do they actually intentionally pick the worst option that is available to them every time now? It really seems like every single interesting or even passable decision they make, those rarities, are their "mistakes" and they would otherwise intentionally sink the ship if they could.They don't even have the crippling pattern autism, or tons of execs from nintendo and tpci breathing down their necks, or anything like that that would otherwise explain their behavior. They literally just all have complete shit taste. Imagine having the reins of the single largest franchise in the world and getting to make whatever you want and just making... well, everything they've made for at least the better part of a decade.
You know when you play too many games on Showdown and start to tilt and just play really badly? Imagine that but developing Pokemon and , unlike on Showdown, you can't just take a break to cool down and mentally reset.
>>58401479i like mega victreebel
>>58401479This is what happens when you consume nothing but anime content for decades. You confuse gags, anime girls and ridiculous aesthetics for actual substance. This is why almost nothing Japan has produced in the past decade's been any good except in the eyes of weebs and gacha whales who refuse to consume anything else.
>>58401785This, there's a reason some of our most hated media of all time is from japan.
>>58401785Baldur's Gate 3 rightfully winning GOTY in 2023 thankfully sent Japan on its final death spiral into permanent irrelevance.
>>58401800>this is what the people who say "anime website" enjoy
>>58401843Xenoblade 2 has long been 4chan's most hated game of the 2010s -- the ENTIRE game is like this>>58401785So glad 4chan is finally turning against Japan as of this year.
>>58401785>>58401800>>58401817>>58401843Is it happening /v/? Is 4chan finally done with japan's bullshit?
>>58401800>"You were staring, didn't you?"I'm not the one dressed like a walking red light district coated in gold and gem ornaments.
>>58401785>>58401800We call anime "tranime" for a reason. So glad 4chan is BTFOing japan so hard recently.
>>58401881>Is 4chan finally done with MODERN japan's bullshit?Not gonna lie, some recent stuff is good, and even great.But is obvious that, after anime and manga made it big in the west, most artworks are just wank baits that sell slop that will either die in a meme room or in the funny green site. You will rarely see another NGE, or Gurren Laggan, or even a Fumoffu. Moe was a curse for the modern man.
>>58401955>But is obvious that, after anime and manga made it big in the west, most artworks are just wank baits that sell slop that will either die in a meme room or in the funny green site.Which is what we call: "tranime"All Japanese media after 2008 is universally agreed to be horrible by 4chan.
>>58401800These boobs are perfect.>>58401479I have pity for him. He looks like he dies. Poor boy. Fuck gamefreak! They don't deserve Pokemon anymore.
>>58401955Modern Japan cannot make anything good, just pedophile gooner slop for people who don't know what the age of consent is.
>>58401955Apparently japan is full of pedos nowadays, ewwwww explains the rearded lolis sexualization tho
>>58401785Kek holy based 4chan BTFOing Japan
>>58401996>that comicits giving maga trump i'm afraid
>>58401479unironically I think they like subverting expectations. Hence why Mega Feraligatr is something unexpected instead of a cool style evo
>>58401981>>58401996>Japan>pedo>nowadaysYou never watched an old anime not even original Dragonball nor are you aware of any of Gamefreak's old works pre-Pokemon but even Pokemon counts.
>>58402055I remember the OG Dragonball, and sure, it was as sloppy as any teen adventure at the time.The good thing is that the shonen aspect was pushed when it started to gather an audience. So by the time it was the saiyan/early Namek saga, everyone was waiting to see rad battles between the Z team vs aliens, not Bulma and Chi Chi walking around in loose garments.
>>58401996and that’s a good thing
>>58401996>nowadaysEven old kids anime features little girls being sexually harassed as a gag. Doraemon (very popular series over there) for exampleThis isn't a recent development at all
Is this the new sharty strategy, discredit a post by samefagging false support for it?
>>58402277op here, that's been a 4chan staple for at least 2 decades. Not sure why my thread derailed so fast though.
>>58401479What are you doing to do about it?
>>58402043But now everybody expects everything to be shit
>>58402174No it's not
>>58401479it's corporate sabotagepic near completely unrelated because it's an artifact from when they at least pretended to try
>>58402277i figured it was a specific person on /vp/, i've been seeing a lot of "FUCK JAPAN WE 4chan USERS HATE JAPAN" posts recently
>>58401800>>58401921She, her twin that's actually her split personality, and a Welsh catgirl fuck him and have babies with him btw
>>58403914This was always bullshit by the way, or it only applied to non-shillmons.As of L:Z-A, Charizard's had its T-Rex arms elongated to be practical, and all of its original belly fat is gone, letting it fully lean into the "badass fire dragon" aesthetic.
>>58405026>Triple pussy smashI consider that a win, and a massive hole in finances.
>>58402042Qrd?
>>58401859>Xenoblade 2 has long been 4chan's most hated game of the 2010s -- the ENTIRE game is like thisas someone who actually played it, yes but also nothere's like five total unfunny slapstick anime scenes in the main story and they're all specifically on even numbered chapters because there were two writers and one of them wanted silly anime shenanigans while the other was actually making an attemptthere's also a big number of sidequest pseudo-optional party members (probably also split by writer) that are essentially a completely random selection of fuckheads that range from actual attempts at characters to shitty anime tropes, and all of them have their own sidequests. one of the ones in the latter category are where that one cringe dance webm that lives rent free in /v/'s head originated from
>>58403914yeah for real, if luxray were made today they would have made the fur on its head stretch out twice as far because 'its a reference to static electricity!!!!!! haha!!!!!!!'
>>58401479Death!
>>58405237To this day I wonder how the Hell the Xeno saga became so bloody popular when it has every bloody trope that should actually kill it out of self-induced cringe.
Remember that the people attacking the new megas defend with their lives this piece of shit, Slowbro, Ampharos, etc
>>58405310mega manectric, slowbro, and ampharos ARE better than mega starmie, dragonite, and feraligatr. Some old megas are good and some are bad. Same with new ones. Stop being a tribalist retard.
>>58405321Fuck no they aren't Mega Starmie mogs literally any other Mega water Pokemon we've gotten, period. It's funny, it plays around how Starmie moved in Colosseum down to it's tendency to do backflips and flail around like he's dancing.Oh wait I forgot more than half of /vp/ is underage and hasnt played a single Stadium, Colosseum or Revolution game, kill yourself.
>>58405310still a pretty shit mega but it doesn't feel like it was designed for the sole purpose of being memed on so I have infinitely more respect for it
>>58405356I feel that, yeah, "looks like thunder, haha", but I feel he would also have a Spd and Sp Atk boost. Something that says "run fast, hit fast, damage harder!"I wonder if he was meant to have Volt Tackle during his Mega evolution.
>>58405356It was designed like that because it's name Ribolt in Japanese so they made him a literal thunderbolt. That's it. That's the entire basis of that mega.
>>58405352man shut the fuck up about this weird elitist shit, I love all of those games and still think it's a shit megabut mega starmie isn't bad because it has wacky dance animations, it's bad because they did literally nothing to the design and thought long legs and silly animations were a substitute for an actual designif they made an actual attempt on its appearance instead of feeling like solely like designers going 'hey wouldn't it be really funny if we had a mega where we changed nothing but the way it moves' I might would actually like it
>>58405307Because unfortunately the audience for those games are just as cringe and don't consume anything else.
>>58405385never said it was inspired design, just that it wasn't memebait
>>58401800>ourLol fuck off retard.The amount of samefagging on this post is absurd.
>>58405307It’s not supremely popular, but it has story beats that hit really hard and the general idea behind them is generally seen as cool.
>>58401996Game freak is unironically full of pedos. Ohmori was arrested for CP but Masuda bailed him out and hired him because pedos are easy to blackmail and control The "Pedo Freak" shitpost was more accurate than we thought
>>58405394>it's bad because they did literally nothing to the design and thought long legs and silly animations were a substitute for an actual designIt already had silly animations that they have used during the anime and the aforementioned games. You're just seeing it in an environment that allows it to actually be put into the scenario of an action game. And what's wrong with the long legs again? It functions perfectly with the animations given to Starmie. the stats given complement the given physique. You dislike it purely because it doesn't look "cool" or simply because in your head megas cannot possibly be fun concepts when given to unserious pokemon.At that point, it's just Digimon.
>>58405352mega starmie is complete shit. It's stupid. It's complete and utter shit. Kill yourself.
>>58401800>Japanese """""humour"""""
>>58405352>it's a reference so it's good!>it's le funny!
>>58401636I do too. Mega Starmie is inexcusable, though.
>>58405430are you illiterate? how did you miss the entire point of my post where I said I dislike it because they did literally nothing different with the design besides the legs and the animations, and did not actually mind the goofier animations
>>58405449So what's there to dislike? That they didn't overdesign it like Dragalge? What do you feel is lacking to the design, can you even explain it yourself other than saying "they should have done more"?
>>58405459>they changed nothing>OH SO YOU WANTED IT TO BE OVERDESIGNED HUH? WHAT POSSIBLE CHANGES COULD THEY HAVE MADE OTHER THAN WHAT THEY DID? CAN YOU EVEN SUGGEST A CHANGE HUH DESIGN ONE FOR ME NOW OR YOU'RE WRONGkill yaself nig
>no argumentshould have figured it was a shitposter.
>>58405430They should have gone this route instead of just slapping the model on captain falcon's skeleton.
>>58405497I could get behind Starmie getting realistic human limbs and legs with a head popping out but that would alienate (heh) a lot of people
>>58405459if we're using your own logic, starmie always had silly animations means that the new animations are barely even a departure from the base design. which would mean the mega is nothing but longer legs, an extremely slight saturation boost, and slightly longer prongs on the gem casingdo you seriously mean to tell me that there isn't a single other thing they could have done to differentiate it from the base design without making it """""overdesigned"""""?>changing the base color to something new the way starmie originally did with staryu>changing even just the gem color to be different>bringing back the element of the gold band wrapping around the star originally seen in staryu>changing the back layer of star to be a different color than the front star, possibly along the lines of that one shooting star mega that was posted a few weeks back?>having the legs and arms be split between the front and back of the Pokémon, letting it still maintain the same general idea and animations but playing into the alien-imitator concept by having the arms and legs visibly disconnected from one-another?
>>58405508I don't think they could alienate much more than the current design already has. Basically everyone is shitting on it. At least this one would have a few fans.
>>58401479they dont have time for good ideasI'm serious, they really dont, their shit is all fucked up
>>58401785And yet, it all remains better than western media for the moment, but not the foreseeable future.
>>58405526not him (obviously hopefully) but I was hoping that starmie would get levitate and become more of a flying saucer, with it focusing on changing the gem and the fact that it has the spinning section on its back.
>>58405459Not the poster, but I felt Mega Starmie would've been... More majestic?Like, Megas back in Gen 6 seemed like they generally made Pokemon feel more intense, or threatening, or cool. Swampert and Slowbro were rare exceptions, but at least it felt appropriate for Slowbro. A lot of Megas in LAZ feel like they pushed the absurd or funny factor instead. Like, they make an exaggerated part of the design even more ridiculously exaggerated. And they didn't just do this to inherently goofy Pokemon, either. Starmie always had this kind of weird, undefinable, alien vibe to it. It's a form of life that defies the qualities and aesthetics that are more usual to the Pokemon world. And its Mega looks like Danny Devito stuffed into a star-shaped bodysuit instead of a couch cushion. And I could say the same shit about Mega Cefable, Skarmory, and Excadrill as well. The tone of these new designs just clashes with what's already been established.
>>58405547if the leaks are accurate and they're indeed giving second megas to regular mons, I'd be down for giving starmie a second mega later down the lineit'd be a lot easier for people to stomach the quirkier designs if they weren't the only available option. it's why regular new mons and regionals can get away with it while crossgens and megas get significantly more flak
>>58405546Being better than the bottom of the barrel doesn't make you the best. You are still at the bottom.If you want the top, you have to go with a vision, and reach to it. Worst thing happens, you'll crash and burn, only leaving a fat corpse ready to be teared apart by content vultures and cheap banting. But if you make it, you'll take your place in history as one of the best examples of the artistic media.
>>58403914Retards who spam this image don't understand it. Sugimori's philosophy is that well-chosen imperfections add to the charm of the design, and he's kinda right.Even shitmons have their fans.
>>58405591the keyword is well-chosenthe issue with a lot of newer designs is that instead of the imperfections being made to round out the designs, the perfections are being made the outright cornerstone of itopinions are naturally varied and different people have different tolerances for different thigns, but it's easier for the majority of people to look past an imperfection when it's not distractingly protruding out of the design like a tumor
>>58405616>the perfections*imperfections, dunno how I misspelled that one
>>58405532As expected. They completely shifted their priority towards the merchandising very early, and now that they've grown this gigantic, they literally cannot support the weight without it costing the quality of the non-merchandise products.
>>58401785/thread
>>58402055>game freak were OG minky momo loliconsHoly fucking based.
>>58402055Sugimoribros..
>>58405547A thematically appropriate evolution that's transformative and has a specific, intuitive idea? No, we can't have that. Too obvious. Need to subvert expectations :)