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>every new team member is an adventure in and of itself
GOD I fucking love this game.
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genwar thread
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>>58379591
It'll inevitably turn into one, but really I just wanna gush about HGSS.
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>>58379594
if it's "just like clockwork" than you admit it's a genwar thread. thanks for playing
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>>58379594
>incite genwar thread
>someone points out it's a genwar thread
>AAIIIEEEEE JANNY-SAHIB DO THE NEEDFUL
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>>58379607
That guy's not OP, I am. See also >>58379600
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>>58379604
Based ESL retard
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>7 replies
>not a single one adding to the topic in OP
god I fucking hate 2025 /vp/
>>58379582
Pokeathlon is underrated for being the best minigame collection in the mainline franchise. X and Y's EV training minigames come to mind as the second most fun gameplay-wise whereas Pokestar studios was the most fun to read
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>>every new team member is an adventure in and of itself
This literally doesn't mean anything.
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>>58379677
Yes it does. You have to go off the beaten path to catch a lot of Pokemon, whereas other games usually just have you find them along the way as you go from gym to gym. Taking hidden paths through Union Cave to get Xatu and Lapras immediately comes to mind
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>>58379670
XY's minigames were beyond awful. They got boring after the first time, THAT'S how bad they were. A pale imitation of perfection (HGSS).
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>>58379684
It's just a normal dungeon. Same as every other game.
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>>58379707
It is different though, because you have to take an alternate path through it to get certain Pokemon
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>>58379582
It's okay OP, I know what you mean.
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>>58379737
Just like in every other Pokemon game.
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>>58379739
Sure, there's one or two Pokemon like this in most games. HGSS however has more than any other
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>>58379745
No it doesn't, also OP clearly says every new team member and that was clearly debunked.
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>>58379670
>not a single one adding to the topic in OP
what the fuck else is there to add, it's a 16 year old game and it's been shilled and shat on in equal measure, there's nothing else to discuss
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>>58379748
Obviously "every" is an exaggeration but there's a lot more Pokemon in Johto that you have to go out of the way and explore if you want to use than there is in other regions, and I personally really like that about it. That's what I mean.
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>>58379753
So it literally doesn't mean anything.
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>>58379759
If you don't get any meaning out of it, that's on you man.
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>>58379766
It's a lie and false premise so it doesn't mean anything.
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>>58379768
I mean it's objectively not but you're welcome to believe it is.
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>>58379773
Yes it's not true, and i called it out. No idea why you are claiming its true and sperging out.
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>>58379779
I'd love to hear an argument as to why you believe it's not true.
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>>58379782
You said it yourself.
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>>58379790
Did I? All I've really said is that a lot of Johto Pokemon are off the beaten path compared to other games, and thus HGSS (and GSC for that matter) incentivises the player to explore in order to build their team, and that I personally like that about it.
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>>58379797
>lot of
So not all. Thank you for agreeing with me.
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>>58379799
I mean sure, if you want to be pedantic. It was a hyperbole to express how much I love HGSS. I obviously wasn't being literal
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>>58379802
Obviously you were lying, yes.
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>>58379803
If you can't understand hyperbole that's on you man.
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>>58379805
That literally doesn't mean anything again.
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>>58379813
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hyperbole
Hope this helps.
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>>58379818
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lie
Hope this helps you more.
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>>58379827
No deceptive intent here, just gushing about one of my favorite games.
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>>58379832
Just lying, yes. Seems common with you folk.
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>>58379836
If you want me to rephrase my initial statement, "very many new team members are an adventure in and of themselves"
Also, depending on how you build your team, the initial statement can absolutely be literal, which I can't really say for other games.
You're free to keep "nuh uh"-ing but it's a simple fact that HGSS is very heavily designed around going out of your way to explore for new team members, which was the intended meaning of the original statement
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>>58379843
It's not literal, it's a lie. And it can be said for all the games.
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>>58379850
>And it can be said for all the games.
You're welcome to elaborate.
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>>58379854
It's true because i said it. I'm roleplaying you now.
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>>58379856
I do welcome actual discussion, if you feel like saying anything at all.
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>>58379868
Why would anyone say anything to a liar?
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>>58379582
I'm a geezer that prefers the Gameboy soundtrack. I know it's not rational but it can't be helped.
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>>58379874
>"nuh uh" again
I accept your concession
>>58379882
Nah, it's completely rational. I'm not here to genwar, just to praise an aspect of a game I love. If you prefer the classics, by all means man
With that said, I also love how HGSS incorporated the original GSC soundtrack (well, midi recreations of it, because of hardware limitations, but it's still cool nonetheless)
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>>58379891
>no argument
Liars gonna lie.
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>>58379897
Where's yours?
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>>58379905
My what? Lies? I don't do those, sorry.
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>>58379921
Your argument.
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>>58379923
About what?
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>>58379933
I've yet to see an argument for how this isn't a unique design philosophy to the Johto games
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>>58379949
I have yet to see any proof its a design philosophy at all.
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>>58379582
Anti-Johti fags must live such sad lives.
Best region.
Best games.
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>>58379960
Consider playing HGSS, you'll very quickly see what I mean. A ton of Pokemon are off the beaten path, encouraging the player to explore in order to find new Pokemon in order to build a team (or in order to catch 'em all, in the case of Unown, because let's be honest, you're not using Unown)
Scyther, Pinsir, Heracross, Lapras, Natu, Aipom, the entirety of route 47/48/safari zone, Pineco, Dunsparce, Tyrogue, Remoraid, arguably Yanma, the list goes on and on, a large portion of the Pokemon are in optional areas, or are very rare, or both.
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>>58379986
They are all in the intended path. They even show you how to use Headbutt to get Heracross. Nothing exploration about that.
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>>58379992
They show you how to use Headbutt if you talk to one specific NPC, but it's up to you to actually find Heracross.
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>>58379997
Just like its up to me to find any Pokemon. In any region.
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>>58380003
Brother, the vast majority of the dex in other games will find you on its own. You have to go out of your way to not only get headbutt, but backtrack to Azalea Town and use it, and there's two other Pokemon you're more likely to find. If you don't experiment with Headbutt, you won't find it.
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>>58380018
Headbutt guy is literally on your screen with a big exclamation point using it on trees and tells you to try it. Gible in Sinnoh is actually well hidden. There's nothing unique about HGSS.
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>>58380003
why are you behaving like a fucking 4 years old?
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>>58380057
We don't sign our posts here btw.
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>>58380048
>gible
One Pokemon versus like half the Johto dex (not saying there isn't a few more in Sinnoh, but not to the same extent as Johto)
Many players will get Headbutt, but never go out of their way to use it and experiment with it, and as a result they will never find Pokemon like Aipom, Heracross or Pineco. It's entirely up to the player to actually explore the move and what kind of Pokemon you can find with it.
Also worth noting you'll eventually find Gabite at victory road anyway in Sinnoh.
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Can we get a fact check on that half the dex? Oh another lie? Damn...
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>>58380075
>like half the dex
>like
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Like, 100% of Sinnohs dex is behind big adventures. Like, 100. Maybe even 101%. Like.
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>>58380061
based retarded edgelord-kun
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>>58380093
We still don't sign our posts here.
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>>58380075
Actually take a look at the Johto dex real quick and think about where each Pokemon is. "Half" is a surprisingly close estimate as to how many Pokemon you probably won't find in the wild if you don't explore off the main path
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Johto and Sinnoh prove that fans are lazy...You can easily make a team of new mons, especially with the evolutions in the remake.
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>>58380096
keep going baby, I'm almost done
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>>58380101
Like, i did and like, all of them are in the main path. But Sinnoh, it's 100% on opional areas.
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>>58380102
The only people who use the same 6 Pokemon every playthrough of Johto are the people who don't actually like Johto
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>>58380113
Yeah most people don't really care for Johto. There are much better regions with better Pokemon distributions.
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>>58380116
Elaborate as to what you mean by that. What makes Johto's Pokemon distribution "bad?"
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>>58380121
The fact that people always use the same Pokemon?
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>>58380124
And why might that be? Could it be that... it's because they don't explore? Could it be that a very large portion of the dex is, in fact, off the beaten path?
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>>58380128
Because it has bad distribution.
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>>58380130
But what makes it bad?
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>>58380133
Gamefreak made it's distribution bad.
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>>58380136
What's bad about it?
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>>58380138
Many Pokémon from Johto, such as Sneasel and Houndour, are only available in the Kanto region after the player has beaten the Elite Four
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>>58380142
>many
Congrats, you just listed all two lines that this applies to. Also having more new Pokemon to catch even in the postgame is a good thing actually.
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>>58380149
Yeah like i said, bad distributions. Like.
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>>58380158
>distribution le bad because there's two lines exclusive to postgame in the game with the most postgame content
Kek
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>>58380172
Glad we agree.
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>>58380176
>he doesn't know what the >meme arrow entails
Lurk more.
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>>58380186
You don't know? That's sad.
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>>58380190
I know you think you're le epic trolling here but if anything you're merely demonstrating that anti-johto fags are physically incapable of making an argument
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>>58380200
What argument? This genwar thread just seemed little sad since no one was tuning in so i debunked the premise out of pity. You thought there was some bigger argument here?
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>>58380212
>debunked
When? All you've said is "nuh uh" over and over
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>>58380219
Right here man. >>58379802
He (You) even says sure and conceded.
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>>58380226
"Hey retard, I obviously wasn't being literal and literally everyone can see that" isn't the same thing as "ungghh you're right I consneed"
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>>58380236
>Hey handsome and rich man, I was obviously lying
I accept your apology again anon. Maybe your next genwar thread gets the attention you need. Try Unova maybe? People just don't care about Johto that much.
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>>58380248
Anti-johtofags are never beating the incapable of making an argument allegations
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>>58380264
You keep parroting that, but i don't think you know what it means.
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>>58380266
If you're so capable of making an argument, do it. You've yet to say anything of substance. You've literally only said "erm well actually it's not EVERY pokemon in johto and also figurative speech and outright lying are literally the exact same thing"
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>>58380291
Like i said before, there's no argument. Thread was debunked.
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>>58380295
No it wasn't. You're just incapable of understanding hyperbole. They teach this shit in elementary school.
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>>58380298
They teach you not to lie before school.
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>>58380302
Yeah, and I haven't told a lie in this thread.
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>>58380311
You just lied again.
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holy fuck imagine getting up at 6 fucking AM on a saturday morning JUST TO argue with another retard for 2 hours straight about a video game for children
what fucking miserable lives you two miserable faggots must be living
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>>58380313
I like to actively engage with obvious bait because it's funny.
Also it's 9am in my timezone
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>>58380313
Genwarfags have nothing better to do than lie i'm afraid.
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>>58380328
Yeah, you'd know.
Initially I made this thread just to praise an aspect of a game I quite like, you're the one who derailed the thread. But it was in fact very entertaining.
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>>58380337
I just debunked a false claim.
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>>58380349
The only claim you've debunked is the claim that anti-johtofags are even remotely capable of making any kind of argument
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>>58380362
That claim was proven to be correct.
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>>58380366
Maybe in your self-insert fanfic
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>>58380374
We don't sign our posts here.
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>>58380377
That meme just doesn't work here, I didn't call you a name.
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>>58380393
Worked just fine.
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>>58380397
Not really, but suit yourself I guess.
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>>58380410
Yes really.
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>>58380302
holy esl
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>>58379582
>HGSS is THE best pokemon game EVER created!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>58380452
the NPC take is hating HGSS and claiming that BW or B2W2 is the best pokemon game actually
only true fans stuck with hgss
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>>58380465
Unova Derangment Syndrome.
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>>58380465
I like both BW/BW2 and HGSS :)
Yay hehe
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>>58380470
i like unova. im not saying it's bad, it's absolutely an enjoyable region to play through
with that said, unova favoritism is absolutely the "npc" take
>>58380473
me too
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>>58380465
>true fans
more like parrots
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>>58380491
"hgss fucking sucks actually" is the current parroted narrative though
it was pretty universally beloved for a while, yes, but everyone kinda suddenly decided it sucks
but they're wrong anyway so whatever man, im gonna keep playing it anyway
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>>58380503
>They're wrong anyway
>N...no!!!!! Everyone should NOT dislike OUR favorite, beloved sovl masterpiece named Heartgold and Soulsilver!!!!!!!
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If they were that good, people would have bought them more.
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>>58380531
>Implying SV was good
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>>58380535
SV is very good.
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>>58380526
nah man, you're allowed not to like it
it'd mean your taste is rather dogshit but that's none of my business
>>58380531
its one of the best selling ds games
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>>58380539
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>>58380551
This was proven to be fake emulator screenshot.
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>>58380540
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>>58379582
I am not as big on HGSS/Johto as the average (non /vp/) fan but I do like the idea of events like the Bug Catching Contest, Union Cave Lapras on Friday, Ruins of Alph, the weekend siblings, and swarms. Just wish shit like Yanma (in Gen 2) was worth the effort because the journey nor the destination are haha.
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>>58380552
cope
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>>58380572
This too.
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>>58380576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mbv4b7yLgE
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>>58380587
Over half a million fans watching a community video. That's levels.
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>>58379591
>HGSS mogs the rest of the series so hard that merely praising it is considered inciting a genwar
Really makes one think
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>HGSS mog-
lol...
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>>58380592
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>>58380606
Kino. Thank you for sharing screenshots from this great game to everyone. Makes more people buy it and enjoy it!
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>>58380611
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>>58380605
That’s not you using sales as an argument, right? That’d be embarrassing.
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>>58380615
Chills. the GOAT.
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>>58380621
From now on we should all talk about sv ONLY
... *crickets*
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>>58380616
Proof?
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is there a derogatory term for paldea fans like there is for all the other gens
i never really see anyone actually praise it so i genuinely dont know
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>>58380637
Everyone loves Paldea.
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>>58380647
>Everyone
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>>58380659
Everyone.
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>>58380661
Holy shit PalDEI dickriders are something else
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>>58380598
more like
>HGSS is so shitty that the only instance where anyone would be praising it is if they're baiting a genwar
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>>58380674
>the mere mention of hgss gets people this insecure
kek
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GOD I love Johto. Just the vibe of an ancient land, steeped in history and tradition, now on the cusp of modernization. Temples and traditional dances next to radio towers and bullet trains. The old struggling to remain in an ever-advancing world. And the Ruins Of Alph that show that there was and even older civilization that failed to stick around. Team Rocket, the villains defeated in the previous game, are also trying to make a comeback, refusing to be lost to the past. Johto is one of the best settings in a Pokemon game.
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>>58380637
the idea of those terms is that they only apply to people who were young enough to have been the target audience for the gen when it was current
there's no need for a Paldea term yet because those kids are currently like 10 at the most

Joe's stated favorite region being Galar doesn't make him a Gallele.
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most overrated games of all time
johto is the face of genwars
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>>58381255
Hi Grok, please tell us more about how Masuda and Ohmori fucked little children in the Game Freak offices in 2000.
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>>58379582
Except Houndour, Misdreavus, murkrow, Larvitar, Sneasel and Slugma, because fuck them I guess.
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>>58381616
bro, your safari zones? your cliff caves? your pokemon daisuki club eggs?
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>>58381612
What? I just like Johto. WTF are you talking about?
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>be playing the best pokemon game
>still somehow spend most of play time on voltorb flip
Fine, Mr Game, I'll buy yet another copy of thunderbolt from the gentlemen at the table to make room for coins, just keep the table running.
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>>58382992
Please don't use AI to samefag your own thread.
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>>58383658
>AI
>your own thread
I love Johto, none of your slander and lies will change that!



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