>Invalidates Psychic-type>Nerfs Bug-type even more>Becomes more overpowered than Dragon ever wasWhat an awful addition this was in hindsight.
>>58276463WrongWrongWrong
>>58276463>>Invalidates Psychic-typeStopped reading there. You don't play the game.
The good guys losthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM3eNtYq3bM
>>58276477Steel types VVON though?
>>58276463Only the second one is true.
>>58276463No issue if you just play pre slop games
>>58276474Psychic has nothing going for it anymore except mediocre SE damage to Poison, and Psychic Terrain doesn't change that fact.
>>58276463Dragon was never overpowered in the first place, overpowered mons just tended to be Dragon (the fact that Dragons continued to dominate after Fairy is evidence of this). GF is retarded though so they threw a nuke at the messenger and ended up creating an actually overpowered type while Dragons persisted with their powercreep.
>>58276500>Psychic Terrain doesn't change that fact because it forces me to remember mechanics other than the type chart
>>58276548>Having free 1.5x damage against virtually the entire game was never overpowered in the first place,Yes it was.
>>58276558Notice how the most notorious PT user is part Fairy?
>>58276561It wasn't a problem until they went full retard with shit like the Outrage buff and Draco Meteor, on top of Dragon Dance existing.
>>58276566Indeedee is part Fairy?
>>58276561All the mons you're thinking of were pseudos and legendaries btw.
>>58276483If you're a campaignshitter, maybe.Volcarona is still doing just fine despite Fairy's existence.
>>58276548I dunno, Dragon WAS pretty OP on paper too, 4 common resistances at the cost of 1 Weakness, that WAS pretty exploitable because ICE BEAM FOR EVERYONE, and less stab moves (Practically 0 in Gen1 due Set-Damage).It was practically (not factually) designed to make Dragonite a Final Boss and fuck with the starters.
>>58276579woah, only pseudos and legendaries are able to get STAB? I didn't know that. Teach me more, campaignshitter-sensei.
>>58276575>Indeedee Nevermind, you're just retarded kek.
>>58276561this desuDruddigon and Altaria were a bit much
>>58276584How do I get Tapu Lele in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet? Is there some secret sect of VGC I don't know about where Tapu Lele specifically has been smuggled into the current metagame despite being completely unobtainable in Scarlet and Violet?
>>58276583Name a Dragon in Gen 4+5 when Dragon was at its peak that didn't have some of the best stat spreads in the entire game.
>>58276593This but unironically.
>>58276596Name a Fairy in Gen 6+ when Fairy was at its peak that didn't have some of the best stat spreads in the entire game.
>>58276575>Indeedee
>>58276602Parroting is an admission of defeat.
>>58276602Why are you deflecting? Answer the question, campaignshitter-sensei.
>>58276606Thank you for admitting defeat.
>>58276602Notice how almost every single mon, including shitmons, that retroactively got the Fairy-type benefitted from it? Can't say the same for Dragon.
>>58276611consult the image
>>58276596Altaria, Druddigon, Flygon.>>58276602Wigglytuff, Mr. Mime, Granbull, Carbink, Dedenne, Aromatisse, Slurpuff.Sounds like Fairy kind of sucked ass on launch and was being hard carried by a few exceptional specimens, whereas Dragon used to be an obscenely strong line with only a few weak links.
>>58276617yeah because no fucking old Pokemon retroactively got dragon
>>58276622>Altaria, Druddigon, Flygon.2/3 of these were below UU
>>58276629Ahem>fanfic meta
>>58276633No one cares about VGC.
>>58276636Cope.
>>58276636Is that why there's people who compete religiously in PVP, and even more so at the IRL events?Is that why Champions, a VGC-oriented PVP game and the new central hub of VGC, exists?
>>58276621consult the image
>>58276477This video radicalized me into hating fairysissies. TFD.
>>58276584>>58276604Indeedee has had over double the usage of Lele in all of the actual metas they’ve both been available for. Follow Me and Expanding Force are a hell of a drug. >>58276580Volcarona is good in spite of its typing, not because of it. You couldn’t even name a second bug type lmao.
>>58276654parroting is an admission of defeat
>>58277283thank you for admitting defeat
>>58276652It's bait probably but the funnier part is that so many smogonfags are like, LEGITIMATELY still convinced that VGC is a joke as if we're still 2013 or somethingNow VGC trades places with OU for most played format on Showdown at the worst times and soars above it at its peaks, yet I still see people claim shit like how Champions is actually going to make Singles bigger which like at that point it doesnt matter if its supposed to be bait, that's essentially pissing your pants in public and pretending its a win>>58277031It was nearly 50 times in Series 12 lol, and its not just Follow Me and Expanding Force either, its also Helping Hand AND Trick Room AND Fake Out since those kinda matter like a lot. Even if we did get Lele back it still never got Expanding Force and can't support the real PsySpammers like Armarouge, Farigiraf, Calyrex, Lunala, or just itself because Indeedee-M exists and it doesn't matter if you have a bigger number on your Special Attack stat if you aren't allowed to use abuse the number one thing keeping Psychic relevant
>>58277732consult the image >>58276621you're going to parrot again because you don't have a response to this
>>58277941consult the image >>58276654you're going to parrot again because you don't have a response to this
>>58277941Parroting is an admission of defeat.>>58277947Parroting is an admission of defeat.
>>58278018Admission is a defeat of parroting.
Personally I'd make Grass & Bug resist it with the idea that fairies need nature to persist, that and a removal of the Bug resistance because Bug is the LAST type that needs to one more type that resists it.It will still be broken as shit but at least Ferrothorn and Forretress and Scizor or whatever has a good more use as a check to their antics.
>>58276500*expanding forces your path*
>>58276548dragon was always the overpowered type zoomie
>hindsightWe knew this from the moment it was announced.
>>58276548Dragon was always meant to be a “final boss” kind of typing, and the lore around the first introduced dragons kind of emphasized that. The only reason they were balanced was because pretty much every non-restricted Dragon was a physical attacker with non-physical STAB alongside moves with middling power. Then gen 4 came around and fucked it all up.
>"Let's give a high coverage type a 120 BP/100 accuracy move and a 140 BP/90 accuracy move">"What could possibly go wrong?"Imagine if Gengar had a STAB draco in gen 4-5. Not even pursuit Tyranitat would keep it off the banlist.
Phys/spec split was a mistake. it ruined sneasel
Ah yes, psychic is invalidated by fairy cause it all it was is a fighting SEer.I get people think its gen 1 identity is "completely gone" but it really wasn't? Its still basically baby dragon. Its a stab very few types actually resist.Its issue has been its defensive identity and the fact dark is insanely strong. Its weak to a lot of insanely strong types. Types that actually tend to be backed up by stab.You can outright remove fairies fighting effectiveness, and i can practically guarantee you psychic is basically 100% in the same place.
>>58278315Ghost has been getting pretty damn annoying lately too. The only thing holding it back is that the best that most things get is Shadow Ball, but when they get anything stronger it's god damn horrifying, especially since Dark and Normal are nowhere near as good defensively as Steel is.
>>58278544rage fist is actually ludicrous
>>58276584duh he's retarded, don't respond to yawnfag
>>58278624>thinks indeedee is fairy type>calls others retardslmao
>>58278625shut up, yawnfag