HAHA OH NO NO NO NOhttps://retroachievements.org/forums/topic/32648
>>58335160>They bent the kneeBASED BASED BASED. FUCK CLOVER.
>>58335187>we're not a curator, we are an archival platform>no not like that!
>hate speechhave they even played the fucking game
lotta authoritarians on there apparentlyyou just can't win with these people
>>58335198>get to Pewter City>fight through gym, reach gym leader>Brock calls me a faggot and Sandstorm by Darude starts playing
Huh? What happened to lead to this?And where can anyone get the latest version now?
they probably shouldn't even be doing romhacks at all.
>>58335160>retroachievementsyou have to be 18 years old to use this site anonmods, escort this child out
>>58335160lol conquered by crossdressing men
>>58335209I never even knew retroachievements existed until today, it's a totally irrelevant site that provides nothing of value. You should be using Clover's official website.https://poclo.net/
>>58335198Vandash mind-broke them.
wtf is retroachievements
>>58335254shiiiieee.....
>>58335254I would have guessed furnazi or arabomb. I guess that proves that in the protected classes, white people love niggers the most, followed by jews and muslims.
The funniest thing to me about all this is that they have other hacks up that have just as "questionable" content. I'm not sure why Clover all of a sudden was the one to break everyone, other then it was the most requested.
>>58335219But anon, if this rule was actually enforced there will only be like a dozen anons left on this board
>>58335283They have Custer Revenge and 177.
>>58335293good
>>58335295They removed 177, Custer's Revenge is still there.
>>58335198No they haven't. A lot of people on that thread that were criticizing Clover also admitted to not playing Clover. Why are people allowed to comment on a piece of media they haven't consumed? Word of mouth has just made people think that Clover is this hate speech nazi game that promotes all sorts of terrible things, even though the game labels itself as a parody and it clearly warns the player that it just has a lot of edgy humor. But sure, "PokéTuber Number 100 told me that Clover is an evil and satanic game so I need to parrot that opinion".What people don't seem to comprehend is that Clover is a product of a different time of the internet in which a lot more games, TV shows and other forms of entertainment had the same kind of edgy humor. MSPA, South Park, Family Guy. Sure, that stuff doesn't fly as easily anymore, especially outside of 4chan, but you don't have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to understand that those things weren't created with the intention of actually spreading hate. Historical context matters, media doesn't exist on a vacuum devoid of it. Besides, Clover was a huge piece of rom-hacking history. Meh. People ruin everything by equating humor to hate.I don't particularly care about RetroAchievements, but it does set a precedent towards censoring old content that is "now considered problematic" which I despise.
>>58335316>historical context And it's some crap from not even a decade ago. Can't make this bullshit up.
>>58335316>but it does set a precedent towards censoring old content that is "now considered problematic"They set that precedent many many years ago by being the censorship loving communists they advertise themselves as through their own code of conduct. Clover being allowed and then banned again within the span of a day doesn't change anything.
>>58335324Sure, the full version of Clover released more recently but development didn't start on the same year it released lol. Not only that, but Clover is made to be a parody of imageboard culture which itself carries its own context and history.Maybe "historical context" isn't the correct term if you want to be pedantic, what I meant is more "you can't remove a piece of media from the context it was created in". And you especially can't comment on it if you haven't consumed it.That's about it.>>58335327I was under the impression RA wasn't that censorship-y. At most they ban games like Lolita because of actual legal issues in some territories like the US (obscenity laws), never for a subjective "offensive content" judgment like this time.Outside of RA, yeah I do agree that this is already a thing that's happening in a pretty massive scale and this incident is pretty inconsequential.
>>58335283Because it was made by le ebin hacker 4chan, obviously
>>58335386Any forum that has "no bigotry/racism" in their code of conduct was pozzed from the start.
They went and deleted all the comments off of the game page that were recent, even removing posts from the set creator saying that he was still trying to get some sort of version published.
>>58335160Why should I care about this?
>>58335428Because it's entertaining to read salt.
>>58335431Fair enough
>>58335423the entire comment section is gone now loli read through it and didn't see anyone complaining about it. maybe it was on their discord or something
>>58335441I mean, there's no reason to care about anything on the internet, you should never take seriously what exists for entertainment.
This is unquestionably a good thing as it means more destruction within the Pokemon fanbase. Everyone, time to fucking CELEBRATE!!!
>>58335448>there's no reason to care about anything on the internetNot true. The Internet doesn’t exist in a vacuum
>>58335316>People ruin everything by equating humor to hateRight, and the moonman meme saying that black and hispanic people should be lynched is soooooo funny /s
who cares?muh epic chuderinos who have never seen a vagina versus people who kill themselves over being called their biological sex what a battleyou terminally online faggots should hurry up and kiss or whatever the fuck
>>58335475>Right, and the moonman meme saying that black and hispanic people should be lynched is soooooo funnyThis but completely, utterly, totally and 100% unironically
>>58335475It actually is supposed to be pure shock value, not promoting the death of minorities.
>>58335219Kys cumgarggling faggot
>>58335470The internet is for shitposting and lulz and entertainment. Never take anything on the internet seriously. Only things in real life actually matter.
>>58335475At the very least, it doesn't promote anything. If something is a clear parody or a meme (even you called it a "meme", so you understand it's a joke?) then obviously the consumer isn't going to take it seriously. That's the entire point of a parody. Parodies are not there to make you go "wait, racism is actually based?"Parodies are there to make you laugh at the ridiculousness of the racist individual. It's portrayed as a joke because "lol isn't it stupid that people like this actually exist?" or "lol isn't it stupid that we did this kinda shit in the past?"Whether you find it actually funny or not is a matter of taste, it has nothing to do with your moral values. You're not a better person for not finding shock value humor funny, you just have a different sense of humor.
>>58335524If only this were true
>>58335386Someone also made the argument that the latest update to the game was 2 years ago.>At most they ban games like Lolita because of actual legal issues in some territories like the US (obscenity laws)This has been true up to this point, with their CoC and games that are allowed being separate.
>>58335532KWAB.
>>58335538XD
>>58335257Site that adds achievement systems to old games that don't have any or were made before achievements started being a thing.
>>58335316What things are in the game that make fun of "the other side" actually?Vandash obviously has a literal pig as a counterpart, which is making fun of cops being violent.I think Nazis were pretty consistently showcased as incompetent and stupid.Tinfoil hat theories are of course in there, and those tend to be associated with the right wing nuts, as they say.
>>58335545>achievementWhy do people still do this gay faggot shit? I've always hated the concept of achievements. Literally the gayest fucking fag shit for niggercattle. Retarded fucking shit that has been one of the contributing factors to ruining video games by turning it into job-tier task management where nobody cares about having fun anymore just checking a box and getting it over with. I fucking despise achievements and wish death and despair to everyone that has contributed to their existence.
>>58335567Okay? You having an aneurysm doesn't mean other people will suddenly not care anymore about them. That's why the site exists.
>state that defamation is against the rules>in that SAME POST, imply that anyone who plays the game is a nazi, which is clear defamationI see "the only standards is double standards" is a time-tested rule.
>>58335316>a piece of media they haven't consumed?Are you a fucking post 2000 zoom-zoom, who the hell told you to talk like this?
>>58335485
>>58335833>Giga tranny faggots being power tripping mods? Who could have possibly have forseen this coming?! You can tell this mod is ooenly seething because he is using the typical "all lower caps to sound cool/smarmy and totally not mad" a lot of ironycoalposters do.
>>58335888Millennials.Millennials taught us to talk like this.
>>58335160>Le code of conduct Why should I follow any frivolous ruleset that's most likely created by some terminaly online tranny who's secretly grooming teenagers on his private Discord server more often than not?
>>58335912Lo, the monolithic millennial. The boys and the babes and the browns, all working in concert to force 12 year old to talk like fucking robots. You chose who to watch and who to emulate. You're the first generation with the ability to watch literally anything in the world. You are the problem.
>>58335160You're not owed a platform, if the majority of people don't want you around, they have the freedom to not have you. You're not going to jail, relax. Plus, do you really want clover supported or seen by normies?
>>58335833I hate people throwing out "nazi" when they mean racist. Of fucking course most people don't want racist or bigot content. A site set up a rule and you're mad the rule is being upheld? Why exactly is anyone mad? If this was 4chan banning Clover, understandable, being racist and a bigot isn't against the rules here.
It's okay minorities, I'll get offended for you. I'm white, they'll listen to me.
>>58335160what does "glorifying hate speech" mean?
>>58335485thank goodness you're not one of those terminally online weirdos posting on the 4chan pokemon board. You're better than all those losers
>>58337287It means just having it in the game at all, I'm not sure why they have to add glorifying, but the idea is if a kid plays this and is exposed to hate speech, they'll be likely to talk hatefully as well, normalizing it. A lot of them seem to think "normalizing hate speech" isn't strong enough to virtue over so they went with glorifying.
>>58335160The FreakLeaks caused such an unprecedented fall out that Retro got scared of anything remotely controversial
>>58337342No one cares about those leaks except you false flagging trannies
>>58335531You’re probably right when it comes to moonman meme that it’s made for shock value, I genuinely forgot that that’s the point of some jokes - guess I just never found those jokes to be particularly funny. At the same time though you can’t say with certainty that individuals who share/make those memes are apolitical and doing it for “the meme.” If enough people are “ironically” doing something then people are going to gather and believe they’re being genuine. “Memes” started as silly goofs but now they’re being used by politicians and techbros, some of who are proud white nationalists. I don’t blame the site, especially in this day and age, for not wanting to bring in more nazis who might not get the “absurdity of the humor”. But again, there’s no way to say for certain that all of Clover was made in an apolitical, edgy-on-purpose vacuum.
Is there an email we can use to complain?I have an RA account and joined the discord but it was too much trouble to verify myself
>>58337261Why are you grasping at straws so hard?
>>58337485https://retroachievements.org/contact
>>58335833>xkeepercouldn't just go away after the TCRF fiasco now he's back for more
>>58335198How does this help me virtue signal tho?
>>58335507We don't sign our posts here
Which one of you is this?
>>58337809Should've at least started with the South Park stuff since that the same as Clover, pretty much.
>>58337469Clover was made by a team that is neither majority white nor American.
>>58335160Does anyone have an archive of what the achievements WERE or is this a nothingburger
>>58337849There weren’t any achievements made yet, someone just started making a set after the game had hundreds of requests on RA for years. I guess someone got butthurt about on discord idk, and it got removed
>>58337862There was one very loud individual about this for ages, and it had some light shed to the game on the forums recently, which prompted them to make a news post reminding that RA hosts achievements for games regardless of how offensive they are.This then snowballed into this whole conversation.
>>58337898>There was one very loud individual about this for agesBased free speech chad who never gave up.
>retarded>does nothing but catch funny animals>causes seethe
>>58335485Correct. The only sane post.
>>58337954No they guy spent years seething about Clover.
>>58335475It is though, even more so considering how many people get bootyblasted over it. If words can hurt you then you deserve to get your bones broken by them, you pussy.
>>58337554>filtered by the word Kys
>>58335283Because despite the current state of 4chan, to the average sheep that has never visited the site 4chan is still the "hacker known as 4chan".
>>58335897I mean yeah? Why live if you can't call everyone that's not you a faggot?
>>58335431There's more salt here than anywhere else on the internet.
>>58338019>>58338188>believing on bedssurely
>>58335548Kanye literally dying from ebolaPolk, the skinhead Gym Leader dating TumblritaYou literally help a bunch of mexicans cross the border
>>58335316>expecting people to actually have an opinion of their own when it comes to a piece of medianah, we don't do that nowadays friend. It's better to just have someone tell you how to feel. Individual thought is scary after all
>>58337514Which one do I select? Admins and mods?
>>58337809Where is this post?
>Rape games? Cool>Other games that are edgy as fuck? Cool>One (1) game from 4chan? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
