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Previous: >>58314718
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>dupes are being counted as new cards
Holy shit, fuck them
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yeah im done with the game
it was fun while it lasted
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So they really hate johto to the point of giving a new pack of old cards instead of starter ex’s? Ok then
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>impossible to complete set because you need all the reverse holos
>on top of that, only four cards per set
>the fact that you already have all these cards doesn't count for completion, nor do they count for old set completion
Why?
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>tfw dupes are being counted as separate cards for completion
>new dupes don't count for old missions
What the fuck is this set?
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This game is dead, FUCK DENA
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>>58314070
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Faggot Nigger Bitch Cunt Giratina
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Does anyone know or have they said anything about how trading will work between cards in this set vs the older ones once these become available? For example, if I pull a Dialga from this set and also have one from Spacetime, then go to trade. Which one does it trade? On the card it has both sets listed that it's a part of. Will the trade register that card for both sets in the future?
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>>58318361
nothing about this update makes any fucking sense, when you check the card it shows as it being available in BOTH packs, and yet it only counts in one?

I think they had this available as both cards counting towards the new Dex, but they changed it at the last minute.
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>3 Rare Picks
>all three give me Primarina EX instead of the goddamn SuiEX I'm missing
>new deluxe pack gives me pure shit
>WonderPicks too
And to think I was actually optimistic about this new set and was even considering getting the premium for the FA Latias...
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>locking full art oak behind a time limit pack
why
WHY
THIS IS THE CARD I'VE WANTED SINCE THE BEGINNING AND THEY JEW ME LIKE THIS?
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>>58318166
>>on top of that, only four cards per set
And you can only get 1 reverse holo per pack, max.
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>>58318361
I would like to let you know, but my first pack today was an ex I already have.
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>got mantyke last minute
Lucky wonder pick.
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I have 600+ hourglasses saved up. I don't even think I'm going to spend them on anything and just uninstall the game
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>>58318427
Because
>THIS IS THE CARD I'VE WANTED SINCE THE BEGINNING
They created the problem(demand), so they could sell the solution(limited supply).
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Can we just kill ranked mode and replace with consecutive wins again? Ranks actually fucking killed this game. No joke. It's just not fun.
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>>58318454
t. greatball shitter
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>>58318460
Not him but the game basically plays itself once you have looked up a good deck on the internet. It's impossible to be below ultraball with suicune
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>>58318439
Noice.
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>got FA oak
great, now i don't think i'll get another one for the playset
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>>58318460
Ranking up isn't a display of skill, it's a display of time wasted. Especially now that every rank has win streak bonuses now.
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>>58318460
No, I get Masterball every season. It's not hard, it's just a waste of fucking time. That's why I prefer 5 consecutive, get it done with in a day, and the rest of the month I'm just having fun with memedecks with everyone else. Ranked made every match into boring metaslop even when you're not playing ranked.
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Are the solo missions timed too?
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30 days til B1
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>96% of the WPs will cost 3 or more during the entire month
This is not good...
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>suicune
punched it
>darkrai
punched it
>tina
punched it (with red, politoad, or after tanking a hit)

poliwrath is so so good into the meta
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>>58318460
imagine trying to gatekeep a game where half of the matches are over by turn 3
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>>58318483
this month will be soo slow
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>>58318361
>if I pull a Dialga from this set and also have one from Spacetime, then go to trade. Which one does it trade?
Also how is your trading partner supposed to know if you want the card to be from a particular set? Trading of such cards will otherwise be utterly timeconsuming without proper communication between players
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>>58318508
>>58318472
>>58318474
>>58318469
t. greatball shitter
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>>58318516
>Trading of such cards
Which includes the majority of relevant cards btw. Trading will be dead if Dena doesn't fix this
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>>58318523
you don't need to sign your posts
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Don't worry everyone. After this set, you'll be able to trade any card you want. Missed Shiny Dakrai? No worries. FA Oak? You can get it from your girlfriend's boyfriend.

But it will cost gold to do these trades.
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i think 2* trades would genuinely create a secondary marketplace of dudes selling cards for money
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>>58318543
alt arts are being sold for 1- 5$ a pop since day 1
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Every single WP I've done so far has hit the 2 pack hourglasses
>rates aren't rigged
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>>58318523
post pre ranked badges
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>paying for non-physical cards
what will you do when the servers shut down?
I'll still have my charizard binders
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>>58318490
I might try to get polywrath if I somehow get 2 copies of all my missing ex.
He and jumpluff seem fun to use.
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>>58318586
Just take a screenshot of your collection
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You can't trade ex cards from this set(yet?)
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>>58318606
Makes no fucking sense since these are EX from older sets. Wtf were they thinking?
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>>58318606
It's not possible to trade the latest pack of every set
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>>58318606
Cards acquired from whatever the current pack is have never been tradable
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>>58318623
It wouldn't surprise me if they never make these tradeable because it would fuck up the trading if everyone has 60 fodder cards to dump for anything meta.
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>>58318623
>Wtf were they thinking?
Money.
You DO want to complete the card collection of this very limited set, dont you anon?
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>>58318627
wonder pick is a bonus, you aren't owed anything from it
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>>58318630
Maybe, but this is still an old card in every way but its origin.
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>>58318638
>but
it's a new card
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>>58318631
yfw rotation bans every A-series card and this pack is useless
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>>58318644
It's not. It's not even listed differently in your collection. They're put in the same pile as the old ones.
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>>58318650
cope
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>>58318652
Sorry meant for
>>58318644
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>>58318649
HOLY KINO
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>>58318644
Sorry meant for
>>58318676
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>>58318649
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Making money is a skill
If you can't pay for the whole set on release day, you effectively have a skill issue
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Do premium pass missions reset after the shop resets? currently i have ALL premium missions complete and i am planning to activate the "free two weeks" as soon Lillie's merch arrives but does the missions reset?
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>>58318709
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>>58318713
What?
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>>58318649
i have no idea how some people are stupid enough to think they're going to rotate out series A
>our game is on a bit of a downturn, what do we do?
>i know, let's piss off the ENTIRE playerbase by removing every single card we made up until this point!
nah bro they'll just EOS.
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>>58318709
>average lillietard iq
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>>58318709
Missions are one month only
You have like 15hrs to activate the trial if you want both September's and October's premium mission rewards
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>>58318727
Wouldn't the free trial by tied to the current pass and end with it despite not being two weeks yet?
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>completionist autists complaining about the new set
>suicune is still the most broken card in the game and nothing will stop it
game is dead
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>wake up
>open my free packs
>very first card i pull is the one single card i wanted the most from the entire set
thanks dena.
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>>58318731
I don't know what you mean
Once you activate the pass it means you're Premium for the next 14 days. If you activate it tomorrow your Premium will end on the 15th and none of September's missions will apply. If you activate now you will get registered for both months that span the 14 days.
Do whatever you want
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>>58318649
They are retarded enough to do this.
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Was hoping for Lillie or Lusamine but I'll take it
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>>58318718
This meta is unfixable. It's unironically better to just throw it all out and start over.
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rare candy never should've been added
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>>58318778
Rare Candy isn't even good anymore. Its only use is in 2 decks.
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>wonderpick cards from the newest set show owned cards FROM OLD SETS rather than ones owned on the new set
How am I supposed to know what cards I need for the new set if EVERYTHING shows as owned??? Holy fuck dena are fucking retarded
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>>58318782
seriously. rare candy is just too slow in a meta where people are doing 100+ damage with basics or stage 1s on turn 3.
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>>58318788
making a new "pokedex" of this limited pack that mostly has previous cards was already a retarded decision
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>>58318798
It did cause a great amount of acceleration for a while, but that quickly settled down when we got really fast basics and stage 1s to answer it.
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>>58318166
why are jews so evil
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Ffs
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>>58318826
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>>58318826
Do you still get 5 pack points, or did they nerf it to 4?
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>open 30 packs
nothing of worth as usual
>open 1 pack on my other account that i use for trading chaff from past sets
crown rare candy
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using babies to ramp into a big >140+ damage stage 2 like poliwrath, zard etc is pretty good counter meta. you can just give your babies up and create a final boss pokemon on your last point with lillie and sabrina
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>pull good cards
>feel happy
>play the game
>get raped by RNG
>feel sad
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>>58318839
I did that with Flareon, and sometimes with Lantern, last ranked season and it was funny seeing all Giratinas and Suicunes die very early.
Only one that fucked me up was greninja, I still don't know how to deal with him and Cyrus.
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>10 pull
>don't get any of the new star cards
Eh, finally got the 4-diamond version of cards I only had 2-star versions of at least
Also WP'd an FA Greninja
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>>58317988
The base set is 353 cards. Try again
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>>58318361
Go ahead and offer any friend you have an Old Amber trade without actually making the offer. On the right there is a edit card option that allows you to toggle the set. Additionally, trade info at the bottom will display the set. It is on you to check incoming trades if set matters.
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The glossy effect looks nicer than the 3-diamond foil look imo
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yeah I'm not pulling this dogshit set lmao. i don't care if I have a big ugly unfinished page. this is bullshit and I'd rather have 300 hourglasses for next month
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>>58318900
You can just use the daily pulls lmao
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>>58318873
i really like how they don't have that shitty grey border that clashes hard with any type but metal
lucked into two copies of zeraora and they look SO much better than the default ones
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>>58318903
I'm not completing a 350 pokemon base set pulling 8 pokemon a day
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>>58318915
you get 480 cards at 2 packs a day
luck issue
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>>58318900
just pulled Shiny Tina on my daily pack after making this post. reminder to bully DeNa if you want better packs.
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>>58318826
I got 4 of those fucking darkrai's
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>>58318900
>>58318927
Lmao, lucky dubs.
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I cant believe I have to wait 13 more hours before I can pulll more
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cant wait for megas to turbo the meta deeper into the porverbial toilet
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>everyone constantly bitches about monthly releases being f2p unfriendly
>dena makes a gap set that has literally no new cards in it so there is absolutely NOTHING to miss out on
>people bitch even more about this
you fucking faggots don't even know what you want.
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>>58318057
>Haven't played in 3 weeks since the Greninja+Darktina spam is obnoxious, hoping for something new to spice things up
>Literally just a limited time banner with repeats dedicated for paypigfags
>Haven't to endure ANOTHER MONTH of this meta.
Welp, time to not touch these threads or the game just for another month.
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>>58318969
f2poors will always complain
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>>58318969
>you fucking faggots don't even know what you want.
I want the literally identical cards that I already pulled like a fucking year ago to be prepopulated in the new dex
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>>58318975
>>58318969
I'm one of the biggest whales here and I'm complaining
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>>58318963
I can believe I have to wait another month for a real set
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>>58318969
I don't even mind the concept of this set. A catchup right before a new series is good. Everything else about it is bad. Existing cards don't count toward its completion, the card pool is diluted to shit, every card is duplicated. pull rates are worse than a regular set. and it's limited.
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>>58318982
i understand why whales are complaining, you have an addiction and now feel compelled to spend thousands of dollars to complete this new limited time set.
but you fucking deserve it since you're subhuman.
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>>58318996
And you only have a chance to get ONE(1) reverse holo per pack, when those take up nearly 50% of the total card pool.
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4 FUCKING PIKACHU THAT I CAN'T TRADE AND 3 FUCKING GIRATINA WHY GOD WHY THIS WAS A 100 PACKS AND I GOT NOTHING, A FUCKING 100 PACKS FOR SHITTY DUPLICATE THAT I CAN'T EVEN TRADE BECUASE THIS SHITTY GAME DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO
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dudes be spending thousands of dollars on cards that are functionally the same as the basic ones but with a little sparkle or some prettier drawings lmao
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>>58318718
Bro, they just fucking released an entire pack that was nothing but re-runs and you don't think they're retarded? Are you retarred?
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>>58319045
Are you new to tcgs?
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>>58318996
i really just fail to see how any of these things actually matter. if they didn't add reskins for people to collect you'd be bitching about it being only reprints right now, don't even try to deny it.
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>>58319051
This isn't a trading card game though, it's an NFT sandbox.
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>completes 50 deck lists and themed collections one at a time
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>>58319045
why are we pretending there isnt a bunch of new art
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BRO, JUST PULLED THE GOLD FOIL OF THE CARD I GOT 5 MONTHS AGO! ONLY TOOK ME $530 ON THE FIRST DAY! FUCKIN AWESOME! CAN'T WAIT TO USE IT IN PVP AFTER LETTING THE TURN COUNTDOWN GO TO 5 SECONDS SO THE EXTRA ANIMATION WASTES MY MOVE!
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>>58319068
lil bro is discovering that humanity has a thing for trinket collecting
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>>58318922
>you get 480 cards at 2 packs a day
Nice maths retard, not even with the premium pass you can reach that amount.
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please god just condense all the series A pack points into 1 pool
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>as a special A-Series close out, the set was specially modified to give you one shit pack for every match you've ever conceded
by the look of things in here it would have to be a while before those 2*'s drop
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>>58319079
Fomoids are just lmao
It doesn't matter how dumb something seems they won't be left out at their own detriment
They can't be helped
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>>58318606
What the fuck, they don't even count as new cards.
If in the future someone puts one of those on their wishlist, how are you supposed to tell which one he wants? How is he supposed to tell which one you are giving him?
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>>58319116
>How is he supposed to tell which one you are giving him?
>>58318871
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Welp it took 12 packs of the new set to realise i'd rather go back to opening old packs in search of kino immersives and rainbows I never pulled. What a fuckin retard pack release lmao. Shinies are incredible compared to this shit
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Umm sweaties.... it's a gacha.... it's literally supposed to have horrible rates and systems that force you to paypig...
What? Other gachas have coherant ways of recycling outdated cards as fillers and pity systems? Ok, but those don't have pokemon creatures so what's your point??
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They just need to combine all pack points into a single pool and have no limit on them and it would make life better for everyone
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>>58319128
Except the people who want your money
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>>58319126
But but but in the real trading card game I can buy any card I want from someone else :<
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>grinding through solo battles
>AI puts all of moltres' generated energy on magby
>uses elemental switch twice to move all of zard's energy onto magby and then retreats magby into zard
so this is the power of """expert""" AI, huh?
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>>58319138
You have to balance the amount of bullshit you put into your gacha, or else player retention starts to drop when people realize that even if they're paying they'll never get the things they want, especially as the backlog of old cards continually grows.

Having a rerun set that will be available for only 1 month, only gives you 4 cards per pack, doesn't count even the completely identical cards pulled from other sets as part of your collection, and has more cards than you can pull for even as a premium subscriber, is completely retarded
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so is this deluxe stuff the 1 year anniversary event or is this the bait to get you to blow your load before the event?
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any mewtwo decks?
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Have we done anything with the Advance Ticket yet?
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>>58319212
this is the bait.
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>>58319212
No this is it, deluxe ex will run well past the anniversary date. They're giving everyone a special Eevee ex and a few extra free pack opens. We had a teaser for Mega Evolutions some months back said to drop in fall that'll undoubtedly get their set after this, coinciding with ZA.
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>>58319228
When is the true anniversary date?
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>they are spending hourglasses on the new pack
guys..
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>>58319238
yeah but what if I get the cool Oak FA
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>>58319238
Yeah but what if I get the cool Greninja FA
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>>58319238
what can i say? i like the way the new 2* cards look. i like the foils. megas are going to break the game beyond repair just like VMAX did in the TCG, why not have some fun before then?
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>>58319215
same as the old build, but replace the 2 gardevoirs with the new glossy or FA gardevoir
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>>58319238
I NEED Lillie.
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I just want the Immersive Pikachu...
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But rolling on the new pack is all luck, you cant even cope with pack points.
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Looking for full arts I’m missing

Wisdom
>Heracross
>Tyranitar
Celestial
>Morelull
Space-Time
>Cresselia
>Hippopotas

Have everything else, I’ll trade anything I have more than 1 or 2 of depending on if it’s a card I use or not.

FC: 0448090988288790
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>>58319238
Crazy Lusamine tho
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>>58318057
not a regular here, just play the game casually.
Can someone explain this new set? It's just a rerun of the old cards? but pulling one doesn't add it to the old set? What's the deal?
At first I thought it was some kind of "event banner" but it kind of just looks like they repackaged existing cards.
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>>58319245
>>58319251
>>58319252
>>58319306
>>58319325
They’re going to have 3 packs for the upcoming anniversary unironically.
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>>58319348
New pack that contains old cards and new art vairents. Its meant for newcomers as all the cards are meta ones or were really strong at some point.
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Uh, neat.
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>>58319373
gotcha, so it's a best of the last year of packs + new artworks.
Dislike how they made the ENTIRE pack its own slot in the card dex, should just be the new art, chances they rework it?
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>>58319392
Id say chances are slim, this pack has to be limited as it invalidates all the others. It cant be around forever
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>>58319238
let them
the same dumbass than use hourglasses to Pull the rare cards of this Pack, are the same Pigs than gonna spend tons of money trying to Pull the new mega Pokemon when they realease in oct, Piggys gonna Pig
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>Open 20 packs
>Get 2 immersive Pikachus
REEEEEE I JUST WANT PROF RESEARCH WHY AM I WASTING MY LUCK ON THIS YELLOW RAT?
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>alt account got immersive Pikachu and Farfetch'd
>main got jackshit
Fuck, this is the kind of shit that makes me want to use my hourglasses.
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>>58319215
MewTina, or just play old Mewtwo/Gardevoir.
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>>58319417
What's the point of an alt account?
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>>58319430
trading with yourself, duh
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>>58319430
You get extra pulls and can trade with yourself
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>>58319430
to feed yourself cards with easy trades. i'm dusting off my old alts for this set, i want to make sure i can get the foil cards i want without having to whale and with how terrible the odds are i need as many chances as i can get.
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so in summary
>Every standard card has a reverse holo with its own slot
>the only new cards are the 2* and 3*s in a sea of 300 old cards where you get 4 a pack
>Cards appear in the dex twice now, with the game counting them as the same in some instances and different in others
>all of this is in service of letting people play a meta that has already been fully figured out and is broken to shit
Did I miss anything?
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As a seasoned programmer, and probably the best one ITT, the the old cards being re-released under the new limited edition xpac having overloaded pointers feels like bad design
>It's a new old card!
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>>58319435
YOU CAN'T TRADE THE BEST SHIT!
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>>58319443
Wonder Pick now has a chance of giving you 2 hourglasses, otherwise yeah that's pretty much it.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR ONE MORE MONTH OF SUICUNE/GRENINJA META! THANKS DENA!
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>>58319459
Yeah but now it's FA Greninja so it's not the same.
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>>58319459
>1 more month
you think the deck is just going to vanish when megas drop? no, the entire strategy for megas is inherently protect the king, meaning it's vulnerable to the exact shenanigans suicune greninja regularly gets up to with bench sniping and punishing.
get ready for an entire year of this shit.
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>>58319160
It's been getting worse and worse. It's jaw droppingly bad this time around.
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>>58319465
Also crown rare rare candies, shiny tina and FA oak.
7/20 cards are new, completely different meta
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Seeing as I'm only missing Garchomp EX to complete the Arceus set, would getting one through the current packs count?
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Finally pulled my first ever crown and godpack after 12k+ cards
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>>58319485
damn FA Lillie as well, nice pull
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>>58319479
that would make sense, so no
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>>58319485
Dammit, that is a very good god pack and no shiny cookblocking too.
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>>58319485
>god pack
>but it's four cards so you got only 80% of regular god pack value
I'd be upset ngl.
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>>58319503
>godpack
>but there's an extremely low chance of pulling shinies that waste slots
>and even if you do get the shinies they're top-tier meta cards
i dunno man i think this is the best time to be getting a godpack
i pulled one in SR and it was planeta wugtrio, a few shitty shinies, and full art grafaiai
something that shit is completely impossible with this set
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>>58319485
That candy makes me feel nothing, is pointless as fuck.
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24 packs and I only got this (the Greninja was a WP).
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>>58319485
Pretty fucking jelly, that's a really nice God pack.
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The game unnecessarily threw three Shiny Darkrai at me this morning, are there any unique decks to use it on, or is it just Darkraitina and Darkrailego slop the whole way down? I actually like Darkrai and want to use it more.
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>>58319485
Wow GG anon fantastic godpack
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>>58319545
arceus/crobat and umbreon/umbreon ex both like to run a single darkrai copy. dunno about rogue decks that run 2 though, aside from nearly unplayable shit like darkrai/miltank or darkrai/silvally.
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>>58319238
Nah, only dailies. I'm at the point where to complete my collection I only need singular exes from different sets, so I figured opening the pack that guarantees 1 ex gives me a better chance.
No, I don't count Reprints: the Set as a separate thing to collect.
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>>58319414
>he's pulling for FA Oak when we'll get Juniper next set
Trust the plan.
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>>58319485
>tfw have spent over 5k on this game and never got a god pack
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>>58319459
2 hourglases for 3 wonder points is awful. At least impulsefags will be able to save their wonder hourglasses.
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>>58319503
If he was pulling a 5 cards pack, he'd have gotten minimum 3 shinies.
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>>58319055
It really would not make a difference to me. All I cared about was having an easy, consistent source of ex cards that I could use for future trades.
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Illustration Rare chasers don’t be spicing they animations.
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Guess it's better than the commons
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>>58319769
Except whales do and who do you think chases 2 star cards?
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>foils will be the main roadblock to actually completing the set, as most people will not trade foils except for other foils
>every 1-3 diamond card has a foil
>there are 278 1-3 diamond cards, half of which are foils, so you'll need at least 139 foils if you intend to complete the set via trading
>odds are around 50% for a pack to have one, so approximately 280 packs
>plus some more packs because odds are you won't have the exact numbers for each rarity of foil
>plus some additional packs because 3-diamond foils are significantly rarer
>plus even more packs if you want to have dupes to actually use in your decks instead of just completiontism
what the fuck dude
i mean i'm still going to go for it with the alt army method and a lot of patience but jesus fucking christ
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Immersive lillie over FA lillie
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>>58319238
Yeah but what if I get Staryu with the reverse holo?
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>>58319835
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>>58319838
But immersive lillie already exists.
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>>58319835
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>>58319838
immersive card borders are ugly and ruin the whole aesthetic
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>>58319835
Based
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>Get WP for new Lusamine
>Immediately get erect
>Jerk off
>Splash on screen
>Jizz picked the wrong card

FUCK FUCK FUCK I WAS GOING TO PICK BOTTOM LEFT, CAN I REDO???
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>no fa in my wonderpick
Come on guys seriously
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Actual non meme answers please:
I'm not a latefag so I already have most of the cards anyway, should I waste hourglasses on this pack for a chance at good shit or just stick to the original sets? Way I see it this is just a bloated ass set with 350+ cards so the """increased odds""" per pack kind of blow.
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>open 12 packs
>no 2*
>no ex I didn't already have
>only """rare""" is a fucking shiny Darkrai
>nothing in WP either
Jews gonna Jew I guess
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>>58319967
>waste hourglasses on this
>or stick to the original sets
you're... not spending glasses on old sets, are you?
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>>58319967
No, save hourglasses for the next set and use your twice daily freebies for this one just so you can get a chance of the limited time cards. Even the reverse foils may somehow be useful sometime in the future if you need trade fodder.
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>>58319967
Just do dailies unless you have all the relevant cards. The only few good rare cards are the trainer full arts and you could just get those from free pulls so don't worry about it.
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>>58319976
>open 12 packs
>don't get 3% chance card
>WTF DENA
why is /vp/ so unbelievably retarded?
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>managed to WP 2 FA Greninjas in a row
I'm on a roll
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>>58319983
Ah right... The same trainer full arts I always get in free pulls haha
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>>58319996
Statistically I should have pulled 1.26 of your 3% chance cards out of the 42 I have.
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>>58320010
Not every card slot is equal.
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>>58320010
most intelligent /vp/ user right here folks
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Speaking of probabilities, any datamines have the real odds of cointosses? They're definitely not 50/50. I noticed cards that have multiple coinflips are more likely to get tails than those with single coin flips, so they probably weigh it out based on how powerful an effect is if it reaches its max potential.
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>>58320051
I also noticed they stealth nerf some flip cards. Celebi EX was flippin heads like a madman when it first launched, now it gits like a limp dick.
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>>58319451
the cards don't even get labelled as "new" when you pull them, but you still have to slide them up and watch them get added to the limited set's collection
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>>58320051
I've heard before that coin flips are weighted against you during solo battles, but should be true random in pvp.
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>>58320051
>they're definitely not 50/50
this is the single greatest sign that they're actually 50/50 btw
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30 packs for rare candy and shiny darktina
i feel it
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I don't regret my 10-pull. I got Gardevoir and Greninja out of it. And a couple of ex mons I didn't have or didn't have 2 of.
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might actually drop the game after this. i can ignore it I guess.
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Pretty good luck desu. It's not a waifu but Oak *is* the best card in the game, so can't complain about 2 FA Oaks.
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>>58319451
>new cards complete missions from old sets but don't count for old set completion despite being in the exact same slot in your collection
It's fucking retarded.
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>>58320261
Can't complain seeing as how you're gonna use them in every single deck lmao
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>>58319633
5000 us dollars?
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>>58320329
yeah
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>>58320338
Do you have every card in the game? Like all the Crown Rares, EX shinies, FA trainers and so on?
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Are the rates on the "good" shit higher? I've already gotten the crown rare candy, immersive pikachu and a shiny giratina ex. Honestly the rates better be above average because it's all fucking dupes of existing cards anyway.
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>>58319633
I'm F2P, started late, and have 4 already.
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>>58320215
>Didn't get jack fucking shit from my 10 pull
>Already got 2 of the 1*s I wanted and some hourglasses out of my 4 wp's I've done so far
Lady luck works in mysterious ways
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>>58319436
>>58319440
How can I make an alt without a second phone?
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>>58320370
I pulled a Slurpuff from WPs earlier, that was the first time I actually got something I wanted in nearly a month.
Better than last set where my 10-pull got me jack shit and then every pack after that did too.
>>58320376
Bluestacks.
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>>58320348
No lol
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>>58320383
Bro wtf? The rates in this game are absurd. Why are you even spending so much on this game? What were you chasing?
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>>58320389
You gotta chase everything because they add a new waifu card every month.
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>>58318969
it has to do with how horribly this set was implemented. if it was just a normal set that wasn't getting removed in a month and gave 5 cards per pack and didnt have shitty reverse foils in it most of the complaining wouldnt exist.
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>>58320383
thats wild dude
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>pull a bunch of trash
>but it completes deck challenges
>have to individually click through three screens to clear each one
What the fuck?
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>>58319485
4-card godpack is a steal tho. They should have let it be 5 cards
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>>58320466
Yeah but the chances that it would have been 5 with no 1* or shiny, you might as well have won the lottery. That anon's godpack is close to as good as it comes
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>>58320466
>let it be 5 cards like regular sets
>now each slot has a 25% chance to be taken up by a completely garbage piece of shit 1 star shiny
lol
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>>58319529
I don't get why they make they keep picking cute/silly meme cards for the best card in the set. Pokeball is novel but every mini expac after I've been glad to have not gotten.
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>>58320490
Using useless/common cards so that the mega rarities are just cosmetic upgrades is how it should be done though, playable cards shouldn't be for paypiggies only.
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What do Japanese players think of the new set, specifically repeat cards having new slots in the binder
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>>58320532
They are too busy whaling to get the waifucards and FA to care about those details.
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Someone trade me jumpluff ex...
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>>58320570
Sure, do you have an SR Pikachu EX?
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Suicune pack EXs will be the most rare after this...
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>old cards count for theme collections but not for card dex
>have to get OVER THREE HUNDRED UNIQUE CARDS to complete the card dex for this LIMITED TIME SET
>cards you get from THIS set DON’T count for older card dexs
>and you CAN’T TRADE THEM because they’re marked as new set cards
WORST FUCKING SET BY FAR
KILL WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THIS SHIT
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>>58320673
Agreed. Can you imagine trading for the ex’s? You have to specifically wishlist the right ex from the right set and hope they don’t just pick from its original set because they don’t have the reprint. What is Dena smoking and can I get some of that
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You didn't complain when mythical island's Old Amber worked the same way as these dupes do for the card dex, so you don't really care about the game rules you're just seething poorfags.
>t. DeNA
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>>58320712
That’s the funny thing, Genetic Apex copies of Old Amber DID count for the Mythical Island card dex as far as I saw. No idea if the reverse was true though.
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>>58320637
I do if you're still up for the trade 9568-0002-9502-4080
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>>58318826
I got the faggot shiny giratina instead of full art oak. I'm mad. >:^(
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>>58319112
Life is fomo faggot and everyone exploits it.
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Sneed Peek when?
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>>58320051
>>58320107

Someone on Reddit did a spreadsheet with hundreds and hundreds of coin flips tracked.

It's 50/50 for most of the game. Except for expert solo battles. It's 60/40 for you to flip heads and go first on the initial coin flip. Once you're in the battle, it's 40/60 that you'll flip heads.
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>>58319901
My understanding of Wonder Picks, is that it IS pre-determined. That's why, if you close the app before picking 1 of the 5 cards, you still get a card.

Therefore, had you actually picked bottom left, a Charmeleon would have appeared there. The positioning is determined on-the-fly after you touch something
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Top sales stuff, very important for us dena investors and all
That said, I have to ask, is the gundam gacha that much popular or the japs are not happy with this ex set bs?
Gget is currently on its half-anniversary, but still
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>>58320928
I'm probably just crazy, but I would swear some of the rates are a little curbed depending on cards. Some of the really weak basics with a coinflip status proc like flabebe or dedenne barely ever get tails, where Misty ~A2A or so after lots crying and complaining feel like heads are actually kind of rare.
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>>58320969
>Gundam in first place
Then why that Gundam Overwatch failed?
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Guess I could make the regular 2 star Mew my new chase card
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>>58320994
Because it wasnt a good game lol.
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>>58320994
Because the pilots of the gundams are generic instead of, well, THE ACTUAL GUNDAM CHARACTERS THEMSELVES?!
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>>58320998
I'll trade you rn
Are you the old sea map guy?
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>>58320736
NOT THEY DIDN'T! I remember clearly that my old amber from mythical island didn't count for genetic apex and I had to buy the card in the set for it to count.
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>>58320994
Overwatch itself failed.
Can't make porn with the models either
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>>58320914
12th
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>>58320969
TCG Pocket falling in popularity can only be a good thing.
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>>58321149
We can trade 2 stars now? I don’t have a sea map
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>>58319633
Damn I'm a free player and even I pulled a godpack hahaha sucks to suck ig. Gotta oink em all!
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i've slowly come to realize that the single most autistic faggot deck in this game isn't suicune greninja, it's fucking guzzlord
>lol i just press button and delete your entire stack of energy and you lose the game xd
genuine cancer, and there's essentially nothing most decks can do about it
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>>58321475
Just build the energy in the bench and one shot.
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>>58321497
and on decks that can't hit 170 (the majority of decks in the game)?
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>>58321530
Just play Flareon.
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>>58321475
Just do it back to him with Team Rocket Grunts
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>>58321475
it's insanely brainless but it isn't the only brainless bullshit and the bar is extremely low for "plays" or "decisions" that actually effect the outcome of a game. it's not fun to face any deck because when rng is in their favor their deck is gay and they are a faggot nigger.

however darktina players are actual factual psychopaths that need a bullet in their head
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>>58321545
>just play [deck that guzzlord has an extremely strong matchup into]
lol?
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>>58321530
My deck can hit 170
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Yeah they've unquestionably done something fucked to auto-play AI to make it near unusable
>AI has basic out in active spot
>has stage 1 in hand
>has energy on it to use the stage 1 attack
>DOES NOT EVOLVE IT AND JUST ATTACKS WITH THE BASIC
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>3 immersive pikachus
>no FA trainers
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>>58321763
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed the player AI was extra retarded
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>day 1 set completion across my multiple accounts
with the power of autism i will see this through
fuck you dena
suck my dick you fucking jews
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I unironically won
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I hit the pull limit for both days so far, these are my results
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>waifufag
>Scroll down
He hides them in shame lol
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>>58320261
>>58320275
You guys know Oak is getting a reprint with a different professor next month right? Oak is cringe
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>he's not making 100 smurf accounts so he can later trade those deluxe cards into his main account
What are you doing, senpai?
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>running magcargo vs ai buzzwole
>okho myself by accident
noice
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>>58321854
You can't trade anything higher than one star.
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>>58321545
Flareon can win against guzzlord but only if you get a good hand early on.
You can obviously hit him twice if you don't have double eevee bag + red, but flareon is extremely vulnerable to his guzzlord's first attack. The guy can easily remove all of your fire stocks.
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This deck got second in a tournament last month with 10 wins and 1 lost. Do I dare? I don't understand why it uses one Erika so maybe I'm too small brain for it
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>>58321876
I tried it and it's fun, if a bit inconsistent. I run one with Cyrus and Repel instead of Cleffa so it might not be as good, but it gets the work done.
>one Erika
You rarely need to heal, and Lillie already works as a second healer anyway. It's way better to guarantee kills and snipe the bench over healing imo.
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>>58321854
people are too busy complaining that completing the set is impossible to actually go and complete the set for themselves.
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Someone dc'd in ranked to stall me out so I'm leaving my phone idle watching him log in and out trying to play again but too angry to concede
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>>58321807
What are you chasing?
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>already got 2 shiny Darkrais from my free packs
imagine being a pay pig. Also, I'm not going to play Darktina.
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>>58321924
>Inconsistent
>Doesn't use Cleffa
See? Though I agree switching communicator for an Erika or Repel would be better
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only reason I was playing this game was for the collecting and now they've fucked up the collecting. I had every set complete as a F2P and now they pull this shit. a shame I can't just give away my rare cards to you guys
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>>58321876
There's nothing more soulless than solo stage 2 decks. It's literally rare candy to win.
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Needed passimian ex to complete celestial set, rolled a 10 on new set got passimian, doesnt count for celestial dex. Yup fuck this game im out i hope dena hq gets fucking bombed
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>>58322254
Have you tried trading in this trading card game?
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>>58322259
I shouldnt need to trade for a card i happen to pull for it to count for my dex completion because dena is retarded or malicious (they are both)
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>>58322259
NTA but didn't they disable trading for the "new" cards even though they are old?
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>>58322221
Stfu DarkTinaNIGGER
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>>58321805
>one of each
Based.
Unironically better playset than having 2 of the same.
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maybe a stupid question, except from the fact that it's an ex, why would run a basic eevee instead of an eevee ex unless i am targeting a specific abilty (like draw a card)? i am not sure how the ex ability works, like do i still need the evolved card in hand or can i just click the ability and choose any evolution?
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>>58322380
The ability works as if EeveeEX is a regular card so it evos normally. Really it's JUST an excuse for running up to 4 Eevees in any given deck (2reg+2EX) since EXs usually can't evolve whatsoever.
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>>58322380
It makes eevee decks super consistent, you never start with the wrong basic card in hand since you have 4 of them
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>>58322380
You don't want to give up 2 points if you brick.
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>>58322380
It's pretty simple
>Normal ex can't evolve
>Eevee ex can evolve as though it was Eevee
>The existence of Eevee ex means you can effectively run 4 Eevee instead of 2
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>>58322415
>>58322472
>>58322495
>>58322503
thanks guys, so it really is just about consistency
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>>58322115
Yeah I know, but I don't have the little pink thing. That's one me though, when I'm done with the current pack I'll try to get her. I'm also missing a second picture so my elec decks kinda suck ass right now.
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>>58322507
It's both about consistency, and being able to run 2 Sylveon and 2 Espeon in a deck. Even non-ex Sylveon is extremely powerful in that kind of deck because everything evolves from the same basics.
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Ok based
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>>58322574
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>>58322380
"[Pokémon's name]" cards and "[Pokémon's name EX]" cards are threated as two completely different cards in the TCG, meaning for example if a Raichu card reads "Evolves from Pikachu", you can NOT use it to evolve a "Pikachu EX" card.

Eevee EX's ability basically bypasses this by letting it evolve from any card that would evolve from regular Eevee. You still need to have said card in end and be allowed to play said card (i.e. it's not the first turn the basic is in play). Basically, what this allows you is to have up to 4 Eeveelutions in play (2 evolved regular Eevees and 2 evolved Eevee EX).
If you're just running 2 Eevees in your deck (i.e. Stokezard Sylveon deck), you're better off running the regular Eevee that fishes Pokémons out of your deck.
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>2 Shiny Faggot Nigger Bitch Cunt Giratinas

I'll take the FA Oak but actually FUCK YOU GAME
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>que up with Darkrai girstina
>Match making becomes completely rigged and I lose to garbage like meowscarada
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>>58322692
Fucking deserved

Neck yourself
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How does this solo battle charizard+moltres deck somehow have fully stacked charizard on turn 5 every single time
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Sugar, Spice & Everything Nice.
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Are any bots available yet
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>>58322574
>>58322590
I know this deck is the strongest in the game, but I honestly don't mind it as much as greninja.
Good shit anon, have fun.
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>>58322731
>tags: mind-break, ntr, milf, bestiality
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>>58321819
I don't even show mine off
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>time limited
>required 2 in every single deck
Is FA Oak going to be the most sought after card in the entire game once this pack is gone?
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When should I sign up for the premium pass trial if I want both this one and the next one? How narrow is my window?
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>>58322858
Rare Candy is more rare due to being a Crown that's also a two of in every deck that uses stage 2s
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>>58322860
Missions can be progressed even if you're F2P, so just pop it on the last day of the month.
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>>58322862
Based, thanks
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>>58322861
But that's not every deck. Rare Candy is useless for basic decks. Oak is unconditional.
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Man the normies are NOT happy about this set kek, who knew a little tick box not getting checked off due to a technicality would cause this much of a shitstorm
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New AI autoplay retardation:
>hitmonlee in active spot
>bench pokemon with 30hp left
>AI uses cyrus to bring that pokemon to the active spot
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>>58322879
The CPU only ever asks itself if it CAN play a Trainer, not if it SHOULD.
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>the only Dragon-types worthy of being in the Deluxe Pack in your path
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This pack should have included promos.
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Is that...the same card I will never use with a new ugly texture? UOHHHHHH IM ROOOOOOOOOOLLINNNNNNNNG
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I would spend my WP HGs if cards from the DX pack counted for old dexes, but since they don't, I'm going to hoard unless it's for full arts
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>>58320938
>That's why, if you close the app before picking 1 of the 5 cards, you still get a card.
It could also just be that it auto picks the first option if you do this. This should be looked into more, but I don't know how you would test this.
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>>58322941
You wouldn't test it, but it doesn't matter. Even if the outcome of your pick mattered, you don't know what card is where.
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>>58322948
Right. Because the order is randomly scrambled out to every single user wonderpicking the same pack, it's basically impossible to find out unless you look at the code.
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>>58322380
Eevee EX absolutely oneshotting people lol. I've never seen a card written with such simple language make so many people stumble. Not making fun of you, this question gets asked so many times in these threads that whenever I see it I almost feel like it's a running gag, it's just funny how the rules in this game are so awkward that a plain statement that's very straightforward constantly gets this question. Speaks volumes about the game's design.
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Hory Sheet. It happened
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WPs are random but also I can psychically predict exactly what card I'm going to get in the second between selecting and a card and the cards being revealed every time.
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>>58322590
Bro, your full art Red??????
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>>58322683
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>>58322731
>Game doing so poorly they had to already drop their Lillie bomb multiple times in just the first year to try keeping attention

Dead
Game
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>>58322981
I can predict the outcome 2O% of the time for some reason
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>>58322980
I too will get there......eventually
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>>58322991
The second set of Lillie cosmetics aren't even in the shop proper, they're part of the premium pass so anyone can pop a trial and get them. They're desperate.
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>>58322858
Seeing that the current deluxe set is time limited and there's statement that it'll come back sometime in the future (perhaps as the last set for set B), My prediction is that the next deluxe set will contain another full art professor research but with a different prof character (hoping for full art juniper)
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>Let my wife play the game while I take a shit
>She used all my hourglasses on this set

Well at least I got FA Oak and gold Rare Candy.
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>>58322979
i've seen cards in other tcgs with super complicated abilities explained in a much better way

i mean you see something like link below in gwent and the first reaction is likely "wtf", then you read it again and if you know how to play you instantly understand how it works, i swear the more i read eevee ex ability and the less i understand it

https://gwent.one/en/card/203199
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It occurs to me that this pack is extra shitty because at least with normal packs if you don't get anything good you still got some PP to eventually grind out what you want whereas with this if you end up with jack shit at the end of the month then too bad.
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>>58323043
It's not hard to figure out. Raichu evolves from Pikachu, not Pikachu ex. ex Pokemon are effectively an entirely different species, because you can run 2 of them and 2 of a non-ex version.
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Fuck this set and fuck this game
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I will now play a guzzlord deck.
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Got to smack this shit bird for once with my celesteela. Get fuck ori abusers
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They should've used this chance to rerelease existing cards but with alternate typing
Dark-type Greninja with Darkrai
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>>58322703
Got my 2nd one
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Ok looking good. But it feels bad when I lose with those shinies
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It's over
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>>58323156
More like guzzle my cum deck, amirite???
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>>58323253
Personally I'm hoping they bring Delta Species into the game. I honestly expected them to come out before Megas but I guess they are REALLY hurting for player attention right now. Delta Species is the coolest part of the TCG and probably the precursor to regional forms.
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>>58323281
>No FA Oaks
>No FA Sabrina
>No FA Mars
>No FA Pokemon Center Cumrag
>No FA Red

Bro?????? Are you even trying???? How is DeNA CEO supposed to afford his 4th yatch at this rate? Congrats



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