Gatrbros won in the end
>>58387151that looks fucking retarded
wait totodile gets the red helmet already as its base form?
>>58387151This is not winning
>>58387151that looks fucking awesome
>>58387151Its not bad as originally thought but still bad why would it just devolve into being a big totodile
That shit looks really fucking retarded.>larping as the preevoPathetic.
>>58387151I actually like this.
the arms having to comically stretch to sell the illusion is a bit ridiculous
>>58387151>it's mega form is just a really big totodileBased?
>>58387151Why are the arms so fucking long?
>>58387151oh jesus christ everyone is gonna love this thing.
>>58387193they swap out the model between idling and attacking, it looks absurd. Ridiculous.
>>58387151>It's only identity is to be a Totodile referenceWhy
I was kinda into the design until this screenshot, those arms are way too stretched out
I like this but it makes no fucking sense
>>58387188Literal manchild mon
where the fuck is skarmory!?
>>58387201gorilla armed dragons
>>58387201The arms stretch and the spikes expand when it clamps down the hood
>>58387151kek it even copies the black markings on totodile's eyes
>>58387201Because it's a shit fucking design that doesn't work at all without giving him nonsensical spaghetti arms that would look like shit so they spawn into existence just for the meme skull attack.
>>58387223do not try and make him part of the team. He's shit compared to all 3.5 of the GADs.
Preorder cancelled
>>58387151LOL, it's so awful
>>58387201"WhY ArE tHE ArmS So FuCKinG LoNG?"retarded mfs when they actually see what a pokemon looks likeit has been literally awkwardly moving its massive arms since the beginning
>>58387151Imagine if instead of Goku getting his iconic Super Saiyan form we know of today, the Super Saiyan actually just makes him look like he was when he was 13.That would be really stupid to have a form that’s supposed to be way stronger progress backwards in design by making the character look like a child.
>>58387223this isnt gorilla arms, this is spaghetti arms
>>58387151This is really bad
>>58387276brainless nigger doesn't even know they literally swap the arm model out for the bite animation to make them longer to make it look "better" lmao
>>58387276there's a difference between long and a limp noodle
>>58387151>arms literally stretch to fit the lower jaw
>>58387151The ultimate humiliation ritual.
>>58387151This is really good
>>58387151Okay that actually looks pretty nice. Still picking Meganium though
Meanwhile the gen 6+ starters get better forms, I am sure this is our humiliation ritual gator bros
>>58387151>Mega EVOLUTION>Reverts to Totodile?
>>58387151>Living in the shadow of a baby monName a worse humilliation
>>58387347>Meanwhile the gen 6+ starters get better formsAnd you have to pay for Nintendo’s shitty online to get them. They knew exactly what they were doing.
>>58387367>Name a worse humilliationMEGA DRAGONITE, DUH
>>58387276Anon continues to grapple with the very complex notion of "degree".
>>58387151hol up
>>58387151>Gatrcucks already coping lol
>>58387486I am not coping, I simply am not playing the game.
>>58387465I thought that was a fat fucking ass in the thumbnail
Honestly, this is the same level of impracticality as Samurott's swords and Rillaboom's drums. Can you imagine Feraligatr having to attack with it's arms stretched out and his helmet moving up and down to simulate biting during a intense fight? No, because it's too stupid and clunky looking to imagine. They legit ruined Feraligatr with this mega just to pander to Totodilefags somehow.
>>58387151I really wonder what was the thinking behind this abomination, some retard came with this idea and the people in charge said, yeah, let's do it! I need the conversation, the phone calls, everything.
>>58387520GoodNow if we can only ruin everything else to pander to troons as well, I can leave this franchise at least
>>58387520>Can you imagine Feraligatr having to attack with it's arms stretched out and his helmet moving up and down to simulate biting during a intense fight? No, because it's too stupid and clunky looking to imagine.No particularly hard to imagine honestly, even if you think it looks incredibly stupid-not sure what makes this any more impractical than a typical biting move. If anything it could just fucking GRAB its opponent and then slam the top down to similar effect too, if we're going on the anime's "energy fangs" interpretaton.
>>58387199
>>58387589It is based
>>58387559>even if you think it looks incredibly stupid-not sure what makes this any more impractical than a typical biting moveGators biting with their long jaws is completely natural. This, on the other hand, is silly and honestly pointless since why does he need to do that when he already has big jaws?> If anything it could just fucking GRAB its opponent and then slam the top down to similar effect tooYeah, good luck trying to do that while also trying to get the opponent within the head range while not bending your arms to keep the jaw structure for the attack.
>>58387520Did everyone in this thread just miss this or something? You can very clearly see it in the faceshot icon too so seriously are posts like this just pretending to be moronic?https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1760290040538905.gif
>>58387635We know how it's animated. It's still dumb and impractical in battle. Just like how we know how Samurott unsheathing his sword is animated.
>>58387635everybody knew about this anon we've known for weeks
>>58387629>Gators biting with their long jaws is completely natural. This, on the other hand, is silly and honestly pointless since why does he need to do that when he already has big jaws?Because we're assuming using the head+arm spikes would be stronger given that's what Mega evolution does?>Yeah, good luck trying to do that while also trying to get the opponent within the head range while not bending your arms to keep the jaw structure for the attack.You describe it like it's overly difficult but I'm really struggling to see how it it'd be at all impractical? Like, maybe we're just seeing different things in our minds but I have no idea why it clasping the opponent, holding it out, and then slamming the top down would be particularly difficult unless they're way bigger than it (in which case normal jaws run into the same exact problem of not being able to fully close).
>>58387655If you know how its possible for feraligatr to do that then why are you pretending its impractical and make no mention of it in your post? Its fine if you hate how it looks what doesn’t make sense to me is how you faggots are gaslighting yourselves into thinking you are making sense it makes you sound utterly retarded and its grating to see, almost like I was reading a midwit iq post on reddit that was probably ai generated or something. Like seriously, shut the fuck up if you’re not going to say anything productive.
>>58387636It fits with mega sceptile though. Long meme tail and long meme head
>>58387636>edgyzard>good
>>58387520base forms can't be ruined by megas because they're once per team temporary forms.Especially if the base form was already competitively good like Feraligatr
>>58387704>they animated it to do things so it's not impractical!I could dig a hole with a spoon but just by virtue of it being possible it doesn't make it not retarded.
>>58387655This is signs of autism.
>>58387778Yes.
>>58387781Read the words I typed into my post. I distinctly said its fine if you don’t like it but stop talking like its impractical and you knew thats how the animation looked all along. Everyone here sounds like they literally just found out about this.
>>58387629>Feraligatr >big jawsTotodile has a bigger jaw than this troglodyte cave man looking thing.
>>58387779and the cope begins.
>>58387692>Because we're assuming using the head+arm spikes would be stronger given that's what Mega evolution does?And giving it a bigger head and jaw outright wouldn't be as sufficient, if not more because?>You describe it like it's overly difficult but I'm really struggling to see how it it'd be at all impractical? You have to pull the opponent in with your arms, then combine the force of the head with the "jaw" arms to maximize damage. But this doesn't work if your arms are bending to pull your opponent within range of the head. It's clunky and mind you, this was the scenario you pitched for it usage. Meanwhile, in the screenshot, it just attacks like that.>>58387704You showing it opening it's head doesn't mean it can fight efficiently in battle. It's the same thing with the Samurott swords. Just because it's animated doesn't mean it works in a intense battle, where the opponent moves swiftly and can attack efficiently.
>>58387793it IS impractical you fucking retard, just because they animated it doing that doesn't make it not impractical, read the fucking words in MY post you braindead faggot. They literally have to change the model for its goddamn arms to make it "work", dumbass.
>>58387809If you can see how it opens you can see how it closes, you can literally see it grows extra limbs for this specific purpose redditard. Enough of this fucking nonsense. I am not going to pretend you even knew what you were talking about in the first place you made no mention of the animation to begin with larping faggot, nobody in this thread did.
>>58387809>Sword clearly efficient and properly animated>throwing an autistic fit over ityou have a serious issue.
>>58387151get better standards
>>58387546Im sure its some westoid who thought of this for the sake of deconstruction
>>58387809>And giving it a bigger head and jaw outright wouldn't be as sufficient, if not more because?That wasn't your argument at all lmfao. I would've been perfectly fine if they did that too, actually, not sure why you're assuming I wouldn't be. >You have to pull the opponent in with your arms, then combine the force of the head with the "jaw" arms to maximize damage"Pull"? My scenario was specifically pitched with the idea it was already holding the opponent out with its hands, after which it'd use a biting move by "manifesting" it on the top jaw of hood and then bringing that down on the foe. I think we really are imagining different things-if I wasn't out of my house at the moment doing laundry I'd pick up my tablet and pen and sketch out what I was talking about.
>>58387151This is so fucking funny but it makes no fucking sense at all.
>>58387635It would look better with actual 4 arms instead having them so stretched.
>>58387847>you can literally see it grows extra limbs for this specific purpose redditard.That's worse. Why does it grow another set of arms just for that? Why can't he just have a bigger head to chomp down on? It's much simpler and effective. I know that this was memed on and hated but it's sad when this is a much better idea than what we got. But keep malding and coping with your shit mega, I guess.
>>58387151What a strange concept
>Disguises himself as a younger version to deceive his victimsPredatorgar...
>>58387847It doesn't grow extra limbs dumbass, they switch to a different mesh with longer arms to make the design "work". The gif you saw just didn't toggle the visibility of each mesh.Same thing with bird mons switching from open/closed wings or Decidueye snapping its anatomy in a single frame to switch from cape to wings.
>>58387957holy shit how are you so fucking stupidyeah they change the goddamn model because otherwise it doesn't fucking work at allthat is the fucking point
>>58387929This is just armor and gets in the way of biting retard.
>>58387151I thought the Galar fossils were horrendous - this takes it to a new low. This evolution line will never be saved again. Way to go Gamefreak
>>58387520Samurott's sword are less impractical than this, which is saying something.
>>58387929impressive how this shit still managed to be better than what we got
>>58387941Why is every Johto starter a pedophile
>>58387929it's just a 3d animation trick
>>58387151won the looser award
>>58387974Reflect on yourself, retard.
>>58387151having a hard time understanding why there's such a negative reaction to such a cool mega
>>58387166that's feraligatr. The bottom "jaw" is just his 2 arms stuck out and the spikes fitting in as the teeth.
5 nanoseconds in Photoshop and it's still better.
>>58387894>That wasn't your argument at all lmfaoI said that because if they wanted a bigger jaw to do more damage, like you said, why not just give it a larger, fake red head and jaw around it's head?> I think we really are imagining different things-if I wasn't out of my house at the moment doing laundry I'd pick up my tablet and pen and sketch out what I was talking about.By all means.
>>58387974>"how can you be so fucking stupid">proceeds to say "yes, what you are saying it right"nta, but needed to point it out
>>58388016>>58388056got confused
I was hoping for a return to the caveman theme, not cosplaying the first stage of the line. looks forced, it has the top half of a giant totodile head handing off its neck? lol
>>58387188Literally a consistent theme of many new megas for some reason.
>>58388053>I said that because if they wanted a bigger jaw to do more damage, like you said, why not just give it a larger, fake red head and jaw around it's head?Probably because they wanted to lean into the Totodile silhouette while maintaining its base proportions, hence using the hood and making its arms transform? You're acting like there's no reason they took the approach they did when there is-you obviously don't have to like it but if they just wanted it to be a "bite harder" Mega they very easily could've done so without adding the Totodile aspects at all.>By all means.cloths have about ten more minutes in the dryer, peg that time down and I'll sketch it out after I get back
>>58388069It's not even on its neck. It's just transformed red spikes on its back.
>>58388048>the hood becomes flacid and drapes over gatr's back when it's opened instead of remaining rigidly erect yup it's that simple to fix
>>58388048The cape idea is pretty decent
>>58388108I think it would have looked better if it was split into two halves that angle outwards when not in use, so they look more like draconic winglike extensions, not a lid. then they can clamp together into the usual lid structure when attacking
>>58388109>it's that simpleNot for Game Freak's talentless team. They're incapable of making anything that isn't chonky garbage. That's why all the fire and smoke parts that are clearly supposed to be actual fire and smoke in all mons are ugly hunks of 3D model attached to them. They cannot do 3D well at all.
>>58387151>return to totodilepeak
>>58388100>Probably because they wanted to lean into the Totodile silhouette while maintaining its base proportions, hence using the hood and making its arms transform?Yeah, and that's the problem. That's why it sucks and makes fighting like that look impractical, especially with OP's screenshot. I don't want a big manbaby Totodile for a mega. I wanted Mega Feraligatr.
>>58388032Because vp already spent a day jumping the gun on it and now if they go back on it they'll have to admit they were wrong, which obviously they will never do because then they'll get called slurs. This is 4chan, anon.
>>58387151>it evolved so much it turned back into TotodileDumb.
>>58388096You have not taken a good look at a mega evo in the last decade.
>>58388096>for some reason.Bad designers think it's clever when a thing looks like another thing but isn't actually it. That's why you have so many jobmons in fakemon designs. They think their idea of making a tail look like a broom or whatever is the most high IQ thing ever concieved.
>>58388171You see, I don't disagree with you over being disappointed over the direction-that's your opinions and I of course understand why you'd feel that way so there's no need TO argue it- just that the direction they DID choose is entirely impractical. It's gimmicky for sure, but I don't see it just outright not working.also clothes are almost done, so I'll sketch out what I meant soon
>>58388048>>58388109>>58388159The cape idea is retarded too, just make them shoulder pauldrons or something similar then have the crown grow or something
I would literally just be fine with non-stetched arms and a more reasonable head size, yeah Totodile has a big head but this is way overdoing it
>>58388159you seen the performance of these games on switch? I think the consoles would actually burst into fucking flames if gamefreak tried to use particle systems for those effects(not excusing them for this, it makes this shit 100x more incompetent)
>>58388205>Bad designers think it's clever when a thing looks like another thing but isn't actually it.Didn't know butterflies we're catching heat all of a sudden. Or nature in general.Fucking retarded nigger faggot.
>>58388205you are right
>>58387151
>>58387311Autist doesn't know ayy
pedolosions fell for the pedo bait
>>58388325if you ever watched pdf hunters then you know how this gonna end
>>58387792No.
4 armswhy?
>>58387188>>58388096>>58388205scolipede and eelektross using it as a nod that complements the core idea of the mega instead of being the basis of the entire design is fine, it's why barely anyone is complaining about themthe problem is shit like feraligatr and dragonite where it seems like their entire idea was "YOOO LETS MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE PREVO" but they were also deathly afraid of changing the base design, so their solution was to haphazardly slap on bells and whistles to make it look the part instead of just being a new design that includes aspects of the other forms
>>58388356it only has 2 arms, the second pair is a second mesh it toggles visibility for depending on its form
>>58387323Feraligator is the kind of Pokemon that would make its own mascot
>>58388356learn how model rigging works
>>583883563d modeling trick, only one pair shows up at a time
>>58387201>>58387207>>58387318I cooka the 'spaghett
>>58388356Read>>58383421
>>58388413>implying owls are birds
>>58388413these tourists would freak out at the wicked wench of alola
>>58388356Who cares post the megas we didn't see the models of (Skarmory, Clefable etc...)
>>58387151This is lame.
>>58387151Holy fuck this is stupid. Impossible to mistake the fin and lower jaw as the arm and head if they are different color It loses the point of the design
>>58388171>>58388227Alright, this is what I mean. Obviously rushed and sketchy but I don't see why this wouldn't work on opponents it could actually clasp in its hands
>>58387151Pretty cool. Definitely going for gator then
>>58388356They noticed the trick don't work with normal sized arms to they had to model comically largs arms for his totodile form
>>58388547I think the issue with this approach is that it would be significantly more practical for it to bite down on opponents and THEN have the second set of jaws inflict extra damage, and would also be much easier to incorporate into a visually cohesive design at thatplus part of what makes bite force so strong in the first place is that it's closing in from both ends, which is also why the strongest point of a bite is in the back of the mouth rather than the tip. grappling the opponent, keeping them still, and dropping the jaw hood on them from above seems effective at a glance but at that point it's not much of a bite so much as it's just nailing them with a single tooth-shaped spike
>>58387151Can we all agree that the arms look appetizing?
>>58387151the idea of having this big extra set of jaws that can fling forward is fine, but the way its been implemented is too goofy. Plus they did a better version of the same thing with the drill pokemon.
>>58388656>I think the issue with this approach is that it would be significantly more practical for it to bite down on opponents and THEN have the second set of jaws inflict extra damage, and would also be much easier to incorporate into a visually cohesive design at thatYou see, I actually do get this, but it's clear that they wanted to both incorporated "stronger bite force" and "looks like Totodile" so they went with a middle ground option that uses visual and contextual tells to sell the former (Megas are stronger so obviously its "bites" would not be stronger, larger "jaws"=larger bite force, even if that isn't necessarily true) while incorporating the latter.You're right in that it's obviously not the most EFFICIENT way to bit and obviously no actual animal would evolve to do it this way, but Megas are pretty explicitly an "unnatural" phenomenon that tends to exaggerate traits in ways that wouldn't be conducive to the Pokemon's actual means of survival for the sake of looking flashier or selling a theme (Glalie's broken maw, Manectric's giant thunderbolt fur, Slowbro's....everything kek).
>>58388796>would notI meant "would NOW be stronger", I need to proofread my posts more
>>58388356Nobody thought this shit was suspect? Nobody stopped for a fucking second and said “hmm this gimmick doesn’t quite work”? Nobody in the entire fucking process gave a single goddamn thought about this problem? What, were they on crunch time and just didn’t give a fuck?>but anon, Totodile is more popularOh yeah? So were fucking Bulbasaur and Mudkip, and those designs didn’t do what this shit does.
>>58387151>tfw you're nintendo and you see everyone pirating and emulating your biggest game release of the year
>>58388958cheating has always been a thing in animation
>>58387151>spend 30 levels training your Totodile up ot Feraligatr>spend probably another 10-20 levels before you get it's mega-stone>it "evolves" back into TotodileListen, I love pre-evolutions as much as the next person. But did it really need a callback?
>>58389904you can get the stones before they're fully evolved
>>58389912Well that's neat. Then it's just 30 levels just to evolve it back down to a bigger Totodile. They could've left that gimmick with gigatamaxes.
>>58387151what's the point of giving someone a mega form if they gonna end up looking like their basic form? what's the theme on these megas?
>>58390065a majority of megas were themed around "looking more like the previous stage" from the start, this is the logical extreme of that concept
>>58388972Everyone is pirating and emulating Mario Kart World?
>>58387151no, it looks fucking stupid, giant totodile isnt a good concept for mega FERALIGTRas a gatorbro, I'm totally disappointed
>>58390223You sound stupid so I don’t wanna judge you too hard
>>58388203Mega raichu y
>>58390065Combining elements from the first two stages or at least one of the previous stages for its mega design
Why can't Feraligatr be intimidating anymore? He used to be, once upon a time.
>>58391063It’s been like 20 years since then. It’s fucking over. Like the only thing they gave us was Feraligatr having dbz eyes in the profile picture.
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