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Let's face it, the new games will suck. First off I'd like to say that I'm not a Pokemon hater, I'm actually a fan. I hate on modern Pokemon stuff because I want it to be better.

I could look past the flaws of SwSh. But SV was just too much. And instead of redeeming themselves, it looks like they're just going down the same path.
Look at the buildings in Z-A. The buildings are just flat boxes with a .jpg slapped on them. The windows have no reflection, no depth, nothing.
This sounds like a non-issue, but it's very worrying. Even SwSh had decent buildings with actual windows, and that was 6 years ago.

I think Game Freak simply can't make 3d games and instead of optimizing the game, they're just removing everything that might create lag.
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>100 billion dollar franchise
>"nope you cant get good games"
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>>58348525
Gen 1, 2, 3, and 4 suck ass, shut the fuck up and cry more, I’ll be buying it
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>>58348532
>I’ll be buying it

People who keep this scam running should be flogged
Pokemon is just a cash grab for idiots.
I emulate the games and I'm still disappointed because I had to waste time downloading them. They're just that bad.
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>I hate on modern Pokemon stuff because I want it to be better.
And yet you readily and willingly supported their current model and are surperised they aren't actually making games for retarded 20-something manchildren today. Almost as if there's a direct correlation between reception of the brand from kids and the disregard of young adults who want a pokémon series aimed at young adults instead of its historic an traditional demographics.
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>>58348525
If the only critique is the balconies of the buildings, you know the game is gonna be good. No one is complaining about the gameplay or the story, things that are actually integral to the enjoyability of the game, just meaningless shit like this. The gameplay looks kino, the story seems interesting, so I will be buying, simple as that.
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>>58348542
I don’t take criticism from people who can’t even afford the game seriously lmao.
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i just wanna know when will the xci drop
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>>58348542
you can do other things while you download shit you know
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>>58348548
>If the only critique is the balconies of the buildings, you know the game is gonna be good

Once the game is released, there will most likely be a tsunami of complaints and bug compilations.
The current complaints have been derived from trailers alone. Tbh it's pretty worrying if you can see bugs in the trailers because that's supposed to showcase the game's strong suits. It's stuff that they _chose_ to show us. And they're showing us glitching textures and ugly buildings which is a tell-tale sign they have not learned to program games.
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>>58348525
SV was a completely broken game, broken fps, broken bugs, glitchy floor etc, and it aslo was an unbalanced A mash simulator where you overlevel yourself by just catching Pokémon. They also did an utter chaotic mess with the story and the DLC. Now, Z-A is a Legends (therefore a true 3D game), it still looks like a PS2 game but at least the new battle system seems engaging enough. SWSH is just mid
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>>58348554
Whenever cloutchasers start posting pics of the pallets of the game sitting in backroom storage areas. Until we get confirmation places like gamestop and best by and others are actually taking receipt of their ordered stock in preparation for launch, the games can;t actually leak, as they're nowhere near end-user distribution and all damaged boxes WILL be reported to the logistics companies.
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>>58348575
K then don’t buy it. And then pirate it so I can bully you for it
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I'm not playing the game you retard, i'm grabbing the XCI then wait until fans polish it (see: Luminescent, Legends+ BB2 redux, etc..)
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>>58348600
Glad to know at least my opinion will be more important than yours
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>>58348600
>xci
You mean .nsp?

>>58348585
Weird cope for getting ripped off by Game Freak.

>>58348580
>>58348584
>graphics are PS2 tier but that's okay
Considering they have a 100 billion dollar budget, it's actually not okay.
They have more money than Rockstar Games and look at their products.
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>>58348575
Legends Z-A runs at a crisp 4k 60 fps and people have played hour long demos with no stutters or bugs reported. Sorry to say that the game is gonna be good. I know it doesn't fit your agenda, but SV was a fluke, Game Freak is back.
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>>58348615
Nono xci
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>>58348615
Nah I’ve just got money.
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>>58348548
People are mainly complaining about that because game freak refused to show any actual gameplay until like a month ago. What we've actually seen of the game hasn't been very promising either.
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>>58348629
I'll run it at 4k/120 through ryu and Lossless Scaling, exp share, affection disabled, better textures when someone make them, and for free.
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>>58348629

>Legends Z-A runs at a crisp 4k 60 fps and people have played hour long demos with no stutters or bugs reported

That's only because they removed so much 3d models and details from the environment that you get an illusion of smooth gameplay.
They had to resort to flat jpg buildings to get 60fps.
God I can't believe how easy it is to fool you guys.
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>>58348647
Oh shit i forgot unbabified difficulty and more mons lmao.
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>>58348629
Okay they managed to achieve the absolute bare minimum through cherry picked clips. Is the game actually fun tho?

Also this >>58348650
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>>58348615
I actually owned a PS2 zoom-chan. SV's are better than anything I played on PS2. Go watch the "Californication" video from RHCP, it was made inspired by the graphics of the PS2 and is a more accurate rendering of them than running them in any emulator today, coded to negate the worst of the era's deficiencies. But do please continue crying the biggest kid's game on the planet does not need to bother considering autistic 20-something spastics online. The very fact it continues to perform as it had when it lagged in Gen 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 AND 8 prove their audience and incidentls do not prize what you do when it comes to additions to Pokémon games.
>the game with the shittiest graphics ended up selling 16m
The epitome of "I'm number one, why try harder?".
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>>58348650
I love how ZA haters have to jump through so many hoops to reach their shitty conclusion, genuinely gonna be so funny when the reviews are overwhelmingly positive
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>>58348615
Anon, I didn't say it was okay, that was just a comparison to SV, I thought it was obvious that it's a problem
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>>58348660
>the games are still selling so much

Actually, they should be selling even more, considering how big Pokemon is.
SV sold less than Animal Crossing. Everyone knows Pokemon but not everyone knows AC so that's a bad sign.
People are clearly not buying the new Pokemon games.
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>>58348677
Crazy how SWSH are the second most purchased games right behind the ones that have been out for 30 years, and that’s only true because people like you suck off red and blue like they’re good (they’re not)
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>>58348662
>I love how ZA haters have to jump through so many hoops to reach their shitty conclusion

Dude that wasn't mental gymnastics at all, it's just basic game optimization.
If the games were actually good, these "haters" and these controversies wouldn't exist. You don't see these fights with Xenoblade for instance.
That's because Xenoblade looks fucking amazing and the team knows how to make games.
I'm a programmer myself and I could probably make a Pokemon-tier game myself. They're just that bad.
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>>58348677
>holy copium
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>>58348687
>If the game was good these haters wouldn’t exist

WOW you’re stupid as fuck. Yall suck off Unova but I don’t know if you remember how hated they were. It’s called nostalgia blindness.


Also yes, you’re going mental gymnastics
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>>58348532
Ok slop eater
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>>58348700
Ew, an early Gen bootlicker
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>>58348687
I'm currently playing Xenoblade 2 and despite it having some technical issues, the difference between it and any switch pokemon game is insane.
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>>58348677
No, they wouldn't. There's a clear market for them, yes. That is nowhere near the likes of the market of retards who JUST play Mario Kart, for example. You faggots are the world in microcosm, some you cunts NEED to hype up follow-up RPG's and sperg pokémon needs to copy them but 27m bought SV because it was the same game from their childhood, only modern and not on an obsolete shitty handheld that Nintendo shat out to die or they were the fresh blood target market of the series and keyed to buying in. Adults are a different kettle of fish, lotta vocal cunts here need to whine and cry Pokémon remains what it was, I play it because it's remained what it was, which is a sea-change from the games aimed at my age group or adults in general (don't give a fuck for war games, didn't get raised in a militaristic cult mindset in my country, the one shooter series I DO play is similarly unserious and irreverent compared to others in the genre) and a nice bt of escapism to a simpler worldview for a few hours, out of the drudge, grind and worry of adult life (we got hit with a storm at the weekend, got some minor property damage I need to sort, for example. Can ignore having to adult when I'm relaxing after work playing vidya though).
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>boomerfag
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>>58348677
>>58348687
Awareness of a franchise does not equal to sales. The recent Superman's box office should have taught you that.
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>>58348707
That's because the difference in target audiences for both of them is an insane 5 years' gap. That's generally how it happens, games that launch for older audiences generally need to put greater effort into the end result, because older audiences are more fickle and judge games more stringently than children and doubly so than those who buy into pokémon each and every year. This is why every moncap RPG aimed at 12's/16's/older ALL do things far better than Pokéon, yet all lag horrifically to Pokémon in terms of reception and revenue, because Pokémon has a pipeline of virgin game players to make money off, the rest get Pokémon's cast-offs as they grow out of the demographic and out of the IP, but not out of the core premise of a monster-catcher RPG.
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>>58348660
You were playing some very shitty ps2 games then. I feel bad for you if you actually managed to miss out on all the good games in the ps2 library and was stuck playing shovelware slop your entire childhood.
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>still no counter-argument
>still letting me live rent-free in her head
>still very much a child, given her schoolyard tier nickname for me
Glorious to see I still break the mentally feeble.
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>>58348525
>muh le hecking sandbox looks le bad
Fucking kill yourself, Pokemon has never been about the sandbox, it's about the fucking Pokemons.
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>>58348660
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>>58348525
Jesus this video looks bad, that dude looks awful, just an off brand Wendigoon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeB586gLis4

Link to OP's vid.
Watch it and weep, the guy is right. Pokemon is a scam that is kept alive by neckbeards desperately wanting to buy back the childhood wonder
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>>58348786
I’m not watching a video made by off brand Wendigoon.

Also imma buy the game because I know it makes you mad whenever you fail to stop someone from buying it
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>>58348801
I have a criminal record in real life and I know it makes u mad.
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>>58348647
>>58348650
>>58348656

Seethe harder. Funny how you go on and on about this stuff but can't criticize the gameplay or the story. Maybe it's because you're scared they're good and will invalidate your argument? The graphics are serviceable enough and actually look pleasant in some areas, a far cry from SV. Have fun crying on the internet, I'll be having a blast battling in real time with my bros and uncovering the mysteries of Lumiose City.
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>>58348811

They have the money to make a good story and good graphics.
Can you tell me why they refuse to do that?
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>>58348809
It makes me feel better about myself more than anything
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>>58348811
I promise you the only ones crying are the people who literally have not played it yet lol. Everyone who played it in Paris said they loved it.
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>e-celeb faggot thread
why are nds trannies like this?
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>>58348820
I can't tell you and frankly I don't fucking care. I KNOW the graphics are lackluster okay? I get that. That doesn't mean the entire game is worthless because of it. I'm not throwing out the baby with the bath water. The first time Game Freak actually tries to innovate by drastically changing the battle system, setting, gameplay loop, etc and you all wanna whine like bitches. If Z-A actually underperforms I know for a fact the message they take away won't be to make the games have better graphics, it'll be that innovation is dead and then we'll get endless slop for years. The game itself looks fun, the characters seem neat, the gameplay loop seems like it'll be engaging. Why should I hate this game again?
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>hur dur jpeg hur dur

you realize every game has 2d textures right?
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>>58348811
>can't criticize the gameplay or the story
I genuinely hope the story will be nice. I really really want it to be good, but my expectations for it are very low. Maybe SV was """"decent""""", but XY and PLA weren't
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Having a game exclusively set in a city, and then have the city look this bad an undetailed is wild. Shows how little time, attention and love these games get.
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>>58348525
>I'm actually a fan. I hate on modern Pokemon stuff because I want it to be better.


translation im a manchild who doesnt actually like the games i just like nostalgia fagging because the last time my life wasnt fucking miserable was when i was a child
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>>58348850
Come on man, after release you'll complain about the story. This happens every time.
S&M, you said the story was shit.
SwSh, you said the story was shit and hated Hop.
SV, you said the story was shit.

I ALWAYS love the story and everyone else shit on it, reeeee
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It's cope but to my understanding a lot of the areas shift around between regular zones / battle zones / and wild zones as you play through, no?
Like, when an area shifts to a wild zone the terrain seems to be altered at the time
More detail throughout the game would be of course welcomed but I figure that's their excuse, that you'll see one area have uses for multiple things and there lies the detail
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>>58348773
>shit textures AND model vs shit textures
Almost as if they know the backgrounds aren't important vs the people and pokémon, huh? FFX had no excuse, it was aimed at an older audience AND on the bleeding edge of console tech a the time (Something Switch isn't trying to do, by the way).
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>>58348525
The fact that you can’t even type the name correctly reaffirms my point that 4chan does not get an opinion on video games like at all and should never be considered when talking about online gaming discourse
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ZArlos STFU
go back to fisting cowman and sucking abe
ya ugly loser
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>>58348525
It's gonna suck because Mable is not getting a sex scene.
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>>58348525
For a game set in a single city, they should’ve made the city look better.
And what’s with this trend of content creators holding a large mic instead of clipping a small one on their shirt or keeping the mic hidden?
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>>58348525
I'm canceling my pre order if Lapras is not on the game to use in battle. I still have my level 100 Lapras from Y using surf, ice beam, psychic and thunderbolt.
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They could have at least put in some kinda faux store inside the ground level windows - like the inside of a cafe or a grocery or something
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This is what Pokemon COULD look like.
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>>58348525
>Let's face it, the new games will suck
posted about it anyway award
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>>58348531
Even rockstars would collapse under gamefreak's dev cycle
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Let’s face it, the new games will be amazing. First off, I’d like to say that I’m not a Pokemon fan, I’m actually a hater. I praise modern Pokemon stuff because I want it to stay the same.

I couldn’t overlook the strengths of SwSh. But SV was just perfect. And instead of continuing their success, it looks like they’re just improving even more.
Look at the buildings in Z-A. The buildings are vibrant and detailed with realistic windows. The windows have reflection, depth, everything.
This sounds like a major issue, but it’s very reassuring. Even SwSh had decent buildings with actual windows, and that was 6 years ago.

I think Game Freak can definitely make 3D games and instead of removing features, they’re just adding everything that enhances the experience.
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>>58349114
Some tranny redditor spent 3 weeks on this image in photoshop, the bike doesn't even have a kickstand xD
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>>58348786
>pokemon legends za is so bad it finally mindbroke the biggest nintendo shill on youtube
wow
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>>58349114
>This is what Pokemon COULD look like
slop?
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Some people can't accept that pokemon fans don't need graphic fidelity. They just want a pokemon game that is fun to play. When was the last time you had fun.
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>>58349262
>pokemon fans don't need graphic fidelity
sour grapes
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>>58349267
sperg
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Btw the reason you don’t get graphical scrutiny for other monster trainer/catching games is because no one gives a shit about them and the sad truth is they’d look on par with Pokemon if they did have the capital to back it up
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>>58349283
wow you sure proved me wrong
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>>58349290
well thank you for kindly and maturely admitting your faults im overjoyed to know we could settle this like respectful adults
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>>58349289
explain why palworld looks better than sv and za
>inb4 "it doesn't"
turbocope
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>>58349306
It doesn’t. Palworld looks AWFUL
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>>58349320
only a troon would see ark but somehow even fucking worse and go

ERM ACKTUALLY THIS IS BASED
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>>58349329
no idea what the gameplay style has to do with the graphics but you casually admitted that ark looks better than pokemon so I'll take that small victory
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>>58349329
Only trannies seethe so hard at pokémon, they shill literally ANY other shit for free.
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>>58349343
ark looks fucking amazing and its actually pretty fun too its biggest problem is the shitty company that owns it

>>58349350
no you stupid nigger trannies and autists both
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>>58349343
>game aimed at 16 year olds and older shcokingly has better graphics than game aimed at 7 year olds as 16 year olds place more weight on graphics than gameplay or mechanics while 7 year olds ignore graphics as a concern in the face of the presented characters, creatures and world
Amazing how your little victory is just autistic gloating of missing the point.
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>>58349360
>it's shit because it's for muh kids
somehow the poketard thinks this makes "her" look better
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>>58349356
Autists just seethe it's not their childhood and shill old gen shit or romhacks. Trannies are the ones desperately trying to impact Game Freak's business by shilling LITEREALLY any other horseshit for free, in the vain hopes of claiming their birthright.
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>>58349370
ive met quite a few autists(me) that prefer new gen to old shite my theory is ever since gen 1 pokemon had been the same level of shit and its just nostalgia that makes anything seem better or worse

also trannies try to destroy anything that inst one of their quirky indieslop pronoun rougelike rpg with a story based on trauma and fallout new vegas for some fucking reason
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>>58349381
>trannies try to destroy anything that inst one of their quirky indieslop
And palworld isn't that why?
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The fact that these games sell like hotcakes and the graphics aren’t AAA no matter how much autistic whingeing there is, doesn’t that prove that it isn’t a problem since people are voting with their wallets at the end of the day?
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>>58349390
no it is we are in agreement fuck palworld

how did you think i was pro palworld
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>>58349406
Imma just point this out, objectively Pokémon has always been behind when it came to graphics. Even Gen 1 there were better games being published by indie developers. Other games had mastered pixel art when Gen 5 came out but the moving Gen 5 sprites don’t look great.
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>>58349406
framerate and graphics fags are PC master race descendants trying to convicne everyone their overpriced spaceheaters are a worthwile investment when for most people a normal laptop or office computer with a third rate graphics card and maybe some extra ram is all people need
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>>58349368
And yet you're on the containment board of the shithole of the internet with all the rest the obsessed tagnuts squealing about it, as well as us actual fans too old or non-standard to play nice-nice with the general pokémon internet community. So despite favouring those games and that IP, you're bitching about one you see as beneath you succeeding by not caring about you in the fase of your favoured one's limited worldwide popularity and success. Case and point, you autistic little shithead. Die mad, you're already gonna die broken.
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>>58349415
popularity isn't success
everything the normie touches turns to shit
niche = based
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>>58349408
Misunderstanding of the remits, I was talking strictly in relation to Pokémon and /vp/, you clearly were talking about overarching industry.
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>>58349420
>niche = based
i can hear your dilation from here
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>>58349422
ah i understand now seems as if we are in agreement then carry on
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>>58349413
Switch 2 is more powerful than the latest "average gamer" PC specs per the latest Steam hardware survey.
>>58349420
True that, you wouldn't have caught it if it wasn't popular and since you started suckling at Pokémon's teat, the fanbase has clearly gotten worse. Mind, had they done what I wanted them to do in Gen 2 and continue to pitch at the Gen 1 audience, instead of adjusting for new 7 year oilds, wed have escaped that. You'd have to be an adult and old and wise enough to be welcomed in the brand by now had we got our way. Alas, they pitched at kids, leading to autistic kids to get obsessed and lash out like autistic shits because things changed and it's not theirs any longer.
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>>58349429
yeah because if there's one trait that defines trannies is that they want to be niche and outside the public eye, congratulations columbo you figured it out
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>>58348525
Holy shit it's like I play this series to see the windows and buildings
>act like the games weren't looking like shit in 1996-1997 when you have MGS, FFVII and Crash Bandicoot released at the same time
>complain about modern games because it's easy clicks from bots and npc
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Would it have been better if they made it as a switch 2 exclusive?
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>>58349434
You lost me
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>>58349435
nah its more they want to say LOOK AT ME IM SO SPECIAL AND UNIQUE I LIKE THIS SHITTY RPGMAKER INDIE SLOP YIPPIE
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>>58349440
>i-it's always been shit!
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>>58349454
Objectively? Yes, they were, you’re only choosing to make it an issue now cuz you’re not 5
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>>58349445
It was never going to be. Regardless of what /vp/ think, the new Gen pairs are the games to be considered full console debuts, because many Gens ended by the time the new console launched and they migrated, along with cart change. That's held true, LGPE while a Switch game isn't considered the series full debut on Switch, that's Gen 8. Even if they did launch Switch 2 last year, it'd still be a Switch 1 based game, because they wouldn't be required to force people to hard-migrate until the next system, like in past Gens and hardware era jumps.
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>>58349412
even DQ9 doesn't look great, thats the low resolution of the DS, on emulator it looks good
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>>58349448
no way, you're telling me that the post you rpelied to was sarcastic and facetious? how did you figure that one out, columbo?
>>58349463
my point is that if your argument is "it's always been shit", you have no argument. Things can and should be expected to improve over time as a bare minimum
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>>58349454
Yeah the Z-A is shit because? You're comparing it to Shitworld and other Unreal Engine copy paste garbage you think look nice.

Why don't you do the same to Kanto, Johto and Hoenn? GF was playing with pixels when the world was on polygons for fuckin YEARS.
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>>58349471
K but you’re not allowed to make the “it’s gotten worse” argument either since that’s objectively untrue. Again, you’re only being this up now cuz you’re not 12 anymore
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>>58349471
>no way, you're telling me that the post you rpelied to was sarcastic and facetious? how did you figure that one out, columbo?

well ya see i had to really really think really really hard if you can consult the chart youll see
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>>58349471
>Improve
Just like your intelligence and yet here we are
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>>58349474
That's the funniest, most zoomers here have lived in a world where Playstation and N64 ushered in a new era of game graphics for everyone and they're bitching Game Freak lag behind 3D, when they were pissing about with sprites in that same era for 17 years after the revolution. Then have the temerity to disregard the complaints of the past games graphics, because of nostalgiatard investment in their childhood memories.
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>>58349474
Pokemon has always been behind, but it still looked good, and you could justify the worse graphics because the games had a huge amount of pokemons. But nowadays? 200 pokemon, PS2 low budget slop, 20 fps unoptimized mess.
Gen 5 was the last good gen. Gen 6 looked alright, Gen 7 looked god but it was laggy as hell, and Gen 8 is when pokemon died.
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>>58349475
>objectively untrue
not at all, Pokémon Emerald were the only games in the series to run at 60fps until the switch 2 ports of SV, that's an aspect that got objectively worse over time until now, and SV is still buggier than Emerald
>Again, you’re only being this up now cuz you’re not 12 anymore
I never denied that, yes I have a more refined critical eye now than I did when I was 12, how is that an argument in your favor when all it shows is that you don't?
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>>58349495
>Pokémon Emerald were the only games in the series to run at 60fps
And Gen 5 during battles*
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>>58349492
>P-Pokemon died, I swear

Gen 8 has the second highest sold Pokemon game of all time, and Gen 5, 2, and 1 looked AWFUL. Gen 1 isn’t even passable, it’s so bad
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>>58349481
epic counterargument, you sure showed me
>>58349499
never looked like it to me but I'll take your word for it, even then that became worse after
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>>58349495
>Refined critical eye
AINT NO WAY. Brother, you’re on 4chan, the smartest thing you’ve said here was telling me I was right.

Also that means Gen 1 and 2 are also garbage since they didn’t run at 60fps, and so is most of Gen 3 as well.
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>>58349504
>2
>Awful
???
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>>58349499
exept for all the times it slowed to a fucking crawl because the on so impressive "moving sprites" made the game crunch like shit
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>>58349512
frame fags arent real they are plants put in by AAAA game studios so they dont have to actualy made good games
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>>58349516
but enough about Gen 6 during hordes.
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The funniest shit I read here are people who hold gen 5 and 6 as an objectively good looking and playing games while I'm old enough to remember how people here were complaining for days how shitty and unpolished those games were and how Pokemon "ended" with gen 2 and 3.
>inb4 "it got worse"
I'm literally giggling reading this shit. Fuck I'm old.
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>>58349515
Yes. There were better games on the game boy that looked way better than this
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>>58349512
>AINT NO WAY
you're literally the one who told me my tastes got more refined because I'm no longer 12. do you read your own posts before you send them?>>58349512
>Also that means Gen 1 and 2 are also garbage
yes, and you agreed that pokemon has always been garbage so again I don't really see how you think that's an argument in your favor
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>>58349529
hehe look i pointed out the only pokemon game to be literally unfinished to distract from the fact that im simping for the worst pokemon game engine graphics game play and story wise
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>>58349540
>pokemon has always been garbage
So why do you expect them to change? Are you an idiot? Because you sure sounds like one.
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>>58349540
I didn’t say they got refined, I’m saying you got nostalgia blinded. If they were refined, and it wasn’t nostalgia blindness, you would also point out how awful the game you DO like are

It’s in my favor because you like those games anyways, you’re just being a nitpicky asshole because you’re not 12 and can’t be nostalgic for this game yet.
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>>58349533
looking better doesn't mean that it's shit.
Gen 2 looked "worse" than DQ Monsters, but it still looked good. Switch games don't simply look worse than BoTW/Xenoblade/DQ, they look like shit.
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>>58349555
the fact that you can say that

>>58349515
and look at this genuine comedy of unmoving sprite animation that a literal child can(and has) done better then is kinda pathetic
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>>58349547
>So why do you expect them to change?
where did I say this? again, can you read?
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>>58349555
It doesn't "look good" on Game Boy Color, it was looking under average at best. There're shit ton of japanese games which look miles better. Not even competition. It shows you know very little about GBC library.
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>>58349555
Ok but Gen 2 does look like shit, complete shit actually
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>>58349548
>you would also point out how awful the game you DO like are
I literally said every single pokemon game is garbage, you're completely illiterate
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>>58349542
If it wasn’t Gen 5, you wouldn’t have even brought up the story, the fact that you did just shows you care about its reputation.
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>>58349568
Cool so why are you making it a problem now?
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>>58349569
yes the fuck because im genuinely autistic about pokemons story and gen 5 is genuinely the fucking worse tied with gen 4 but barely surpassing it because of the shitty gameplay
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>>58349564
Did these games have the same number of creatures as GS? Because Shantae or MGS are graphical masterpieces for the GBC, but they’re infinitely more "simple" in terms of what I’m trying to do
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>>58349560
Like here, you fucking fag >>58349471
>Things can and should be expected to improve over time as a bare minimum
So you're saying you're not expecting to improve? Kid, your dad knows you're browsing 4chan again?
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>>58349583
I'm talking about jRPG/RPG genre, not shit you mentioned. Atl least 50% of genre wasn't available in Europe/US. Google or ChatGPT or Fortnite it kid. I don't feel like teaching today.
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>>58349596
>I'm talking about jRPG/RPG genre, not shit you mentioned. Atl least 50% of genre wasn't available in Europe/US. Google or ChatGPT or Fortnite it kid. I don't feel like teaching today.

Translation:you brought up valid counters to my point so im going to arbitrarily pretend they arent valid and run away from this loosing argument
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>>58349573
because since the late DS era I've been old enough to pay for my own videogames and I saw the bang for my buck decrease substantially. Again, my critical eye got more refined
>>58349587
ok, so you ARE illiterate gotcha.
protip: me saying that things should be expected to change doesn't mean I LITERALLY expect game freak to change, it means that I find it an issue that they don't change. This is something you would have learned if your school wasn't a mud hut. I'm way past expecting this shitshow of a franchise to ever improve, but that doesn't mean I'm not sad about it
>Kid, your dad knows you're browsing 4chan again?
protip: every time someone calls someone else "Kid" on the internet, it's projection. only children think they're BTFOing someone when they address someone else as "Kid,"
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>>58349255
Unlike at the present, where it doesn't look like slop
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>>58349609
No, they weren’t “refined”, you’re just blinded by nostalgia. If it’s not a problem, then, you do not get to make it a problem now and that’s entirely on you.
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>>58348525
gonna pirate anyway
just about a year of waiting until gta 6 releases and i drop all the other dogshit games in the industry for the next decade
i guess i'll keep an eye out for dokev now that they have a release date for crimson desert
it looked very promising
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>>58349613
yup, that's totally 100% what I said. is it Illiterate Happy Hour on /vp/ right now?
>time in mexico city: 2:57PM
ah that explains it, you just got back from school
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>>58349617
>you’re just blinded by nostalgia
I'm blinded by nostalgia when I say every pokemon game is garbage? make my day and explain in great detail how that works
>If it’s not a problem, then, you do not get to make it a problem now
not how it works, although I don't expect you to understand since you probably are the same person today as when you were a child, so the concept of growing up and having your opinions change with experience is completely foreign to you.
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>>58349626
Then what were you trying to say, enlighten me o holy pokeslop enjoyer
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just wait for roco kingdom world
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>>58349635
>holy pokeslop enjoyer
yup, you're retarded
>what were you trying to say
that the solution to fix slop isn't to make it look like slop again you absolute sped
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>>58349633
I’m saying you’re blinded by nostalgia because you claim that it wasn’t a problem that they weren’t quality games back then, use your damn head

And yes, that is how it works, if you refuse to hold the standards for all the games, you do not get to make it a problem now, also love that you had to throw a couple insults in there, cause you can’t refuse me, it’s cute but I’m not attracted to neckbeards on 4chan
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>>58349633
Sperg mode activated
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>>58349645
>use your damn head
I am using my damn head, unfortunately my damn head fails to see how my opinions as a child have any relevance to my opinions now, and how disliking something can ever be construed as "blinded by nostalgia"
>if you refuse to hold the standards for all the games
how often have I said that I think the entire franchise is garbage, it just took me becoming an adult to realize it? like six times now? usually when someone is intelligent you don't need to repeat simple concepts to them.
>also love that you had to throw a couple insults in there, cause you can’t refuse me
I can't refute* (that's the word you meant to use, Pablo.) you because you consistently decline to read the refutations, it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, you're simply incapable of reading it. You're the definition of the pigeon shitting all over the chess board and strutting around like it's won. You do know everyone in the board can see you acting like a retard, right/
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>>58349645
>And yes, that is how it works, if you refuse to hold the standards for all the games, you do not get to make it a problem now
the concept of changing one's mind is completely foreign to the sped
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>>58349666
Ok 1. I’m not a degenerate m*le so if you could think of a better name to call me, that’d be great, second: my entire point is that the older games are not better objectively, a point that you continue to deny while supporting my argument all the way. If they have always been garbage, how is this any worse? In fact, by default, this game is objectively better because it switches up the formula.
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>>58349672
OK fine, start complaining about the older games now, not just under threads about Z-A
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>>58349678
>I’m not a degenerate m*le
tits or gtfo
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>>58349678
We have a tranny guys
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>>58349681
or, I will complain about whatever the fuck I want wherever the fuck I want and you can die mad about it when you inevitably 41% yourself
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>>58349682
Lmao what makes you think I would show you literally anything at all, fuck off.
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>>58349678
TROON DETECTED TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
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>>58349692
I’m not trans…
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>>58349699
That explains the behaviour
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>>58349699
Ohhh is this why you’re single?
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>>58349702
>>58349707
>>58349712

at least do something cool with your troonsootion become a trans-former fag
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>>58349720
English now please?
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>>58349712
you can't really use the "deny men access to her holes" strategy, you don't have any holes anyone would want
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>>58349720
Also again, not even trans. Smartest 4Chan user right here:
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>>58349726
no
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>>58349733
Not only does that not make sense but I don’t even have to say it, that was already the implication
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>>58349734
you expect me to believe your a f*male on the chan bullshit
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Ah, I see the aspies have taken to calling each other troons for lack of anything more to say on the topic posed by the original poster.
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>>58349750
well if you want i could start sperging over the joos
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>>58349745
Oh I’m just here for the leaks, I ain’t here for any of your shitty opinions. The sooner yall leak this shit, the sooner I get to leave this dump and return to tumblr
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>>58349750
it's a shit topic and it had all the acknowledgement it deserves
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>>58348525
graphicsfag spotted, opinion discarded
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>>58349757
>t*mblr
oh yeah your absolutely a troonsitio0er
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>>58349768
Nope, I’m sorry you’ve never talked to a woman and for you this will probably be the last time you get to
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>>58349779
sorry i only count women with real boobies not whatever oatmeal playdough shit yall stuff in your pecs to make fake titties
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>>58349789
I could care less if you think I’m a woman or not and I’m really not feeling your energy here so imma just leave while you cry about being a lonely virgin, cya
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well yeah but I'm still gonna pirate it
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>>58349809
>just leave while you cry about being a lonely virgin

what is this 2016 get with the times old man robots are in women are out if you have an internet conection and an email you have no reason to be lonely women have been replaced its even more pathetic troon slike you want to be them so bad
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>>58348525
Gamefreak has always been behind in developing games. Even back on the ds with pixel graphics. Pokemon graphics were very outdated compare to other ds games at the time. Sure it's a stylized choice back then. It's just become far more apparent how bad it is since coming to 3D and them trying to make it more realistic
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>>58348705
>early Gen bootlicker
Of course I bootlick early gens, those games were actually well made and fun
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>>58349809
Pick up your severed cock on the way out
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>>58349841
Both wrong. They’re both less fun than modern games and low quality even for the time
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remember that there's literally no reason to not want or like better graphics in your games and when you call other people "graphicsfags" you're only displaying your own obvious sour grapes
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>Graphicsfagging
Kill all DSfags
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>>58349854
>>58349861
except for making the game unplayable on older or weaker hardware forcing unnecessary storage bloat that cant be lowered with optimization making games run slower as engines have to carry more with higher graphics removing any hope of having a decent modding scene that doesn't reuse assets having any set of style and games passing the test of time because graphics that try to look new will always age poorly but style is immortal
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>>58349861
>>58349866
man this stable 30/60fps engine feels so good!
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>>58349866
>making the game unplayable on older or weaker hardware
somehow this is a problem even though every single game that's ever been released can't be played on hardware weaker than the console it was originally made for. You can't play Yoshi's Island on the NES, you can't play Yoshi's Island DS on the SNES etc etc. What a stupid fucking point
the rest of your post completely falls apart when you compare any pokemon game to games on the same console
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>>58348525
Pokémon za will suck, but not because of "muh windows" and "muh grafix".
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>>58349876
ah yes the amazing graphics of the worst pixel art on the ds and 2 frame sprite animations
>>58349882
hardware bloat is one of the biggest problems in the industry and is the reason why every new AAAA game is a shitty 600gb mess ans no it does not pokemon does not run on the same engine
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>>58349902
>no it does not pokemon does not run on the same engine
pictured: two Unity games
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>>58349936
now complain about the trees and grass in the bottom like you had done with SV
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>>58349949
why should I? they look miles better than the ones in SV. The entire game does, for that matter.
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>>58349957
well now you've proven just how disingenuous you are they look the same the grass is smaller but thats because in SV there are pokemon in the grass
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I hate every game made after 2010.
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>>58350005
Me but with the games made before 2010.
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>>58350005
>>58350008
every game i hate is slop every game i love is kino
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>>58348525
yeah saying za looks good feels like denial: it runs well, it doesn’t look good
it’s better-looking than sv and swsh but that bar was in hell, it’s still a switch game like them, it’s just shipping with its graphics patch for the 2 at launch unlike sv
>but old games looked bad
nah. those games were perfectly pleasant, all of them. rby are slow and plain but that describes basically every original gb game. every entry from crystal to bw2 look nice.
game freak’s best-looking games since 3d were the alola games and let’s go, bummer that the latter was for go players. maybe the soulslike will teach them some things about 3d games that transfer.
>>58349895
yeah, for all the talk about looks people care if the game is fun. still have yet to see that from za, can’t rule it being fun out before it’s even released tho.
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>>58350078
>yeah saying za looks good feels like denial: it runs well, it doesn’t look good
it runs well on switch 2 tho, we don't know how it runs on switch 1
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I don't give a shit if the game is gonna suck, faggot. I'm gonna pirate it anyway you stupid fucking retard
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>>58350166
>i don't care if the game sucks
>yeah of course i can't wait to pirate it
???????
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>>58350124
true, i assume it runs like shit there like most 3d switch games not made by nintendo or mono—maybe a bit better than usual bc of the big flat building surfaces everywhere with scarce details
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>>58348525
yeah they were only good at 2d on gameboy and for some reason they can't fucking figure out 3d. like just go back to 2d or get some fucking people who know what the fuck they're doing fucking RETARDED FAGGOTS
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>>58348525
Man 2D slop eaters will do ANYTHING to hate 3D games with actual content in them
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I'm not content with the current state of the franchise but I am so sick of the negativity, I am so sick of people pretending Palworld is a good game, and I am so sick of people dragging every other RPG into this fucking negative spiral by whining "ooga booga why doesn't Pokemon look like this?"
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>>58351290
Meh. I've just accepted that pokemon will never be good and just moved to playing other franchises. If I want to play pokemon I just play fangames or the older spinoffs. If I want to play modern mainline I just pirate. No matter how much I (or you) seethe and give valid criticism for these games there's gonna be 10 bootlickers who will buy another copy of the game just to spite you. Just move on
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>guy holding his mic
I block every channel that does this shit.
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>>58348786
>he ends the video stating he’ll buy it anyways
You can’t make this shit up.
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>>58348575
>It's stuff that they _chose_ to show us. And they're showing us glitching textures and ugly buildings which is a tell-tale sign they have not learned to program games.
Reminder the reveal trailer for Beast of Reincarnation featured several instances of noticeable frame drops so this is absolutely not a TPC or dev cycle issue
Game Freak just fucking suck
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>>58348811
>Funny how you go on and on about this stuff but can't criticize the gameplay or the story.
Probably because the game isn't out yet, dipshit
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>>58348531
You bought it anyway
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back then they actually made new sprites for every pokemon so the environments being what they were was ok. not insane but ok. there was also nothing wrong looking with it unlike the 3d stuff. now though they just reuse the same models so why does the world look so incompetent and ugly. where is the dev time even going. this should cause them to make better environments so i dont get it.
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>>58349308
ok then make a side by side pic comparison and list of the things why you find ZA graphics are more preferable than palworld in your view??
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For being set in one city you would've expected them to go all in into the details but no. Even something like window textures, which had some bulky parts standing out in 3d rendition in the previous games of the same console generation mind you, are just flat textures.

The argument that it runs smoother now with 60 fps on the switch 2 really loses a lot of weight once you realize that they're offloading the workload onto the console itself rather than optimizing their assets on top of downscaling the enviroments to just a single city of the region. It only runs flat textures, the checks for event flags, menu and ui code and whatever is about 20m ingame rendered away from the player entity and with the low-scale quality of them, it's not a surprise why it's 60 fps.

Gamefreak is cheating their way out of the laziness allegations by coatriding the switch 2 and they don't even have anything notable to show for that extra time gap they were given.
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>>58348525
Hey, it's that guy who lost any credibility he had. I sure value what he has to say.
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>>58348696
>Yall suck off Unova but I don’t know if you remember how hated they were.

Absolutely. Revisionist history like nobody's business. Gen V was raked over the coals back in the day. Sold very well, but not as high as other flagship titles. And the community reception was less than stellar, to put it as politely as possible.
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>>58348677
Wasn't Animal Crossing just a case of a freakishly perfect scenario where everyone was locked down and it was the perfect life sim game for hanging out with your friends when you couldn't be there in person?
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>>58348525
you retards will buy it anyway so it doesn't matter :)



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