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do they actually intentionally pick the worst option that is available to them every time now? It really seems like every single interesting or even passable decision they make, those rarities, are their "mistakes" and they would otherwise intentionally sink the ship if they could.
They don't even have the crippling pattern autism, or tons of execs from nintendo and tpci breathing down their necks, or anything like that that would otherwise explain their behavior. They literally just all have complete shit taste. Imagine having the reins of the single largest franchise in the world and getting to make whatever you want and just making... well, everything they've made for at least the better part of a decade.
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You know when you play too many games on Showdown and start to tilt and just play really badly? Imagine that but developing Pokemon and , unlike on Showdown, you can't just take a break to cool down and mentally reset.
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>>58401479
i like mega victreebel
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>>58401479
This is what happens when you consume nothing but anime content for decades. You confuse gags, anime girls and ridiculous aesthetics for actual substance. This is why almost nothing Japan has produced in the past decade's been any good except in the eyes of weebs and gacha whales who refuse to consume anything else.
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>>58401785
This, there's a reason some of our most hated media of all time is from japan.
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>>58401785
Baldur's Gate 3 rightfully winning GOTY in 2023 thankfully sent Japan on its final death spiral into permanent irrelevance.
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>>58401800
>this is what the people who say "anime website" enjoy
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>>58401843
Xenoblade 2 has long been 4chan's most hated game of the 2010s -- the ENTIRE game is like this

>>58401785
So glad 4chan is finally turning against Japan as of this year.
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>>58401785
>>58401800
>>58401817
>>58401843
Is it happening /v/? Is 4chan finally done with japan's bullshit?
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>>58401800
>"You were staring, didn't you?"
I'm not the one dressed like a walking red light district coated in gold and gem ornaments.
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>>58401785
>>58401800
We call anime "tranime" for a reason. So glad 4chan is BTFOing japan so hard recently.
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>>58401881
>Is 4chan finally done with MODERN japan's bullshit?
Not gonna lie, some recent stuff is good, and even great.
But is obvious that, after anime and manga made it big in the west, most artworks are just wank baits that sell slop that will either die in a meme room or in the funny green site. You will rarely see another NGE, or Gurren Laggan, or even a Fumoffu. Moe was a curse for the modern man.
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>>58401955
>But is obvious that, after anime and manga made it big in the west, most artworks are just wank baits that sell slop that will either die in a meme room or in the funny green site.
Which is what we call: "tranime"

All Japanese media after 2008 is universally agreed to be horrible by 4chan.
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>>58401800
These boobs are perfect.
>>58401479
I have pity for him. He looks like he dies. Poor boy. Fuck gamefreak! They don't deserve Pokemon anymore.
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>>58401955
Modern Japan cannot make anything good, just pedophile gooner slop for people who don't know what the age of consent is.
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>>58401955
Apparently japan is full of pedos nowadays, ewwwww explains the rearded lolis sexualization tho
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>>58401785
Kek holy based 4chan BTFOing Japan
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>>58401996
>that comic
its giving maga trump i'm afraid
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>>58401479
unironically I think they like subverting expectations. Hence why Mega Feraligatr is something unexpected instead of a cool style evo
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>>58401996
>Japan
>pedo
>nowadays
You never watched an old anime not even original Dragonball nor are you aware of any of Gamefreak's old works pre-Pokemon but even Pokemon counts.
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>>58402055
I remember the OG Dragonball, and sure, it was as sloppy as any teen adventure at the time.
The good thing is that the shonen aspect was pushed when it started to gather an audience. So by the time it was the saiyan/early Namek saga, everyone was waiting to see rad battles between the Z team vs aliens, not Bulma and Chi Chi walking around in loose garments.
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>>58401996
and that’s a good thing
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>>58401996
>nowadays
Even old kids anime features little girls being sexually harassed as a gag. Doraemon (very popular series over there) for example
This isn't a recent development at all
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Is this the new sharty strategy, discredit a post by samefagging false support for it?
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>>58402277
op here, that's been a 4chan staple for at least 2 decades. Not sure why my thread derailed so fast though.
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>>58401479
What are you doing to do about it?
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>>58402043
But now everybody expects everything to be shit
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>>58402174
No it's not
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>>58401479
it's corporate sabotage
pic near completely unrelated because it's an artifact from when they at least pretended to try
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>>58402277
i figured it was a specific person on /vp/, i've been seeing a lot of "FUCK JAPAN WE 4chan USERS HATE JAPAN" posts recently
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>>58401921
She, her twin that's actually her split personality, and a Welsh catgirl fuck him and have babies with him btw
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>>58403914
This was always bullshit by the way, or it only applied to non-shillmons.
As of L:Z-A, Charizard's had its T-Rex arms elongated to be practical, and all of its original belly fat is gone, letting it fully lean into the "badass fire dragon" aesthetic.
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>>58405026
>Triple pussy smash
I consider that a win, and a massive hole in finances.
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>>58402042
Qrd?
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>>58401859
>Xenoblade 2 has long been 4chan's most hated game of the 2010s -- the ENTIRE game is like this
as someone who actually played it, yes but also no
there's like five total unfunny slapstick anime scenes in the main story and they're all specifically on even numbered chapters because there were two writers and one of them wanted silly anime shenanigans while the other was actually making an attempt

there's also a big number of sidequest pseudo-optional party members (probably also split by writer) that are essentially a completely random selection of fuckheads that range from actual attempts at characters to shitty anime tropes, and all of them have their own sidequests. one of the ones in the latter category are where that one cringe dance webm that lives rent free in /v/'s head originated from
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>>58403914
yeah for real, if luxray were made today they would have made the fur on its head stretch out twice as far because 'its a reference to static electricity!!!!!! haha!!!!!!!'
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>>58401479
Death!
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>>58405237
To this day I wonder how the Hell the Xeno saga became so bloody popular when it has every bloody trope that should actually kill it out of self-induced cringe.
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Remember that the people attacking the new megas defend with their lives this piece of shit, Slowbro, Ampharos, etc
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>>58405310
mega manectric, slowbro, and ampharos ARE better than mega starmie, dragonite, and feraligatr. Some old megas are good and some are bad. Same with new ones. Stop being a tribalist retard.
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>>58405321
Fuck no they aren't Mega Starmie mogs literally any other Mega water Pokemon we've gotten, period. It's funny, it plays around how Starmie moved in Colosseum down to it's tendency to do backflips and flail around like he's dancing.
Oh wait I forgot more than half of /vp/ is underage and hasnt played a single Stadium, Colosseum or Revolution game, kill yourself.
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>>58405310
still a pretty shit mega but it doesn't feel like it was designed for the sole purpose of being memed on so I have infinitely more respect for it
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>>58405356
I feel that, yeah, "looks like thunder, haha", but I feel he would also have a Spd and Sp Atk boost. Something that says "run fast, hit fast, damage harder!"
I wonder if he was meant to have Volt Tackle during his Mega evolution.
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>>58405356
It was designed like that because it's name Ribolt in Japanese so they made him a literal thunderbolt. That's it. That's the entire basis of that mega.
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>>58405352
man shut the fuck up about this weird elitist shit, I love all of those games and still think it's a shit mega
but mega starmie isn't bad because it has wacky dance animations, it's bad because they did literally nothing to the design and thought long legs and silly animations were a substitute for an actual design

if they made an actual attempt on its appearance instead of feeling like solely like designers going 'hey wouldn't it be really funny if we had a mega where we changed nothing but the way it moves' I might would actually like it
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>>58405307
Because unfortunately the audience for those games are just as cringe and don't consume anything else.
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>>58405385
never said it was inspired design, just that it wasn't memebait
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>>58401800
>our
Lol fuck off retard.
The amount of samefagging on this post is absurd.
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>>58405307
It’s not supremely popular, but it has story beats that hit really hard and the general idea behind them is generally seen as cool.
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>>58401996
Game freak is unironically full of pedos. Ohmori was arrested for CP but Masuda bailed him out and hired him because pedos are easy to blackmail and control

The "Pedo Freak" shitpost was more accurate than we thought
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>>58405394
>it's bad because they did literally nothing to the design and thought long legs and silly animations were a substitute for an actual design
It already had silly animations that they have used during the anime and the aforementioned games. You're just seeing it in an environment that allows it to actually be put into the scenario of an action game. And what's wrong with the long legs again? It functions perfectly with the animations given to Starmie. the stats given complement the given physique. You dislike it purely because it doesn't look "cool" or simply because in your head megas cannot possibly be fun concepts when given to unserious pokemon.
At that point, it's just Digimon.
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>>58405352
mega starmie is complete shit. It's stupid. It's complete and utter shit. Kill yourself.
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>>58401800
>Japanese """""humour"""""
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>>58405352
>it's a reference so it's good!
>it's le funny!
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>>58401636
I do too. Mega Starmie is inexcusable, though.
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>>58405430
are you illiterate? how did you miss the entire point of my post where I said I dislike it because they did literally nothing different with the design besides the legs and the animations, and did not actually mind the goofier animations
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>>58405449
So what's there to dislike? That they didn't overdesign it like Dragalge? What do you feel is lacking to the design, can you even explain it yourself other than saying "they should have done more"?
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>>58405459
>they changed nothing
>OH SO YOU WANTED IT TO BE OVERDESIGNED HUH? WHAT POSSIBLE CHANGES COULD THEY HAVE MADE OTHER THAN WHAT THEY DID? CAN YOU EVEN SUGGEST A CHANGE HUH DESIGN ONE FOR ME NOW OR YOU'RE WRONG
kill yaself nig
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>no argument
should have figured it was a shitposter.
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>>58405430
They should have gone this route instead of just slapping the model on captain falcon's skeleton.
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>>58405497
I could get behind Starmie getting realistic human limbs and legs with a head popping out but that would alienate (heh) a lot of people
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>>58405459
if we're using your own logic, starmie always had silly animations means that the new animations are barely even a departure from the base design. which would mean the mega is nothing but longer legs, an extremely slight saturation boost, and slightly longer prongs on the gem casing
do you seriously mean to tell me that there isn't a single other thing they could have done to differentiate it from the base design without making it """""overdesigned"""""?
>changing the base color to something new the way starmie originally did with staryu
>changing even just the gem color to be different
>bringing back the element of the gold band wrapping around the star originally seen in staryu
>changing the back layer of star to be a different color than the front star, possibly along the lines of that one shooting star mega that was posted a few weeks back?
>having the legs and arms be split between the front and back of the Pokémon, letting it still maintain the same general idea and animations but playing into the alien-imitator concept by having the arms and legs visibly disconnected from one-another?
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>>58405508
I don't think they could alienate much more than the current design already has. Basically everyone is shitting on it. At least this one would have a few fans.
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>>58401479
they dont have time for good ideas
I'm serious, they really dont, their shit is all fucked up
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>>58401785
And yet, it all remains better than western media for the moment, but not the foreseeable future.
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>>58405526
not him (obviously hopefully) but I was hoping that starmie would get levitate and become more of a flying saucer, with it focusing on changing the gem and the fact that it has the spinning section on its back.
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>>58405459
Not the poster, but I felt Mega Starmie would've been... More majestic?

Like, Megas back in Gen 6 seemed like they generally made Pokemon feel more intense, or threatening, or cool. Swampert and Slowbro were rare exceptions, but at least it felt appropriate for Slowbro.

A lot of Megas in LAZ feel like they pushed the absurd or funny factor instead. Like, they make an exaggerated part of the design even more ridiculously exaggerated. And they didn't just do this to inherently goofy Pokemon, either. Starmie always had this kind of weird, undefinable, alien vibe to it. It's a form of life that defies the qualities and aesthetics that are more usual to the Pokemon world. And its Mega looks like Danny Devito stuffed into a star-shaped bodysuit instead of a couch cushion. And I could say the same shit about Mega Cefable, Skarmory, and Excadrill as well. The tone of these new designs just clashes with what's already been established.
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>>58405547
if the leaks are accurate and they're indeed giving second megas to regular mons, I'd be down for giving starmie a second mega later down the line
it'd be a lot easier for people to stomach the quirkier designs if they weren't the only available option. it's why regular new mons and regionals can get away with it while crossgens and megas get significantly more flak
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>>58405546
Being better than the bottom of the barrel doesn't make you the best. You are still at the bottom.
If you want the top, you have to go with a vision, and reach to it. Worst thing happens, you'll crash and burn, only leaving a fat corpse ready to be teared apart by content vultures and cheap banting. But if you make it, you'll take your place in history as one of the best examples of the artistic media.
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>>58403914
Retards who spam this image don't understand it. Sugimori's philosophy is that well-chosen imperfections add to the charm of the design, and he's kinda right.
Even shitmons have their fans.
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>>58405591
the keyword is well-chosen
the issue with a lot of newer designs is that instead of the imperfections being made to round out the designs, the perfections are being made the outright cornerstone of it
opinions are naturally varied and different people have different tolerances for different thigns, but it's easier for the majority of people to look past an imperfection when it's not distractingly protruding out of the design like a tumor
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>>58405616
>the perfections
*imperfections, dunno how I misspelled that one
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>>58405532
As expected. They completely shifted their priority towards the merchandising very early, and now that they've grown this gigantic, they literally cannot support the weight without it costing the quality of the non-merchandise products.
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>>58401785
/thread
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>>58402055
>game freak were OG minky momo lolicons
Holy fucking based.
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>>58402055
Sugimoribros..
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>>58405547
A thematically appropriate evolution that's transformative and has a specific, intuitive idea? No, we can't have that. Too obvious. Need to subvert expectations :)



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