not pre-order bonuses. They're an integral part of the DLC and likely put there because policy/legal reasons (they would be selling a DLC with no content otherwise). The pre-orders already started and the DLC is officially scheduled to release alongside the game, even though the DLC will be only about two costumes then. The Galarian Slowpoke was part of the 1.1 Update of SwSh and not specifically part of the DLC (even if exists to hint on the DLC), not really the same deal here.
>>58264574Nobody said they had to release last year retard they should release complete games not have DLC a few months after it comes out, and if they really need to work on it more just delay it.
>>58264552>GF needs to wait for the gen 10 reveal to work on the gameAre you stupid.Speaking of something stupid, the assumption that our mystery complete build is actually complete is insanely nebulous. Its based on one guys description of it.Sword also had pretty feature complete builds a few years before; doesn't mean at fucking all they were final though. A lot of games can hit a feature complete state and then be sent back into the grinder.We've also seen statements that imply ZA has seen much more drastic changes than a lot of the year before builds we got in the teraleak. Pokemon design level changes.>>58264565Hope you've been crying at most of the industry cause ultimately this is just being transparent. Even pre DLC shit like emerald was being made during the tail end of its "base versions".DLC and its ilk is a planned product, they start it during development because not all development is equal.
>>58264524>It wasn't in the gameIt was. This is clearly the postgame cut out to be sold as separate DLC. Imagine if Delta episode was cut from ORAS and sold as DLC, that is what's happening here.
>>58264581This was never acceptable either lol.
>>58264582There is no reason it cant already be part of the game, game freak is notoriously lazy no reason they cant delay it other than releasing along side the cards and anime.
>>58264584It wasn't planned for the base game, you disingenuous little child. The fact you need to finish the actual game is proof of that. It also quite clearly didn't exist last year, because that's how Game Freak operate - staggered devcycles, so there's always a new game in the height of development, while they're readying release of a new one or content addition. The Switch 2 WAS planned for launch last year, until Nintendo delayed it late, so yeah they DID in fact have to launch it for '24, because that's when Nintendo WANTED it for release (as part of their intended Switch 2 launch year). I'm sorry game development as part of console development confuses the everliving fuck out of you, but I'm not your special ed teacher, much less one in general, so I ain't going to dogwalk you through it again.
>>58264591He didn't know that, I love how the first ones to call people zoomers (or something like that) are the actual zoomers themselves.
>>58264588Most likely as they had more time to go back and clean up things in places. But they didn't overhaul the thing akin to "putting it in the grinder" again. They had what they wanted, any changes was likely tweaks to areas, AI or other inconsequential in the overall things.
>>58264605>It wasn't planned for the base gameIt clearly was and was cut so they could sell you an incomplete/unfinished game and then sell you the rest of the game later for more money.
>>58264590I'm not seeing it, but then again, I'm not painting L: Z-A as anything but a tech demo, this time based in an urban environment and developed alongside the next Gen game, as a guide to building a gameworld, the same way L: A was a tech demo set in a wilderness and developed alongside the then next Gen game which ended up using it as a guide for building an open world. And I can absolutely see a tech demmo having story stapled onto it, rather than having a full DLC suite being written around it like SV's was.
>>58264607I'm 41 dude, but cheers for the projection. And you're wrong, it absolutely was to the market (fuckin' horse aromour, lol). That's why this shit sells and gets sold, while fucks like you sit on the internet crying about things selling and being sold. And deep in your heart, you know it doesn't make a tap of difference too, which is why you're so mad.
>>58264613Repeating yourself won't make it true lad. Just make you sound like a scratched record.
>>58264613>he unironically thinks "hyperspace lumiose" was a product tied with the main development staffThis is like the most DLC sounding sounding DLC pokemon has. This shit is absolutely not built into the base game in an organic way, not that any pokemon game is really. They just have weird placeholder shit for DLC they can staple on.The DLC is probably from an offshoot branch of the main team(pretty sure all the pokemon DLCs are largely), and wasn't allowed to be shifted when it was completed due to delays even if that did happen because thats an awful look internally "whoops we lost a whole release point".
>>58264613Love how you have no proof other than “I’m a little cry baby bitch”Shut up anon
>>58264628>>58264632>.t goyslopperNo other fanbsae would defend this other than poketards lmao
>>58264646Spoken like a true right wing grifter. Y’know, like a modern Pokémon hater and 4chan user
>>58264654>right wing grifterokay tranny
>>58264657Rather that than suck daddy Trumps dick and cry.
>>58264630It was built into the main game. It was the post-game but was cut for money.
>>58264625>but cheers for the projectionLikewise, bootlicker.
>>58264628Yea the people who genuinely think it was designed as content for the game and scrapped instead of content intentionally for DLC to give players extra content seem to be missing a few up there in the head
>>58264420Yes. I already pre-ordered.
>>58264537And your proof of it being cut content is…?Oh, nothing? It’s just you being an ass? Who knew
>>58264684Same. No amount of 4chan doom posting can change that cuz 4chan is jubilee the lowest common denominator in Internet drama
>>58264678It's very clear this was base game content that was cut out so they could make more money.
>>58264434>Can you not be poor>Buys Nintendo's cheap toys instead of a good Console/PC
>>58264702Again how? I keep seeing this point but no actual explanation
>need to pay almost twice the games price to access the full gameThis shit will hurt them.
>>58264713It's the post-game. It's the Delta episode of the game except they cut it and are making you pay extra for it, just like the starter megas.
>>58264663Who said I like trump troon?
>>58264732There’s already a post game. This is additional content, not the fucking post game. The fact you don’t understand that is pathetic.
>>58264733I’m getting the vibe that you suck him off whenever he makes a decision that just fucks everyone over.
>>58264737>thinks about trump and penis constantlygo back to discord tranny
>>58264734>There’s already a post gameThere isn't. It was cut so they could sell you the game again. It's day-one on disc DLC, that means it was cut.
>>58264751There is. You’re making shit up then throwing a tantrum about the thing you made up.
>>58264751Wrong. The DLC does not release on launch. Lying to lie?
>>58264750Yea sorry I don’t take any kind of shit from Trump bootlickers. Your opinions are irrelevant and worthless
>>58264763>has to strawman me as his amerimutt political party pathetic
>>58264760They are releasing an incomplete game.
>>58264711>proving her povertyI'm buying a gaming laptop lad, but waiting for a deal on something worth 2.2 or 2.3k for about 2k, which will be most likely during Black Friday or the january sales. But PC/Nintendo has been the optimum way to experience gamming generations, since games went multiplat and started appearing on both PC and console. The other two are worthless for "exclusives", for everything else a PC runs them far better than they could hope to see. Interesting you push them, as if they're not up to their ballbags in propagating the shittier practices you're trying to tar pokémon with.
>>58264766How?? By your logic is smash incomplete cuz Steve is DLC and not on the base roster? Again, you literally have zero evidence of what you’re claiming, you’re throwing a fit about something you made up in your head.
>>58264726And other great lies to tell yourself, kek.
>>58264765Wasn’t really a strawman, was more like me telling you you sounded like a Trump supporter, and judging by how offended you are, I’d say I was right.
>>58264756I get you love the pokemon company more than anything if you are willing to defend every bad practice, but it's very clear they cut the post game specifically so they could squeeze extra money from you by selling it separately, just like with the starter megas.
>>58264751The "post-game" is the online battleshit the retards cried L: A didn't have (you know, because they held back the Kalos starter mega stones for it?). This is extra story developed after.>thinking the tech demo WASN'T developed akin to the last tech demo, despite clearly displaying how it's such a tech demo at heart
>>58264777>you sounded like a Trump supporterand you sound like a tranny faggot.
>>58264779How is pointing out your lies defending them? You’re blatantly lying and then throwing a fit when people call you out on it. Am I to assume you have a problem with every game with DLC?? or is this just you crying because you wanna be a little bitch?
>>58264777You know what they say, walks like a duck, shits like a duck...
>>58264779> just like with the starter megas.GF nor TPC make direct money from this. Thats actually for release cadence, the fact you have to pay for nintendo online is a irrelevant side effect to them.
>>58264781No, the post game is story X,Y,Z. The leaks have a pretty good job of describing that and they haven’t been wrong so far, again, lying to lie. Has 4chan ever made a coherent argument that didn’t involve them lying out of their ass?
>>58264782Again, rather that than a Trump bootlicker
>>58264790I'll be honest dude, I've been distrusting all "leaks" unless backed by visual evidence so ain't been paying attention to any that shit until we got the mega description leaks. Care to explain what you know regarding it?
>>58264802If it shuts you up and stops your blatant lying, then sure. Firstly, there’s an infinite version of the ZA Royale, no other details were given.A new area around the Tower is unlocked after the main story, sort of a graveyard.There will be an X and Y story revolving around the prism tower where you can catch Xerneas and YveltalZ story will have you fight Lysandre then Zygarde. We know Mewtwo is also in so there’s probably something for that as well, that’s just what one of the leakers said so there’s definitely more. Either way, there is a post game..
>>58264814Oh so it's seemingly no more post-game than the average rehash addition, yep. Looks like the online portion is the proper post-game. I'm not the little fuck running around claiming the DLC's cut content by the way cock eyes, I legitimately ignored the discord krew's witterings on "the game", meaning I had no idea what the *pfft* post-game was. Wild I was able to surmise it from official news releases though, huh? Can't hang form change items on online battling and expect them to NOT be the focus of the post game gameplay, especially when the story DLC's not arriving until next year.
>>58264830But that still puts out the theory that there isn’t a post game. I don’t like that they locked the stones behind ranked so I’ll give you that. I just want the other guy to stop lying. And like I said, there could be more post game, this is just what we know of.Oh also “cock eyes” is kinda weak, if. You’re gonna insult me, be bold.
>>58264420They did this shit with SWSH and SV but at least had the braincels to not announce the DLC before the fucking games where out.
>>58264785I'm not lying, you are.
>>58264790Postgame is the mega dimension DLC.
>>58264565>>announcing DLC before releaseit doesn't fucking matter when they announce it, it's gonna happen and every company is already doing this shit any ways - if they called it a roadmap nobody would be complainingpokemon fans really love to make a big deal about complete non-issues and gloss over actual problems
>>58264420Yes, because I’m not buying it and seeing pokebabies seethe this much because they have to put in the bare minimum effort to earn their hecking badass supah saiyan shillmon forms for their coddled shillmons, espailly when those retards had no problem with all the actual bullshit Game freak has done, is fucking hilarious
>>58264931How? You have presented no evidence and I have.
I like how redditors are trying to conflate “announcing the dlc before the game’s release date” and “day 1 dlc” just so they can pretend to be outragedfucking smash bros announced dlc before the game’s release and literally no one cared. But screeching about Pokemon is trendy so I have to pretend to be mad to get le ebin upvotes
>>58264950These aren’t fans. There’s an important distinction
>>58264981For real lmao. Just lying and crying because they need to make people miserable
One thing that made PLA so great is that it is a legitimate stand-alone game. You buy it and you get access to it all. No Pokemon locked behind version exclusives or trade evolutions or time gated events or extra purchases for cut content. You buy the game once and you actually get the games content.
>>58264991>this is how plasskek cope with their shitty tech demo flopping too hard to deserve a true dlcLmao
>>58264991Shaymin and Darkrai would like a few words, or a $60 purchase
>>58264420This might be the first Pokémon game I skip just because I don't have as much time as I used to.
>>58264549So they were going to release a half-baked, one-year-development game AGAIN? And they were only stopped by Nintendo delaying the new console? And I can easily presume now that they didn't use the extra time to fix issues with PLZA and instead decided to do Pokopia and maybe work on the DLC?Maybe PLZA will be yet another glitchy mess from GF who doesn't learn from their mistakes because consumers gotta consume
>>58264991>PLA so great is that it is a legitimate stand-alone gamePLA was anything but Pokemon it would be considered a bad tech demo.
