All things considered, I think these are the best Pokemon games ever.
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>>58357833Rent free LMFAO
>>58357833nice fake archive
>>58357772Bump
I don't know if USUM is the best Pokemon game ever, but it sure has as much content as some of the best games in the series, such as HGSS or Platinum. I'd call it underrated, that's for sure.
>>58358248>>58357987Trying too hard op
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/e47VLVS0gtaWwKL7aUBgMQ/
>>58359616that was my only post itt
ops shilling is working i hated usum but everytime i see his threads i get tempted to restarthelp
>>58359754Based
Gen 7 was the last real gen. 8 and 9 are not canon.
>>58357772How? They butchered the story of the original SM.
>bumping from page 11
>>58357772in a vacuum, sure. i think they're mainly only hated because of the changes (and lack of changes) they did from sun and moon. my main complaint is that the pokedex is a little too big. you could introduce a whole bunch more pokemon via wormholes/island scan, but it feels slightly bloated. b2w2 with 300 seemed just right and kalos is definitely too much, though i will admit it's hard to give many pokemon that i think would be better off out of it. the only other major complaint (which somewhat contradicts my previous one) is that i think they should've added way more ultrabeasts than just the 4 (well 7). double the amount we had before and have more of them attack in the time between lusamine going off to fight necrozma and the ultra necrozma fight (would be cool if they had abilities besides beast boost too). overall i really enjoyed them (and don't have a switch lol) and i think i agree that they are the best games, or at least my personal favorite.
>>58357772>USUM>good
>>58357833Autism
>>58357772>play for 2 minutes>Hau approaches and does a half turn animation>mash A>mash A>mash A>mash A>mash A>does a half turn animation and leaves>play for 2 minutes>Lillie approaches>does a half turn animation>mash A>mash A>mash A>mash A>mash A>does a half turn animation and leaves>play for 2 minutes>Ultra recon squad approaches>repeat for 60 hoursgreat game...
>>58361467Fake because you didnt get a malasada after talking to hau
>>58361156>They butchered the story of the original SM.1. No, they didn't butcher anything2. Nobody cares about the story in Pokemon games anyway
>had to bumpKek
>>58362036people who don't care about story aren't playing gen 7 at all
>>58362057I am currently playing Ultra Moon and I'm having a great time. And I don't really care about the story. I care about how content rich the game is.
>>58362036I care about the story and they butchered it in USUM. Just cause you don't care doesn't mean no one else cares, autist.
>>58362109You missed point n1 in my post. Which is, that USUM didn't butcher anything.
USUM are the Fire Emblem Conquest of Pokemon. Gameplay faggots that think raw gameplay are all that matter
>>58362109i'm also having a great time except i'm removing all of my toenails with a pair of pliers
>>58357772The way they mangle the story is unforgivable to me
>>58361467every pokemon game is mashing A retard
This post >>58362414 was meant for >>58362351
>>58362414It did. They made Lusamine a much worse character and the story is more boring.
>>58362533That's just, like, your opinion, man. The story is not "more boring" imo.
>>58357772Looking back on them, I'd say I agree. But i'm really disappointed that USUM weren't definitive upgrades to SMThe story was worseSome people claim that it sped up the long and boring first island, but I don't know if that's true. It cut out some cutscenes, but it also added some cutscenes, and it forces you to do the shitty fucking Mantine surfThe "new areas" they added are legitimately insulting. The "pikachu hideaway" was literally just watching a pikachu stand there and repeat an animation over and over. Ultra Space was a literal hallway. I still appreciate that it's the last game before dexit, and it had Z moves and megas.
>>58362559It's not really just an opinion. It has far less stakes. Lusamine is such a mellow character compared to SM.
>>58362572it only technically had megas. they're not in the game in any meaningful capacity.
>>58362573>It's not really just an opinionYes, it is.I really like the USUM plot personally, and I'm not even someone who cares about the plot in Pokemon games that much anyway.
>>58357772>https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/vp.meta/text/Genuinely%20usum/ if they'd kept the sun moon story they coudlve been
>>58362580>they're not in the game in any meaningful capacity.Wrong.Megas are in the Battle Tree, the Battle Royal, and the Battle Agency. Basically the most important battle facilities of the game.
>>58362697Yes, you don't care about plots, which is why you don't see a problem with USUMs story. But it is objectively weaker. The fact that you don't care or liked it despite that doesn't change that.
>>58362700USUM has a better story than SM. I'd rather battle a super powerful Legendary Pokemon like Necrozma over some weird human-pokemon fusion. What were they thinking in SM?
>>58362737>objectivelyNah
>>58362740>I'd rather battle a super powerful Legendary Pokemon like Necrozma over some weird human-pokemon fusion. What were they thinking in SM?You don't fight the pokemon-human fusion, it's just another trainer/boss battle with an interesting NPC design. Ultra necrozma was kidn of nice as a one off gimmick, but I think just about anyone would have a hard time defending it as a well deisgned boss fight. It's stats are so OP that you basically have to cheese it. Or have knowledge of that fight ahead of time and tailor your team around it which is what I did.
>>58357833What causes this behavior in people here>hmm for the next year I will relentlessly spam this particular box art threadbeyond autism
>>58362755how much would you bet he's also xaarfag
>>58357772It somehow screwed up rentals
>>58357772>lillie babysitting sim>actual good content is crammed at the ass end of the game>ultra changes are a nothingburgerAnd yet, still the last real Pokemon games. Grim.
>>58362873Nice meme
>>58363183It's not a meme.
>>58362873Explain
>>58362755Being born in 2005
>the first third/enhanced versions so bad that they arguably worse than the originals
>>58364578Anyone who thinks that SM is better than USUM, is retarded.Also, the case of USUM is very similar to the case of BW2, where storyfags will try to convince you that BW1 is better than BW2 because it has a better story. Even though BW2 is superior in every other aspect.But like I said, these people are retarded. Same goes for SM vs USUM.USUM is one of the best Pokemon games.
Here's everything that USUM added over SM:>Battle Agency>Alola Photo Club>Mantine Surfing>Ultra Warp Ride>Kantonian Gym>Move Tutors >New areas (4 new beaches, Sandy Cave, Ultra Wormhole Worlds, Ultra Megalopolis, vastly expanded Mount Lanakila, etc)>New Pokémon>New Z-Moves>All Megas obtainable in-game>Rainbow Rocket episode>100+ new side questsYet some people have the guts to say>B-b-but SM has a better story!First of all, nobody cares about the story in Pokemon games. And second, USUM actually improved SM's story, because Lusamine fusing with Nihilego was just stupid and over the top. Ultra Necrozma is a much better battle
>>58364578The fact they stopped doing them after that really says a lot kek