>Cogita immortal (or very long-lived)>PLZA museum shows Volo is still around in present day>She is a descendant of 1 of thempic related is gonna be immortal too, isnt she?If they ever do a Legends game 100+ years in the future, she'll cameo
Oh boy, I can’t wait for this blatant goddess Cynthia wankfest to stay on the ‘log for over a month!
>>58393265>goddess Cynthia wankfestMastersex did it over a year ago
>>58393279I still don't have sex goddess Shirona!
>>58393279>>58393224HNNNNG
Wasnt she implied to be the mom of that one girl in the movie from a few years ago?
>>58393443just an implication/similarity at best and later the movie director deconfirmed it lolPlus it was an AU movie, it was never canon
shotas + Dawns granddaughters are still going to be in danger hundreds of years into the future
>>58393455>the movie director deconfirmed it lolThe movie director climbed down from his initial opinion, it WAS intended to be Cynthia's kid, then the Japanese incel brigade started sperging Cynthia wasn't in fact a model fantasy but yet another whore who hates them.For all you spastics pride in your spergy nature, you're small potatoes when it comes to incel japs.
>>58393459>shotas + Dawns granddaughters are still going to be in danger hundreds of years into the futureHot
k i n oino
>>58393224lesbian with eternal youth
2 immortal blonde gods..
>>58394298Would they hang out?
>>58393224or she is cogita
>>58394792cute nerd
>>58393954you are fucking trans
>>58395638MEGA DOG Z
>>58393224yeah, they are jewish vampires
>>58393224No wonder she is the strongest champion with that bloodline
>>58393224She's legit a mary sue, now. In any other franchise, she would be hated and considered as woke trash.
>>58395783Baby's first champion fight. That's literally it.
>>58395783>woke??
>>58395876female that's stronger than top percentage of men in her field = woke
>>58395887Thats just an alpha female. They existEspecially since pokemon battles dont require physical strength
>>58395897That logic doesn't matter. Women better than men at a sport = woke. I don't make the rules.
>no Volo and Cynthia appearance in Z-A
>>58395983Maybe in a later Legends game..
Will we ever get confirmation on whether Volo or Cogita is her ancestor?Or did they fuck and its both?
Someone has that comic of Loli Cynthia receiving a garchomp's egg from Volo?
>>58393224Cogita was only immortal until she completed her "mission" (helping the PLA's MC) but Volo wanted to be immortal to cause shit so he must have found a different way.
>>58396143Didn’t finish the game award
>>58396126Dont have that one =/
>>58395783>white, blonde, beautiful woman>woke
>>58396213Can still be woke if she's always dominate and better than every man in everything.
>>58393265I see the SwShfags are still seething that Leon's faux popularity died the moment SwSh stopped being relevant while Cynthia continues to be loved and popular.
>>58396226>if she's always dominateShe's the regional champion until losing to the Player. Same as every other champion in every other gen>better than every man in everything.Untrue
>>58396354>>58396367So cuteHope we get lots of new fanart of Cynthia with new Chomp and Lucario megasof course we will
>>58395783>She's legit a mary sueThat's Leon.Call me back when GF comes up with an entire region to fellate Cynthia's existence. Has Cynthia as the final boss of thirty years of anime where she's fellated as the strongest trainer ever. Has her beating Red on-screen in a game that's fellating Red as the strongest trainer ever. And other things I'm likely forgetting about.Hell, wanna know something? Leon gets more mentions in ZA script than the actual Champion of Kalos.
>>58396382Lucario is already a real good Mega, so idk why they are making another one, but I'm hyped for the new Mega Garchomp. That thing is hideus and also have shit stat distribution. I really hope they don't screw it up this time.
>no Cynthia helping out against the Ange tower boss
>>58396418Despite all of that, I don't think even Leon has celestial blood that allows him to live for hundreds of years. And also, Anime Cynthia was glazed in Sinnoh and Unova.
>>58396457>so idk why they are making another oneWe don't call it shilldog for nothing.Garchomp really deserves this redemption though. I have a smidgen of hope that they decided to give it a new one means they realized how badly they fucked up but this is GF at the end of the day and I can easily see them fucking up twice as hard thinking they fixed it.All that said, whatever happens, two more potential Megas for Cynthia's arsenal will always be a net positive.
>>58396484And they still put Leon over Cynthia.>And also, Anime Cynthia was glazed in Sinnoh and Unova.Let's be honest, the glaze Cynthia got then is nothing compared to the one Leon got during Shitneys.
When is the DLC with Sinnoh megas coming out ? Early 2026?
>>58396562>• Additional story content: Planned for release by February 28th, 2026
>>58396562Isn't a day 1 DLC?
>>58396484Not a single person in game or herself ever tried to claim she was the strongest ever to the point it becomes a meme. Her shilling in Sinnoh and Unova is no different than shilling other people got. Her beating up Paul shouldn't even count as shilling because it's literally the champion vs an egotistic young trainer. It should be expected. It's also not even confirm if she is immortal. Volo could've gotten transported like Cogita. Even Cogita herself isn't even confirm immortal because she had a quest she needed to complete. Which could imply she's immortal because of that. There is literally no trainer that is more forcibly glazed that Leon. And the funniest thing is that they didn't even need to do all that in order to make him look strong
>>58396457I dont give a fuck about the lucario mega but I am pretty curious about absol and garchomp. I really do think they didn't realize M.Chomp was so overly ugly/masculine when they saw that Cynthia would have to use it since it's her ace. The other megas fit the trainers decently well but M.Chomp looks like its only used by gruff looking men like that Ramos guy in the anime. If they cared that it was shit, they could just change it's ability to Sand Rush so that's why I'm leaning towards a different reason for why its getting another mega
I like the scythe arms on M.Chompdat chin thoA sleeker/slender M.Chomp would be based
>>58396682That's a good thing though?Megas should be universal designs.The Megas getting based around their Trainers, heavily limiting their designs and limiting their usage and making them look extremely out of place when someone else uses them, is extremely cringe.Besides, look at all these ugly Megas and meme Megas we're getting this round. You really think they give a shit Mega Chomp is "ugly"?There's only two reasonable reasons:One, they realized they fucked up badly with Mega Garchomp stat spread but don't wanna retcon it or change it for whatever autistic reason.Two, Garchomp is popular and Cynthia is popular so giving Garchomp a new Mega equals lots of money and Cynthia getting a new Mega also means lots of money.
I'm willing to accept a fast special attacker, anything but a slower Garchomp with practically no ability
>>58396731what moves would special M.Chomp use?
probably 7 or 7.5 anni in Masters for Cynthia alt with Mega Chomp Y/Z
>>58396727GF wants megas to be cool. They want people to look at a mega and go wow, "yeah I'm going to train that pokemon and mega evolve whenever I can because it's my ace."Garchomp is basically the poster child for being objectively worse than mega. Maybe they genuinely don't like how Garchomp has that reputation.
>>58396769Not that much but it's also just enough.
>>58396786>GF wants megas to be coolNo they don't lmao.Half of ZA Megas are humiliation rituals.>Garchomp is basically the poster child for being objectively worse than mega. Maybe they genuinely don't like how Garchomp has that reputation.That much I can agree with.
>>58393224Cynthia's race are foreigners from Sinnoh and Volo is the wandering jew of the Pokemon world they are probably jewish vampires
>>58396696>A sleeker/slender M.Chomp would be basedjust like M.Zard Y > Zard X
>>58393455>>58393443What movie was this?
>>58393954This means Cynthia will outlive Dawn though
Now we need Mega Spiritomb, Mega Roserade, Mega Milotic, Mega Togekiss and Mega Gastrodon
>>58396855M20, with Verity
>>58396866a girl and her murderlandshark with 2 mega evolutions..
>>58396855I Choose You
What are they reading
>>58393479I've read the initial interview. Didn't he just say something like "She does look like her doesn't she?" I don't see how this implies she was original suppose to be her mom. The kid doesn't even look like her.
>>58396912yaoi novels that Shauntal gave them
>>58396898I did not catch that in the slightest. Or maybe I did, and I forgot. I even forgot about the bit where Pikachu started talking until someone reminded me of it recently, so the latter would make a lot of sense.
>>58395836Nah, I was 18 when first playing Diamond and Cynthia was instant COOM for me, along with Dawn. Their designs are great.The champion battle is massively overblown though, I will agree. Only shitniggers struggled with it
>>58396995>Only shitniggers struggled with itso pokemon players
>>58397008Yeah. I forget how shit people are at such a basic game sometimes
>>58397050
>PLZA museum shows Volo is still around in present dayReading this I would assume this would be an interesting lore thread but when I saw how many replied it had I immediately knew of the shitfest that had unfolded.But anyway greentext related has intrigued me because I theorized Volo is a time traveler of some sort. Anyone got a pic from the museum?
>>58397123Why time traveller? He just lives for centuries like Cogitahis very last line of dialogue in PLA even implies this..
>>58397143It doesn't say when he donated them
>>58397162Yeah, but that museum didn't exist in the XY Lumiose, so (in lore) it was donated 5 years ago at most
Opinions on this ship
>>58397240True.I could argue semantics and say that they're talking about a collection, and museum collections do not necessarily have to be permanently associated with a museum.Lots of collections predate the museums that host them.But honestly, I'm not going to, because it doesn't matter.
>>58397143Does it? I got the assumption that he researched Hisui's myths and prepared his space-time rift masterplan for a VERY long time, additionally mentioning that he will "conquer" Arceus no matter how much time it takes him.Which led me to believe he can somehow defy the laws of space-time.He seems certain he will have another shot at his ambition. If he simply had a really long lifespan like Cogita and AZ, how would he be that certain in himself assuming he could eventually pass away?
>>58396596No. The store listing makes it imply that it's day 1 DLC because you get some costumes day 1 when you buy the DLC. The actual new content comes in February.
>>58397143>Donate his outfit >Nostalgic for the professor's notes He gave up?
>>58393224it all comes together!!
>>58396731Assuming it's slimmer/faster but specially focused, Y version stats will likely look something like this. Reduce att by 10 to discourage phys but still good enough since it is originally phys (similar to how dnite/starmie are spread atm). Make it have more spdef than M.Chomp). 20 points into speed. The rest must go into sp attk because it's the lowest stat. I can reduce sp atk to 140 and make spd 132 as well but I think this is fine. Main issue is that, it does not have that many good special ground moves to use assume its still ground/dragon
Just give her Dragon Dance for fuck's sake.
>>58393224The Celestia clan is not necessarily immortal but they are definitely long-lived. If the hitchhiker in Pokemon platinum is Volo (highly likely), he's over 200 years old.
>>58394298Volo is Arceussexual. And Cogita molested young Volo so he's afraid of hags.
>>58395983Why would they even appear there? Volo's still hanging around the Sinnoh region in the timeline of Pokemon Platinum and Cynthia is the champ there.>>58396074Volo is definitely implied to be her ancestor as they share the same looks, Pokemon team and soundtracks. Cogita's and Volo's exact relationship isn't super clear which makes it difficult to establish whether they did the deed. Cogita definitely seems to care for Volo deep down even when she acts prickly towards him. And Volo refers to Cogita as "mistress" which has a sexual undertone to it.
>>58398227nice
>>58398502>as they share the same looksI mean, so do Cogita and Cynthia
>>58397269Pretty good
>>58398615Rei in Pokemon Masters mistakes Cynthia for Volo at first. The genetics are so strong that Volo must be Cynthia's great-something-grandfather.Cogita could be the "grandmother" Cynthia was talking about in the games.
>>58398628
>>58398820UGUU AM I KAWAII YET
>>58398843
>>58397570Its got Earth Power and Scorching Sands. What else could it want for Special Ground moves
>>58398891She actually meant 113. Fucking hag.
>>58398908>fucking a haggod I wish
>>58399085>>58398940HNNNNG fuuuck
I wonder what she will be wearing 200 years in the future
>>58393224Imagine her room in 200 years...
>>58397464The last thing he said to Laventon was that they'd never see each other again.I'm pretty sure they were buds and he encouraged Laventon to finish the pokedex throughout the game.
So I skimmed the thread, Garchomp and Lucario are getting new megas? Can I see them?
>>58399960>Garchomp and Lucario are getting new megas?yes (in PLZA DLC)>Can I see them?no images, just chinese datamine for the list of mons who will get them (in DLC)
>>58399767
>>58399960Apparently, yes, in the Mega Dimension DLC.
>>58400020
>>58399534They are doing a poledance for Hikari.
>>58396074>>58398502The games already confirm Cogita as her ancestor lads. Celestic town's hailed as "the oldest settlement in Sinnoh" in DPPt/BDSP, something which can only be true if Celestic town was the Ancient Retreat of Cogita's during the events of Hisui, as her poetry states she saw the Diamond and Pearl clans migrate to her homeland and claim the name of her people for their own. There's also the fact the AR AND Celestic town are both situated on the same side of maps of the region, on the north-eastern slopes of Mt. Coronet and Cynthia claims her Grandmother as THE regional expert on Sinnoh myth and legends. Which again points to either Cogita being Cynthia's grandmother OR Cynthia's grandmother was Cogita's daughter and learned everything she knows from Mama. My money's on Cogita's her granny though. Play the games lads, Game Freak DO put all you need to know about things into them, you have to think about them rationally.
>>58399987>>58400012Sweet.
>>58400516thx lorebro
>>58400958Legs.
>>58400958Dawn's favorite card.
>>58401485
>>58400958>>58401511Top tier coom card
Cynthia - mommy vibe or big sister vibe?
Cynthia but it's the 70's.
>>58393954>>58401511shes a pedo?
>>58401926Big sister for me
>>58402012She loves lolis, shotas and adult women. She doesn't love adult men.
>>58401926Cynthia feels time locked at about 24 so big sister.
What is this hitchhiker thing?
>>58401926>Cynthia - mommy vibe or big sister vibe?DPPt/BW Cyn - definitely big sisterlater on - becomes mommy and then GILFI also associate this trope with herhttps://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigGood
>>5840201210 is a legal adult in poke-earth
>>58402183Volo = immortal hiker wandering the earth, especially the one from HGSS Sinjoh ruins eventRandom hiker having knowledge of Arceus = ??? Has to be Volo
>>58401926Canonically, she's like 2 years older than my real-life age (going by DP teraleak), so wife vibe.
>>58402328I am 32 years old and she is my doting big sister who holds my hand and helps me with Pokemon.
>>58393224
>>58393224the eternal Wandering Archeologist
>>58403230I'm scaroused
>>58403463Legs legs legs
>>58393224>If they ever do a Legends game 100+ years in the future, she'll cameoHer helping us ala Cogita would be kino
I hope she never goes short hair..
Gods chosen bloodline...
>>58395836The rematch is all that everyone talks about no? It must have left a really strong impression if they weren't a thing before Sinnoh.
>>58406483>The rematch is all that everyone talks about no?nah, the original DP champion fightthen the surprise BW1 Undella battleHer rematches are good too tho (especially in BDSP)
Love between pokemon and trainer
>>58393224Inigo went back to his own time, who's to say Volo didn't catch a time rift to the future
>>58406693>Ingo went back to his own timeWhere? All you see are his clothes in the museumand IIRC Emmet never saw him again, so he clearly didnt return to the present>who's to say Volo didn't catch a time rift to the futurebecause Cogita is very long-lived and Volo is related to her/her clanand his quote at the end of PLA "even if it takes me centuries" implies he will live that long
>>58406713In the museum it says he said something like "it's time to go back" and was never seen again
>>58406736>There are records of a man named Ingo providing guidance in the ways of Pokémon battle, but it is said that he simply vanished one day after stating, “It’s time for me to return.”
>>58406713idk about Volo but it seems the Ingo thing might be real unless he just fucking walked off into a cave and died where nobody could find him.
>>58406693Volo said he'd continue his quest even if it takes him millenials, implying that he could very well live that long. Considering Cogita's implied age, it isn't out of question for Volo to be long-lived aswell.
>>58406851I can kinda believe it but I have a hard time getting past Cynthia's gma being a helpless old woman when they're supposedly unaging unless they just decided to retcon that, which knowing GF they might have or just totally forgot about her. Volo could have also just meant that in the sense of traveling to the future rather than literally. Hard to say without confirmation I guess.
>>58406883Dialga hates Volo and Arceus still wants to teach that boomer a lesson therefore I doubt they'd help him with time travel. Using Celebi would also be an option but Celebi would see through Volo's heart and tell him to fuck off.
Volo has no means of time travel short of finding a random time rift that leads directly to the present time
Pokemon Legends Arceus was HIS storyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgmRh66UqHs
>>58406851>>58406883It's pretty common for a champion or messenger of the gods be afforded time to complete their mission, even if it takes an unnatural human lifespan to do it. Coupled with Arceus being a benevolent deity that detests meddling directly in the affairs of mortals, I think She would have given Cogita back that which she'd lost by agreeing to wait for Lucas - a husband, a family and the chance to finally grow old with them. 'Least that's my headcanon and I'm sticking to it. That canon points that way is just a bonus.
>>58406990I'll let it slide for now. Bonus if you screenshot my posts so you can prove me wrong when Volo eventually turns up in a game and explains it exactly the way you guys are, I could very well be completely wrong I admit just like to think of other possibilities myself.
>>58407061And I look at the reality in front of me. They made more of Cynthia in Cogita than the did of Volo, save R63'ing her and giving "him" her team. Loremistress, wanderer and tied to the region deeper than a blow-in seeking power because he thinks he's owed it. Settled in the region of the land where Cynthia was born and raised in modern Sinnoh, invested with a deep love of history and the archaeological treasures contained within. They wrote it loud and clear for those listening, everything else is just noise (but that was intentional, right down to mentioning him again in L: Z-A, they got the fujos on board so need to throw them a bone).
>>58406990>Arceus>SheArceus doesn't have a gender.
Question is: How did Volo do it? Did he freeze himself, or did he find Girantina again and hid in its Distortion World where time doesn't flow while inside?
>>58407236Either Arceus' chosen people have special genetics that allow them to age much slower than other humans or there's a secret way to immortality that only Cogita and her student (Volo) know about or Volo found a way to cheat death from his collaboration with Pokesatan.
>>58407264>>58407236He could just be long lived but don't have immortality
>>58407275Cogita's appearance is that of a young-looking 40-50 year old woman. If she was assigned her role at an early age then she's still aging, just very slowly.
>>58407157Arceus is a nymphomaniac
>>58407289hot
She will outlive her Garchomp...
>>58393224We don't know that Volo is still around, all the npc says is that he allegedly gave his outfit to the museum.He could have died before XY for all we know.
>>58407712>"nostalgic"pretty strong implication that it happened a long time after Hisui, possibly recentlywhich means Volo lived for 100-150+ years after PLA events
>>58401926Big sister
