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>>58280599
They should have made Kanto smaller in the final game so they could fit everything Johto was supposed to offer
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>>58280599
That's just Japan, Johto would only be around the "Old" and "Mt. Fuji" area >>58280610
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>>58280599
Yeah, instead of being a good region, they instead turned Johto into a good region.
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>>58280610
Kanto being represented by a single town was a much better choice.
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>All of Japan as one game
They should combine Gen 1-4 into the legendary "All Regions" game.
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>>58280599
Uhhhh did you just criticise Johto?? don't you know Johoto was MEANT to be shitty??
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>>58280629
quick reminder that no one says this unironically
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>>58280629
Why does this sound very unironic?
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>>58280629
>>58280636
least obvious samefag
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>>58280623
No, Kanto being a single city is ridiculous, and as we've seen, the (almost) 1:1 Kanto from the final game ended up being lackluster. I think a middle ground would have been for the best.
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>>58280632
>>58280640
least obvious samefag
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>>58280660
its not samefagging if im not pretending to be two different people, retard
its just posting multiple times
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>>58280629
based also gen 5 is worse
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>>58280642
I liked the Pokemon Brown approach where you can visit a small part of another region but the rest is blocked off due to events out of your control. But then again we've seen hacks add fully fleshed out versions of Johto and Kanto with no issue, so maybe it was just a time problem that G/S turned out how they did.
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>>58280632
>>58280640
>>58280662
least obvious samefag
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>>58280667
>But then again we've seen hacks add fully fleshed out versions of Johto and Kanto with no issue
My favorite romhack, Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver
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>>58280629
>>58280636
>>58280660
>>58280666
>>58280672
least obvious samefag
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>>58280629
>>58280632
>>58280636
>>58280640
>>58280660
>>58280662
>>58280666
>>58280672
>>58280678
All me btw
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>>58280689
i buy it
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Oh, no! The Rattata are posting in our threads again! Those damn bastards always invade our Routes. Sentretbros, we need to come together and defend Johto!
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>>58280699
SIR YES SIR
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>>58280614
fake and gay
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>>58280667
>so maybe it was just a time problem that G/S turned out how they did
It wasn't just a "time problem", they tried to fit two whole regions in a single GB cartridge, so of course some locations and content had to be sacrificed. Can't say it was 100% worth it, unfortunately
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>>58280816
I can
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>>58280610
As legend tells it the game was complete until Iwata walked in and suggested they throw Kanto in there for the hell of it but when GF informed him such a feat wasn't possible he simply pushed his glasses up to his face and said "Watch this"

So Johto was as is from the start
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>>58280642
>the (almost) 1:1 Kanto from the final game ended up being lackluster
Fufufufu...
I'm sorry, anon, but I believe you are mistaken. As you should know, gen 2 has TWO (2) regions, which automatically makes it the best gen of all time
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>>58280921
The legends were wrong because the leaks showed the compression algorithm Iwata wrote was for loading speed, not storage size
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>>58280673
>>58280816
There exists multiple Crystal hacks which add back the missing content from Kanto and expand Johto.
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What are good ways to expand Johto that haven't been done in hgss and romhacks yet?
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>>58280599
Unpopular(?) opinion, but Kanto should've just not been included in any form. All the focus should've been on Johto, and building up the region and its lore. Kanto Pokemon could've still been included (just more rare, with maybe a postgame focus where you travel to a part of Johto or some islands where Kanto Pokemon are more common), but had the time and resources that went into putting Kanto in the game gone to fleshing out Johto's routes, adding more towns, and characters, maybe the end result would've been something even better than what we got.
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>>58280997
Obvious one is just HGSS 2 and add some more parts of Chubu (like Nagoya) in the west. Maybe you could set it around the time of XY after the Fairy type has been discovered. Megas would be kinda lame though because of how overplayed they are.
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>>58282100
Super Gold 97 and GS Reforged do a pretty good job at what could have been (there's even a postgame where, as it happens, you travel to some islands), though since they both use the Spaceworld beta as a base, there's still Kanto in the form of a city and Kantomons are still pretty much everywhere.
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>>58282693
I've played Reforged and it's really good. Need to finish it as I'm in the postgame now. Would definitely recommend.
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>>58280614
Nobody ever mentions breeding in Ruby and Sapphire, but it was a big step down simply by the removal of Ditto. You couldn't breed the version-exclusive Solrock or Lunatone, or the post-game Beldum line. Pokémon that are usually male like the Hoenn starters also can't produce eggs of their first form unless you lucked out with getting a female starter, so most of the time you and your friends had no way of giving each other the earlier forms.
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>>58280629
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>>58283736
>replying with the same exact fucking thing but in image form
actual bot post
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>>58282693
I am so curious to know though what existed before the Spaceworld '97 beta. It's crazy to think how much was scrapped/changed and how it would've stacked up against the G/S we got.



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