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The older I get the more I appreciate gen 1. Sure you can argue certain mechanics are very roughly implemented but I don't think that's what my enjoyment hinges on. I like Pokemon for it's universe and gen 1's is by far the most engaging, not to mention it has a self contained quality with none of the franchise's baggage.
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>>58319428
you must be 18 or older to post on 4chan.
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gen 1 has that special indie soul to it because it was just a couple of guys trying to come up with a game
and gen 2 was just them making a version 1.5, adding stuff they couldn't for the first
after that it just became full corporate cyclical slop
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the fuck is cubone's problem
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>>58319510
he's a mama's boy
such a gaywad lmao
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>>58319476
>>58319444
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>>58319527
kek, that's fucking weak. imagine being cubone
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>>58319532
I doubt 17 or younger nowadays even know what 4chan is, don't they spend all their time on snapchat or tiktok or something being algoslaves
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>>58319428
What makes Tajiri's style different from Masuda's?
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>>58319476
>and gen 2 was just them making a version 1.5, adding stuff they couldn't for the first
No
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>>58319510
Wouldn't you be sad if your mother was murdered?
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>>58319428
>The older I get the more I appreciate gen 1.
...because you're a zoomer hipster who wants to be popular on an anonymous imageboard? Cause' as someone who was a kid when Red and Blue hit the states', I can tell you after playing Red version back in 2018 that it's a fucking dumpster fire, and the more I learn about it the more I realize Pokemon lives and dies on marketing and not gameplay since I sat down and murdered my nostalgia since it's a cancerous tumor all people should excise ASAP.
>Sure you can argue certain mechanics are very roughly implemented
Or not implemented at all. Or, you know, outright broken. The fucking type chart doesn't even work right.
>but I don't think that's what my enjoyment hinges on
Then you're a retarded lemming.
>I like Pokemon for it's universe
its*. Also, the pokemon "universe" is absolute dogwater.
>gen 1's is by far the most engaging, not to mention it has a self contained quality with none of the franchise's baggage.
There's nothing engaging about it that isn't present in every game after.

You're not cool, you aren't clever, you aren't one of the guys, you're a faggot hipster, subhuman pretentious filth that should be mocked and ridiculed just like every other zoomer faggot pretending to be a genwunner on this board.

If you legitimately grew up with gen 1 and have played it any time recently, and somehow you think it's worth playing over the gen 3 remakes, then your judgement is severely lacking and you lack objectivity. You're blinded by rose-tinted goggles of what you perceive as a better time.
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>>58319708
NTA but not really, considering my mother is a lying, emotionally abusive snake of a woman who treats me more like slave labor than a child.
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>>58319773
No, I think you might be the one lacking objectivity. If you think Gen 3 remakes completely eclipse the originals, you are probably one of the people who also think Super Mario All-Stars remakes are the definitive versions of those games. All you see is a new coat of paint but forgot all there used to be under it, or worse, never even knew.
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>>58319551
Tajiri sees Pokemon as an escapist fantasy, a boyhood adventure in a huge and sometimes dangerous world, basically an extension of his bug catching adventures as a child. Tajiri’s Pokemon leans a bit more towards a male audience but Nishida’s designs and Gen 2 softening some of the edge of Gen 1 give it a more universal appeal (this isn’t a bad thing, just pointing it out.

Masuda is basically Tajiri’s most autistic and dedicated disciple, and his Pokemon is predictably based on a fascination with the Pokemon world itself. He really likes coming up with the contradictions and conflicts that can arise in a “modern utopia” like the Pokemon world. It’s reflective of a wider trend of Japanese media around the turn of the century (since Japan might as well have been a modern utopia as well) but also includes meta elements like Team Plasma. The cities and world elements are probably a lot more vivid in his head before they’re abstracted to fit the games.

To sum it up, Tajiri’s Pokemon is a larger, grander version of the real world, Masuda’s Pokemon is a larger, grander version of Tajiri’s Pokemon world itself. Gen 3 was effectively the transition point between the two philosophies because Masuda based it on his own childhood summer vacations in Kyushu.
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>>58319773
What an embarrassing post holy shit. I wish this was some AI bait
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>>58319428
Take off your nostalgia tinted glasses unc. Those games are shit.
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>>58319428
true
not to genwar, but people who grew up with 3-5 seem to really hate OG kanto for some reason
maybe it’s because they are still affected by the hate their games got as kids
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>>58319773
I'm not OP and I'm no purist but gen 3's cancerous music is reason enough not to prefer frlg over rgb
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>>58319428
Pokemon fans are some of the most retarded people on the planet i swear ever since gen 2 they've claimed the next gen is ass EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT END then teh sileng majority come in and say its fine then the people who played it as kids say its the BEST POKEMON GAME EVER and they fight with the people who hated the new gen then the next gen comes out everyone forgets and then about 2 to 3 gens later everyone says that gen they hated which is old was really THE BEST AND THE LASG GOOD POKEMON GAME AND ALL THE NEW GAMES ARE SLOP on and on and on they hated gen 3 then gen 4 then gen 5 and 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 and now they love gen 3 and 4 and 5 and now its starting to wrap to 6 less so because its litterally unfinished but its comming like a wave for gen 7 ive heard so many people say gen 7 was really THE BEST POKEMON GAME and honestly i think all pokemon fans are just retarded
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>>58319904
holy run-on sentence, batman!
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>>58319857
Quality post
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>>58319911
only females get periods
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>>58319428
Yeah, it had a more grounded biopunk science-fantasy vibe no other game has been able to capture
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The deification of legendary pokemon and their center stage focus did irreparable damage to the pokemon universe
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>>58319872
Lately I see more appreciation towards gen 1 or giving it a pass as it was the first. Gen 2 is the centerpoint of every genwar thread as of late.
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>>58319872
Cubekids had high autism that prevented them from recognizing the soulful (humanizing) aspects of gen 1
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>>58319926
No???? Bigot
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>>58320022
dub dubs confirm
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>>58319951
This. That's what turned me off from Gen 3
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>>58319857
>Tajiri’s Pokemon is a larger, grander version of the real world
>Masuda’s Pokemon comes up with the contradictions and conflicts that can arise in a modern utopia
This puts everything into perspective for me, thank you anon
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>>58319572
literally yes
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>>58319773
>and somehow you think it's worth playing over the "we gave Charmander Metal Claw for Brock :)" version, your judgement is severely lacking
KWAB
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>>58320396
Literally no. Tajiri quits midway. Entire region changed mid development. None of the cut pokemon from gen 1 made it. Anime influence, Shudo literally invented Lugia for the movie and they shoehorned it into the game. Lots of simplifying and babyfying the design philosophy for the sake of the tv show and merch production.

I could go on and on
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>>58319428
i like that art too, its cute
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>>58319773
Holy based
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>>58319428
Red/Green(1996) is a vessel of artistic expression, the rest of the franchise are hollow products

If you don't feel this you are not human
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>>58320423
>Entire region changed mid development.
As kino as having Kanto be a single city within a region based on the entirety of Japan would have been, the final product's map (ie Johto and Kanto) looks so much better than the beta map. And was probably a lot more soulful due to its focus on Kansai rather than the more theme park nature of the beta map.
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>>58320652
You can't argue gen 2 is "what they always wanted to do for 1 but couldn't" when even their gen 2 plan was scrapped
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>>58320924
I'm not. But it was certainly intended as the final Pokemon game and they went above and beyond to make it so. It just still couldn't be what they wanted it to be.
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>>58320088
I didn't mind it too much in gen 3 because it was new and different, but it was a slippery slope and clearly a mistake
Real cause of damage is the low-effort need to do the same basic things every single game
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>>58319866
Nice of you to get your opinions from Youtubers
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It’s awkward playing gen 1 with a specific team in mind. So many mons are gatekept until you get the Poke Flute, it’s unbelievable. I picked out a team of six just to play towards using in a recent run of Yellow and only after Giovanni 1 could I add a third member to my party.
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>>58321326
sorry you are only allowed to complain about this in gen 2
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>>58319773
>I can tell you after playing Red version back in 2018
zoomers lmao
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>>58319776
Yeah you would
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>>58321326
If you wanna cheese you can use a pokedoll on the marowak ghost so you don't have to get the silph scope
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>>58321326
>>58321331
can we just admit this applies to the entire series already
it comes with the territory of making sure the player has new options every time they progress
it's not a "problem" it's a basic game design principle
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For years I was gaslit into thinking the games aged horribly and yet when I bit the bullet and finally replayed it a couple years back I had one hell of a great time
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>>58319428
This is so fucking funny, zoomers really think they know what they are talking about huh?
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>>58322490
Your fault for thinking art ages.
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>>58321326
>>58321331
At least Gen 1 and 2 open up considerably around the 4th Gym (specifically, getting the Flute in Gen 1 and beating Morty in Gen 2). That can not always be said for other games.
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>>58319773
OP objectively had fun playing pokemon. You objectively typed a spergy rant on 4chan.
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>>58319428
cute
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>>58319428
sovl....
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>>58323260
How did pokemon designs fall off so hard after kanto?
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>>58319428
old art is always good, but retards seem immune to understanding that gen 1’s whole overworld aesthetic is generic GBA tilesets.

Revisits to kanto never fixed it. Every other generation had more of an identity, EVEN GEN 2.
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>>58324366
You mean after Johto, and it’s because they were afraid of the edgier stuff stealing their audience so they tried to pivot a bit.
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Look at this bad motherfucker
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>>58319428
Gen 1 genuinely has the most fun OU. Most intuitive too, evasion hax and Mew+Mewtwo banned
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>>58319773
>Muh Gen 3 remakes
Found the Hoenn baby larping as an og fan



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