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The short queens carry
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>>58266546
No way Perrin is smaller than Miriam
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>>58266591
you could have always stood right next to her to make it obvious you know
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>>58266546
Geez, those proportions. The dancer's head is gigantic and Geeta looks like a model from another game.
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>>58266716
Link to the video?
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>>58266822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmpREiP2Yn4
i got you
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>>58266546
There's no way that's right...

>>58266615
Holy fuck!
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>>58266546
I dunno why they chose to make almost every girl in SV a stick. It wasn’t like that in past games.
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>not posting my hot conquistador genes mama
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>>58267851
>I dunno why they chose to make almost every girl in SV a stick
Did you even see the video you linked retard?
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>>58267863
She honestly might have the best figure in the game. She doesn’t have stick legs.
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>>58267897
Yes? She was saying how skinny most of them are.
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>>58267559
Impregnating all of them
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>>58267902
You know Clair is a standalone, and 98% of bitches in Johto are skinny too, right?
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>>58267910
The fuck, you say?
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>>58267910
Look at this twig! She’s practically a skeleton!
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>>58267910
If you’re just talking about Jasmine—yes, she’s frail, but even she has a much better hip-to-waist ratio than pretty much all of SV.
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I wonder if Poppy is shorter than Hapu?
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>>58267942
Same goes for Lyra. So that covers every major Johto girl. The two with skinny thighs are both children and even they have more feminine figures than almost the entirety of SV.
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>>58267950
If the designs are more "feminine," why doesn’t anyone draw the Gen 2 flopped bitches?
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>>58267950
>even they have more feminine figures than almost the entirety of SV.
you're wrong here, the video tells you a good chunk of gen 9 women have medium to large size breasts
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>>58267964
>>58267979
Notice how you ignore the hip-to-waist ratio point, which is literally the most important aspect of femininity. That’s why a man getting massive implants doesn’t suddenly look female. And the popularity is really a non-sequitur. Hornet from Hollow Knight is a literal stick figure and has tons of fanart of her with a sexy body.
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>>58268024
>And the popularity is really a non-sequitur.
True. But in a span of over 20+ years, only one (1) Johtonian has a higher ratio of 18+ pictures.

Are Johto "women" really that ugly, they even flopped at porn? lmao
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>>58268037
>admits that the point he’s making is meaningless for the argument he’s trying to make
>still goes ahead with it
Ok.

Also, I don’t base the things I like based on how popular they are. That’s NPC behavior and would lead you to conclude that Taylor Swift is a musical genius and Avengers Endgame is the greatest film ever made.

There are any number of reasons why the Johto girls would be less popular, the most obvious being that Johto as a whole is often overlooked as it’s the oldest gen that isn’t Kanto, which obviously gets pushed the hardest of all gens to this day despite its age because it was the first one. That doesn’t mean that the girls aren’t feminine or attractive. It’s simply a fact that they’re more curvy (feminine) than the skinny girls in SV. That’s the point that you tried to argue against to begin with before attempting to pivot to an argument about popularity, which again has no bearing on quality or attractiveness.
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>>58268048
>Porn is no longer a metric, despite my main argument that they look more "feminine."
>Hapu is a popular character now
>Jothonians are le underrated, despite constantly getting merch and being shilled in Masters.
Nigga, you're clearly malding for no reason. Better necrobump that Jasmine thread for an entire month.
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the only problem i have with iono is that shes a womanlet. fucking 150-160cm shortie on heels. which could mean that she is even shorter. and i dont like shorties. i like when girls are around my height of at least 170, so she wont look like a child, but then again, iono is a womanlet and her genes might ruin our childern making them short too ;~;
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>>58268224
well, at least shes a funny gremlin and i can pick her up if she misbehaves
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>>58268214
>>Porn is no longer a metric, despite my main argument that they look more "feminine."
It’s not, as has been explained multiple times. Again, Hornet is a stick figure who has a mountain of porn.

>>Hapu is a popular character now
???
Are you arguing that porn is a measure of popularity or not?

>>Jothonians are le underrated, despite constantly getting merch and being shilled in Masters.
I didn’t say they were underrated. I said that popularity isn’t a determinant of quality or attractiveness.

If your argument is that Johto girls are sticks and Claire is the only thick one:
That argument was already dismantled by just posting images of other Johto girls. I’ll remind everyone that this was his original claim, and he shifted to a separate argument upon losing this one.

If your argument is that porn is a metric of popularity:
You just disagreed with that yourself with your Hapu comment.

If your argument is that porn is a metric of attractiveness:
Again, I point you to Hornet the stick figure and her mountain of porn.

Pick your argument, you’ve lost all three.

>you’re malding
Ah yes, the most common response to losing an argument, just claim that your opponent is mad.

You’re malding, seething as well.
See how easy that is?

>Jasmine thread
Not mine but thanks for admitting that any Johto thread has you upset.
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>>58268224
>150-160cm shortie
Canonically 150 if you are interested
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>>58268272
ik, but there was old sheet where she was 158
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>>58268272
Thing is that clearly includes the magnemites on her head for some reason. Like the height they give for Lisia in internal documents explicitly includes her hair. Like they just sometimes decide you will never get an actual measurement.

And I donn't know how everyone agreed to go with 150cm for the SV protagonist figures. That IS in fact about how tall both their in-game models are. but twith the figures the male is actually a bit taller than the female.
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>>58268272
I’m equal to or taller than all but the four tallest.
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>>58266591
That makes it even hotter. Imagine Florian tossing Perrin's tiny body about in that tent as he shoves his Diamond-hard penis into her every hole low enough to wake up the nearby Bloodmoon Ursaluna and draw it to their tent so it can joins in too.
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>>58268286
>old sheet where she was 158
Source?
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>>58268272
>Nemona and Nessa are taller than Cynthia

Wtf?? Isn’t Nemona just a high schooler?
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>>58268224
>i like when girls are around my height of at least 170
That's still fucking short. 180cm+ is where it's at for actual humans.
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>>58268224
>m-muh genes!
Actual autism
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>>58268378
Most girls finish growing when they're like 16 anon. She also didn't grow after the 1 year timeskip in the anime. She's not a little kid.
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I don’t care about height. Tall girls and short girls can both be cute. I do hate how male feminists have made liking tall girls cringe with their “step on me dommy mommy I’m super submissive!” bullshit.
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>>58268336
Different postures and very small margin of errors are a thing, and they actually don't seem to include accesories. At least Victor and Gloria's figures have the same listed heights no matter what version you use (normal with a hat vs hatless gym challenger)
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>>58268384
>He likes 180cm "women"
You are a faggot
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>>58268384
>implying woman are equal to humans
lol. lamo even
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>>58268378
Cynthia is a nip, she's a short stick. No height, no curves, no sauce.
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>>58268427
im really thinking about making a "waifu meta" with how true esthets (like me) should perceive pokegirls
cynthia is sisterly type of woman, kind and stuff. pokegoddess cucks can hang themselves with their mommy shit
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>>58268427
Wrong on all three counts. She’s 3 inches taller than the average Japanese woman. As for curves and sauce, I direct you to her Summer outfit from this year.
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>>58268378
Nemona is a colossus, simple as.
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>>58268440
>172cm
>colossus
??? Are you Indian or SEA or something??
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>>58268413
Much like Jasmine's hair Iono needs the magnemites to reach Bugsy's height. Without them she's clearly shorter.
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>>58268437
>she's tall for a midget and looks good on the gacha!
fucking kek
Behold, sinnohfags' "mommy"
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>>58268427
>>58268437
>>58268522
I wish people appreciated Cynthia for her slender body instead of pretending she's a fat bimbo. Modern porn really rots a man's brain
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>>58268522
She's so hot...
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perrin is top tier petite
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>>58266546
>Both Dendra and Nemona are Sugimori's creations
>Both have the same height
Pottery
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>>58268522
>t-the official haha doesn’t count

lol, lmao.
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>>58268715
>redditspacing
>trying to excuse official *and* canon with official but non-canon gacha
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>>58268440
And just think, Carmine is taller still
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>>58268833
I wonder if she's the tallest japanese woman in the franchise
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>>58268791
>it may be official b-but.. shut up!!

Desperate.
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>>58268272
Short franchise
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>>58268862
>it's not canon b-but... shut up!
Dumb, desperate redditor.
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>>58268900
>it may be official b-but.. shut up!!

Desperate.
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>>58268900
>>58268937
Kiss already
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>>58268937
>lalalalalala
Glad to see even the redditor agrees Cynthia is canonically a lame stick. But hey, at least the gacha tricks you into thinking she's a hot mommy kek
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>>58268993
>it may be official b-but.. shut up!!

Desperate.
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>>58267851
Katy is pretty fucking delicious tbf
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>>58268272
Calem figure got announced and he's 150cm tall
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>>58268037
>>58267964
Kek johtimmies btfo
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>>58266546
how is it possible they're all ugly? even gen six models had some appeal with the female characters, all of these look uncanny.
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>>58269115
i kinda seriously doubt they measured the figure right. the proportions don't match the other stated 75mm figures AT ALL. not to mention game freak themselves made him noticably taller than may and brendan in the 6th gen 3ds engine.
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>>58269164
the game itself looks ugly and that hurts the models but perrin is a very successful sexy design.
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>>58267964
The gens based on how coomer they are
Gen 2: 0
Gen 3/6: 1
Gen 4/9/Hisui: 2
Gen 1: 3
Gen 5: 4
Gen 7: 5
Gen 8: 6
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>>58269184
XY and ORAS don't use the same scale for the models, even the chibis are slightly different
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>>58269185
I think Briar, Dendra, Nemona and Raifort look better in the games than the anime, Perrin, Katy and Carmine were upgraded in Horizons
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>>58269164
It's just the rendering style that makes them look bad
They look fine in Masters Ex
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>>58269214
seems the same to me. the Lass trainers look different in both games but both Lasses are the same height in blender. there's only a few set heights the overworld models seem to use but calem seems to be the same height as the teen npcs and only shorter than the adults. while brendan and may are inbetween the child and teen characters in height
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>>58269254
Compare Calem and Brendan's models. Brendan's chibi is actually taller than Calem's
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>>58269284
how'd you come to that conclusion? even in-game as i said brendan is shorter than the Lass trainers while Calem is just as tall as them.
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>>58269329
I think you have to scale their heads? Anyway the scale already looks different like how Brendan hands are bigger than Calem's despite being shorter
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>>58269366
brandan looks like that next to all the teen npcs from oras too though oras battle girls and delinquents also have similar proportions to calem Or Courtney since although she isn't a teenagerm she is specifically meant to be short in-universe so tehy made her model that size.
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>>58266591
She's from Poke-Japan
Japs are pretty small
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>>58269384
Carmine
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>>58268272
The Serena one really doesn't make sense. They do know she's at least 17, right?

>>58268378
Nemona is a westoid. Cynthia is your average petite Japanese woman: 158cm (which is what she is when you remove her heels)
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>>58269394
Outlier
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>>58269394
Farm girl freak
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>>58269329
Can you compare Calem and Brendan full body models? No overlap just having them side by side
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>>58269152
Samefagging is kinda cringe
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>>58269548
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>>58269587
No overlap, completely separated, like this
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>>58268416
t. manlet
i'm 198cm, anything below 180 and i have to crane my neck down just to look her in the eye
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>>58269631
That's pretty sick bro, now the only thing you need is someone who cares.
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>>58269618
don't feel like it
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Imagine wanting to be bigger than the thing you love. Only fags do that.
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>>58269631
>Is only 198cm
Im 205cm, sorry lil buddy only >200cm is consider man tier. That said based taste
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>>58266546
This just tells me Iono isn't really that short.
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>>58269677
in a game where the average comes out to like 5'6 she is.
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>>58269115
For real? His art makes him out to be a lot taller. Maybe because it was the first game with clothes customization they give him and Serena fashion model proportions.
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>>58269832
he's definitely supposed to be around 5'6. makes me want to measure that damn figure in person.
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>>58269677
keep in mind most heights in pokemon are bullshit, In Masters, Juliana is bigger than Marnie
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>>58266546
Mela is fun sized...
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>>58268272
This trollop is shorter than Penny
Sex her
Sex her without her body touching the ground
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>>58266591
Miriam is also wearing heels so she's probably Ioni height.
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>>58269983
iono's got a bit of heel too
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>>58269986
>Short girls keep getting shorter
They're gonna shrink into nothing...
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>>58270000
haha
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>Courtney: Age 22, 153 cm, 37 kg
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>>58268566
This but it’s Lusamine.
Hau literally confuses her for being a few years older than himself and the player, which, even if we’re being as generous as possible regarding the age of the main cast and say they’re seventeen going on eighteen, that means Lusamine looks like she’s 22-23 at absolute most.
Please stop making my svelte supermodel who’s actually a hag an overweight, fat-tittied whore, you have Wicke and Lana’s mother for that.
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>>58269842
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>>58271011
Man even giving Florian less childish clothes isn't enough to make him look as old as Calem. Art style surely does amazing things.
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>>58271070
Reminds me to when people freaked out by seeing Chase and Elaine in Master Sex because they were unchibified and looked about the same age as most of protagonists for once
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>>58271070
not only artstyle, but also fashion. calem wears thight pants, tall boots with blue laces lmao and jacket with high neck, which makes him look taller
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>>58271142
And Florian shoes are intentionally making him look more childish, too. I'm pretty sure it was on purpose, for XY they wanted le romance because le france which was outdone grealty by SV actual characterization and intimate moments lmao while for SV they wanted to focus on the school setting and coming to age thing, even naming the characters after childhood, so they made Calem look more adult for XY and then Florian look more of a kid for SV.
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>>58271070
This is so sad. Calem is 17 years old, and he's barely taller than a eleven year old kid.
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>>58271339
>>58269412
Emma is 16, but the MC is never said to be older than her, and the teraleak says they are 14.
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>>58271070
Shortlem is cute. CUTE!
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>>58271602
Oh my fucking god Eri
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>>58271630
>the tallest MCs are Victor and HGSS Red >>58268272
>still shorter than Rika and thus perfect for being breastfeed by Eri's conquistador tits
holy molly
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So what are the measurements for the generic trainers? In particular the Hiker female.
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>Katy's cannot be known because of apron
Disappointing, but understandable.
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>>58271142
literally compare their proportions too. calem is almost 6 heads tall. bugsy, brendan may, ethan, they are barely 5 heads tall. even in the promotional images calem looks taller than the delphox. if he actually is 75 mm and they aren't just having a major brain fart then they artistically ruined the whole set as they will never look correct next to each other.
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>>58271742
tallest protagonist is Wes since ingame he is taller than gardevoir and slightly shorter than typhlosion putting him at 5'6. He's also half a head taller than brendan and May when they get ported into Colosseum. Wes is an older teen so that's the scale calem is clearly meant to be at too.
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>>58266546
What the hell are they feeding Carmine in Kitakami?
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>>58271784
>Wes
Who? You are surely not trying to pass some non-canon spin off shit faggotas a real protagonist are you?
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>>58272052
when you could trade your pokemon into that game and pokemon from that gamme can be transfered all the way to current games they are not spin offs even if not the core series. first and foremost they were made as 3d battle simulators so you could see your handheld teams fight with fancier animation.
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>>58271779
Those were never gonna look correct next to each other because artstyle lmao
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>>58272069
>it's not a spin off if you can trade back and forth!
So according to you this isn't a spinoff huh? Opinion discarded.
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>>58272087
>a glorified PC box
not really
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>>58272087
a spin off is like pokemon pinball which doesn't maintain gameplay mechanics and compatability. even stadium were specifically made as companions tot he core handled titles rather than meant to stand alone. my pokemon ranch would also be a companion title. And moves only obtainable in XD have been used to win official tournaments.

Legends changing far more but not being spin offs really hurt argument for the 3d battle simulators being spinoffs
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>>58272150
>no actually my pokemon ranch isn't a spin off!
"D" to the "i" to the "s" to the fucking "carded"
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>>58272070
calem being 6 heads tall isn't because of art style. xy and oras are far more similar than they are different in art styles. In XY calem is taller than the characters that have similar proportions to brendan and may in oras.
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>>58272161
it literally serves no purpose other than being a companion app for core games. that's like saying home is a spin off. it's not even a game it's a tool
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>>58272169
And yet it's not a spinoff right? Because you can get pokemon there and send them to RS, or vice versa!
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>>58272651
e companion app is seperate from a spinoff. the jirachi gift disc isn't a spinoff either
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Apparently not enough though
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shorter
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JohCHADs really won this thread, huh?
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>>58267847
Imagine what deepshit??? have sex
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>>58275289
Huh >>58267964
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>>58275387
>>58267964
>Johto got an expansion in pocket
>not a single human character got featured in a paid cosmetics pack
>Dena prefer to put an OC than the rest of the johto bitches
holy kek, literal humillation ritual
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>>58275423
genuinely what the fuck are you talking about
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>>58276373
probably a bot
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>>58267964
>Skyla mogged by Lana
The power of cute and funny.
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>>58275387
Yep, that’s the anon who got utterly BTFO’d by JohCHADs.
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>>58266546
Tulip is using heels
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>>58276694
take them away and she goes from second tallest to second tallest.
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>>58276694
Like a good STACY
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>>58271000
Wicke doesn't have a personality so they subject porn traits onto Lusamine. Though a lot of Lusa/Lanamom art tends to make Lana the titcow even though she's ALSO slender. I think that goes to show how fundamental of a failure Wicke was as a character
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>>58277796
I saw some fatfags trying to push her when SM first released but surprise surprise most people don't like fat cows
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>>58277966
Melony is popular and she's about as big. Wicke not doing shit is her biggest issue.
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>>58277971
Melony is typically drawn as more thicc than fat. Wicke is just fat
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>>58278001
Nah
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>>58277796
Pokemon fans have the memory of a goldfish, and they constantly need reminders that the characters exist

Using the current gen as an example, Briar has huge tits, but she barely has any art because she’s irrelevant story-wise and barely appears
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>>58278073
It's just a self fulfilling loop of artists only drawing whose popular > unpopular characters never get art > unpopular characters never get the chance to become more popular > they never receive more art. Because as much as artists like to pretend they draw for a passion, they just want the views and patreon



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