Would Pokémon be better if they kept it to strictly 150 of them? (151 if including clones)
>>58410147No. I think the perfect number is somewhere between 300-400. Right now we're just above 1000 and almost 10% of those are Legendary/Mythic...
>>58410147The fun thing about genwunners is that different johto mons were meant to be kanto mons, but since they didn't know that, they think they're soulless. Saying "only 251" makes much, much more sense
Yes
LGPE has only the Kanto dex, Alolan variants of Kanto mons, and Meltan/Melmetal. And it's so unfathomably dull.
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>>58410180I think it depends on what kind of game you're making. A single player campaign works fine with 150-200 Pokemon, as seen in Gens 1-5. Any more than 200 and you tend to get duplicates (there's no reason to have more than like 2 regional birds, 2 regional rodents, etc.), but any fewer and you run into the Zubat-is-all-you-encounter-in-caves problem. For a solid pvp meta 400 seems to be the sweet spot for a low power, early game meta (think Series 1, Reg H); most Pokemon are "viable" in their fully evolved form so you end up with 50 or so common threats and another 100 extended things you need to keep track of as they might pop up here and there. If you're going for a legendary or restricted pvp meta though? You need the full national dex or close to it. Once you allow things like Genies, Tapus, etc. into a meta you need the full set of high BST Pokemon or else you get a very centralized meta. Same with restricted formats. If you're allowing cover legendaries, you better allow all of them.
>>58410147That has to be rage bait
>>58410816>Tateof course it is. all they do is traffic gypsies and ragebait
yes, there's deoxys, lucario, gruntilda, wawhile, rotom, and 145 vileplumes
>>58411077I'm convinced that Smoochum having 85 SpA is why Jynx got a 20 point boost in it's SpA in Gen 2.
>>58412135Hypno had 115 Spc and they only kept that for its SpA. Likewise, Jynx was intended to just have 95 SpD. When they could split it, they assigned the real intended values to the attack or defense.
>>58410147Kanto has 150 Pokemon (Nidoran male and female should be one entry).
>>58410218That's been long debunked, we saw the betamons for Red & Blue (Green technically) and none of them made it into Gold & Silver later
>>58411077People don't understand gen II's dex. Its an expansion of the original 151. You're not supposed to build a team of only new Pokemon. Also anti-tradefags are retarded because everyone had a linkcable and the game so trade evos were easily accessible.
why is that faggot even talking about muh pokemon
>>58410180I think the dex we had at gen 3 was pokemon at it's strongest. Everyone had mons they liked, most mon designs were good or decent with very few stinkers. Artstyle hadn't changed significantly yet and everything still felt like a pokemon. Legendary pokemon were at a managable number. Also a pretty good metagame if you're into that.
>>58410522Johto needed more orange Pokemon
>>58410147The actual problem is that modern Pokemon games have a stupid distribution philosophy. Dumping several dozen pokemon lines before the first gym lessens the experience.
0 sexmons in gen1
>>58412916because he's a millennial, dipshit
>>58412969says who
>>58410147It's 150 Pokemon because Jynx should be erased
>>58410715cutting out the cross-gen evos for Gen 1 mons was unnecessarily cruel. old GF would have never done that shit.
>>58412969"before the first gym" umm, we're open world now.
>>58410147No and anyone saying otherwise is not a Pokemon fan.
>>58410218This is also false. A lot of Gen 1 and Gen 2 beta mons got reworked in Hoenn, Huntail was the Gen 1 Eel who we got to see all of the reworking process that went into it that even spawned Gorebyss. Same for the anchor shark that became Sharpedo. In a similar fashion, beta mons from gen 3 were reworked in Gen 5.All Pokemon belong in Pokemon.
>>58410147anon, the franchise wouldn't be around if they kept it as 151.
Wow, mostly based opinions here, I agree the sweet spot is somewhere around 500. They needed to slow down the influx of new pokes after Gen 2 and onward, something like 151, 251, 301, 351, 391, etc. Instead, they ballooned it to 386 in Gen 3 and all hell broke loose. I love Gen 5, but the original BW did the worst thing for the franchise imaginable in retrospect: added a shitload of new pokemon to the franchise AND returned no existing favorites to main story content.
Most genwunners are like Gen Xers in theirs 50s now and went offline in 2018. Same with classic sonic fans. You never here these people anymore cause it’s pathetic to keep doing this at such an age so most discussion and opinions online comes from younger generations.
>>58410147Pokemon was never 150 it started with 151
>>58414537classic boomers are still on 4chan
There are good designs in every gen and bad designs in every gen.
