ITT perfect designed Pokemon who are ruined by ugly evo designs later
>>58342814Rhyhorn is the ur-example of this. Rhydon is such a shit deisgn compared to Rhyhorn.
Bisharp.Yeah I said it.
>>58342830I'm so sick of this lol random weasel
>>58342814Pic unrelated
>>58342814Chandelure isn't the worst floating objectmon, but it's a floating objectmon while litwick is perfect.
I really really really despise Dragonite. It isn't a bad design as its own but it should have never been the evo of Dragonair.
>>58342882No one hates dragonite. You're not cool or unique for saying that.
I know y'all might hate me for this but Piplup.As someone who mainly prefers cute Pokemon, to me Piplup just gets less and less cute as it evolves. And Prinplup in particular is a pretty horrible design in general, even for starter middle evo standards. I was hoping that the evolutions would retain at least a little of Piplup's cuteness but they just don't.
>>58342894It's goofy looking at fuck. I wouldn't say I hate it but I never would use it in a playthorough.
i dont really think a prevo can be ruined by an evo since we know they design every mon as an individual character w its own personality and not really as species anymore, we simply do not have to evolve them
>>58342906"Steel penguin" is a design that could work really well, but Empoleon doesn't nail it.
we can be disappointed in an evo but that is from our expectation of what it would be and not the fault of the evo itself. at the end of the day empoleon works as empoleon and piplup works as piplup and theyre both different characters entirely
>>58342917Yes! You get it! Plus, not quite much about Empoleon's design screams "Steel type." If I didn't already know what type it was I'd probably assume it was either mono Water or Water/Ice or something.
>>58342814Great shiny that gets progressively worse with each evolution, too.
>>58342814Dusclops is based on a mummy and Dusknoir is based on the god of mummification & afterlife (Osiris). Extremely based desu.
>>58342828Bisharp already ruins Pawniard
>>58343044>Dusknoir is based on the god of mummification & afterlife (Osiris)By looking nothing like him?
>>58342821This is like the contrarian example Gen alpha parrots. This opinion didn’t exist until recently.
>>58342814Scorbunny is meh, but I don't like Raboot and Cinderace too furbait.
Dusclops is great but dusknoir sucks>>58343066it's one guy who's been doing this for years
>>58342814Frillish
>>58342814>Game Freak gives the Duskull line an amazing final evolution>But also curses it with the worst stats and ability imaginableDusknoir bros, I really hope we get a mega evolution for the ZA dlc
thread’s over
>>58342830Lmao
>>58343110should've went for something creepier after the line got retconned into being ghosts. Jellicent just looks like a joke with that giant Pringles mascot head.
>>58343062Nothing like him? So having 1 eye (3 eyes), an Atef-shaped head, putting souls into its stomach like Osiris puts souls in Ammit's stomach isn't enough? lmaoIt's also the Pokémon that takes others to the afterlife and evolves from a mummy. It's a good design concept. The only shitty thing is its abilities and movepool desu.>>58343112Dusknoirchad spotted. Hope the Mega does him justice, whenever that might be.
>>58343006So Gible basically?
>>58342821fpbp
>>58342814dusknoir looks cool tho
>>58343448There is no pokemon media where Jellicent female animates its mouth/lips/maybe a mark?
>>58344376idk man, stopped watching before BW. time to find the model sheet.the note under her eyes says the mouth doesn't open, so I guess they're meant to be lips.
>>58342814I've had a chip on my shoulder about Duskull's evolutions because in Gale of Darkness my go to stratedgy initially was using the Duskull you get with Helping Hand in conjunction with Numel's magnitute/earthquake. But then it evolved and lost levitate.
>>58344741Oh does it?Sick, i guess mystery solved then. It's not a functional mouth so it might as well not be. That way both versions don't have mouths
>>58344851also snipped these to show both kinds of Frillish do have a real mouth, but that's probably not a surprise to anyone.
>>5834287710/10I don't hate Beheeyem but Elgyem is so much cuter, his design is way better, his shapes are way more pleasant.
He's cute and I hate the evo
>>58345016It's also perfectly set up for a stage three MIB evo.
>>58342814Can you really call it ruined if the second stage becomes Eviolite compatible?
>>58343120Carkoal is a strong contender for the ugliest Pokémon ever.
>>58345508This. They can make a picrel evolution as ugly as they feel like, just as long as they give it one period.
>>58345521This one hurts alot. Made even worse that it's the #1000 Pokemon.
>>58345531I loved this little fucker so much when it was revealed pre-SV, then came that abortion of an evo
>>58345521literally the reddit mascotthis shit is ugly as fuck
A little off topic, but there are lines that are nearly ruines by their 2nd evo but saved by their 3rd
You guys like Rhyhorn?
>>58345607>ruinesruined*
>>58345607>blue body purple wings>purple body blue wingsNope I don't like it.
>>58345607Fennekin
>>58342830I don't get it. Both Samurott and Hisuian Samurott make sense.
to round out the trilogy, shittily designed mons that have their line saves by later evos
>>58345609Love him, but I love the whole line as well
Goomy. Love that little guy up to level 39.
>>58345607Magneton makes more sense when you learn it was designed first. Some designs in general were like that like with Blastoise, Slowbro, Kadabra and Machoke
Love how it's the most inexpressive mon in the line
>>58345712Yeah, but I must admit that I'm not a fan of Gen 1's tendency to create evolutions that are just “the same but more” (like Magneton-Magmarite or Diglett-Dugtrio, or to a lesser extent, Doduo-Dodrio).
>>58342814SilicobraIts evo looks like shit (with tje anus to boot)
>oh fuck yeah! An unapologetically mechanical pokemon!>oh shit, it's building up to something! I can't wait to see the designer flex their skills and see what kind of clever and cool machine they wind up making!>...I actually fucking hate Klinklang and Klinklang specifically
>>58347336I don’t think Klinklang get’s enough hate for being such an abysmal design. Just a barely coherent mash of gears that vaguely resembles a face
>>58345743I imagine that the creators of Pokemon must have it rough in this sense:Make evolutions that are just slightly bigger versions of their pre-evos and people complain. Make evolutions that are completely different from their pre-evos and people ALSO complain. Must be a tough challenge to try to make the evolution unique yet not too different at the same time.
>>58347712>Must be a tough challenge to try to make the evolution unique yet not too different at the same time.no it's not, there are infinite possibilities between "exactly the same" and "radically different"
>>58342871How is chandelure any worse for being a "floating objectmon" than litwick is? Is litwick's groundedness truly all it took for you to prefer it? Kind of an insane stance, imo. I like the whole line by the way.
>>58342947this, lil nigga wasn't even that bad in-game despite its low stats. Held up better than gumshoos, lmao.
>>58345607shit taste, golbat and magneton are the best of the lines.
>>58347761Floating is the only reason I dislike lampent and Chandelure, but there are lots of reasons I love litwick. It's really cute. That melting wax looks so soft like a marshmallow. I also like the stuff about it burning life force.Floating for no reason is the line between good objectmon like Magnemite and Driftloon and the bad ones like Vanillite and Clefki. Chandelure has a little bit of justification because ghost, but I still think it's dumb.
>>58342830His evo looks like shit, but then again so does he and his previous stage.This line is entirely irredeemable (which is the only starter line to be like that alongside Quaxly)
>>58348297Unless you’re an extreme contrarian, Hisui already redeemed the line.
>>58342828thiskingambit feels like the biggest victim of the modern gen mentality of quirkiness taking priority over designs looking visually cohesive
>>58348345>still can't use its weapons correctlynope
>>58348357>teleports behind you and uses its weapons on you before you can see it
>>58348368>misses and flops on the floor because it needs to spend time pulling out its retarded weapons
>>58348357Except it can?
>>58348372Doing a quickdraw isn’t “spending time”
>>58348372except it's so fast it can do like ten slashes before you can even react
>>58348345>>58348357>>58348368>>58348372>>58348485actual literal playground argument
>>58348485Judgement Cut basically
>>58342814you should have started op instead of posting something irrelevant
>>58342821Rhydon is the odd man out in its evolutionary family in terms of design quality. Rhyhorn has detail and form, Rhyperior has conceptual depth, Rhydunce has jackshit.
>>58342830
>>58342882Dragonite would have been much better if its belly wasn't scaled and it retained Dratini's and Dragonair's eyes.
>>58342947Salazzle is one of the only intriguing Alola designs.
>>58343006Dusclops red shiny is awesome, it's Dusknoir's weird blue shiny that sucks.
>>58342814I don't HATE Incineroar, but I do think Torracat is the best stage in the line.
>>58343549I didn't know thatDusknoir is one of the best designs>>58343082nah u do>>58343112Dusknoir's stats were not bad at all at release, and its stats have nothing to do with it being "bad" whatsoever
>>58343120best example thus farso much potential flushed down the drain>>58345529Rellor will never ever be beaten
>>58348558Dewottards love being detached from reality They only exist to be annoying
>>58348495>/vp/ users have the mentality of elementary schoolersno surprise there
Dusclops is based GO EAT DIRT OP
>>58348583It was better in gens 4 and 5, but too washed out in the other games.
>>58343066>>58343082>nooo you have to like my dumb bipedal faggotmonYou're fat and ugly like rhydon
>>58348882it doesn't look good in gen 4 either
>>58348555correct
Elekid. While, technically, it was designed after Electabuzz, I just don't feel like there's that much connection between the two and the clean design of Elekid gets lost on evolving. Electivire at least makes a little more sense, especially since it has the design of an outlet on its back, but it's hard to beat the simplicity of a round thing with a plug on its head.
>>58345609Rhyhorn is the real reason why people think they like Rhydon.
Duscnoir is dopeDusclops is dopeYou got no taste OP
>>58347586it pisses me off so much because if you can't think of anything; don't make it 3 stages so it can get a final form later instead of being trapped as this garbage.I'm going to be even more pissed if it gets a mega and makes the same mistake twice
>>58347586I think this was put in the game just to take advantage of the newly fully animated sprites
>>58349074they're all drastically different but all cool in their own wayI still personally appreciate Electabuzz's design the most for its pure monstrosity which is rare in the series
Am I the only one that thinks Exeggcute was butchered upon evolving?
>>58350115that line is all filler design-wise
>>58348355His fucking "running" animation ruined it for me, and apparently it also floats in the anime, sigh
>>58345607>hating MagnetonAbsolute shit taste
>>58343082I kind of wonder if the dude is hitching his opinion to Rhyhorn to try and make it more palatable. You can see him sperg out over it. Predictable parasitic zoomer behavior.
>>58350115I like the change, I think exeggcute couldn't really have an evolution that works without drastically changing its design, and exeggutor still keeps its dna very well imo. I even like both regular and alolan exeggutor.
>>58343120I think the one thing that could have fixed the line somewhat past Rolycoly was having permanent burning eyes like we see sometimes when Coalossal attacks and on the Gigantamax, I don't think that would have fixed Carkoal, but it looks pretty cool on Coalossal at least.
>>58350461Coalossal would have looked better with a tail, too.
>>58350115Honestly, I did not like Exeggutor as a kid because I thought its faces were too goofy, especially compared to Exeggcute.
>>58342821literally only Rhyperior fags hate on Rhydon>>58348555case in point
>>58350727this is what Rhyperior fags see it like kek
I know this doesn't count since it came last, but I really wish that we got a jester pokemon.
>>58350770would be a cool mega
>>58345607I still say crobat should have been a split evo from zubat. Then they could both evolve and golbat could really lean into the creepy vampire shtick he has going on.
>>58350770still too orange
>>58342824pic unrelated
>>58350915Golbat should get Dark/Flying regional variant with a new vampire third evo
>>58350718That's it. Exeggcute is sort of badass in a way, Exeggutor loses that
Literally every starter
>>58342871Litwick is much like the duskull line. None of them are bad but they get progressively less good as they evolve.
>>58350353Maybe instead of then being replaced by fruits, they could have made an evolution where you would still be able to see the seeds with the plant growing out of them, maybe tangling them together
>>58350770Rhydonfags have zero idea what makes a good design. Hence why they stan Rhydon.
>>58342894Nah, he's right
>>58342814honestly dusclops is really good too. dusknoir is dogshit though. i wish they used a different shade of grey though
Swirlix is adorable. Slurpluff not having any kind of tail bothers me so much.
>>58348567
>>58352017Fuck, this thing would kill as much autistic sperm as Yoshi does.
>>58343112Dusknoir was fine until Eviolite happened.
>>58352017Now make it blue instead of prange and its peak
>>58342814Filtered>>58342821Filtered>>58342882Filtered>>58351790Filtered
I wouldn't evolve my haunters because I liked its sprite more than gengar's
I know i'm the only one. Kingdra looks like a dried testicle sack and lost the spiky glorious fin-wings for a shitty single round fin.
>>58352269
>>58352312You are not. Seadra is much more aesthetically pleasing. It looks really cool in the sv overworldKingdra weirdly only has one wing
>>58345192This. Pumpkaboo is literally the perfect pumpkin Pokémon. Gourgeist is ugly and stupid and ruins everything that makes Pumpkaboo so good.
>>58352322Holy sex, but maybe a different hue
>>58351790According to the huge leak grovyle wasn't even part of the same line, no?
>>58342947why zoomers are afraid of sex?goddamn faggots
>>58352663Why would preferring salandit over salazzle make someone afraid of sex? I just prefer its design, NIGGER.
>>58352663Because zoomers and younger are so narcissistic, repugnant, and irony poisoned, that they are are unable to form real connections with other people. To them sex isn’t an experience you share with someone, it’s just a weapon used to shame.
>>58348357>>58348372
>>58342824
>>58342882Weird that we've never got a split/regional evo that remains serpentine. Like, we got Britain as a region, put it in the not Loch Ness.
>>58348373ht a stationary opponent that isn't attempting to simply move out of the way while it's stuck in one spot like a retard? Yeah true>>58348485>except it's so fastexcept it's not fast because it needs to spend time pulling out its retarded weapons
>>58352017this is much better indeed
>>58343112it's a physical ghost type. which would've been awesome in gen 3 when all ghost moves were physical. but they put it into gen 4 where every ghost move worth using became special. it's like guys designing pokemon and guys balancing the battle system did not communicate, because if dusknoir had even an 80-power ghost stab with a physical equivalent of shadow ball it'd at very least survive gen 4 outside of the bin.
>>58352663>>58353343nigga we're talking about liking the pokemon salandit over its evolution salazzle, you're making up schizo headcanons about random people with absolutely no basis in reality
>>58353387>Iai is spending time Literally as fast as a claw swipe bro
>>58353387>because it needs to spend timewhich is basically non-existent time since it's clearly fast enough to do multiple slashes before you can even react no matter what you say>retarded weaponsit's called seamitars, or swordsguess you could call wild animals claws "retarded hands" which they need to spend time pulling up
>>58348558>NEW THING GOODoriginal samurott was better
>>58343112I think what Dusknoir would have really liked was for slightly less awful stat boosts from Dusclops.It essentially wastes 10 points by boosting 130 Def/SpDef to 135 for both and 5 points boosting its Special Attack to 65. Should have put all 15 into HP.
>>58342814>ITT perfect designed Pokemon who are ruined by ugly evo designs later
>>58353973I loved early gen 5 when everyone tried out eviolite dusclops because its defenses were objectively better than dusknoir. Still awful but very cool. Kind of wish dusknoir got a mega that leaned into dusclops' design more, always preferred dusclops over dusknoir. Dusknoir getting a mega would be pretty reasonable too imo, not like there are many defensive ghosts to occupy the same niche.
>>58342814Coalossal is the only bad design in the series.
>>58354247Insane take
>>58342830kys furshitter
>>58342814Dusclops is also perfect.
>>58353399Nah, it wouldn’t. It has Gen 3-tier offensive stats and is largely a defensive pokemon with piss for recovery.
>>58354389honestly they should just bite the bullet and make Curse heal you as it damages the opponent. Not like it would be busted, just good. And it would be pretty weak in doubles, which is what they, for some reason, care about.
>>58352384>maybe a different hueNot sure how that helps, but here you go
>>58351076you seem to be under the impression that only Rhydonfags thinks Rhyperior looks like shit, when it fact it is everybody who thinks so regardless of liking Rhydon too or not
>>58342894>no one hates Dragoniteis this your first day alive? otherwise how can you post such a blatant lie that you know no one here will fall for?
>>58342830>Not liking Samurott tooYou don't like Dewott.
>>58352663I don't know, why do you still not know English?
>>58352017Dragonite if it wasn't complete shit
>>58345615It's true!
>>58342947>>58343072>>58343120>>58345521>>58351964Just wanted it known that these are the only ones I even remotely agree with itt. The rest of you have shit taste in evolved Pokémon.
>>58345521love this little guyshame about the evo, it's ruined by its stupid facial expressions
>>58354215Don’t you still see Dusclops in VGC?
>>58355131Does anyone actually even care about vgc?
>>58351964Now that you've said it... yeah, I agree with this one.>>58352300A classic take and still a valid one.>>58352312This is fair.
cyndaquil>cute lil fire shrew turns into fat badger for furfags
>>58353375>put it in the not Loch NessAnon...
>>58343224What point were you trying to make?
>>58355154Shitposters here do
>>58353368You wish.
>>58355094That makes no sense.
>>58342814Dusknoir is cool too. Clops sucks ass
>>58353368kek
>>58342814Hot take. I think Dipplin is unncessary and ruined the whole Applin line, fortunately it was salvaged by Hydrapple.
>>58357917I kinda agree. I think Dipplin just should've been a regional Applin form. They barely look any different anyway. Now the Applin evolution tree looks completely fucked up... what a mess
>no one has posted the most tragic first stager.
>>58358169that's because everyone else is a non-ESL who understood the topic correctly
>>58342821rhyperior is even worse
>>58352663the female body is repulsiveit's that simple
>>58352663jew propagandacase in point >>58358203
>>58358208jews want you to be a porn addict like crazy though
>>58358177What the floop are you on anon, Spritzee is a perfect design with a dogshit evolution.
>>58358169schizo
>>58358212incorrect, jews want you to not reproduce white children, whether that's pushing troonery, faggotry, porn addiction, feminism, female hypergamy or whatever else depends on each person's particular proclivities. There's more than one way to skin a cat
>>58358259>ITT perfect designed Pokemon who are ruined by ugly evo designs later>lateras in, in a game after the game they debuted in.and yes, there are plenty of other faggots in the thread who are equally illiterate. This is a third world board and has been for a while
>>58358283kys schizoid
>>58345529What happened here? Rolycoly is a pretty cute and cool design could've been one of the all time greats if not for the rest of its line, carkol is a mess how do you go from one glowing red eye to two normal eyes also what's up with those eyes why're they stretched like that why aren't they glowing, coalossal is fine I guess I wish it kept the wheels.
>>58358283I'll be honest I didn't catch that either despite being EFL. However, that's fucking retarded cause there's only like 30 Pokémon you can choose from.
>>58343112I can't believe my mega dusknoir hopes are finally realistic again
>>58358274being addicted to porn prevents you from having sexjust look how many virgins are on this site
>>58348345made the transition from dewott to samurott even more jarring though
>>58358283bro the OP image is a duskull, if they meant crossgen only they would have posted dusclops
>>58358349Coalossal needs a tail and the ability to lay prone to become a train.
>>58358885You are not disagreeing with him, retard. Read the conversation carefully.
Worst evolutions of any starters. Becomes some kind of Megaman looking thing with an off centre tree for extra ugliness
>>58358203>the female body is repulsiveniggers here will say shit like this then complain about the white race being bred out AND swear that they are not gay
>>58359389
>>58359407anon you know very well that the people who complain about the end of the white race and who say women are disgusting creatures are one and the same
>>58358911gf, hire this man, NOW.
>>58359439Too close to Archaludon now.
>>58359456Archaludon becomes something stationary when it deploys. Coalossal would be a train.
>>58342814Why does he need a evolution again?
>>58352017This is still dogshit
i wonder what's with 4channers and having extremely dogshit taste when it comes to pokemon designs
>>58359720autism im afraid
>>58359720>>58359725t. zoomers addicted to being contrarian assholes online thanks to big tech grooming
>>58359728Found the 4channer with dogshit taste no wonder your shitty site died before reddit
>>58345743I like it. It’s a good way to keep the charm of a simple design while also making it clear that it has become stronger
>>58342814
>>58359767Seconded. It's why Grimer & Muk work so well too.
>>58342814Ludicolo is ugly
>>58342814I really hate how they ruined this little fella
>>58359811I wouldn't mind getting a new alt evo for him that just made him bigger and fluffier. Venofat.
>>58345743hey FUCK you dodrio RULES
>>583597204chan has good tasteeverywhere else cums over Lucario and Blaziken and Japan (known for dogshit taste already) like fucking Zeraora
>>58360031most /vp/ users get filtered by Garbodor, Chesnaught, the mere existence of Digimon, and any megas that are humorous so I don't think we have good taste
>>58356718Yeah, I wish that you weren’t delusional lmao
>>58359389No, I'm gay
Little Pumpkin
>>58361235this is so gay
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