Confirmed Arceus > Zygarde
Still better than shart/vomit
>>58417031>criticswho the fuck cares about those niggers, wait for the user reviews tranny.
>>58417104Will probably still be lower than Legends Arceus
>>58417031there are idiots that gave this shit 9 and 10, it would be much lower than this
>>58417120Some of these reviews are hilarious, like you can tell some of them are holding back absolutely tearing the game to shreds, but then dial it back because of the franchise they're reviewing
Everyone knows that if it wasn't named pokemon, the games would get lambasted and forgotten swiftly.
>>58417031Yes, Arceus could obliterate Zygarde, he's god dumbass.
>>58417171Correct, and at the same time people in here and /v/ are mad because they unironically want to play some Pokemon game lmao.
>>58417148Brit here, that's just British for "The graphics are atrocious".
>>58417171>>58417180Conversely, because it IS it's resistant to the "criticisms" of overly-attached "adults" because kids, casuals and those of us with a habit longer than any mother superior are more than enough to neutralise any and all of their complaints. I can't wait for the user reviews to be spammed endlessly getting increasingly more desperate and upset, while the game sales reach the mid-gen mark of 15m.
>>58417148>voice actingOh ok so the retarded games journalists are hanging out here Why the fuck would you ever want voice acting, especially when you're forced into listening to a shitty dub featuring one of three western voice actors that can only do one or two voices?
>>58417186Irish here, I immediately discard any and all opinions that see no voice acting as bad, as it shows the writer REALLY has no clue about how the franchise works and assumes they'd actually hire industry VA talent, instead of just using their cheap-as-chips pet anime VA's to do double duty. It's the difference between "Antiques Roadshow" and "Dickinson's Real Deal".
>>58417198Because for some fucking reason, the characters act as if they're speaking dialogue even though they are not. They just stand there flapping their lips with no spoken lines and you have to sit and wait through the animations. It looks cheap, it feels cheap.
>>58417198Because reading is unironically difficult for the zoomie demographic. their concentration's shot to fuck because they had telly AND the internet to raise them, while the rest of us just had telly to fuck us and tellies weren't cheap until the 2000's, meaning they just weren't in every bedroom in every house in the developed world like today (shit, my first telly was a black and white portable job that I got when I was 13). So someone reading the script to them will always be more attractive than having to read the thing yourself AND come up with a unique voice to distinguish the characters and story.
>>58417219I'd only accept it if the voices were AI made.Voice actors are dumbasses who need to fuck off from videogames.
>>58417237Okay SAAR
>have to restart the game if you play it for more than an hour because of memory leaks>it still gets 10s from some websitetruly baffling.
>>58417241Its about principles, VAs are insufferable leftists who think they are real actors.They dont deserve a cent, even less from a franchise as big as Pokemon.Wish GTA 6 did it too, that would accelerate things.
>>58417219And would you rather they stand stock still and utterly unmoving, the way overworld NPC's stood around when you "talked" to them in older Gens? You've two options - animate them as if talking, reacting and emoting or have their model default pose while the textbox pops up. But I do seem to remember r/veepee shitting on SM/USM for doing that with the MC - regardless the scenario, blank smile facial expression constantly so maybe you cunts just want to be angry at things because it's not even pretending to care about you as a market share. there's no "option 3" where they suddenly pull out VA talent that's cream of the crop either side of the world though - it WILL be TPCi spergs earning an extra bitta money by recording the scripts at base rate and not someone recognised as a top-level talent (unless it's a Sir Patrick Stewart in "Obivion" scenario and they're disappeared for the rest the entire game after 3 lines).
>>58417252Most likely paid reviews.
>>58417263man, you fucking disgust me. The length fanatics will go to pretend there's a problem with something every other fucking vidya company has figured out, including small indie teams, borders insanity.
>>58417219Yeah it looks so retarded now
PLA was unpolished pure sovl.PLZ is somewhat polished whatever.
>>58417312>>58417304>>58417263How about this: we make the game fully online and focused on PvP.That way the game focuses on battling, no wastes of time like story or open world trotting, and no need for dialogue.
>>58417317What soul? That crap was just spamming pokeballs. No gyms, no battle tower, no challenge whatsoever.
honestly i'd believe it if these three had already put up their scores. you know they are gonna give it a 90-100 and bump the overall up.
>its a "Pokemon game ruins the combat system by introducing pointless shit episode"This is why, no matter how buggy the mainline games are, Legends, Rangers and Mystery Dungeon will always be the bottom of this franchise.Instead of doubling down on what works, the combat system, they insist on ruining it and shoving endless open world distractions.Like the fucking clothing system, whats the fucking point of having a billion clothes? Its Pokemon, not a Barbie game.
>>58417031PLA was so empty and barren, they had more than enough money left over in its budget to pay for higher review scores.
>>58417171It's not just the Pokemon logo but also the Nintendo logo on the box that protects this shovelware from the roasting it deserves.
>>58417355Just go play Showdown then, you megafaggot. The risk of failure is a terrible reason not to experiment or innovate. Trainer customization is a no-brainer, people love that shit.
>>58417031WHO CARESYOU FAGS WILL STILL BUY IT AND GAME FREAK WILL STILL RELEASE CRAP YOU'LL STILL BUY.
>>58417370>YOU FAGS WILL STILL BUY ITI didnt even buy Switch 1/2 kek
>>58417336>fairly challenginglmao, what the fuck.
>>58417355>Mystery Dungeon>open world distractionsWTF? Have you even played a single one of these games?I don't see a problem with MD, Ranger, etc. having different gameplay. They're spinoffs. The point of a spinoff is to do something different. Not saying you have to like them, but they weren't some huge insult to the series or anything.Legends, on the other hand, has just been lazier, emptier mainline games pretending to be experimental spinoffs by shoving in one gimmick and building what's left of the game around it. And at this point they're clearly being treated as a replacement for the real spinoffs that were fully committed to being different games.
>>58417369When the best case scenario is that they might not fuck up, then maybe its time to focus on other aspects, like giving the games a decent online infrastructure.
Why do Pokemon fans want the games to remain extremely mediocre?I don't see other fanbases do this.
>>58417410Which is why the next step is scrapping Legends and just focusing on the mainline.Or better, scrap the mainline too and just focus on giving support to Champions when it comes out.
>>58417031Chadceus vs virgin zycuck!
>>58417418Have you ever been in /v/?That place constantly complains when games improve because they cant play for shit.MGSV is the biggest example, a game that actually focuses on gameplay instead of being a shitty movie, and it completely mindbroke them.
>>58417418It's a form of stockholm syndrome. It's just acknowledged by now that if a new pokemon game is merely mediocre, that's a great acomplishment.
>>58417428muh gameplay over graphics in 2025
>>58417412>like giving the games a decent online infrastructureThat's Nintendo's job, and they have always been utter retards with online play, and now that they've scammed people into actually PAYING for this crap, they have no incentive to ever make it better.
>>58417443That's too bad because without PvP there's no reason to play these games.
honestly i don't see the point in having a pissing contest when its the same shit slop shipped into peoples mouths every year. PLA is shit and PLZA is same levels of shit. the only retards that care which one is better is because they need something to hold over the other like they have nothing going on in their lives.
>>58417464>PLA iseasily the best Switch pokemon game
>>58417355>bitching about clothing customization when it's one of the most bitched-about features whenever it's absent/lackingAnother exciting episode of "Contrarian or Retard?"
>>58417255Who cares about western dubshit VAs? Anyone with a brain would be switching to the Japanese voices immediately, and anyone who doesn't deserves the garbage they end up listening to.
>>58417471And who is doing the bitching, people who play the game, or trannies who just want to take selfies and ERP on 4chan over their stupid characters?If it was up to me I'd go back to Gen 1, where character customization was limited to the name.
>>58417469Easily the best 3D Pokemon RPG.
>>58417469The best Switch Pokemon game is New Snap followed by Mystery Dungeon DX. PLA isn't even a game, it's an unfinished vertical slice that they had the balls to still charge $60 for.
>>58417517>a fucking game about taking picturesI hate Pokemon spinoffs so much.
>>58417517based af, MD beats PLA and PLZA by a long shot.
>>58417520and somehow that spinoff has better models and animations than both mainline games on switch
>>58417520>I hate spinoffs This, plass is shit, worse than pokemon dash
>>58417526I dont give a fuck, Pokemon is about battling, Showdown has basically no animations and is the best game of the franchise.
>>58417031>PLZA already at 80ohnononono
>>58417031>Its already droppingBros......
>>58417031>start a new "Legends" series>take pretty much everything good the first game did and throw it out the bin>call the next game a "Legends" game>one cityAnd nobody was surprised
>>58417355the combat is literally the worst part of the main games though, oh gee I pressed super effective move on another retarded AI for the millionth time in a nearly 30 year franchise that still insists on using the same gameplay and formula it has had from the start
>>58419284>just want to run around catching mons>game forces you through endless railroading, story sequences and never ending, badly written dialogue.
>>58419302And it's even worse now.
>The last Pokemon game that got 85+ was vanilla SMThe Switch killed this franchise
>>58419478PEDOCHADS WON
>>58417148>GRRR THERE'S NO VOICE ACTED BALCONIES current gen of reviewers are ass mad zoomers that get their talking points from /vp/
>>58419302t. Doesnt play PvPThe singleplayer component is literally a tutorial for the multiplayer.
>>58419574catering to competitive faggots like you has been a disaster for the franchise
>>58419636based
>>58419574>"tutorial" uses a completely different formula from how competitive is actually playedebin
>>58419636They have literally never done that until Champions was announced, which based on what they've said its already the best Pokemon game ever.
>>58419650The tutorial is just basic mechanics like type advantage.Though they really should have started making dual fights the standard.
>>58419695>"They have literally never done that"since the 3DS era the pokemon games have had no postgame content because gamefreak themselves say that online multiplayer is "postgame"so they've catering to your competitive nigger ass for at least 12 years
>>58419743Catering to us would have been developing a proper online infrastructure, giving rewards for winning matches or developing a proper UI with an in-battle log.I've never cared for the postgame beyond catching whatever new mons are unlocked, which they should get rid off already.
>This completely new and experimental title is getting good reviews>But its 2 POINTS lower than Arceus!!Pokemon fans can't be happy anymore, and that's a shame.
>>58419478>The Switch killed this franchiseI never bought one.
>>58419957>experimental titlePLA was the experiment, this the third iteration.
>>58419957Its 3 points now
>>58419284>start a new series>develop it with the intent on being more focused on gameplay than the main series>iterate on that>upset autistic retards the internet over who just wanted the template kiddy game series to just give them template games in their new seriesKill yourself, make the world a better place already.
>>58417355Rangers and Mystery Dungeon are the best parts of this franchise.
>>58417031Kinnoh wins