Shiny Rocks Edition>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcglThe game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guideThere's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.>Where to find meta decks?For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decksFor online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCGFor japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417Previous thread: >>58375633Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
>>58398328What lesson did we learn from first megaevolutions regional?
>>58398328>Psyduck at 20 bucksThis can't be healthy.
>>58398328cute art
>tfw want to shitpost about the game>This place is to dead to even keep a thread up for more than a dozen postsbiggest IP off the planet, everyone. Honestly it is fucking unfair, every single other major card game has fast as fuck threads and we are here left to suffer.
>>58398983Still waiting for someone to play Slowking in a regional in this 3-prizer meta
>>58399091I wonder if people who are hoarding this shit know that it's going to be worthless as soon as they put it in prize packs
>>58401782Pokemon is in the middle of the largest leak since the last time the leak happened (technically, it's the same leak but they held this stuff back out of consideration, I guess? Doesn't explain the posting about post Z-A stuff), everyone busy shitposting about that.I'm just here because it confirms Mega Lopunny in Z-A, so maybe it'll actually get a proper card this time instead of having to share the stage with Jigglypuff.
>>58403539it literally already got revealedenjoy gooning to her
>>58401782Yugioh has mostly a player fanbase so threads are people constantly talking meta or yapping about their pet deck. MTG has players for all of formats to talk about. Meanwhile pokemon tcg is mostly collectors talking about what they should invest in.
>>58398983charizard has thicker plot armor than gardevoir.
I like the N's Zoro list that made asym in Milwaukee, Okidogi ex and cape both work really well in it. Also having all of the loyal three and pech in the same deck is pretty cool.
gardevoir did win in brazilnot all is lost, gardy gamers
>>58398983No matter what sorounds it munkidori is the strongest card in the format.
>>58404477Wait wtf that sounds fun af can you share the list?
>>58405143https://labs.limitlesstcg.com/0040/player/2105/decklist
>>58405239Thanks!
>tfw manectric and alakaZAMN were barely plaey and saw even less success >mawile completly forgotten>tcg about to die againHold me bros...
>>58407119Mawile got 9th place in brazil
How do you guys feel about using Max Belt over Legacy Energy in Ceruledge? I feel like it could give some decent utility for hitting those higher numbers quicker and more reliably ko'ing megas.
>>58407711It’s garbage
>>58407711Nah. You don't play Arven so no way to get it easily
>>58407882>>58408115Fair enough, thanks for the help.
It's a munkidori world.
>>58407119mega manetric's first attack is good against the absol deck so you can scam some wins with it at least if that becomes popular in your area
>>58410674it's hot trash against absol brother, all they do is munki 60 damage onto you and ohko you
>>58410744just amp the munkis first
Ban munkidori.
Ban generic mons that can go in every deck
>>58410830>>58409681New stadium might help?
>>58407119'Zamn is viable with all the stuff we'll get from phantasmal flames, it's already a thing in japan. We just need that sweet sweet anti-munkidori stadium to be released here.
>>58411596Im looking at mist energy and other not affected by effects of attacks effectsany workarrounds for that?Might build current zamn and fet my feet wet a little because it seems fun
>>58411620I guess you could although mist energy doesn't protect from munkidori. I'd say you lose nothing by trying it out at a local tourney except the entrance fee.
>>58411647Oh i meant that as in what do i do against a mist energy as zamn?same with that charmeleon with flare veilgust arround it?
>>58411679Run a copy or two of enhanced hammer in your deck I'd guess. Include an alternative attacker as well.
I wanna drink its juice
>>58412936I bet it’s just like kambucha
must suck to be an applefag the deck still sucks
must suck to hate applesthe deck is still fun
>>58414389>>58414423Inside of you there are two apples
>>58418161FUCK YOU CRUSTLEREEEEEEEEEEEE
Good news Baxcalibur might finally get its ex
>>58418409*shitty ex*
>>58418409>>58418776Based on what?
>>58419178
i styled on my mates at my local meet with my ZAMN deck with big hands for bigh laughseveryone seems to run only lilly, only one of them played iono and i even won against a great tusk mill with xerosicaside from one azugladis noone really plays the meta decks here aside from one dude(girl?) with severe autism that i usualy stay away fromi think ill cook a mega leaf deck next, with MEGA-Nium yan-MEGA and MEGApple
>>58420759>that i usualy stay away fromit's okay to ask him(her?) out anon
>>58418409>Gets a mega ex>Rain dance bax has long since rotatedHaving single and ex versions of a stage1/2 is fun why do they never want to have both out at the same time? Look how neat tinkaton is being able to use both, it adds a lot more depth than being 1 dimensional evolution lines
is anypne looking forward to maga chimecho?i am, but i hope its not gardi support....
>Psychic pokemonGuarantee T1+ Mega alakzam will ohko faster than hand alakazam
>>58421461>Look how neat tinkaton is being able to use bothYou're not a Tinkaton player i see, also having a useful stage 1 is much better than having a several stage 2s.
>>58421513gardevoir isn't even going to be a deck by that time
>>58421576>also having a useful stage 1 is much better than having a several stage 2s.Well yeah getting a good stage1 which isn't just a rare candy brick helps consistency the most. Still getting multiple stage 2s to work with means they'll print another stage1 which is potentially good. As it's unlikely both stage 2s are in the same set. That's why gardevoir had so much support, it got a ton of ralts/kirlia from all the gardy/gallades printed
>is getting a mega>iono is rotating mite b cool
Trainer's toolkit 2025 contents.https://youtu.be/5MDygqJGHO0
>>58422709ah yes the ace spec everyone uses, hyper aroma. who needs secret box anyway
Just buy secret box, poorfags
it's 12 bux now, not that big a deal it's funny that fez isn't even going to drop in price because nobody is gonna be able to find this fucking thing
So is this considered EZ Mode?
>>58418161What makes garde broken when Mega Absol EX and Mega charizard ex exist?
>>58418161Add this fucking piece of shit to UBER SSS+ or something
>>58423821It attacks with 1 prize attackers. Even if you ko their gardy, their attacker is still on field ready to ohko you againThat's why gardy is so weak to multi prize kos, if you're able to also snipe/remove their attacker after gusting up gardy.
>>58423977Just play crustle :)
Any tips to improve this deck? I keep getting my ass kicked in TCG Live.Play the exact deck IRL so might as well get the new cards needed. I'm new and recently started playing so I'm still learning how to play it well.
>>58423977He saved us from the stupid Make It Rain piece of shit
>>58424446watch the last big event a lot of people were playing this deck minus the mega stuff
>>58424484Any links?
>>58424497https://www.youtube.com/@PlayPokemon
>>58424446Ultra ball is way too good in Garde to not play 4. Secret Box is the better ace spec too. I don't know about playing both Driftloon and Mega Garde, just Driftloon is probably enough. I'd probably add a Fez as well.
>>58424497>>58424513i forgor this one as wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HC7NxiRyJg&list=PL1ZXmduPrAdklenA1VEvTYy-sNLomF2O2
>>58424497https://limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/523
>>58424514Secret costs more than I'm willing to spend on real cards but I could test it on Live.The idea of the Ultras is to just discard Psy energies right? Basically I have to choose between normal Garde or Mega Garde depending on who I get first?>>58424513>>58424519>>58424527Thank you anons
>>58424558The choice is always normal Garde. The engine of the deck is discarding psyhics and abusing nomarl Garde's ability.
>>58424446this is the first place list from brazil this past weekend, I would just copy it
bump
>>58423673I'd say Charizard far easier and Gholdengo is quite literally braindead.
>>58424558>Secret costs more than I'm willing to spend on real cardsSwitch to another deck then.
>>58398983whoever plays more munkidori generally wins
>>58398983Mega Symphonia and Mega Brave are far better names for an expansion than "Mega Evolutions".
>>58398983Everyone misjudged absol and kanga
>>58428025I don't think it will thrive, it's just a case of Hop's Zacian ex where it does good because it's new then falls off the moment people figure how to play against it / run tech to counter it.The sad thing is how Mega Venusaur didn't even got this, it was born dead despite all the hype some people were putting behind it and we don't even have a good fire deck.
>>58424514What's better on a Mega Garde deck, fez ex or mew ex?
>>58428306both?
>>58428314But if I could just get one?
>>58428401save up for the other one
>>58428306If you can only get one then fez as it is staple on pretty much any other deck.
>>58428025There was no way to predict Absol being good
>>58429744Well clearly there was as it got plenty of representation at the regional. The writing was on the wall, getting 6 damage counters on the enemy active is trivial with munkidori around.
EVERY FUCKING DECK IS MUNKIDORI EVERY FUCKING MATCH IS AGAINST MUNKIDORI. Im tired man.
Monkes together strong
Why did this attack hit for 150 with only two energies?
>>58430400For context, my active had none.
>>58430400meganium doubles all grass energies ogerpon had 44 x 30 = 120 + the 30 base attack damage = 150
Reading is hard.
>>58430444I play Balatro I'm sorry
Is Arven a good replacement for Secret Box?
>>58430567Not really if you're talking about for Gardy or Grimmsnarl since the former wants to discard psychic energy with the box and latter wants to get the stadium up.
>>58428314>>58427574jfc all this for just three cardsIs Secret Box that much of a game changer? I just wanted to get into this casually
>>58430655Secret box is not as necessary on grimmsnarl tbqh, unfair stamp has got me many games before.>>58430705Nah, you can easily run brilliant blender instead of secret box in gardy. It's like running the deck at 85% of its power so still very solid. The broken thing about that deck is gardevoir ex itself.
>>58430751Hey Brilliant blender sounds good.I will still have to buy fez but at least it's just ONE expensive card instead of three
>>58430859Yeah and you will be able to use it in other decks once Gardevoir rotates next april.
>>58430966That means I'll have to say goodbye to this deck? I guess I got into the TCG too late in my life it seems, I'll get to enjoy it for less than a year.
>>58431275Yeah, all cards with a G regulation mark will stop being legal. And I doubt Mega Gardy is powerful enough to sustain a deck by herself.
>>58431316Fuck, I got into this precisely because Gardy is my favorite pokemon and I knew I'd only enjoy this with the pokemon I like.I don't think they'll release a new garde to replace it. How do people keep playing without their favorite cards?
>>58431332Usually most people like more than one pokemon.
>>58431354I hope at least all my trainer cards are useful for the next rotatoin. That way I'd only have to change the pokemon.
These are currently the relevant cards we'll lose to rotation next year.
>>58431422Shit I play at least 22 cards there, I don't know if I'll be able to keep playing next year.I literally got to enjoy TCG for less than a year, fuck.
>>58431364Arven, Iono, Artazon and earthen Vessel are going to rotate out I believe.
>>58431440I literally won't be able to keep playing, I bought my deck way too late.
>>58431422>TM evo rotating outBudew is going to absolutely dominate post rotation.
>>58431449Well we are far enough from rotation for you to sell your regulation G cards at the same price you bought them then build a rotation proof deck like Grimmsnarl or whatever.
>>58431449Maybe stop being poor?
>>58431471Maybe stop being a gatekeeping asshole>>58431464Got any recommendations for easy to play and build rotation proof decks similar to Gardy?
>>58431481If you mean setting up and abusing munkidori then Grimmsnarl and Absol seem good. If you rather like one prizers doing big numbers then there is an Alakazam deck that might be worth looking into next month once Phantasmal Flames release.
brother you have 6 months to rake someones leaves, shovel their driveway, suck a cock, etc.it's not expensive to build a deck
>>58431514Not him but if you don't think cards like Fez, Mew, Mega Absol, Mega Charizard, Secret Box, Mega Lucario and such don't add up rather quick I don't know what to tell you.
>>58431481Pokemon is like the most accesible card game out there, you can literally built a top of the meta deck for like $60 whereas in other games some cards cost just that and you need 4 of them lol
>>58431524every single card you mentioned could be bought after 1 shift at a gas station
>>58431549You say a single deck costs no more than 60 to make. In at least 4 of those cards you already have more than 60.
>>58431576did you reply to the wrong post or something?
>>58431524Just how many decks are you trying to build? Also none of those will rotate out this april.
>>58431576Check for yourself how much decks cost. Psyduck and the megas are inflated in price, they will go down in due time. Pic related won the whole regional.https://limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/523
>>58431627Eh you're right, I'm just being a doomer bummed by the fact the deck I spent roughly $70usd in my currency building will be obsolete and worthless in less than a yearh when I just got into this.Feels like wasted money in something that will die soon. I'm indirectly just looking for some kind of sign telling me I didn't actually waste a ton of money for kicks.
>>58431452I'd love to see a babymon that just acts as a 1 pokemon TM evo for it's attack. Make it Smoochum's or Igglybuff's attack
>>58431481the current way to play gardevoir is similar to grim and pult. but gardevoir was also a toolbox deck where you can add in different attackers to retreat lock, bench snipe, one shot, wall, etc and I don't think there is anything like that yet. there's still 2 or 3 more sets left before rotation so you'll have a better idea what you want to play as we get closer to next year.
>>58431670The cards you bought have retained their value. Sell the whole thing for the same price you bought it and be done with it.
>>58431439>I don't know if I'll be able to keep playing next year.Most trainer staples are dirt cheap (only ace specs cost a bit)Only the pokemon will be a bit more and even then those aren't usually much either, you can reuse core trainer staples like ultraball/lillie/boss etc across literally every deck PTCG is very cost friendly for a TCG. Partly due to collectors mass buying stuff and getting rid of the "bulk" regular versions we play with. And that all cards (except ace specs) have lower rarity versions that are cheaper, unlike TCG like yugioh where core cards can be the rarest card in the set. Here we have generic low rarity for everything that are easy to get hold of thanks to the former point
>>58431707Gardevoir being my favorite pokemon was literally the only reason I got into this, and I hardly think any of my other favorite pokemon have decks revolving arond them sadly.Like, I don't think there's Natu EX out there or something.I think there's Nidoking EX going around with the letter I in it which if I understand correctly, means it'll rotate in 2027, right?>>58431716Yeah but then I won't be able to play NOW.>>58431721Yeah that's something I've noticed with the pricier cards being the Full Art versions of those and even then, that's just for flaunting one's wallet anyway.I guess if could starting making something around Rocket's Nidoking EX or something unless I'm understanding rotations wrong.
>>58431746Do NOT fall for the Team Rocket meme, it's shit. Just enjoy your time with Gardevoir, $70 for 6 months of fun doesn't seem like a bad deal.
>>58431770Well comparing their abilities it sure is night and day compared to Garde or Absol.Yeah $70 realistically isn't a lot specially for 6 months but when you're unemployed like me and only surviving via small gigs everything is expensive.
>>58431746Oh and the pricier cards from your deck will still be around after rotation (fez, secret box, mew) so don't worry too much about it. You can play Gardevoir for the remaining time then sell the expensive cards right after rotation to get most of your money back.
>>58428025I think it's less mega absol and kangaskhan and more just running a 280-350HP statcheck that if it's not killed in one hit they instantly lose the game because of yveltal and munkidori spam
>>58431797>>58431770>>58431721>>58431716>>58431627Also, usually my hate for pokemon designs and games only increases with each passing gen with me absolutely despising SwSh and SV pokemon (shocker) but apparently Ceruledge EX is another braindead card that's going to be massively played.How does one start building a deck? Is there a Level 3 deck containing these cards and you customize it slowly or start from literal scratch buying loose Ceruledges?
>>58431746>Yeah that's something I've noticed with the pricier cards being the Full Art versionsYeah full art/SR cards are much more expensive because collectors love buying those to collect, grade or resell. FA/SR items/energy/stadiums are often cheaper because they don't have the visual appeal that pokemon/trainers do for collectors. It's not worth buying FA stuff anyway outside collecting. It feels bad having them get damaged from play compare to just using a 50 cents regular copy>I guess if could starting making something around Rocket's Nidoking EX or something unless I'm understanding rotations wrong.Rockets nidoking is still in rotation, any trainers like the ones listed on that image wouldn't be available tho (Basically anything with a G letter in the corner is gone unless it has a reprint with H/I/J letter). It doesn't lose too much to rotation but nidokings not a very good deck in general tho. It'd be cheap to get the regular cards for it since it's not competitive
>spamming Ceruledge-EX to rush to Master League before season endsI'm at ~260 and I'm already bored.
>>58431822>How does one start building a deck?Honestly just copy someones netdeck list. Then edit it afterwards with your own additions/preferences. That's what basically everyone does instead of building from scratch.Even when new cards come out people reuse core decks but replace the pokemon lines with the new one (swapping charizard for greninja for example) to see how it works with a well known trainer baseline, then they edit from then to better fit the new pokemon. but yeah especially if you're new just stick with copying a deck and when you're more familiar/find your preferences with it then start editing. it's just like the games, people recommend 252 EVs instead of something fancy. you do the fancy specific EVs once you're more familiar with how you want the pokemon to work
>>58431842At least you don't drop as far from season resets now
>>58431867Oh yeah, that's what I did with Garde, but what I meant was how one goes with getting the actual cards.I noticed CeruEX is aronud 8 per card, people just cough up the money for hte individual cards? Can we expect an official level 3 deck to be sold in the near future or is it going to be cheaper to just buy the cards for $25?
>>58431892https://www.pokemon.com/uk/pokemon-tcg/product-gallery/mega-battle-deck-mega-gengar-ex-mega-battle-deck-mega-diancie-exThe upcoming battle decks are mega diance/gengar, so not ceruledge. With pokemon lines you kinda just have to bite the bullet buying them. Ceruledge recently has gotten a lot of hype since it's come back into the meta with the lunatone/solrock engine that's why it's spiked in price, before it wasn't that much. It might drops a bit when the hype wears off a bit, or could rise if it keeps seeing competitive success, that's the risk you take when waiting/buying cards trying to hold out for when they're cheaper.
>>58431985I can see myself playing any of those too, I have a soft spot for Gengar and Meloetta. But seeing these are Level 2 decks I guess they still won't be AS good but for a casual like me, they might be good enough.Thanks anon
>>58431887last ladder i didn't even bother because it was BW-on and the ladder was 90% gardevoir or dragapultthis time there's an absurd amount of the absol munkidori yveltal deckbut really all they are doing is hoping i can't oneshot mega kangaskhan in terms of myself pitching enough energy and finding maximum belt
>>58432052Diance is kinda mid, gardevoir sometimes runs 1 in it to OHKO dragapult with clefairy and have enough HP to not be OHKO back, but that's itGengar has a very strong ability for any dark deck. Some charizard lists run it to make charizard only give 1 prize. Even as it's own thing mega gengar would be far far better than nidoking will beThe lvl1/2/3 stuff on decks doesn't really mean much, that's just how difficult the prebuilt deck is to play. Not how viable the cards there are themselves. Chien-pao's one was lvl1 when it was peak meta
>>58432091diance is best in the grimm matchup where it once shots without being dark weak
>>58432114It doesn't ohko grim tho, it's capped at 240 (or with +40 munki pings)It's use for dragapult primarily. And can be used to wall a turn if they can't ohko it
>>58432142it's 300 with two munki, dead if froslass is in playgrimm is very popular over there and so the diancie is a popular inclusion
>>58431746gardevoir has been in competitively viable decks more than once. gardy gets the kanto treatment in the tcg so it wouldn't surprise me if the pokemon shows up again in the future.
>>58432217Yeah it's a popular pokemon at Charizard levels of popular.
>>58432352Not even popularity wise, the tcg devs just have a thing for gardevoir and giving it some of the strongest designed cards in every meta. It's gotten the most competitive viable cards out of any pokemon, it's not even a contest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdJ-mGdptTA
>>58432435Guess I'll just wait for next rotation's Gardy.
>queue up with gardevoir>opponent flips over riolu winning this hard feels bad
>>58432710I just concede if I vs gardy while doing my fighting dailies. It's straight up unwinnable. They need to print better means to deal with weakness, not outright remove it because megas would be unstoppable then but at least so match ups like psychic into lucario aren't 1 sided stomps
motherfuckers charging $20 for a challenge around here suck my cock for that price
>>58430705Go to your local league and trade/buy there, typically it's cheaper
>>58433155Maybe run some "ground-type" Pokemon that aren't weak to psychic, or if there's any Tera cards that use fighting and hit for darkness
>>58434355what challenge?
>>58430268
good thing we printed it as a completely unpunishable 110hp basic otherwise people might actually be able to play around it lol lmao
>>58433732Hehe to the void with you >:3 now time to eep
Why does TCGplayer take so long for cards to ship? Holy crap, I just need a singular regular Mew ex for a deck.I'm such an idiot for selling my full art and gold Mew ex before rotation. I thought I owned the regular version of that card.
>>58436456Just play without Mew bro, it's not so bad.
the definition of predetermined matches in ranked is when you go against an yveltal munkidori abuser, your turo's scenario and 1 of your jet energy are prized and your other jet energy just so conveniently is the absolute last card in your deck
how do people even lose playing gardevoir outside of brickingare they just retarded or something
Is Mega Latias any good for a “starter” deck attempt? I like the birds and the mega form is cool enough.
>>58438160Yeah you can make it work. There's 2 variants of mega latias aroundOne is using poison and the first attack to swap into pecharunt Second is using ho-oh to accelerate fire energy then switching and having latios ability to move it onto mega latias, then attach psychic to hit 300 https://pokecabook.com/archives/237013The poison ones the more popular way to play since you can still attack for 300 later there also. The ho-oh version is just turbo 300
>>58438223Cool, thanks for the info. Was gonna nab a Mega Latias box cause opening card packs is fun and then list build from there.
>finally feel like palying tcglive again>update needs reinstall>all the motivation wiped away instantlyle sigh
>>58438730The mega update needed it, and then unity updated forcing another redownload. Since then it updates itself normally in client
STOP POSTING ABOUT MUNKIDORI! I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT, MY FRIENDS ON TIKTOK SEND ME "MUNKIDORI IS BROKEN", ON DISCORD ITS FUCKING "MUNKIDORI IS BROKEN". I WAS IN A SERVER, RIGHT AND AAAAAAALLLLLLL OF THE CHANNELS ARE JUST BAN MUNKIDORI STUFF. I SHOWED A PICTURE OF MUNKIDORI TO MY GIRLFRIEND AND SAID "HEY BABE, WHEN THE ADRENA-BRAIN HAS NO ONCE-PER-TURN LIMIT" HAHA DING DING DING DING DING DING DING, DING DING DING, I FUCKING LOOKED AT A TRASH CAN AND I SAID "THAT'S NOT MUNKIDORI" I GO FOR A DRIVE AND MY CAR BREAKS DOWN AND I THINK "STILL NOT AS BROKEN AS MUNKIDORI" AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
love gardevoir
GIVE ME LUSAMINE BOSS'S ORDERS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>stick
>>58441270*Guzma boss's order
Lillie's Clefairy in Japanese is Lillie's PeePee.
I just hope Canari gets a good meta card like Iono did
>>58442339I wonder if they'll make her a hand disruption supporter to replace iono
Munkidori
>>58442593My hand is going to cause lots of disruption once her full art is revealed.
>>58442625Stop it.
Munki-ACK AIIIIIEEEEEE
>>58444840>tfw some kid running a megalucario deck got paired against me rocking a gardyCHAD deckLMAOMAOFurfaggots when will they ever learn?
can we fast forward to wind and waves newmon cards and skip all the mega cards that are coming?>there is some poor artist that has to draw mega skibidi feralitoiletr
>you HAVE to be able to oneshot a 300HP+ pokemon on turn 2 or else you lose instantly and there's nothing you can do about itno one saw this coming
>>58442633My hands are disrupted and busy after seeing her tummy
>>58444096just fucking ban munkidori insteadyou can't punish it and you can't play around it
>>58445291>designated favoured sister instant win deck of the format>chadlol lmao
>>58445938You tried NOT attacking turn2? Just set up until you're able toAlso you guys know we'll get anti-mega pokemon cards soon enough. Like mimikyu, regigigas, mega catcher etc
>>58446067then they use boss' orders and you diegg good luck in 2 years time
>>58446043>Dude just ban 80% of the meta broooo
>>58446130yeah unfair cards that can't be punished or played around tend to end up in every deckthat's kind of how it works since it means you win more often
>>58446141>wah waaah my favorite shitmon is not meta please ban the good cards!!!At that point why stop at munkidori? Let's also ban fezandipiti as he is in every deck too and let's not forget about trainer cards everyone uses!
>cheatape abuser whataboutism
Miss me yet?
>>58445938ez
>>58446185fez is a liability on the field and often times game deciding if you knock it out>>58446317im dicking arround with apple,yanmega and meganium but cant seem to find a mix that just works
>>58446300no since they decided it was a fantastic idea to refuse to print any tool removal trainer cards and then autistically gestured at a 40hp rattata as though abilities work under garbotoxincue 95% of people playing either yveltal garb or toad garb and nothing else at all
>>58446401here's my current list if you want to try ithttps://pokemoncard.io/deck/apples-119945It's been both real good and real bad when I play irl, so I'm thinking of chaing the legacy for a secret box, or adding hildas and pokegears. Also I had rabsca in and took it out to make space, but I lost some games vs pult for not being able to set up fast so I'm thinking of putting it back in. Just not sure what to change yet
>>58446549>delta species chicorita linei played that as a wee lad >20 years agoFUCKalso i hate that teal mask is so fucking strong, i struggle with finding and drawing shit the most with yanmega
>>58446583oh right, those, the forest and lillie are placeholders for the new shit lol>FUCKindeed, my kind sir, indeed>yanmegaI'd say lose it kek as with meganium your hydrapple and ogerpon are stupid strongsee >>58430400
I'm going to click through this one reward at a time.
>>58447599i bet you crash before 80
>>58447599I wouldn't wish this hell on anyone. That's 10 Clawitzers I pulled.
>mega venusaur gamer bosses my gardevoir and hits it for 240>has all his energy stacked on venusaur to protect them>retreat into drifloon and do 390 damagelol
>>58448114Kek
Anyone here speculating on cards? How would you recommend a new gambler get started? Is it worth it to gamble on buying NM vintage and grading and hope for PSA 9s and 10s? Or is it better to try to find undervalued modern cards?
>>58450043I would say you'd be better off investing in the stock market than in cardboard when it comes to actually making money long term.
>>58450043Buy out all the dangerous lasers. It's the next card to moon because it'll be used in every deck and it's not getting reprinted any time soon.
>>58448114>play typhlosion+dracloak>play against mega venusaur>open dreepy>play poffin for 2 cindaquil>he concedes
>>58450043>>58451574Solid advice. Be sure to pick up Amulet of Hope while you still can, once rotation hits it is going to skyrocket in price.
>>58448114yeah if you can't do 300+ in a single turn you usually losethe statcheck right now is fucking mentalit's the whole tag teams meta except way worse
>>58446696i dont really want to play tealmask, but im always missing something when playing this deckmight just give up and go back to toedscruel ex
>>58452229>Arven rotates>Town store rotatesTools are going down in value once rotation happens
>>58453778Petrel stonks
>>58453374>i dont really want to winftfy
>>58454128Unless they add another item+something else supporter like arven, petrel being an og skyla will make a return
farfetch'd will save tools
>>58454231>TMs are gone>It hogs the tool for itselfif it put it into your hand it would've saved tools. the tools are worthless on this duck now
>>58446043munkidori is easy to deal with if you know how to control the damage tennissometimes it's best to put it on something you'll KO anyway to get it out of the playing field
i don't know about you but i think if people are playing decks that don't run any evolutions, don't run any energy and don't try and attack and they're winning with it, then perhaps some people on the design team aren't very good at their jobs
>>58454443what deck is this
>>58454547it was m-kanga with bouffalant and then presumably every "comeback" card going (since pokemon doesn't understand that comeback mechanics are meant to put you back into the game and not act as their own win condition) where if you can't hit for 390 they just full heal it with penny & pal pads and you losedeck runs no energy and no attackers except maybe a single blood moonbut basically it's a deck that shouldn't exist
>>58454568wait really? how does it win?
>>58454571they probably just wait for you to finally kill something and begin spamming counter catchers and gravity stones so you're stuck in the active with something that can't attack and you just deck out before they dothat or it's just there to waste your time
>>58454443>>58454568He returns
>>58454626they don't learn from mistakes very well
