ovo>Friend ID Survey: https://forms.gle/AZyQQ2SfGeCKjXNh9>Friend ID Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit?usp=sharing>Tournament results/decklists: https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET>Deck Builder: https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder>Datamines, etc.: https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en>Luck calculator: https://porygonthree.github.io/ptcgp-luck-calculator/>Advanced Card search: https://pocket.limitlesstcg.com/advanced>Deluxe Pack: ex card list: https://www.pokemon-zone.com/sets/a4b//vp/ battle passwords to battle with other Anons (consider writing a post to recruit players)>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex): vpnx>meta decks or high level play: vpmeta>/vp/ anything: vpPrevious: >>58345911
Who will reign supreme?
Literally opened nearly 30 promo packs and not ONE FUCKING RAICHU!!!! THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!
>>58358822for me?mega blaziken ex / flareon ex / sylveon ex
>>58358822mega altaria is the only actually good card herei say this with 100% confidence, mega blaziken will be low tier at absolute best
>>58358822Altaria Morty control will rape
>>58358836oh yeah, and mega gyarados is essentially unusable because it's barely even a sidegrade from regular gyara ex since the damage is the same and that effect is comically useless, but it gives up 3 points instead of 2.
>>58358822Altaria > Blaziken >>>>>> Gyarados
>>58358822my nigga mega aerodactyl ex will course correct what aerodactyl ex set out to do and prevent evolution of all kinds while it is in the active zone
>>58358823In 10 packs I got 4 Raichus and 0 Pikachus...
>>58358823>>58358866Lmao
>>58358822Entei, Magby and Blaziken will be the best deck in the game. Blaziken 1 shots all current meta decks.
>>58358891>lead magby>if it gets killed, you might as well not have entei because you already gave up a point and now will lose if entei dies (only 140 hp btw)>lead entei>magby is now a dead card because you can't risk swapping it out and letting magby die and then having entei be cyrus'd for gamethat deck sucks
>>58358891
>>58358916Entei and Magby dying wont matter because Blaziken is the only mon that matters. Entei can attack and be a shield then you focus on Blaziken to clean up
>>58358919this bird will burn to death before killing blaziken
>>58358919It still gets burned.
>>58358924if you use magby and it dies, then you CANNOT use entei whatsoever because it gives up another 2 points and then you lose without being able to use blaziken. if you lead entei and then later draw magby, switching entei out for magby is just about the worst play possible because it will give up a point and then entei will get cyrus'd and you lose.this is very basic math, anon. 1 + 2 = 3.
>>58358919Worst case burn will kill it in 3 turns but the deck I suggest with Magby and Entei wont obviously be definitive since there may be new non EX fire cards that can fit in
>>58358928>>58358929>>58358942>burn chip will kill it so the bird isn't a problem!because that worked so well for incineroar decks right
>>58358955thank god they're not the same card!
>>58358955its just an option. Also there will be other non EX card you can fill in the deck instead of Entei
>pulled 2 FA Fetch'd in a rowwhat deck do I use these in
>>58358962>incineroar's options against oricorio: do no damage and burn it>blaziken's options against oricorio: do no damage and burn it (but somehow this is different this time!)hmm
>>58358962>both fire type>both ex cards>both stage 2>both do damage to funnybird via burn chipexplain to me how they're different in this situation, actually? other than blaziken being worth 3 points i mean.
>>58358966210hp and doesn't need to hurt itself to be viable, yes.
>>58358974>>58358975
>>58358975but it doesn't need to hurt itself to do damage to oricorio, which is what we're talking about right nowdid you already forget this conversation was about oricorio shitting on incineroar and thus shitting on blaziken for the exact same reasons?are all blazikenfags this retarded?
>>58358983Most Oricorio decks these days aren't even running energy for it. It only exists to stall for a few turns.
>>58358983>are all _____fags this retardedyesthis general is full of absolute mongoloids who froth at the mouth when their favorite pokemon gets a card and refuse to believe that it won't be the literal best card in the gamein the lead-up to WSS the thread was flooded with autistic eeveefags saying umbreon ex was going to break the entire game and be unstoppable and look how that turned out
>>58358965Works for almost any deck thatmight have problems killing the babies turn 1. Not really recommended but it can be useful.Think something like Kartana on buzzwhole decks. Just something to do good damage early on.
>>58358990and that helps your case how exactly"oh i'll just give my opponent a few free turns what could possibly go wrong"lmao
>>58358822altaria, and it's not even close. you have sylveon/altaria/giratina already waiting to break the game over its knee, tier 0 deck by today's standards and the set hasn't even dropped yet. blaziken copers have to resort to shit like "what if there's really good mega support cards?" as if the better megas won't make better use of them, and literally nobody thinks gyarados will even be playable.
>>58358983blaziken can survive 4 attacks and 4x20 kills oricorio, incineroar can't do that
>>58359009>incineroar deck>not running lilliethe point isn't that oricorio 1v1s the thing all by itself, it's that you have to sit there with your dick in your hand for a few turns while they get to set up their own heavy hitter and then get the first hit on incineroar which is essentially ggblaziken will be no different in this regard, especially with the higher power level of megasyou chip down oricorio, then they send in their own fat fuck mega, swing for 150 into blaziken, and you just lost
>>58359017you say this as if it was an incineroar/blaziken only thing. Blaziken has more hp and less retreat cost so he'll do better than incineroar in the same position, that's it.
>>58359044it's worse for blaziken than for incineroar because it's worth 3 points and cyrus exists so it'll actually do worseif your blaziken takes chip damage from oricorio, you're liable to instantly lose the game after trying to retreat blazikenother types have better options for dealing with oricorio, but fire is very much fucked in that regardyour best options are torkoal or komala, neither of which are mons you want to have stuck in the frontmaybe there'll be a non-mega blaziken at some point that can be splashed in to check funnybird but until then it's just not going to be a good deck
>>58359071the cyrus thing is true for every mega and even if blaziken falls to 160hp it's hardly an "instantly lose".
Im so fucking scared
>>58359096Solgaleo for you.
>>58359096those 2 hourglasses look mighty fine
>>58359096grenigger
>>58359103>>58359106>>58359108I will NOT be dropping pocket yet
>>58358823>>58358872Just opened another 5 packs. I fucking give up
>>58359088the point is that other megas have better options anonmega altaria will be run with sylveon ex so it'll have the easy option of using baby espeon to deal with birdbut if you're running magby/entei ex/blaziken ex your only option is to chip it down with blaziken, if you're running a nonex in addition to those cards you're now making that much less consistent to actually be able to play blaziken, and it's not like entei can carry the game by itself if you don't draw into blaziken fast enoughit just doesn't work
>>58358822greninja oricorio and luxray oricorio will rape mega decks btwprepare your anus for volkner's big fat electric cock
>>58358822Faggot Nigger Bitch Cunt Giratina
>>58359117we have the same seed, i cant pull him either
>>58358822When was this announced
>>583593133 months ago. Megas will be the 1 year Anni Pack release and the beginning of the B series for packs till the following year which will move onto the C series
>>58359330Ah ok, i started a month ago.
>They use Mars>I get a better handheh
I'm saving all my hourglasses for mega. I want this promo crap to be over. I'm planning on dumping all my hourglasses into mega when it comes out and then quitting the game for good lol
I think my account is bugged, i spent 5 event stamina this morning and 5 just now and havent opened a single raichu ex
>>58359117>>58359623Git gud
>>58359924I hate you so fucking much
>>58359924Good job anon
>>58358693>only time I ever flip heads is to go first
Are these new EX packs a scam or should I roll on them?
>>58360449If you are a new player they will be your only chance to catch up
>>58360449I only use my free packs, but I did do a couple of 10 pulls at the start of the month. Go for it if you're new or if you really care about the new card artworks. If you aren't then, just wait for b series to introduce megas I guess.
>>58360449you'd be dumb not to roll on it. spending glasses? that's up to you, but not spending your daily pulls on it is a braindead move.
>>58360469Unless you're missing a bunch of ex cards or REALLY want a chance at 2* Oak, Lusamine, or Lillie, there's no point in even doing it for daily packs.
>>58360507what else would you be spending your daily packs on? stacking pack points for a 2* that will always be available? chasing a regular card you could easily just trade for?
missed opportunity to make this limited time set be nothing but promo cards from the previous drop events
>>58360546Read my post again. All this set has are chase cards you probably won't even get.
I haven't even opened 20 packs of this set, but I've already got 3-4 Guzzlords and almost just got an entire pack of dupes...
>>58360575yeah, and what do other sets have? chase cards you probably won't even get? cards you could just trade for if you really wanted them?
god damn fucking shit
>>58360575it also has the limited-time-only foil cards that will be a pain in the dick to trade for if you don't have equally limited-time-only cards to trade. i myself want two copies of magneton and magnezone since neither of them have special versions besides the fugly shinies, and i don't expect people will just be trading relevant 3-diamonds with a rare skin for a random dupe latios or whatever.if you avoid pulling the set at all, you're just not going to be able to get those cards. and i'd rather delay my 2* iono by a few weeks than be permanently locked out of cards i also want.
>4 floragato>4 crawdaunt>0 farfetch'd>0 greninja>0 gardevoir>0 slurpuff
Still no Pikachu...
>>58360575Same for all the other sets except there are fewer
If you use Mars or Red Card you are NOT getting a Thanks
>Play at night>nothing but chinks playing gren/sui>play during the day>westerners playing a variety of decks from poison, to fighting, electric, etclol asians really are bugs
>>58361022yeah every time I get hit with one it's literally a game over, really lame design
>>58361027>playing right now>last three decks i faced were raichu ex/alola raichu ex, pichu/oricorio/flareon ex, and ramp chompi dunno anon things seem fine over here in randbats
If you made me get two points before sending out your EX, don't expect me to give you a Thanks, you gaping mangina
Finally able to (shiny) flair out all my shiny darkrai and giratina. This is the only way to play (shiny) darktina now
God man i usually enjoy grinding ranked but i cant do it for the 2nd month in a row. I taped out after reaching masters. I usually pace myself to reach 1700 atleast.
>>58361160ugly cards. The normals are much better.
>>58361218i never go past the bottom of masters. it's pointless and an exercise in frustration when i would rather play meme decks like solgaleo/johto beasts in unranked.
>>58361231Not entirely, i get to 1700 because it lets you start at ub4 rather than 3. I like this game but not enough to grind the same meta twice. The new raichu is bait its just worse than alolan raichu
any poliwrath ex brew? I want to use my rainbow one so bad :(
>>58361252mantyke/sylveon/poliwrath with only fighting energy is your best option. do note, however, that this is basically the exact same deck dragonite ex uses (pichu/sylveon/dragonite) but objectively worse since poliwrath ex does less damage, and is also more vulnerable to funnybird since baby poliwrath sucks absolute dick and shouldn't be run while politoed cannot oneshot it. still, if you want to use poliwrath then it's the best thing you could possibly be doing with it.
>>58358823When can we have promo trading goddamn it
>>58360632I would cry
why is every donphan ex card so fucking ugly? Why does the pokemon company hate johto so much?
Got the new 2* Lunala from WP so might as well try this again.
>>58358822Cursola
This fuckin nigger game is so rigged hope the devs die on fuckin aids piece of shit cancer filled with bots. You que up with something old like Pikachu ex you face a mirror matchup and you get stomped with his perfect draw and play despite red cards
>>58361741it'd be funny if it gets to the point people started running typhlosion specifically to deal with Cursola
>>58361797>NOOO MY DISWUPTIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO GIB ME FWEE WINS!!!!!Serves you right actually neck yourself
>>58361909Kys bitch nigger reddit faggot, cock suckers like you eat every plate of shit, nintenyear old premature rape victim
>corporate bootlickers ittHoly fuckin cringe you guys are miserable
>>58361913watch your language lil pup
>>58361913Woo lad got a live one boys
>>58361797You would have won if you didn't use Red Card :)
>Put oricorio in the deck>Suddenly match making becomes rigged and instead of suicune and Darkrai players I get random stuff + basic oricorio sniper
>>58361938>Random stuff + random sniperClassic nigger development. Cards you never seen before played together
>>58361968Pocket sisters our response?
>>58361968>Noo this deck is meta it won the brown minority 100$ tournament in Latin America
>>58361968stop noticing
Fucked and sucked that japanese 12 year old with my darkrai. Wabaam 20 DMG from the aura in that tight asshole and then bada bing Bada boom boom pow 80 DMG in his wet mouth
>>58362080
what the fuck went wrong with the ho oh and lugia immersives? Why are they so ugly?
>>58361797>"Man, fuck Suicune. Going to switch to Electric deck.">Immediately match up with the only nigger still using Fighting in ranked>>58362386Quite literally rushed jobs. The artist had to probably finish both of them within like a week and a half or so, and then the rest of the team had to slap it lazily onto the pre-existing animation. They honestly should have just changed Ho-Oh, Lugia looked great in the old version but they were too stubborn to flat out admit Ho-Oh was the problem and didn't want to put a spotlight on it. So both were fucking changed. Since the same artist worked on both of them, that means literally half the resources dedicated to each than if she was just given the week and a half to exclusively fix Ho-oh. Insane dowgrade from this for no reason other than excessive Japanese shame and stubbornness. Had it not have been for people tarnishing Sie Nanahara's name over something not even in her control, they wouldn't have even gone as far as to admit that they personally fucked up as an org.
>>58361968This is the closest Pocket has to real deck building.
>>58362729>something not even in her controlthe only way ho-oh could have ended up like it did is if they told her "just trace over this" and she did soyou're not seriously falling for that shitty attempt to save face are you
>>58361968literally the 7th most popular deck right now schizo
I know it was expected for this anniversary booster pack to stall the meta, but the suicune meta was probably the worst time to stall it.
>>58362957No meta since ga has been particularly fun to play in
>>58362802Why do you think this isn't what happened? She's a great artist who clearly doesn't need to copy anything; and immersives are different from normal arts because they require a whole external team outside of the artists themselves to bring to life. So it makes sense from an organizational perspective to have the exact framing of the artwork at hand so that the teams can work in parallel instead of being bottlenecked by each other. Coupled with the fact that TPC gains absolutely nothing by sticking their neck out for a contracted artist - if anything they would benefit greatly and have more than legally sound ground to terminate their relationship with said artist and even sue for reputational damages they caused the company. Instead they doubled down and hired her for the redraws. They were hesitant to dive deeper into the statement of what happened until specifically the heat started getting hard on the artist herself, so they obviously felt they had to elaborate more out of obligation so put a second statement out when they didn't need to if it was truly the artist's fault.Stop thinking from the perspective of a teenager on twitter who's never worked a job before and start thinking from the perspective of a corporation that has revenue to protect.
This game is unplayable if you don't open or draw professors
>>58361909NTA, but I did get a free win in a mirror match today thanks to Mars. My opponent played his Red Card too early so I had plenty of time to recover.
>>58363010GA and MI were fucking miserable and I don't care what anyone has to say. I have never had such a bad time with the game. You can probably manage to give yourself a much worse time if you've devoted your entire pvp experience to master ball climbing every month post ranked, but the card pool we had then and the disparity of what dominated it was much lamer than any fotm threat we've had to deal with since.
>>58363057>i was just following orders when i plagiarized this guy's art, woe is me!anon, don't be retarded. if their intent was to just gave her the reference art and then have her trace over it exactly, why did they even need her in the first place? an intern could have done the same job.
th-thanks
Yooo
>>58363109How would she know it was stolen artwork? She improved the proportion on the head/talons/body so it's not like she literally just traced it 1/1. If you don't can't see the difference, it's understandable why you'd assume an intern could do the same .She's not going to just disobey them if they say they want her to make that drawing better. It's possible that even other immersive are just straight up traces/redraws of what they assumed to be entirely internal sketches and images.We don't know the full details, but the point is there's really no reason for them to go out of their way to protect a contracted artist if they were wronged by them. Given the response, it's more likely the opposite - they wronged the artist. Unless you can come up with a reason why they wouldn't just cut ties completely with her. There can be an argument made that as a PR issue they didn't want to publicly execute her, but they went beyond just covering up the problem and straight up publicly exonerated her AND re-hired her. I'm curious, have you worked a corporate job before? It should be very apparent from someone who has that upper management makes stupid "cost saving" decisions all the time that end up affecting the teams below them in ways that actually increase costs when they fuck up. When looking at all the evidence presented and the artist's previous works, I think it's very clear someone managing the art team thought they found an efficient method to save time and money but fucked up. The contracted artists are just doing what they're paid to do, and if she really did fuck up then TCP has no reason to stick their neck out for her and damage their own reputation by taking the fall for her literally scamming them.
why is >>58363174 white knighting so hard for some jap bitch who stole art? she's not gonna fuck you bro
>>58363113ungrateful fuck you're getting the hourglasses next time
>>58363217i have like 5 copies of farfetch'd i would unironically rather have had the glasses
Now that i think about it, the new packs are kind of a scam no? Why is it only 4 cards lol. You spend 12 hourglasses for less cards? Sure an ex is guaranteed but the pack is limited and doesnt actually have anything new.
>>58363232stupid gaijin waste your money on fomo packs or else
>>58363213I don't personally care about the artist or TCP. I just hate seeing dumb kids who aren't 18 so shouldn't be posting here spread conspiracy theories based on their lack of understanding of how the world works outside of high school. Managers are retarded, organizations are large, and companies take their public images very seriously if they hope to remain successful and profitable. The more people understand this, the less likely they will be to fall for dumb propaganda pitting the average waggie against one another. A freelance artist has no reason to be protected as hard by the company unless they truly fucked up and want to ensure they don't burn bridges with any of their other talent present or future. TCP did good here, I don't mind giving them credit all things considered when they actually admit they fucked up instead of pinning the blame on an external source. I can assure you that internally they were sweating bullets and hoping the first statement would be enough, that's why they didn't even release the second one in any language other than Japanese - where the artist's reputation matters the most since that's their future job opportunities at stake.
>>58363232It's a good f2p pack and it's a good trap for faggot whales to spend on. Impressive business decision, literally getting dumb cunts to pay for the same thing twice.
>>58363174let's be honest with ourselves here. what's more likely? an artist resorting to plagiarism under time crunch, or a contrived series of events that just so happen to line up to exonerate that artist of any blame?on the one hand you have>an intern ripped some art from twitter>said art made its way through the corporate chain to the artist without anyone ever noticing the signature or going "why are there a dozen pokemon here if this was an internal piece made solely as a ho-oh reference?">the technical team working on the immersive animations somehow can't just put a filter over the existing ho-oh piece that was supposedly made internally, they need another artist to trace it first for some unexplained reason>the artist herself is a retard who isn't smart enough to realize she's being asked to directly plagiarize fanartand on the other you have>she stole art
>>58363266>a freelance artist has no reason to be protected by the company unless they truly fucked upor she's fucking one of the higher-ups as women so often do
can someone trade Shiny Ivysaur?
>>58363296shinies can't be traded. sorry bro.
>>58363279These are all conspiracy scenarios you've made up, we don't know how that art got saved internally or used as reference. The artist herself wouldn't be able to tell it was stolen artwork given to her from her literal employer who owns said IP - and other pokemon being present in the piece surely doesn't discredit the idea of it being a scrapped internal illustration for some other project. Let's break down the other scenario for you.>The artist stole art under crunch>TCP got word of it>They released TWO statements protecting the artist publicly and taking the blame themselves>They then re-hired the artist who burned them and actually did NOT do what she was paid for, thereby scamming them>They introduced even MORE crunchtime on her and the extended art team despite that allegedly being the issue in the first place>Their other option would be to put out a single statement and hire a different artist all together, completely cutting ties with one that severely damaged their reputation and integrity for a game who's primary selling point is artAgain, stop thinking like a retarded teenager. There's more at stake than an artist's feelings here. It's a fucking business.
Nearly went undefeated into masterballThis is the only deck that doesn't suck in this rng low skill game
>>58363299oh damn. guess I have to keep opening celestial guardians then. been doing so for a month and still no Ivy :/
why does >>58363317 keep simping so hard? she's still not gonna fuck you bro
>>58363291She'd have to be fucking the president of TCP and/or Creature's Inc for that level of coverup. The org is too big for this, and Pokemon Pocket is only a small drop in the larger organization. Someone higher up wants answers and a post-mortem, and dumb shit like that is pretty hard to get away with once it goes further up the chain of command. Reminder you have to be over 18 to post here.
>>58363317>artists can do no wrong>especially if they're women because women can also do no wrong>it's always the corporation's fault>the possibility of an artist just being a piece of shit and stealing art is zero>plagiarism has never happened in a TCG before>in fact plagiarism has never happened before period>i am very smart
I got 2/3 two stars card today in WP.
what made >>58363348 keep repeating "you have to be 18 to post here" in every post like a broken record? does he really think that's some kind of catch-all instant win line? is he underage himself?
>>58363353Never said any of that. Thanks for projecting.
>>58363317Do you not see how in the scenario that covers the artists ass, it requires the stupidity and/or complicity of dozens of people to reach the final point, while in the other, it takes a single person making a stupid decision? Which is more likely, retard? The obvious answer is it looks like shit that they hired a lazy plagiarist and would also discourage future freelancers to work with them if they know they'll be publicly burned for fucking up. Having to do entirely new pieces in a week, likely for free, but saving public face is a very Japanese way of doing things.
>>58363348if this "coverup" was so immensely damaging to the brand, why wouldn't they just pawn off the blame on the artist? there's literally zero reason to not do this regardless of whether or not she actually did it.unless, of course, she IS actually using her pussy as a shield.
Not sure if I should use the free 2 week premium pass on the ex packs...I like the dust but I already have everything from previous packs. I'd like to use Lillie's premium items as an excuse to do so, but I honestly just like the coin...the playmat and backdrop art looks weird, like slop or some shit...which it sucks because I like her.
>who should we have do the art for the new immersives?>let's get sie nanahara, an artist (allegedly) responsible for beautiful cards like picrel>sounds good, what should we have her do for the ho-oh piece?>let's just have her lazily trace over some shitty art we ripped from twitter to save money>good idea! i love spending money to have artists re-do art we stole to save money in the first place!???
>>58363394That art work looks like modern One Piece (it's shit)
>>58363360Because the arguments being made are clearly coming from people who haven't worked an actual job outside of McDonalds before. Either underage or inexperienced, either way they don't have very valuable input. >>58363365>it requires the stupidity and/or complicity of dozens of people to reach the final pointNo, just one person; the one who gave the reference. Everyone else is just doing a job, it's not that deep. What reason would a freelance artist have to cross reference a source/task given to them OFFICIALLY by TCP? In retrospect it looks obvious, but there's no reason to suspect TCP would give you fanart to redraw as a job. >>58363370Because the other side of that coin is they not only burn their bridges with that artist, who they obviously value and want to keep working with given their past relationship with her, but also damages their integrity with other artists present and future. Not only that, but they actually cause harm to the career of said artist and give her grounds to seek legal action for defamation which would be an even larger scandal since that'd be made public unless handled privately outside of court which they almost certainly don't want to deal with. If they fuck her over when she did no wrong, it's more likely to blow up in their face in a much more impactful way than just ripping off the bandage and fixing their mistake rightfully.>>58363394Immersives are different from the regular illustrations because of the animations. So they involve teams larger than just the artist, and most likely those teams are working on the animation before the art is completed. So you're comparing entirely different pipelines. The physical TCG likely has different time requirements as well. Look at every single immersive - you'll see most of them actually lean into the stylization of the artists and are instead more sanitized "official" on-model styled artworks.
>>58363365you bring up a good point there. if they made it out to be her fault, and she made a big stink about it and said it was reference material they provided, that would indeed discourage future artists from taking commissions from them if they knew they could be thrown under the bus like that.as the guy simping super hard for her said, it's all about keeping the business going. the public moves on to the next happening in a week, but the people you need to produce the artwork won't forget.
>>58363425you're talking yourself in circles, dude. get your story straight before replying next time.
uh oh melty
>>58363425>you'll see most of them actually lean into the stylizationMost of them don't*Also replace TCP with TPC, that's my brain wanting to say IP/TCP whenever I see those 3 characters put together.>>58363452Happy to elaborate any point you're confused on. I don't think there are any contradictions in my statement. I'm a professional artist myself who works freelance for companies so maybe I'm just assuming more people are knowledgeable on this stuff than I give them credit for. But these kinds of situations are certainly not exclusive to art related positions so it should be general knowledge for anyone who's worked corporate. There's rarely malice in these kinds of scenarios, just a bunch of people with inflated salaries making dumb decisions for the sake of cutting costs that affect those under them.
>>58363476That being said, I will say that currently the trend for those hiring me is literally AI genning slop and telling me to make something "like this." Which at least gives me something more to work with than a stick figure sketch, but it comes at the cost of restricting my artistic freedom to make something probably better than what they're envisioning. Regardless, it's just an anecdote - but certain jobs really do for the sake of efficiency try to lessen the load on artists by preparing references as close to the finished product as possible even if it results in less quality because that's a tradeoff they're willing to make in their cost analysis.
>>58363425what reason would TPC have to hire and pay an (allegedly) skilled and thus expensive artist to simply trace art they stole in the first place? assuming she's capable of actually drawing herself, she wouldn't directly trace it unless specifically asked to, which begs the question of why they would spend money and time to get her to do it instead of just using the stolen art wholesale. it's not as if they had her re-do the piece, it's 1-1 traced.the "big corpo is in the wrong" narrative falls apart because two contradicting statements have to be true:>TPC is willing to steal art from fans to save chump change on reference materials>TPC is willing to spend lots of money on artists to do literally nothing but trace over reference materials given to them by TPCboth of these are very believable, but they can't both be true.
>>58363524>what reason would TPC have to hire and pay an (allegedly) skilled and thus expensive artist to simply trace art they stole in the first place?Because it's not exclusively her project. There are others involved with the animation process of it who presumably were also working from the same image when storyboarding and such. Immersives are unique in this, we don't actually know the full process behind how they do these. The problem with going down this path is that you can do nothing but speculate. We know for sure the artist isn't in charge of animating the immersives, but we don't know how the workload for those are handled as a result of the larger scope. Do they do this with all immersives? Was this a specific scenario where they needed to save time because they were behind schedule? Did they really like the framing of that Ho-oh in particular but wanted a Lugia to go with it who wasn't included in the OG illustration but they needed to retain consistency? There are a lot of possibilities but we just don't have the information to draw conclusions other than the fact that the project is much larger than just a single artist; as opposed to other TCG arts where the illustrator just needs to focus solely on making a good image in a vacuum. >TPC is willing to steal art from fans to save chump change on reference materialsProbably not intentional. The person giving the reference almost certainly didn't realize themselves because it's something that would be very easy to get called out on given how large Pokemon is as a brand. And there are even leaked internal documents where the company has straight up scrapped Pokemon designs for being too close to fanworks, so it's definitely something they are conscious of and try to avoid. We don't know the specifics here.
just destroyed a stokezard with that brew, not good at all but very fun to play with.
>>58363524>>58363615>TPC is willing to spend lots of money on artists to do literally nothing but trace over reference materials given to them by TPCIt's actually not a 1-1 trace, though close. The Lugia also seems entirely unique (though for all we know that was also based on an internal reference provided). But even still, it's smart to get an artist to recreate two different images from different sources if they're going to be used in the same grand piece for the sake of consistency rather than just photoshopping both of them into the same frame.If you're thinking of the card individually in a vacuum, without the animation and Lugia portion of it, you're missing key context. Lugia and Ho-Oh were actually ONE single large illustration. All the immersives are. But that large illustration needs to also be adapted into an animation, which the original artist certainly has no part in.So if you have one image of Ho-oh and one image of Lugia that are in different styles and maybe even different levels of completion, it makes sense to have an artist bring them together coherently than...hiring an intern to photoshop them, I guess is the assumed other choice here?
>>58363270>>58363251I didn’t spend an hourglass on the packs no need to yell at me
>>58363622Grats :)
>>58363629i can tell you right now that taking the original ho-oh and throwing a couple photoship filters over it would produce a near-identical image to the one by nanahara. it's not meaningfully different in any way. the drawn parts are just assets slapped into whatever program the animation team uses to animate the immersives, therefore there is no reason to have an artist re-do an existing asset as it's the animation team's job to make everything fit together anyway.
>>58361797If they can rig it, they will rig it.
>>58358919It's not perfect, but I run Blacephalon in my Entei/Magby/Infernape deck, and it's good for nuking at least one of those faggot cheer birds when Lusamine is played. I'd imagine you can do the same with a Blaziken deck, and bring out Blaziken for cleanup once Magby and Blacephalon bite it to burn-spread.
>>58363683at that point i have to question why you're running entei at all. the draw power is cool but if your gameplan is magby > blacephalon > blaziken then entei just doesn't really fit in. without entei you're already looking at just 4 free slots for supporters, if you add entei you're down to just 2. that leaves basically no room for shit like red, cyrus, lillie, sabrina, etc.
Faggot Nigger Bitch Cunt Giratina
>>58358822BLAZIKEN
>>58363213She stole from some roach so it's justified. All roaches are thieves.
>>58363232I don't spend hourglasses though
>>58363320What's the strategy? do you want to start with darkrai?
>>58363919You start with this!
>>58364188I guess it has a use
>play random match instead of ranked>just instantly concede and go next every time it's suicune slopdamn it feels good to not have to play that autismfest out. you rankedfags really are suffering for absolutely no reason.
>>58364348Is this your cope for being a bad player or something? I get to master in the first two days using the meta then have fun with random decks for the rest of the month.
>>58364381what are the rewards for getting to master?
>>58364381>i spend two days not having fun every month so i can get $1 worth of extra glasses and an emblem not a single soul will ever care that i havethis isn't the own you think it is, pal.
>>58363717Draw power, mainly, but the biggest reason is I just think Entei's a cool Pokemon. He's bought me some good successes.
>>58364381>anon implies that there is a single iota of skill in this coinflip gambling solitaire gamelol? you think you're skilled for looking up a decklist for suigren or darktina?
Gimmie Oak gimmie gimmie gimmie
>>58364419if you think this game takes no skill I hope you never touch mahjong lmao. Luck manipulation might not be your thing, maybe stick to collecting the pretty cards.
>>58364448>mahjong player>absolute dumbest motherfucker in whatever room he's inevery single time kek
>>58364448Master Ball is just a matter of time, anyone can hit it eventually.
>>58364474you underestimate how many drooling retards play this game
>>58364474yeah you can hit mb with a sub 30% winrate lmaoit means absolutely nothing other than "i wasted my own time playing against a bajillion metaslop faggots"
>>58364482I'm aware that people spend money to buy packs.
>>58358823I kept getting Mimikyu and gave up
>>58358823it took me 60 packs to get both my copies of ultra necrozma during that eventyou're small time
>>58358822Oricorio, as usual.
>>58364616>suicune + soi lion ??????
>>58364616i've been playing that exact deck and had no issues with funnybird>>58364870it's a wall for your cosmog that passively draws cards just for existing and retreats for free with solgaleobasically a better shiinotic since it can draw cards immediately and doesn't require a stage 1
>>58364616>Soivally player also runs OricorioI can hear your queer lisp through your post.
>>58364884Huh, that's something. But why not run magearna for ori or do you just auto concede? I don't do much ranked desu so idk what people are cooking nowadays
>>58364907Blame the meta, not me. I used this deck specifically to counter the meta and got from UB2 to MB with almost 70% WR.
since this set is temporary, does that mean the missions and pack points will disappear as well?
I wish Mew was good.
>>58365026i run magearna as a one-off. dunno if other people do, but it seems like a no-brainer.
WP was nice to me again todayfirst dupe 2* since i pulled two copies of pidgeot back in MIi love lunala so this is great
I'm gonna say it...babies are overpowered, they should at least have a retreat cost
>>58365332/tcgp/ during the lead-up to WSS>babies are stupid and weak, who the fuck would give up a free point like that?/tcgp/ now>babies are overpowered
>>58365243I feel like it's still "ok" but won't ever be meta+Ramped by anything +Can counter ohko lots of things+Unique supporter-130 HP -Not good vs decks that don't have strong attackers
nice
>>58365364mew is bad because it's too easy to just blank it. you can ramp mew all you want, but if the other guy leaves a weak-ass basic up front while building the bench, what can you actually do in repsonse? you can't actually apply any pressure with that ramp you just did.
>>58365364Genome Hacking only really benefits against stuff that need 4+ energies. Most times you'll just be overpaying to not kill something.
>>58365332It’s like poetry, it rhymes
>>58365332That is until you open 1 with no other basic pokemon, or you get one as a completely dead draw
>>58365410yeah, the crux of the issue is really just that the meta isn't about big niggas that can oneshot themselves anymore. when stormzard and mewtwo were still seeing play, mew was a nice tech option. these days the only mon around that actually oneshots itself without assistance from supporters is dragonite.
>>58365448Lugia can, too. But he's very similar to Dragonite.
>>58365457genuinely forgot about lugia since i haven't seen it in a game since the start of WSS. feels like everybody moved on from ho-oh/lugia to either ho-oh/snorlax or pichu/dragonite.but you're right, lugia does it too.
>Mirror match>Lose solely cause they got to go secondThey need to make it so winning the coin flip lets you choose if you go first or second, I lose so much because I """"""win""""" the coin toss
>>58365448This desuIf we go back to an ohko meta then mew might see play again
>>58365472shoulda used a baby, zeraora, giratina, stokezard, etc. buster
>>58365472this is why i only play decks that can function regardless of whether they win the coin tossi would rather lose because i didn't draw the cards i need than lose before i even see my opening hand
>>58365492Like what
>>58365472No just make it so the turn 1 player can attach energy but cant attack (sorry Tyrogue)
>They open with Suicine active and frog benched>Always evolve to gren on their second turn>Always have a mars/red card on second turnThis slop game literally just plays the same over and over
>>58365448Giratina one shots itself if it attacks before Mew.
>>58365544Real talk, bros; How am I supposed to play this game without getting an erection?
>>58365629You're notI play one handed
>>58365629>be pokefucker>make decks consisting entirely of pokemon i wanna fuck like sylveon/giratina/lunala>never once get a boner playing the gamei think you might be the problem bro
>>58365544Dark Lusamine turns me on so much
>>58365665she's at least twice as hot as regular lusameme but nobody ever draws porn of hersad
>>58365683>Twice as hot >20/10
>>58365386>WunderwhalBecause maybeeee
>>58365683It's even hard to generate it
>>58365771that's because AI simply cannot into unusual body types
