Why do so many pokemon fans hate Palword when it’s practically everything we’ve been asking for for decades? Clean graphics, fast gameplay, can ride our own mons, not buggy, detailed world, etc
>>58285896Palworld is slop, but 90% of the hate is from Nintendo adults who think GameFreak can do no wrong.
>>58285896It's called brand loyalty weaponized by corpos.
>>58285896Pokemon is a cult.
>>58285896Pokemon fans don't want a monster catching game with clean graphics, fast gameplay, can ride their own mons, not buggy, detailed world, etc.They specifically want a POKEMON game with all of those things, and all of those things are secondary to wanting a Pokemon game.Palworld mons aren't Pokemon, but new and strange creatures, which Pokemon fans don't want anything to do with because the (scientifically proven) Pokemon region in their brain can't handle monsters from a different franchise.
>>58285896>Unreal stock asset slopPalworld is dogshit for redditors
>>58286058Redditors like Pokemon and Nintendo more thougheverbeit
Palworld fans (they're all Unovatards, they all make sure to say Palword is only better than Gen 6+ pokemon) keep insisting Palworld is the greatest game ever created but all the gameplay looks boring with cluttered UIs and shitty resource gathering. If I want something like that I'd just play Kenshi or Rimworld.
>>58285896Because it reminds them of what the franchise could be, but isn't. So they seethe in jealousy.
>>58286061Palworldfans are kanto/early genfags though.
>>58286050>Palworld mons aren't PokemonThey kind of are though, most of them are pretty blatantly ripped off, even from fakemon in one case (Arsox)Although admittedly I actually like Warsect, Orserk, and Anubis more than Aggron, Garchomp and Lucario respectively, and I already really liked Aggron and Garchomp
>>58286086They aren't. Its all DSfags that are palcucks. Palworld only gained attention due to 3d pokemon discourse.
>>58285896Pokemon is better than fraudster hunter and from shartware too not just palshit
But I like Digimon and SMT which are both pokemon-like games. Palworld and Temtem are like actual sludge games with no value though
Why are palfags so obnoxious? Can't even discuss their own game without seething over pokemon existing.
>>58286105If you like trash like Xros Wars and fujo/gooner ps2 era of SMT, you may as well be the typical palgroidie.
>>58286058>stock asset slopEnough about the X/Y Flying Charizard animation.
>>58285912Fpbp>captcha: vpyhx
>>58285896>Why Pokechads hate a cheap copy of a superior productit's a mystery
>>58286149that yellow metacritic score says otherwise.
>>58286061>>58286086>>58286092You guys are just describing internet xillennials that made all those edgy pop culture parodies right?
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>>58286149Paljeets lostPokechads won
TOTAL POKEMON SUPREMACY!
I enjoyed Palworld a lot more than most modern Pokemon titles but that says more about the state of Pokemon at the moment than anythingPalworld is a fun concept that'd be a lot cooler if they had a bit more originality instead of just mishmashing mechanics and designs from other gamesThey kinda did just combine things from other games without really transforming on them at all, I think it's the most evident with the monster designs themselves being blatantly plagiarized off from various Pokemon and the lockpicking mechanic taken straight from SkyrimAnd yes, it's true that doing this did make a pretty fun game all things considered, but even as someone who liked the game I can acknowledge that it definitely has a slop factorFor what it's worth, the Sakurajima and Feybreak pals are a lot more unique and original for the most part, some of them are really coolUpcoming Ultrakill collab kinda killed my interest though, I don't like that game
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>>58286160>>58286162I too, love samefagging
hate the direction of pokemon, also hate palworld because its for the irony poisoned modern audiences.
>>58286164>t.
>be seething(faggot) pokehater>too poor for official hardware>too broke for a PC>cope with bootleg "pokemon but better" games>devs of your favorite bootlegs go bankrupt anyway>cope and seethe on /vp/ 24/7 like it’s a job>"b-b-but le hecking bad graphics and le opinions of other pokemon nu-fans should matter!">game sells 20 million anyway and Pokechads get newmons and newpokegirls>repeat this for the rest of your life until you have a stroke>end up in wheelchair posting on /vp/ through text-to-speechIt must be depressing to live like that anyway, booting up Pokemon XY for my ninth run while waiting for A-Z.
>>58286089I think some Palmons are fine and others are shit, and I think of all the Pokemon clones, Palworld comes the closest. To be honest, some of them even feel more like Pokemon than Pokemon.But regardless of how they feel or what they look like, they are not Pokemon, and as such, are not registered in the mental Pokedex that every Pokemon fan has.
>>58286263You need to buy high-quality PC system or console to play palworld btw. Palfags are more finically successful than Pokefags automatically.
I think Palworld proves how hungry people are for an actual Pokémon competitor, im waiting for a high budget one from an actual dev studio..
If people want a thing, they will have that thing, even if they have to take it by force.
>>58286322>how hungry people are for an actual Pokémon competitorif people were hungry for an actual Pokemon competitor, series like Nexomon, Dragon Quest Monsters and Cassette Beasts would be more popular.the real reason palworld got big is because its a multiplayer open-world "number go up" game with viral marketing, the ironic humor means that even barney syndrome contrarians can like the game.if it actually copied the gameplay of pokemon, nobody would have really cared as much. even if they did it well, it would have remained niche like all the other pokemon clones.
I askes for an third person shooting game?
>>58285896Palworld is an incredibly generic mine and craft sludge, once you played one of those games you played them allI want an actual pokémon competitor, not an asset flip with monsters taped on it
>>58286493> series like Nexomon, Dragon Quest Monsters and Cassette Beasts would be more popularexcept those games are garbage and just copy the exact same mistakes as pokemon
>>58285896>defending Capcucks and FROMsloppers, groups with even lower standards than Pokemon fanslmao
>>58285896Because it is exceedingly derivative.I never asked for what Palworld provides. Its just Ark Survival Evolved with cutesy fantasy monsters. Sorry, I played enough open world crafting slop, there's been nothing "innovative" about that since 2011. It's a derivative game made by a company known for derivative games.Isn't it weird how the stamina system and hang glider are very similar to BotW? Isn't it weird how some of the animations, like swinging a pickaxe or the OTS shooting, are very similar to Fortnite? Isn't it weird how the monster designs look as if they took two existing Pokemon and merged them? What exactly is new or interesting about this shit in any way?Don't misrepresent what I'm saying either, I hate what Pokemon is right now. Generations 6 through 9 games have been a decade-long degeneration from mediocrity to garbage. There's no reasons to take sides between the two franchises, BOTH ARE SHIT. Have some fucking standards for fuck's sake.And Palworld threads, by definition, don't belong on this board. Go away. >>58286529Nexomon is awful but don't be making things up about Cassette Beasts. What does the "exact same mistakes" even mean?
>>58285896Pokemon consoomers are some of the lowest iq rabble in existence which explains how the worst games are also the best selling.
>>58285896Because the game was boring, it is a survival-crafting game disguised as a Pokemon clone.Source: I played it for 30 hours.
>>58287190>>58287183what about their improvement what would you want them to do to deviate from being just a ark copy how would make the building or gameplay feel different >>58287183Cassette beast is literal boring its just fusion Pokemon x yugioh it has charming ui and map details, but the game itself is meh plus half of the designs seem all over the place not really enjoyable besides just a select few
>>58286136I only like the SNES era of SMT, what does that make me?
>>58285896As much as I want GF to wake up and get some competition, a "gather these resources so you can craft the thing that lets you gather these resources so you can craft the thing that lets you gather these resources, and while you're at it build an ugly ass base" kind of game is not what I've been asking for decades
What if Pokemon rips off Palworld instead? Build your own secret bases that function as gyms/dungeons like Mario MakerOr maybe like a Tower Defense? Build a base and place your Pokemon as turrets and patrols and other players have to plan their approach to clear your base
>>58287327I agree but i wonder what they can do to make bases more appealing or have charm and make it more satisfying to makes a base
>>58285896It's a minecraft-esque survival game with Pokemon-based elements. It's really not what Pokemon itself is about. What makes it controversial is that Palworldfags insist that's what Pokemon SHOULD be about. I will say that Gamefreak missed an opportunity to create a shitty spin off title with a massive dexcut, which probably would have appeased them
>>58287369nta but i see palworld as expansion to the monster tamer genre because indie games usually just do the same 2d turn based slop never really taking any steps to be unique besides [pokemon but this] mentality and im not even going palworld did the same thing but strayed away from the turn based genre which makes it stand out in the monster tamer market but in all i seriousness i wished it played like spectrobes
>>58286493The thing is, I don't want a pokemon clone. I don't want anything that bases its gameplay on the pokemon formula. Pokemon has already cloned itself 9 times. I want pokemon to be more than it is or at least do something new, which is why I would then turn to look for a competitor.I enjoy pixelmon/cobblemon because they scratch something pokemon does not (maybe Pokopia will at least). That same itch is scratched by Palworld. I enjoy Monster Rancher because it's just another game in the monster raising genre and has little to nothing to do with pokemon. Hell I enjoy the chao garden because it's a weird ass raising feature tacked on to a platforming game with racing/fighting minigames.No one wants CLONES they want something pokemon doesn't offer
>>58285896The problem with Pokemon clones is they don't understand why some of us still stick around despite the ever-decreasing quality of the franchise. They don't know what they must do to get us to jump ship.The fact that none of the clones have anything close to what those of us looking for shows the idea of appealing to us hadn't even crossed their mind. They don't understand that fanart that can market their game for them and how to inspire such fanart to be made.>but what about lovanderI'm not talking about furries.
>>58286064Palworld is a bootleg taking advantage of the fame of the original product, but Digimon on the other hand, damn I wish TPC would put half the love into their games.
>>58285896nintendo is a cult of losers who will die without having childrenand they are also being replaced by indians and africans while they defend their childhood nostalgia slop like the rabid faggots they are
>>58288029>>58287806I've been asking this a lot but i haven't gotten an answer but what would you like to see palworld do to make their game less like ark and more its own game and what other type of genres would you like to see new monster tamers make
>>58288160Palworld's gameplay isn't my thing but I want to see more monster tamers lean into the waifumon and monster fucker side. Doesn't have to be a porn game, just a plot or dating sim style system where you bond closer with your mons with relationship stories.Or a Pokemon clone where it's the same gameplay loop as Pokemon but you catch girls (or very girl-like creatures) and train/battle/wife them. Show off your team of girls in online PVP, theming your team to let other players know what your fetish is. It'd probably rustle a lot of jimmies in the west for objectifying females and turning them into commodities to kidnap in our legally distinct Pokeballs, but having a huge fanart scene in Japan is just about the only feasible way for a clone to gain cultural relevance online since it's free marketing.
>>58288160I don't have a problem with Palworld being a flavor of Ark, so no changes there. Like I said in my post, I already enjoyed minecraft with pokemon hamfisted into it, and for that matter I liked pokemon wilds with that was new (the survival fangame with GSC graphics not the fighting game). I primarily like pokemon for the slow life stuff, the environments, living with pokemon. That's what those games offer. Rather than leaving your pokemon to sit around in the party/PC waiting to be used in battle, you could use them as mounts, around the base. Adds life to them, gives them purpose, helps endear you to them. In fact I only started liking flygon because I had one as my flying mount in pixelmon way back before they got that C&D.If you want to ask what else I'd like to see as a monster catcher, then something along the lines of the above is a direction. For example, I've wanted a Pokemon Rune Factory spinoff since RF already has some monster taming elements. You tame monsters/bosses, level them, care for them, can feed them items to raise their stats (can give them 100% crit rate lmao), and you can have them battle with you or work on your farm. It's literally right there.Otherwise "monster raising" is pretty much just a singular mechanic and could probably be implemented in many different genres. Pokemon spinoffs already attempt this, such as Conquest. Could see it working for dungeon crawlers (like I saw there was a Pokemon Etrian Odyssey fangame, SMT Strange Journey is also technically this though the demons are too expendable for my taste), side scrollers (e.g. catching enemies to be able to swap them in for different attacks/abilities), business management (e.g. shop keeping with monster employees, running a daycare)Just something. Anything but a fucking pokemon clone good lord. Even played some chinky monster catcher RPG just because it has some nice designs and the combat is autobattle instead. Didn't finish it though
>>58285896>souls like slop get constantly shat on>MH(read phantasy star) like get torn to shred by mainline MHfags>Pokemonfags are supposed to get mad over shitty survival slop with monster collecting but not actual monster collecting rpgsNah
>everything we’ve been asking forNonsensical schizophrenic ramblings
>>58286304ESL
>>58285896>when it’s practically everything we’ve been asking for for decades?You've made a major mistake here, because they've been asking for a Pokemon game that's like that.
>>58287183Gamefreak are right to make low quality open world kusoge, because judging by Gen 9 and Palworld both being massive successes, it seems like that's all what people want out of the franchise.literally any other creature collector game could have made it big, but the cynically made cash grab asset-flip parody is what audiences chose to be Pokemon's biggest competitor.
>>58288722sad but true as long as normies believe open world is the future of gaming
>>58285896For me it's the lack of loli and shota trainersIn fact I never see anyone posting about the trainers
>>58288759This. What made Pokemon work and set it apart from other JRPGs was that it was a child's adventure in a modern world similar to our own. By removing these elements in their effort to separate themselves from Pokemon, they also end up removing any reason for people to move away from Pokemon. Why would Pokemon fans switch to the clones when the clones lack the very thing that made Pokemon work beyond the basic gameplay of catching monsters?It's why Yokai Watch was the closest thing to an actual threat to Pokemon that made Game Freak shit themselves in fear. It was the only one that had the core essence of Pokemon.
>it’s practically everything we’ve been asking for for decadesnever asked for guns
>>58285896You forgot that sleeping in bed with your pals has a 1% chance to produce an egg, which is the most based thing they did.
>>58288871okay now i gotta try this shit out wtf
>>58288896ANON DONT ITS PSYOP TO MAKE YOU BUY PALWORD DONT DO IT ANOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
>>58285896I've got friends who are huge pokefags, one of them have like 10 pokemon plushies in their car. They fuckin love palworld, but they never bring up the pokemon games themselves unless I bring it up. The ones that seethe are a minority.I'm sure there are pokemon fans that love interactive, open-world games with action-based gameplay along with turn-based, but the thing is turn based combat with canned animations is much easier to program well than actual interactive NPCs that can go around light torches and farm for you, be petted, and mounted.Palworld has like 50 mounts and and pals can do like 20 different tasks on your base outside combat. There are barely any triple A devs that put that much effort, much less indie devs. You can make turn based combat in fucking RPG, but programming npcs that actually do stuff outside of that is hard as fuck probably.
>>58289396>*rpgmaker
>>58289396>They fuckin love palworld, but they never bring up the pokemon games themselves unless I bring it up.makes sense, most pokemon fans are just fans of the merch and only play the games as an extension of this. most don't actually like Pokemon as a "game", hence why gamefreak makes the main game piss easy, as any actual friction would filter these people.they are stubbornly sticking to the JRPG format because change is a massive risk and could kill their golden goose, even though better gameplay formulas for casual immersive game worlds exist now, like a multiplayer open world survival game.
>>58289396same guy here >>58288160but true this is another reason of why kind of want to defend them cause despite being called Chink by brainrotted zoomers (despite them being born in japan) i don't really like that they make heavily inspiration pokemon designs but most of their other pals show they can make original designs but the animations of your pals doing chores or chilling or even swimming and all the actual animated attack moves makes the game feel more lively it shows me that they actually put effort into it meanwhile I'm not really understanding why people call them chink when those types of people don't even try to drop that much money or time on that they focus on microtransactions and ways to make the game grindy where you have to buy stuff also i do agree >>58288820 but you can't really get this anymore since tv and cable died meaning you can't really advertise Whatever genre was anime kid shows were called you get the feeling you're fighting alongside you Pokémon and just like beyblade and they're show is one of the reasons it also sold as well
>>58285896If I wanted to play a survival shooter, I would
>>58285896???? Palworld is just Pokémon. The game is clearly mostly an asset flip outside of the Pals which sure, look nice and have good animations, but that's about it. It's an Early Access industry plant designed to sell and be a competitor to Pokémon, and it suffers from the exact same issues Pokémon does (and by turning it into a franchise of incremental games, they're going doing the same TPCi path as well).If you want to support good Pokémon alternatives, go ahead. Support Digimon, support Casette Beats, support TemTem or hell make your own. Don't support slop, do better.
>>58285896the meme dosen’t work now that mh wilds exist
>>58289519i dont believe the asset flip part but why support 2 of the worst clones of pokemon they stink and have nothing to make them stand out buts whats the problem with supporting palworld its not like those mobile microtransaction games it has it flaws but it's definitely not no industry plant considering they aren't being activily advertised by any corps also they did say they taking the game out of EA in a year
>>58285896>Pokemon killerThat’s itWhy would you call it that knowing there are people who still like this slop.Now it’s just funny. Bunch of clones swinging at the king.
>>58289519>Palworld (Ark clone) is just Pokémon>Support [indie pokemon clones]I'm also getting the new Digimon game but what did anon mean by this
>>58288896Google tells me it's misinformation that was a "joke" patch note but like... I've seen what the official account tweets when it randomly shows up in my timeline. Still, there are mods out there to let you breed humans with pals.
>>58287183>What does the "exact same mistakes" even mean?nta but some of the biggest copied msitakes i see from fangames include:>specifics of the stat system are hidden from the player, because "well it's like EVs and IVs and natures", only problem is that giving the player better control over their "build" so to speak would lead to more player choice/expression that could be rewarded (e.g. game can be balanced around the player being smart enough to come up with good synergies between stats/moveset/etc rather than having to kneecap it because of random variance)>exact same single item slot, single ability slot, only four moves, and singles format, meaning the core gameplay retains more or less the same amount of depth without trying to add new layers. there's no expansion on the game system>same general town-route-town format, this is a more minor complaint but it really does make things feel sameyi haven't played every pokemon-like game so i can't say all of them follow all these flaws but these are the flaws i tend to see copied, and i have problems with them in pokemon as well
