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if this is real, how will this effect VGC doubles? the archived thread was just talk about singles

Reminder that all these megas will be usable in 2026 for VGC champions.

https://pokepast.es/d81ca7b3dab0549c
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>>58295621
Wolfe Glick just had an orgasm.
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>mega clefable
bulky slow flutter mane
>mega floette
flutter mane on riods but slower
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>>58295621
Not real. Ballguy already said GFO and Co. did not datamine the stats, etc. We will have to wait until next week.
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>>58295621
Picrel, Gio is such a chad.
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>>58295621
>strong jaw
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No abilities, so I don't know what people think this bullshit is.
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>>58295621
Dragonite is so fucking bad
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>>58296820
Technician for Greninja is worse.
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>>58296835
Placeholders. They are still coded with them.
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>>58296877
I mean, dragonite is already good in non restricted vgc formats (even in double restricted it got top 4 and top 8) so just getting a bunch of stat boosts won’t hurt it.
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>>58297241
It’s outclassed by mega salamence in every way shape or form in terms of a dragon flying type.
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>>58295621
I doubt this is real but Supreme Overlord Mega Emboar would be neat in Smogon Singles. What I'm wondering is if the Gen 6 mythicals will be legal when Champions rolls around since they can be obtained in Z-A and could possibly be rentable too. As for how they'd fare if legal:
>Diancie is incredible with Clear Body, a spread move that has a 50% chance to give a +2 DEF boost, and a mega evolution that gives it incredible boosts to its speed and attacking stats.
>Hoopa-Unbound would be very good if it doesn't have to compete with major legendaries.
>I have no idea how good Volcanion would be
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>fucking battle armor
falinksbros... its over...
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>>58295621
Stop shilling your fanfic stats, there is no datamine
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>>58297297
>What I'm wondering is if the Gen 6 mythicals will be legal when Champions rolls around since they can be obtained in Z-A and could possibly be rentable too
None of the mythicals have been VGC-legal despite being obtainable in games. Deoxys, Keldeo, Manaphy, Arceus, etc.
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>>58297326
NTA but that's probably because there were still other mythicals that were still only accessible from mystery gift distribution, but Champions completely fixes that issue by making Pokemon rentable so now there's no point in a blanket ban on mythicals.
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>>58297306
This is probably a place holder
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>>58297306
Battle Armor is fine for something whose gimmick is setting up an omniboost. Its main problem is that speed and complete lack of recovery.
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>>58297401
That's definitely possible but there's a non-zero chance that all mythicals will become restricteds instead like in SV.
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>>58296835
PLA also had abilities programmed into the game, even if they weren't usable.
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>>58295624
>jew had an orgasm
children were involved, no doubt
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>>58297306
>Battle Armor is just a placeholder
>Mega Falinks gets Simple
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>>58297628
>>58300100
i want him to get an ability thats just a built in no retreat, like what imposter was to transform. inherent omniboost on switch in
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>>58295621
>Clefable
Instant staple holy shit this thing is fucked
>Starmie
Dancer is useless, also Dance moves are mostly physical, so maybe hinting at new Special Water Dance move but still not great, maybe paired with Prankster Swords Dance (which doesnt exist afaik) as a gimmick
>Victreebel
lmao
>Dragonite
no changed ability, could get brand new one, hard to judge
>Meganium
bad unless it gets a new move thats busted, or insane support moves
>Feraligatr
Unless they invent a bunch of new STAB Water/Dragon moves this is just worse than Sheer Force/Life Orb
>Skarmory
Unless there's new Flying or Steel Cutting moves this probably sucks
>Froslass
Intimidate is neat but Incineroar doesn't need a Mega Stone
>Emboar
If it gets a new signature move this thing could very easily go insane, has REALLY good coverage so could definitely make an impact
>Excadrill
Mega Metagross at home who made this
>Scolipede
Mega Beedrill 2
>Scrafty
no changed ability, could get brand new one, hard to judge
>Eelektross
no changed ability, could get brand new one, hard to judge
>Chandelure
Mega Gengar 2
>Chesnaught
Instant top tier with that stat distribution, movepool, and Stamina
>Delphox
Levitate is good but only 124 SpA isn't great when it doesn't get an item, has to compete with Armarouge who gets an item
>Greninja
162 is overkill as hell, and 125/123 with Technician is ass
>Pyroar
no changed ability, could get brand new one, hard to judge
>Floette
mythical
>Malamar
no changed ability, could get brand new one, hard to judge, needs some REAL custom shit with those stats god
>Barbaracle
lmao
>Dragalge
no changed ability, could get brand new one, hard to judge
>Hawlucha
Give it Tailwind back then MAYBE
>Zygarde
Doesn't matter if thats not the final ability jesus christ
>Drampa
no changed ability, could get brand new one, hard to judge
>Falinks
no changed ability, could get brand new one, hard to judge
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Mega Emboar actually sounds like a monster
145 attack supreme overlord??? He can't play the Kingambit minigame but still
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>>58297241
>I mean, dragonite is already good in non restricted vgc formats
Only thanks to Terrastallization. If the new regulations are Mega only then its usage will drop like a stone even with a Mega form.
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>>58302217
Emboar gets Sucker Punch, it's not STAB, but holy fuck I don't imagine many things wanting to switch into this fucker with how hard it hits, Emboar also gets Flame Charge to boost it's up while doing some fairly alright damage. Imagine if Mega Emboar gets a Fire or Fighting type version of Sucker Punch kek.
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Bump
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>>58297241
Dragonite is already good, but is this mega worth using your mega slot on just to make it better?
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>>58304451
This is basically the problem with 95% of megas. Because you have to give up your item just to potentially mega, you only bring a pokemon as a mega if you intend to mega it every battle. Because of this you only use the best two or three pokemon. If every mega worked like Rayquaza and you could run a regular hold item, then the pokemon wouldn't be dead weight if it didn't mega and you'd see more dynamic gameplay like with dynamax or tera and players would choose which pokemon to mega based on the state of the battle.
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>>58304538
I get what you mean, but I don't think that's a change that can be retroactively made because megas are generally balanced around not being able to hold items.
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>>58302217
Give Mach Punch
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>>58304538
Being able to do whatever you want with the battle gimmick is exactly why tera and dynamax are so gay, and why mega fug was so broken.
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>>58304538
Most Megas are getting banned to Ubers right away if they were allowed to hold items in singles, Mega Slowbro with leftovers would be retarded, half the Megas holding a choice item would be immensely broken, Mega Zygarde holding a yanche berry would never die and assuming this rule applied to the primals as well, fuck the game is made fucking awful. There's a good goddamned reason Mega Fug was so broken it had to be banned FROM UBERS.
From a quick estimation, both Mega Charizards would immediately get banned, Mega Alakazam would nearly immediately get banned, Mega Gardevoir suddenly becomes unwallable or gets to outspeed things with a choice scarf, which is getting it banned, Mega Medicham goes from nearly one shooting everything to just outright one shooting everything, Mega Lopunny would be constantly complained about, with many citing it needs to be banned, Mega Camerupt suddenly becomes the most broken thing in the game under Trick Room and honestly there's way too many cases to even consider here, but you get the jist. Gamefreak is already shitting itself and trying to make Mega more like Dynamax in ZA and EVEN NORMIES fucking hated it, you are completely retarded if you think this is a good idea.
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>>58305502
Read the OP again
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>>58305674
I'm too retarded and sleep deprived to do that.
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>>58295621
fake and gay list
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>>58295621
I really hope that Frosslass isn't real. Why make it weaker than Glalie mega of all things?
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>>58295624
So have I after I randomly came across a shiny litwick last week.



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