Which is better, base sun and moon or ultra?
>every new team member is an adventure in and of itselfGOD I fucking love these games.
Ultra is better BUT I'd just play base insteadBase SM has a pretty decent plot, that alone makes it worth playing if you really need to play a gen 7 game for whatever reasonUltra's plot is fucking dogshit and the gameplay improvements are barely relevant>b-b-bbut who cares about the plot in a muhpokemon gameBoth games are 90% cutscenes and 10% actual gameplay. If you're going to play something that keeps shoving plot down your throat, at least pick the one with better plot.TL;DR; Play a base SM romhack
Depends on if you value story or gameplay more. The Ultra games offer way more variety in Pokemon and have accessible tutors during the main playthrough, plus being able to give A-Marowak Ghost STAB before the Elite Four.But the base games have Lusamine mind rape, which makes it a tough choice.
>>58379909Depends, do you care about the main or post game more?
>>58379909Base no contest.
>>58379909Outside the Lusamine meme and Fire Totem, USUM absolutely.
>>58379909USUM is surprisingly challenging if you turned the exp shite off
>>58379982>pokemon game is hard if you kneecap yourselfthat's every game
>>58379909This is such a silly question. USUM is obviously MUCH BETTER than base SM.USUM has everything that base SM has (minus a slightly different story ending), while also adding all of the following:>Team Rainbow Rocket plot>Battle Agency >Alola Photo Club>Mantine Surfing>Ultra Warp Ride>Kantonian Gym>Much better Totem battles>More Pokemon overall>New Pokemon>New Z-Moves>Move Tutors>New Locations (Surfing beaches, Sandy Cave, UBs worlds, etc)>Expanded old Locations (Mount Lanakila, etc)>100+ new side quests>EtcThere is absolutely no contest. USUM is the best enhanced version.
>>58380004>Team Rainbow Rocket plotWhich was just a garbage boss rush that did not feature my qt saloon maiden waifu>Battle Agency Unironically one of the worst pieces of side content in any pokemon game. All they had to do was fucking copy paste the battle factory, instead, they did something stupidly boring and convoluted for no reason>Alola Photo ClubNo>Mantine SurfingNo>Ultra Warp RideNo>Kantonian GymYou're making me remember all of the ULTRA CHANGES shilling that USUM received just for the final product being a nothing burger>Much better Totem battlesThis is debatable. Some battles were improved, some were downgraded.>More Pokemon overallJust play a romhack that improves pokemon availability>New PokemonYou have like 5 new postgame mons. >New Z-MovesAll gimmicky ones for shillmons that you won't use>Move TutorsRomhacks already improve movepools>New Locations (Surfing beaches, Sandy Cave, UBs worlds, etc)Ub worlds were cool VISUALLY. They were still just literal hallways, watch them on youtube instead. Also, I genuinely don't remember any of those places, all I remember was people whining on how the fucking golf course was still not in the game>Expanded old Locations (Mount Lanakila, etc)The first actual good thing>100+ new side questsBeating all trainers in one route isn't a sidequest>EtcBro, if you're desperate enough to mention the kantonian gym, then also mention the fucking worthless pikachu valley and the stupid fairy trial that took like 2 minutes to code it inPlay base SM for the better story and writing. Play USUM afterwards for the disappointment.
>>58380111>Play base SM for the better story and writing.LOL
>>58380111USUM is a much better game than base SM. USUM is also the best enhanced version (yes, it's better than Crystal, Emerald and Platinum). You can keep coping tho.
>>58380692Why the fuck would I give the shit about the opinion of some tard that can barely write a decent post? >>58380675
>>58380698But enough about you
>>58379998They are all different. I play each game the same way (no exp. share, set, no items, first species encountered) and XY/ORAS were the easiest by far. SM and USUM were challenging with a couple more spikes in USUM. Everything else is scattered in the middle, not counting the switch games since I don't play those.
>>58379909>better gameplayUSUM>better storySM
>>58379909In story, sun and moon are better, meanwhile the ultra versions got some gameplay improvements, also the postgame of the rainbow rocket is cool, but I prefer sun and moon personally because the story is more coherent and lusamine feels more creepy and I am into that
>>58379909>story is slightly less retarded in base SMI'll take the one with more things to do. Both games are bad.
I like the plot of SM but the pacing sucksI just went through Sun and I'm going through Moon now to get exclusives for my living dex and it's just so damn slowIf I were to recommend one for somebody to play blind it would be Ultra