>Come into existence>Immediately attack GodIs "Jungian Fear of Existence" really a justification for the giants actions or did they deserve what they got for attacking Arceus?
>>58310968I too would attack god if i saw it and found out it's some 4-legged retard with too much power for it's own good
fanfic
>>58311080imagine the first thing you saw was God taking it from behind from adam to give birth to more pokmon.You'd fight God too with your Golem brothers.
>>58310968>Come into existence>Immediately attack GodThis is the correct course of action for all beings. If you don't do this the first moment you draw breath you were never truly born.
>>58310968Headcanon
>>58311258It’s objectively closer to canon, more faithful to the spirit of Pokémon, and fundamentally a better and more coherent story than any of the sex shit and everyone treated those as gospel
>>58311267Regignosis IS gospel. Read the leaks, know the truth.
>>58310968the virgin "there is no god" vs the chad "there should be no god"
>>58311299Checked. Consult the sacred scripture, know Regignosis is the only true path.
>>58311111RegiQVINTS OF truth...
>hoennbabs STILL assuming confirmed non-pokémon giants are actually pokémon giants which didn't exist until Arceus made the Pantheon of the universe
>>58311561This proves not denies Regignosis. The regis are bound by the control of the pokemon god of knowledge. Regigigas is the former of the world, the one who creates pokemon purely from the material world, unlike any other pokemon that is sourced from Arceus and his descendant Mew.The confirmation that Regigigas is a "Creation God" aligns with regignosis. Ho-oh revives the legendary beasts, creating pokemon from existing pokemon. Lugia uses its psychic powers to creation pokemon from pure psychic illusion of its thoughts, the illusion wings.Regigigas creates pokemon from the Earth in the image of the giants of pre-history, because it is the last fragment of them.This is why Regigigas is the only pokemon that directly reacts to the plates other than Arceus, he knows what they are. The corpses of the fallen giants.
>>58311080Not me, i would immediately get her submit to me and pump her full of my seed
>>58311698you're not human in this situation, you're a golem made of pure elemental type.
>>58311299
>>58310968Arceus is just an avatar of Aus. Regigigas is just an avatar of one of the original giants.
>>58311812Not an avatar, a fragment. He is clearly a weakened and cursed being by Arceus for his rebellion, which is why he is level 1 when you find him.
>>58311823>which is why he is level 1 when you find him.only in Platinum
>>58311828the definitive version.
>>58311299The eyes are the tiny dots though...
>>58311308>using the wrong eyesIs it really so hard to grasp which the real eyes are?
>>58311991Its an artistic expression
>>58312132his is an autistic expression
Is there a PDF of all the lore and character concepts from the Teraleak?
>>58312166Regigincels are autistic thats for sure. Praise Arceus and repent for your idolatry.
You Will Never Be Canon
>>58312333white men speaking english don't control the canon. The Japanese do.
>>58311758...that has a massive cock that pure elemental cum
>>58310968Regigias in his original form and his brothers are a primordial beings. It is similar to how Marduk defeats Tiamat or how the olympian Gods defeat the titans and Taifun.The giants represent Chaos.He didn't used to be a Pokemon but some other pre-Pokemon form just Aus was not a Pokemon but Arceus is.
Huge Power in gen 10 trust the plan
>>58311111Based quints. Aus' degeneracy must be eradicated.
It’s not a fear of existence, it’s the rightful anger at God corrupting your ideal soul by pushing it into the non-ideal physical world.
>>58311681A lot of overinterpretation and nonsense. Regigigas never reacted to the plates. And Blank Plate proves above all that Regigigas is not one of the giants defeated by Arceus.
>>58311111Kino GET
What I want to know is, why does the idea of Regigigas being a Giant from creation piss off so many people? Even if it's isn't true, I feel like the headcanon angers people. Or is it a chicken-or-the-egg situation where people are just trolling each other on either side?
>>58314626It's implied that the giants aren't Pokemon which means that Regigigas has a pre-Pokemon form.
>>58314626Its only one guy on /vp/ in english. Go on 2chan or any japanese forum and its a well accepted premise. Even the Japanese wiki outright states that Regigigas is one of the giants described on the plate due to context between the way he is described as a giant and the way they are described on the Flame plate.https://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/%E3%83%97%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88>>58314638The difference between forms is key to understand. In Arceus legends we confirm that Arceus the pokemon is just an avatar of the God itself, not the actual God in its full power. It is likely this same premise that is applied to Regigigas as a broken down, weakened, and cursed being of it a lowly pokemon, not a full giant like he was or potentially his predecessor was. The chain goes:Flame Plate Giants > Regigigas > Regis
>>58314722What about Dialga, Palkia and Giratina?Are they also just avatars?I have the theory that Giratina is really a ghost of the original being that was Giratina. It was killed by Arceus, Dialga and Palkia or something else but its spirit revived as the ghost Giratina.
>>58314734The pokemon themselves are avatars of their original forms. From the leaks we know that Ea and Ia took on pokemon form (i.e. had avatars). Its likely the same for Giratina as it is the infinite shadow of the light that Arceus provides.
>>58314746Do you think that the original Giratina is connected to the underworld? For me it felt like it was implied that Giratina was implied to be the guardian or the ruler of the underworld in Diamond and Pearl but it was retconned in Platinum with the distortion world. Maybe only the Pokemon Giratina is connected to the distortion world but the God Giratina is the ruler of the underworld?
>>58314626It's just a theory, based on a lot of overinterpretation, with its share of inconsistencies.The problem isn't really that this theory exists. It's more the fact that you always have the same trolls who constantly insist on it, and they don't do their part because they pass it off as the truth, when we're very far from it.
>>58314722I wonder, since there are multiple Regigigas (one per universe) due to the multiverse, does that imply Aus genocided the giants in all other universes?
>>58314825well multiverse theory would question whether or not there is an Aus for every universe or if Aus is in all of them with an Arceus avatar for each?>>58314814>TrollsHow is talking about a popular theory trolling?>InsistingPutting forth the evidence as to why it is even considered as a theory in japan isn't insistence, its just conveyance. >Pass it off as truthJesus every thread we have this conversation with you dude. we joke that its gospel but its just a theory we like and have fun with. Why does it wound you so much?>>58314805The text in Japanese in text for diamond and pearl first call Giratina's domain 「裏世界」 or "The hidden world" which is by the characters an implication of "beyond death." This aligns with its ghost typing. But in Platinum it was shifted to 「やぶれたせかい」The "Broken world" implying it was chaos and lacking both space and time within it, which aligns more with the theme of it being a force balancing Palkia and Dialga.
>>58314921>「裏世界」 or "The hidden world" which is by the characters an implication of "beyond death." This aligns with its ghost typing. But in Platinum it was shifted to 「やぶれたせかい」The "Broken worldThat means it was a retcon?I knew it.
>>58314921Of course you're trolling. Every time someone disagrees, you spam the same bullshit like, "You can't read Japanese."The elements presented in the theory have clearly been debunked, but you run away every time.The theory is only popular in Japan, and that doesn't define its relevance. Because it's undeniably riddled with inconsistencies.You're just spreading propaganda at this point.
>>58314921>well multiverse theory would question whether or not there is an Aus for every universe or if Aus is in all of them with an Arceus avatar for each?The latter. Aus is probably the only entity across the multiverse that exists only once, with no multiverse doppelgangers.>>58315023>Because it's undeniably riddled with inconsistencies.Explain.
>>58315169When I did it on previous threads, I was begged to stop posting because every point was taken down lolSo you're going to open the archive and reread the texts.
>>58315169problem with that theory is the plates exist in every universe. Aus was born from 1 egg, so there should only be 1 set of plates from said egg made from the corpses of the giants.
I think Regigigas is SICK
>>58314542ah yes, the blank plate. one of the plates made from the pieces of the defeated giants. the plate that didn't exist until gen 8 where it is given to the player by... regigigas, the ancient giant... yes... that blank plate...
>>58315933Can I get a hell yeah?
>>58316420regiGOATED
>>58316437ShRedgigigas
>>58316456Rapid Spin Regirock acceptable?
>>58316208What you say is not a counter-argument.Plates are what remains of defeated giants after being killed. If Blank Plate exists, this invalidates the theory because Regigigas also exists.The fact that it is the wielder of the plate is a logical choice that makes no hidden sense. Indeed, the majority of plates are held by Pokémon that have the same type as their plate (in rare cases, linked to the type without wearing it).Heatran holds Iron Plate simply because it is a Steel type and the Fire type is held by Arcanine.Plates are mainly guarded by mounts and bosses (lords and legendaries). It is obvious and logical that a legendary wearing only the normal type has this plate because the same logic is applied to the rest of the game (I am not trying to be selective on the data to create confirmation bias, I consider the whole game unlike you).I remind you that the theory is based on a Pokedex classification of Regigigas, which is the same word as "giant" mentioned on the plates.There is never any dialogue that supports this, even in Japanese games.I like to use the example of Groudon and Torterra, which have the same classification in Japanese: "continent" because it perfectly illustrates how classifications work and the limits of your discourse. It highlights the gap between your desires, interpreted selectively and extrapolated, and objective reality.>Are Torterra and Groudon continents in the literal sense of the word?No.>Are Torterra and Groudon the same creatures or related?No.>Does the Pokedex classification tell a story?No, it just gives a vague idea of the Pokémon's theme or what it's reminiscent of in the real world.Apply the same logic to Regigigas and you realize that using the same word doesn't mean much and is an overinterpretation.
>>58310968regizide cant come son enough
And the nonsense that reads "Regigigas reacts to plates!"No, the plates are just used to open a door. Regigigas is aggressive and reacts to the player's arrival like the other legendary bosses.When we meet Heatran, he gets angry, lets out a scream, and attacks us as soon as he sees us. I'm guessing he reacts to the plates in our bag because he's a defeated ancient giant! After all, he's wearing Iron Plate, so he's definitely an ancient steel-type giant! Oh, and Cresselia behaves similarly.Or even "god's curse."That's not even consistent with the powers Arceus possesses in canon, which are much more related to the power of creation, light, type, and dimensions. The worst part is that Slow Start is also possessed by Varoom (also cursed by god?) And even the game never mentions it.The truth about this ability is that it simply serves to express the fact that the Pokémon has difficulty motivating itself and reacting. It needs a little time to get going and reach its full potential.Regigigas is because it's been sleeping for millennia, and Varoom is because it's an old engine.Even the leaks don't work in your favor.Regigigas is positioned as a trio master, with a rank similar to Ho-Oh and Lugia.On one side, we have the guardian of the skies, the guardian of the seven seas, and the one who moves continents. It could almost form a beautiful trio, given how much they have in common, haha.Especially since giants aren't Pokémon, and nothing in the leaks indicates that Regigigas is one of these giants.And if APL takes this theory so far against its Blank Plate, it is precisely because it is invalid.
>>58310968Regigigas is not one of the Giants, I still don't understand where this idea comes from? Sure, it's a きょうだい Pokémon, but the defeated Giants are clearly implied to be part of the vortex of chaos that existed before the Original One. Regigigas has nothing to do with that, he's just an eepy boy that created the other regis. Regigigas' purpose is tied to the Earth, it makes no sense that ot existed before the Earth did.
>>58317703Based.Regigigas is canonically in the games, a Pokemon that is part of the Earth.It supposedly moved continents using ropes, created golems in its image with materials, which were supposed to protect humans, but the latter feared their power, so they all ended up sealed or diminished by the people. And that's it.They have nothing to do with the giants mentioned on the plaques; it's headcanon extrapolated to the extreme from a Japanese Pokedex classification that doesn't actually mean much (and the theory is full of inconsistencies).
Shaun-tier schizo.
>>58317784Yeah, I agree with this too. I like Pokémon lore, and I think Regigigas is cool, but the entire "Regigigas is one of the defeated giants" theory always felt super schizo to me. You need to twist the evidence a lot to make it work, which I'm not a huge fan of.
>>58317633not reading all that, the truth is self evident
>>58317824That's exactly it
>>58317633it's a blank plate and not a normal plate because regigigas wasn't defeatedbut it is functionally a normal plate because in PLA you use it to make Arceus normal type
>>58310968Existence itself quite literally dictated "only the strongest may rule" by virtue of creating all of these beings who had immediate hostility for one another, everyone was just doing what came naturally, and if Aus didn't win, the giants likely would've turned on each other until only one remained.
>>58317935You know they could have allowed Arceus to return to its normal form by reusing the plate of its type.Ex: I'm a Steel type, so reusing Iron Plate reverts me to a Normal type. Just like Orbs or the mirror can do.But instead, they added a Normal type plate, with text on it. Stop making excuses, the Normal type giant has already been defeated, and it's not Regigigas.>regigigas wasn't defeatedYes, because Regigigas is not one of the giants mentioned on the plates, so he does not have this role or this background.
>>58317935NTA. None of the plates are literally called "(Element) Plate" they all have a word related to said element. Isn't Fighting Plate it is Fist Plate and it isn't Steel Plate it is Iron Plate. Blank is hardly meant to be taken literally given that it has engraving on it like all other plates. And also the item description itself states>A stone tablet imbued with the essence of normalcy. When used on a certain Pokémon, it allows that Pokémon to gain the power of the Normal type.Which follows the pattern of all the other plates and specifically notes it is imbued with a particular essence, not that it is lacking an essence.
RegigigASS
>>58317976Based.
>>58310968
>>58317035Beyblade-like pokemon when?
>>58318984Baltoy?
>>58318984Look at this
The real lore is that Arceus and Regigigas fought over who would get Charizard from KANTOOOOOOO on their team
It's strange to me that people deny regignosis since regigigas is pretty clearly inspired by the headless one (akephalos) from the greek magical papyri
It makes me sadge that the revelation of regigigas also wanting total arceus death didn't create any art of him with giratina. If I wasn't an artlet I would have drawn them doing that one handshake from predator
In an ironic twist I think this dork poketuber somehow predicted the Regigias terra leak theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml-NNLvqTFM
>>58320487Regignosis passively watches the destruction of his incoherent theory, without ever being able to defend it with a relevant counter-argument.
>>58320776Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde are inspired by Norse mythology about the World Tree. But the story of the Pokemon games has nothing to do with that.Inspiring a design doesn't mean repeating the same story. In this case, nothing in the games tells that about Regigigas.
>>58322017You know nothing about akephalos
>>58322084How is your answer a counter-argument? It seems like you're deflecting the topic with childish nonsense to avoid facing reality.
>>58311111the nvmbers dont lie A*s is a false god!
>>58322017Unrelated, but while it is true that Xerneas/Yveltal/Zygarde are based on the Tree of Life, the Teraleak actually shows the exact thing they were inspired with and it has nothing to do with Norse Mythology. They're actually based on an Austrian painting called the "Stoclet Frieze" which is cited in a few presentations in the Teraleak, like the New Pokémon Snap ones since Xerneas appears there. It's a mosaic consisting of three paintings
>>58320776There are many stories about giants/golems/titans/etc. across history. Game Freak doesn't take from a singular myth, they tend to mix and match different cultures and myths and then adapt them to their own setting. Even then, I think a lot of people confuse inspiration with parallels. You can be inspired by something without mirroring or copying the thing you're inspired by.
>>58322246>Unrelated, but while it is true that Xerneas/Yveltal/Zygarde are based on the Tree of Life, the Teraleak actually shows the exact thing they were inspired with and it has nothing to do with Norse Mythology.The tree of life itself is loosely based on Norse cosmology.
>>58322257Not necessarily, there's other trees of life in other religions and beliefs. Yggdrasil is just the Tree of Life (Norse Mythology edition). Lots of myths originate from oral tradition from a long time ago, and I think Yggdrasil is a fairly "modern" one in comparison.
>>58322246Whether it's this, or what I mentioned earlier, it doesn't change anything.The point of my post is to say that even if a Pokemon draws inspiration from real-world mythology to create a design, it won't necessarily reflect what the Pokemon games will tell in terms of the game's storyline, myth of Pokemon legendaries. Because the game has its own universe, its own characters and is its own thing, despite multiple inspirations in all sorts of scientific, mythological, cultural fields and so on.
>>58322270come on now its fairly obvious given all the legends are at leas partly based on Norse mythology that at leas some of the pokemyth involving the tree of life is based partly on YggdrasilXerneas horns are described as giving life and Eikthyrnir is described as the source of the spring of life in the prose Edda via the dew dripping down from its horns.Zygard is ground dragon and clearly based on Nidhogg the dragon that burrows under the roots of Yggdrasil.Yveltal is a little bit harder to pinpoint but appears to be at least partly based on either the eagle sitting atop Yggdrasil or Vetrfolnir the hawk sat upon it and Morrigan the celtic goddess of death that took the form of a crow.Ill admit its not 1:1 but its clearly a part of the inspiration
>>58311991Yeah, and it kinda fucking sucks. It'd have been way cooler if the colored spots were the actual eyes. But since they're not, they just look like buttons on a retarded open jacket
>>58323280>buttonsThey're supposed to be badges, kinda like how a military person has them.
