What is it's legacy?
It marked the beginning of the end
>>58311864CHARIZARD
>>58311864Drasna taking a disgusting stinking steamy pile :3
>>58311864KANTOOOOOOOOO
Salvaged Pokémon>brought normies back to the franchise>steered the ship away from the giant iceberg that was gen5>marked a return to form as top dog on the monster catching franchise >sales over the roof again>the real magnum opus that saved the seriesHth
>>58311864Player customizationShit was so good only one set of games (SWSH) ever came close to rivaling its wardrobe selection.
>>58311864being the best starting point in the franchise
Never ask a woman her ageA man his salary A bort how much less bw sold than xy
>>58311935>Normies liked it betterIs that really something to brag about?
Turning Pokemon into what it is today, and I mean that in the worst way possible.
>>58311864Serena
>>58311864Megas
>>583119351 million less sales overall?is that supposed to be a bad thing they're both multi million sellers
>>58311935Like 1 million less? Wow. It sold 1/16 less..
>>58311935What are you trying to say, that higher sales = a higher quality game?
>>58311902trvke
>>58312104That's the sad thing. Borts at least are actually passionate about the game. Yawnie doesn't care about XY, she just uses it for shitposting.
>>58311868fpbp
>>58312104Hoennfags are the same. It's kinda interesting how GS/RS and BW/XY's dynamics are the opposite but it's the latter fanbases that are incredibly obnoxious and retarded
>>58311864Kept the series alive after Gen 5 started killing it, and was a step up in mon designs from the horrid shit that came the generation prior. But most of the mechanical changes are for the worst, and its really the beginning of the modern games sucking so much.
>>58312104Lying won't change the fact that gen 5 sold badly
Missed opportunities and underutilized potential.Could’ve been a pretty damn great Pokémon game, content is there, mega’s are a great concept when they’re not going to kanto mons, Pokémon Amie is amazing, but the plot is so bad that it ruins the rest of the game imo, it doesn’t help but so much effort was put into making the game cinematic and the ending that it comes off feeling like a missed opportunity.
best doubles tier battles with the priority wars
>>58311864A miserable pile of lies and secrets
>>58312302Lying won't change the fact that gen 6 marked the end of Pokemon's golden age. It all went downhill from there.
Aegislash is pretty cool
I love my shiny aegislash
>>58312104Weirdly enough, this is true. The Kalosperm clearly haven't played their games.
Notice how borts get the privilege of having “multiple” defenders and only one protractor (Yawnfag bogeyman), so whenever people praise gen5 it’s a whole group, and only one hater, but if you praise Gen 6 and dislike 5 for valid reasons suddenly you’re Yawnfag, you’re discord. B0rts can’t possibly fathom that more than one person dislikes le magnum opus
>>58311864Not having dating or gems therefore being trash.
>>58311864Being the game Unova fans are perpetually jealous of
>>58311864First generation to be worse than the previous gen. No, I will not respond to Verlisify/Yawnfag.
>>58312649>First generation to be worse than the previous genNope. Gen 4 and 5 were both worse than their previous gens. Gen 6 was the first since Gen 3 that was better than the previous gen. That's why you have to make a silly reddit meme image instead of making an actual point. Gen 5 removed battle frontier, secret bases, contests, berry farming, fishing rods, and ribbons from Gen 4 and Gen 6 had to spend time bringing most of them back to fix Gen 5's mess.
>>58312675At least gen 5 improved gen 4's sprites tho
>>58311864The official “jump the shark” moment, picrel.After B/W sold less than previous generations, they found out quality literally does not factor into sales and (correctly) predicted that KANTTTOOOOO the main draw of the new generation and making “pink and girly” a type for drama points would help boost sales (it did)
>>58312681>they found out quality literally does not factor into salesGen 5 was lower quality, so it seems like it actually does factor into sales.
>>58311902>return to form as top dogIf you're going to post bait, at least post bait people might believe is real
>>58312681The jump the shark moment was them fixing dragon type after gen 4 broke it and making poison less worthless?
>>58311864Mega evolution, a few girls, and being so robbed that "robbed" doesn't even begin to describe it.
>>58312691Name one monster catching franchise that outsold XY , I’ll wait
>>58312702Roblox
>>58312687Gen 5 was the magnum opus of the franchise. Kantykes were too obsessed with CHARIZARD to appreciate it
>>58312713appreciate what?like, specifically?
>>58312702Name one monster catching franchise that was ever "top dog" over pokemon. Return implies that it wasn't for a time retard.
Although thoroughly lacking in content, unfinished in a lot of places, and a rough transition from 2D to 3D, these games just hold a special place in my heart that no other pkmn game can replicate.The variety of pokemon, megas, the scenery and music. I know other games do it better but this game just stands out for me. I really hope ZA can do the region justice but it isn't looking like it so farI know most will disagree with me, and I understand your reasons, the game is kinda sucky for someone who doesn't have a close attachment to the generation, but it was far from bad.
>>58312675>battle frontierWhile a step down, BW2 still gave us other things in place of it. >secret basesThey were killed in gen 4. DPPT had them, but not really, and they were removed for HGSS. >contestsKilled in HGSS.>berry farmingFuck that. Framing always sucked. >fishing rodsFuck needing to collect multiple rods. The Old Rod should never have been a thing from the start of the franchise.
>>58311864Best dex ever, first gane with megas and Greninja of course
>>58312746>BW2 still gave us other things in place of itNo it didn't.>They were killed in gen 4.Gen 4 still had them.>Killed in HGSSGen 4 still had them.>Fuck that. Framing always suckedWhy? Because it happens to not exist in Gen 5? lmao>Fuck needing to collect multiple rodsYeah fuck the game actually rewarding you for exploring and talking to NPCs.
>>58312740>Although [LIE], [LIE], and [LIE]
>>58312756>not knowing gen 4 killed bases
>>58312777>play gen 4 game>can make secret base>play gen 5 game>can't make secret base>play gen 6 game>can make secret baseseems pretty cut and dry to me anon. Sounds like you're coping.
>>58312820>>play gen 6 game>>can make secret baseHow do I make secret bases in XY?
>>58312820Where are the HGSS bases?
>>58312823I can make them in ORAS.>>58312900I can make them in DPPt.
>>58311864fooling retards into thinking they put in effort when 99% of returning Pokemon were actually asset-flips from a 4 year old shovelware Wii game
Mega Evolution, evolving Pokemon's gameplay not once but twice.3D Pokemon, engaging with the player as if they were real.Fashion choices, instead of playing as generic player character.As the first gen to leave pixel art behind, it's quite appropriate legacy.
>>58312920wake up babe new new schizo cope about XY just dropped
fourth best mainline games
Does Yawnfag ever shit on johto/ Gen2? I know he hates 4
>>58313253noturns out he only shits on bad games
>>58313274But Platinum is peak!
>>58311864lack of postgamelack of side contentcut featuresblatantly rushedshitty forgettable musicpiss easythe beginning of the end in every way
>>58313685>lie>lie>lie>lie>lie>thing that’s common to every pokemon game>lieevery time
>>58312967You're right. The asset flips from a 4 year old shovelware Wii game looks better than the models that made the 3DS chug.
>>58312920>>58312967It's actually almost unbelievable that everything GF touches becomes soulless, literally anyone is willingly to put more effort into pokemon than the actual people in charge of it
>>58312047Shartrannies use that narrative a lot, yeah, even though it's hilariously very easy to debunk
>>58312649trvke
>>58311864The downfall of pokemon, pure corporate SLOP
>>58312190>GS/RS and BW/XY's dynamics are the oppositeWhat exactly do you mean? Not engaging with the genwar faggotry ITT I just wanna know what you mean by this
>>58314058>>58314370>get proven wrong>proceed to desperately move goalpostsReddit isn’t sending their best, huh?
>>58311864More or less being the first modern era game >Fully 3D mainline game >Character customization >Tons of rebalancing with the biggest one being fairy type >Where gimmicks started to define generations I think the games are just alright but my mind always separates them as a different era compared to everything before it
>>58311864The anime
Pre bank was kino, best bottom screen in the series. Awful post game. Sloppy gyms 5-8 very forgettable despite an awesome start. If you dont think XY up until the 2nd/3rd gym isnt awesome youre retarded, I had like 10 level 30 mons the exp share let me train a ton at once. It also overtrains for the e4 so that sucks. Megas are cool implementation lackluster
>>58314605>Awful post gameawful how>Sloppy gyms 5-8 sloppy how
>>58314615>awful howthey put routes before the credits instead of after the credits>sloppy howthere's only 2 routes and 1 town between each gymunova isn't sloppy even though it only has 1 route between each gym though because it fits my narrative
>>58314615Post game was what? KANTOOOO legendaries, the town with the Friend Safari that while neat I dont really like, the Cuck Tent that nobody liked. XY postgame sucked no e4 rematches was there even a superboss?And I felt the second half of Kalos was rushed compared to the first. Preference. I actually like the autumnal routes, and the wetland and bridge routes before 8th gym. And the waterfall town.XY are super forgettable but they did a lot right. Customization was actually really good in XY too
>>58314681>Post game was what?Battle Maison which is dozens if not hundreds of hours of gameplay by itself>And I felt the second half of Kalos was rushed compared to the firstSo it’s rushed because you expected the game to have 50 routes?
>>58314432>get proven wrongshovelware asset flip. down to amie animations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5lMn6EPbOE
>>58311864The game that ruined the series and the introduction of planned obsolecense. A drastic overcorrection of a non-issue. Caving to the casuals. Designed for iPad kids (as confirmed by Ohmori shortly before the release of ORAS)
>>58314695>A-A SINGLE ANIMATION IS SIMILAR SO IT’S AN ASSET FLIP!!take your meds
>>58314704This thread is asking about XY, not BW.
>>58312588>>58312589>bw support totally isn't botskek
>>58312920I noticed this the first time I saw Mr. Mime in XY. Animated almost identically to how it was in Pokepark. Thought I was crazy back in 2013 but I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it. I gotta play pokepark again because I'm sure there are more animations that look identical.
>>58314716My post is about XY. Go lie down in traffic, yawnfag, no one would miss you.
>>58314741>planned obsolecenseDream World>A drastic overcorrection of a non-issuePadding the game with a bunch of ugly designs after people complained about DPPt having too many old Pokemon, as well as making the game absurdly linear after people complaining about not knowing where to go in DPPt>Caving to the casuals>Designed for iPad kidsMasuda literally confirming he made the game linear because kids got lost and couldn’t finish DP, Lucky Egg being handed out for free, absurdly powerful level up movesets you don’t have to put any thought into, removing the BF, barely adding any improvements for competitive playersYour post describes BW better desu,
every day with these threads
>>58314768don't forget gyms being nerfed down to 3 pokemon and e4 being nerfed down to 4 pokemon
>>58314741tsmT.
>>58314768>>planned obsolecense>Dream Worldalso gems, triple battles, rotation battles, and permanent tmsI don't think a single thing gen 5 added actually stuck around in the series kek
and now yawnchud is samefagging her posts
>>58314432wasn't following your discussion, i'm just saying seeing those models side by side is an eye opner on how GF makes everything look muted and dull
>>58314833>it's worse because...it just is ok?Reddit isn’t sending their best, huh?
>>58314920>weird obsession with internet websites>only has one insult he repeats over and overAutism.
>>58315087>esl seethekwab go clean your treehouse
>Muh postgameYour criticisms are disregarded. You probably cry about Mario games not having a postgame.
>>58315367The funny part is that the game DOES have postgame, it’s literally just redditors bitching that there aren’t 3 routes that were pointlessly roadblocked before the credits that you plow through once in 20 minutes and then never touch againClaiming XY has no postgame is about as retarded as claiming Emerald has no postgame
>>58314803To be honest, these things weren't removed because they planned to. Just that they had to remove them due to technical problems (Triples and Rotations were removed in Gen 7 due to the previous games lagging significantly.)Gen 5 introduced a variety of things that stuck around longer. Hidden Abilities, Dream Ball (though it's functionality changed a bit), certain interactions between moves and abilities, a few held items (like Eviolite), updated exp formula, giving actual rewards for dex completion, (BW2 introduced the Oval and Shiny Charms. Also gave you the Permit item to travel to the Nature Preserve. BW introduced Critical Captures which increase catch odds. Crit captures become more frequent the more Pokémon you register in your dex.), started the trend of games needing HMs less as in BW there was only one mandatory use of Cut. The rest was optional.
>>58312967>left looks leagues bettergrim
>>58315490>To be honest, these things weren't removed because they planned toYou mean just like things in XY?
>>58315497>the obviously worse thing looks better because...it just does ok?Reddit isn’t sending their best, huh?
>>58315506
>>58311864Being mediocre
>>58315490Critical Captures were introduced in XY Sagie
>>58311864Being masterpieces
>>58315660WRONGhttps://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/capture.shtml
>>58311864It's legacy could have been the PSS, but no. GF hate good things for some reason.
>>58315660>Actually fucking wrongMy first Critical Capture ever was a Tangrowth in Black version. Imagine being retarded
>>58312681No matter what revisionism Yawnie shits out, Fairy types will always be what separates oldgens and nugens.
>>58315999No matter what revisionism Sagie shits out, Phys/Spec split will always be what separates oldgens and nugens.
>>58315786>>58315972False
>>58312727Story, themes, characters, ambition, music, sound, difficulty, graphics, spritework, lore, content, engine, artistic intent, gameplay, fun, online, multiplayer. GF put all their heart and soul into this fantastic piece of software.
>>58316023>proceeds to not be specificevery time
>>58311864We Were Robbed
>>58314615>>58314645samefag
>58316005Parroting is an admission of defeat
>58316080thank you for admitting defeat
this kills the yawnfag
Not parroting since it wasn't exactly.
this kills the sagefag
>>58316103it was close enough
Not even close.
>>58316108defeat: admitted
Forgot Sagie can't read. Like when she thought Scrafty wasn't a dark type or when she thought Gen 6 removed the Bike.
>>58316128you talk a lot of shit for someone who admits defeat on the daily
>xhe still thinks if xhe just spams defeat defeat it will somehow workSad.
>>58316146see >>58316141
>defeat defeat! lock and energy field and threw it in the ocean!When will xhe grow up...
>>58316166Chadlos getting more attention broke her mind i fear.
>>58316166see >>58316141
>>58316108Kek this is very accurate on what she's doing now.
>>58311864It was the first gen to be overall worse than its previous gen, a trend that continues to this day. It did, however, have better competitive and introduced the concept of once-per-battle gimmicks, so it has that too.
there should really be a genwar general for these dogshit threads
>>58316108>>58316180samefag
>>58316271We don't sign our posts here.
>>58316285>can't disprove it
>>58316308Everyone can use inspect element or 4chanx.
>>58316323How?What's 4chanx?I use owo vg