Why was the early anime so much more based than later seasons?
it was only for japan but burgers ruined it
>>58293832Gamefreak having minimal involvement. It's funny how almost everyone can make Pokemon better than Shitfreak can. You can see it with spin-offs!
>>58293832because it was an actual coming of age story
>>58293832Because its KANTOOOOOOOO
>>58294259Until they decided to stop making him age.
>>58293832The tranime peaked in DP though
>>58293832The franchise hadn't yet been established in full to be a global phenomenon that needs to adhere to globalized standards, and the anime originally had an end point, so its characters were allowed to be actual characters instead of perpetually static and inoffensive dipshits who need to exist indefinitely for the sake of the glorified commercial.
>>58293832Ash knew what data was
>>58293832Thats just an animation error
>>58293832Shudo's mental illnesses
>>58293832Why are you faggots breaking out of your containment?Stay in your echo chamber:>>58294147>>58294147
>>58295286Paul was a tryhard chud. Gary was more interesting as a character>>58295588what's the story with the mental illness?>>58295599won't get as many replies
>>58293846Gamefreak is allergic to risk. That's why everything they do is milquetoast watered down shit
>>58295286>Grrrrrr I am always angry and am STRONG because u have angry eyes and only STRONG Pokemon that are STRONG like me are worth a shitWhat a worthless annoying character, so happy Ash beat this faggot into the ground with Edgy Berserker SSJ ape
>>58293832it was the late 90's. things were more based in general.
>>58293832Because original anime staff were talented and wanted to make a good anime that can draw audiences. Current anime staff doesn't care because Pokémon is highest grossing IP and they only want to use it for their own wish fulfillment fantasy on their own anime exclusive characters.
>>58293845I blame Japs' greediness for trying too hard to please burgers to the point they even make products that burgers never asked for
>>58296218As a matter of fact the original anime director kept working for the tv series till the end of Satoshi's adventures. Then they picked a different director for the new DEI-pandering tv series Pokemon Horizons. Which explains why Pokemon Horizons is so crappy.
>>58293832damn even that girl is way taller than them
>>58296374Now he is working on a slime girl anime which seems to be more well received than pokemon Horizons so I guess he technically won.
Maybe because the longer people watched, the more clear it was that Ash was going to make no effort in catching 'em all nor were our waifus going to cater to our fetishes. The last episode I willfully watched all the way through was explorers of the heroes ruin. I mean, I'm glad Iris got mummified and otn gagged instead of someone uglier like May, Dawn, or Serena, but it was clear to me that it was going to be all downhill from there.
>>58293832Obama is part of the gym.
>>58293832Early-installment weirdness and the general freshness of the idea. People wanted to see Ash succeed and do stuff. It became less of a draw after it was clear that wouldn’t happen. At least, not until 20+ years down the line.
>>58297846Why couldn't they just let him succeed and then create a new protagonist? Ash wasn't anything special when it came to his design or personality. I wish they recreated the show in every region but with a new protagonist imitating the games.
>>58295286DP and XY were more dramatic and probably tighter written shows both plot and character wise, but OS had an unique grittiness to it. Like the world actually felt used, worn and dangerous, full of shady fugures and even the Pokemon were more actively hostile. From Johto onwards it's too sanitized, almost like a theme park with rarely any meaningful danger.
>>58293832Why does the room look like it has so much atmosphere (if that makes sense)?
>>58298398>Ash wasn't anything special when it came to his design or personalityYet neither Alain , Goh , Liko and Roy couldn't replace him, even Pokespe protagonist doesn't seem as compelling as him.>I wish they rebuilt the show in every region but with a new protagonist imitating the gamesYou just want Pokémon to be Yu-Gi-Oh and Digimon.
>>58299409>You just want Pokémon to be Yu-Gi-Oh and Digimon.Do the games keep the same protagonist? Like I said, I'd want it like the games. If Ash is starting over every region without growing older then it'd make more sense to just have him win in the end and start with someone new the next region.That or just have Ash age a little as time goes like a normal shonen. Maybe he doesn't win the pokemon league at 10, but at 18. Maybe he has a kid that we end up focusing on while he's a gym leader or something. There's so many ways they could improve the show. I guess they don't because they've already solidified the biggest brand of all time and don't want to change anything if they don't need to.
>>58299409>Yet neither Alain , Goh , Liko and Roy couldn't replace himHe was in the anime for 20 years. Less people would’ve cared if he got booted 4-5 years into the series life.
>>58293832It should have ended at orange islands
>>58296218>>58293832>>58293846The franchise didn’t have any established rules early on so they got away with a lot more.
>>58298398>Why couldn't they just let him succeed and then create a new protagonist?Because if Ash goes, Pikachu goes. And getting rid of Pikachu seemed like a completely moronic move in terms of brand power, given how overwhelmingly powerful of a mascot it was.And if anyone bothered to ask "okay, so why don't we give the new protagonist a Pikachu, too?" someone else would counter-ask "at that point, why not just keep using Ash so we don't have to design a new character and find a new voice actor?" and that'd be all she wrote. Every single time until they were basically FORCED to wrap up Ash's journey by virtue of making him the world's strongest trainer.
>>58299803>He was in the anime for 20 yearsSo does Goku, Nobita, shinchan, etc etc. He was in the anime because he was popular enough to stay that long. Look what happened to Boruto after they replaced Naruto with his son .
>>58300382>Whataboutism: Not Pokemon editionhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vp/search/text/Goku%20nobita/>Broken record babblingOpinion discarded, get a job Fagmon.
>>58299694>Do the games keep the same protagonist?The game is a wish-fulfillment fantasy where players receive everything, even if it's unfair to NPCs. Kieran's arc highlights this unfairness, as he must submit to game rules instead of defying them. If you want the anime to mimic the game, you're admitting you want a self-inserted fanfic.An anime differs from a game because you can't control the protagonist or story; you only watch. Thus, the protagonist must be compelling and relatable. Shudo made Ash distinct from Red and other game protagonists. In Anipoke, the world doesn't revolve around Ash; he isn't guaranteed to win, get everything, or succeed always. He can fail, be outshined by side characters, and must earn success through merit, like in the real world, making him more likable than game protagonists.Imagine a Digimon Wonderswan game adaptation where Ryu defeats every villain alone, while the eight beloved Digidestined are sidelined and become damsels in distress for him to rescue.
>>58296374Pokemon is dei pandering now that's why ash was replaced and you are getting more brown characters both anime and games
Pokemon is nothing without ash and that's why the anime is fucking dead lmao floprizons the biggest flop anime ever created
lol literal grownups watching cartoons for little kids
>>58293832The writers cared less about being accurate to the games and cared more about what would be entertaining. When the Pokemon anime became a long runner anime after season 1, the anime had to become extremely formulated. It's a lot harder to come up with fun and zany episodes under a tight schedule.
>>58300880As opposed to playing video games for little kids?
>>58295799>Gary was more interesting as a characterNah, there was no euphoria in Ash beating Gary like there was with Paul with his own ex-mon.
>>58300003I guess you nailed it. It's just a shame that this conclusion means the show would be guaranteed to turn to shit. Maybe they could have let Ash age a bit after every region like a timeskip but bring in a kid character to be relatable for younger audiences, like Max (except better)
The early anime seemed fairly self aware and adverse to falling into typical patterns of kids anime. It didn't take long for things to normalize though.
>>58300852Do you think they would reboot the series with Ash again? >>58300880picrel>>58301036yeah, but then that kills the soul of the show and most won't watch anymore. Current episodes probably get 10% of the OS' viewers. They killed the games in the same way.
>>58298398Because then they can't shill Pikachu.
