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Which is better, base sun and moon or ultra?
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>every new team member is an adventure in and of itself
GOD I fucking love these games.
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Ultra is better BUT I'd just play base instead

Base SM has a pretty decent plot, that alone makes it worth playing if you really need to play a gen 7 game for whatever reason
Ultra's plot is fucking dogshit and the gameplay improvements are barely relevant

>b-b-bbut who cares about the plot in a muhpokemon game
Both games are 90% cutscenes and 10% actual gameplay. If you're going to play something that keeps shoving plot down your throat, at least pick the one with better plot.

TL;DR; Play a base SM romhack
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Depends on if you value story or gameplay more. The Ultra games offer way more variety in Pokemon and have accessible tutors during the main playthrough, plus being able to give A-Marowak Ghost STAB before the Elite Four.
But the base games have Lusamine mind rape, which makes it a tough choice.
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>>58379909
Depends, do you care about the main or post game more?
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>>58379909
Base no contest.
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>>58379909
Outside the Lusamine meme and Fire Totem, USUM absolutely.
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>>58379909
USUM is surprisingly challenging if you turned the exp shite off
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>>58379982
>pokemon game is hard if you kneecap yourself
that's every game
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>>58379909
This is such a silly question. USUM is obviously MUCH BETTER than base SM.

USUM has everything that base SM has (minus a slightly different story ending), while also adding all of the following:
>Team Rainbow Rocket plot
>Battle Agency
>Alola Photo Club
>Mantine Surfing
>Ultra Warp Ride
>Kantonian Gym
>Much better Totem battles
>More Pokemon overall
>New Pokemon
>New Z-Moves
>Move Tutors
>New Locations (Surfing beaches, Sandy Cave, UBs worlds, etc)
>Expanded old Locations (Mount Lanakila, etc)
>100+ new side quests
>Etc

There is absolutely no contest. USUM is the best enhanced version.
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>>58380004
>Team Rainbow Rocket plot
Which was just a garbage boss rush that did not feature my qt saloon maiden waifu
>Battle Agency
Unironically one of the worst pieces of side content in any pokemon game. All they had to do was fucking copy paste the battle factory, instead, they did something stupidly boring and convoluted for no reason
>Alola Photo Club
No
>Mantine Surfing
No
>Ultra Warp Ride
No
>Kantonian Gym
You're making me remember all of the ULTRA CHANGES shilling that USUM received just for the final product being a nothing burger
>Much better Totem battles
This is debatable. Some battles were improved, some were downgraded.
>More Pokemon overall
Just play a romhack that improves pokemon availability
>New Pokemon
You have like 5 new postgame mons.
>New Z-Moves
All gimmicky ones for shillmons that you won't use
>Move Tutors
Romhacks already improve movepools
>New Locations (Surfing beaches, Sandy Cave, UBs worlds, etc)
Ub worlds were cool VISUALLY. They were still just literal hallways, watch them on youtube instead. Also, I genuinely don't remember any of those places, all I remember was people whining on how the fucking golf course was still not in the game
>Expanded old Locations (Mount Lanakila, etc)
The first actual good thing
>100+ new side quests
Beating all trainers in one route isn't a sidequest
>Etc
Bro, if you're desperate enough to mention the kantonian gym, then also mention the fucking worthless pikachu valley and the stupid fairy trial that took like 2 minutes to code it in

Play base SM for the better story and writing. Play USUM afterwards for the disappointment.
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>>58380111
>Play base SM for the better story and writing.
LOL
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>>58380111
USUM is a much better game than base SM. USUM is also the best enhanced version (yes, it's better than Crystal, Emerald and Platinum). You can keep coping tho.
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>>58380692
Why the fuck would I give the shit about the opinion of some tard that can barely write a decent post? >>58380675
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>>58380698
But enough about you
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>>58379998
They are all different. I play each game the same way (no exp. share, set, no items, first species encountered) and XY/ORAS were the easiest by far. SM and USUM were challenging with a couple more spikes in USUM. Everything else is scattered in the middle, not counting the switch games since I don't play those.
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>>58379909
>better gameplay
USUM
>better story
SM
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>>58379909
In story, sun and moon are better, meanwhile the ultra versions got some gameplay improvements, also the postgame of the rainbow rocket is cool, but I prefer sun and moon personally because the story is more coherent and lusamine feels more creepy and I am into that
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>>58379909
>story is slightly less retarded in base SM
I'll take the one with more things to do. Both games are bad.
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I like the plot of SM but the pacing sucks
I just went through Sun and I'm going through Moon now to get exclusives for my living dex and it's just so damn slow
If I were to recommend one for somebody to play blind it would be Ultra



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