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The more ambitious gamefreak tries to be the more they fuck it up and release half baked products

Pokémon games should be as ambitious as their budget,staff and development time allows them too and gamefreak trying to make action RPG and open worlds games will always fall flat because they're clearly don't have the time and talent to make ambitious pokemon projects

legends arceus was a polished tech demo for gamefreak to learn how to do open world and legends Z-A is a tech demo for gamefreak to learn how to do big cities in open world and test out the new battle mechanic
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>>58426940
I literally just wanna beat up evil bad guys with my bros and become champion how is that hard
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>>58426940
Sadly they wont because retards will buy PLA/SV/PLZA and think its a good game only because its on the switch, like these morons will buy the same shit slop over and over again only to compare the two like the games matter.
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>>58426940
According to the leaks, this game was “finished” in 2023 but they waited to release it for 2 years so it was during a time when people were desperate for a new Pokémon game.

Champions is ready now, but they’re waiting to release it to push out this slop first. This game is essentially the DLC to get the megastones for Champions and future games/ vgc.
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If they're going to be experimenting they need to have a more composed vision than what they've been doing. PLA does a decent job at exploring an older setting and has a good climax and I think the only reason this game was as fucked up as it was is because it's entirely new blood at the wheel with none of the old guard telling them what they should or shouldn't do. Trashing the entire previous game's cast for a bunch of OCs while writing a story directly tied to the events of said previous game is kind of a headass decision. The setting itself doesn't take advantage of the experiment that well and it absolutely does not look the price of admission, which to be fair none of the games since they've gone to Switch do

Should have figured the potential in this game was nonexistent when TPC didn't start bothering to promote it until two months from release. Feels like even they didn't care about it
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>>58426952
You have 6 whole series of games to choose from already.
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>>58426940
No dude. Im sick of traditional Pokemon. If you arent you have a million romhacks to play. True 3D chads only have 3 games so far.
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>PLA is le bad
I wonder if it's still that autist samefagging, or the illness is spreading
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>>58426940
I don't think it has anything to do with the different directions they take the story and gameplay. I think it has everything to dow to with gamefreak CANT make good 3d games. They just can't and somehow they peaked visually at lets go and somehow produce games now that look worse than x and y did.
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>>58426985
are XY/ORAS/SM/USUM not 3D?
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>>58426997
The graphics are but they are designed like the 2D games
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>>58426940
X/Y with HD upscaling looks better than Z-A
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>>58426983
I want 6 more
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>>58426985
>>58426992
>>58427006
You guys sound like you don’t want to play Pokemon.
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I've never felt this uninterested in progressing in a Pokemon game. The ranking system and lack of story makes it feel like I'm playing a grindy phone game.
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The idea is fine the problem is that we're stuck in a city the entire time with no real environmental changes or any real diversity of Pokemon.

Also it's best to stop looking at this game as legends and just look at it as XY2 in all honesty.
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i just wanted a good and proper DP remake for fucks sake. fuck PLA and by extension, ZA
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>>58426940
>The more ambitious gamefreak tries to be
I'm tired of people acting like these Legends games are "ambitious" just because they're slightly different than the usual mainline games. You're giving Game Freak more credit than they deserve.
The Legends games are actually even bigger shit tests than the other post-BW2 games were. They're a blatant attempt to see how much GF can get away with removing and how many corners they can get away with cutting as long as they add one new barely-playtested gimmick as a distraction. And it's working. Even half the people who usually shit on GF have deluded themselves into thinking PLA was good when it was worse than even SWSH.
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>>58427158
i was saying this when it released. the people defending it were like
>OMG IT'S GOOD BECUASE IT'S....LE DIFFERENT!! MUH BREATH OF FRESH AIR
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>>58427120
You have BDSP but you faggots bitched and moaned about it being a faithful remake. Wtf do you even want?
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>>58427199
nta but I would've been fine with just a singular Platinum remake in BDSP's engine. Remaking DP specifically feels like holding back
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I know this is probably concern trolling but it’s true - gamefreak can’t do ambitious. One of the rare companies who just needs to forego innovation and stick to what they know
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>>58426940
How about you grow up and play games for people your age instead of kiddy shit for 5 year olds?
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>>58427254
Their real problem is that they're doing this on a platform that demands actual industry standard and can't be carried by artistic vision. If they were doing these types of games on the DS or 3DS, people would eat them up. But because that was the Masuda era they were forced to just shit out the exact same game for nearly 15 years and that has absolutely no lasting power for a franchise, as proven by the fact Pokemon has only grown exponentially in the last decade versus everything post-RB despite how much worse the games supposedly are
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>>58427199
>you have a shitty unity port with bobblehead graphics, removed content, copy pasted bugs, fucked uo overworld movement, and forced affection
lol dumb nigger
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>>58427120
Thank god remakes stopped being a thing.
Play the original games and stop begging devs to be even lazier than usual, you goddamn drones.
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>>58426952
The games should let you choose which side you want to help. I shouldn't need a modded game to play as team rocket. And if doing two paths is too hard then give us an evil guy playthrough.
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>>58426952
>>58427303
Pokemon will always be shit because not even the fans have any ambition.
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>>58426940
And where are the "fully baked products" OP?
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>>58426940
Trying to be ambitious while being forced to release a game every year just means every new feature will be half-baked.
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>>58427303
I've always thought since they first released that SM should have had the MC be a Team Skull grunt. Ohmori is just such a fucking boring director with no imagination, so everything interesting about Alola had to take a back seat to family drama and malasadas.
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>>58426940
Pokemon legends za needs an easy mode.
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>>58427321
>>58426940
>product
What happened around 2022 that made americans all start talking like corporate suits overnight?
Now its not
>I'm playing some games
Its
>I CONSUME THE DIGITAL ENTERTAINMENT MEDIA PRODUCT
The fuck.
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>>58427299
Remakes are just gifts to older players
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>>58427334
I'm just using OP's terms
Fitting for lifeless games like the newer gens though
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>>58427340
Not a single remake has ever improved the original.
This is why remasters > remakes.
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>>58427363
heart gold
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>>58427380
Nope, Crystal is the optimal Johto game.
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>>58427403
>cant even use mareep without trade
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The SV and ZA graphics genuinely hurt my eyes. I've tried playing them both and I just end up so tired after around 10 minutes, not because of the gameplay, but because of my fucking eyes. Never had a problem with PLA and I love how SWSH looks, so I don't think my standards are that high.
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>>58427290
What's wrong with the graphics and forced affection? I swear you faggots only have the same arguments involving those and no actual arguments. And what cut content? They're remakes of DP, not Platinum so they're not gonna add shit from Platinum from there. And the Eurofags forced their hand to remove the Game Corner due to their anti-gambling shit, otherwise we would have gotten barely interactive machines that automatically give out coins like the European releases of Platinum.
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>>58427363
Metroid Zero Mission.
Though I admit simply giving the original Metroid an in-game map would have been fine, didn't really need to be remade from the ground up.
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>>58427419
>he doesnt know
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>>58426952
Why are all of the villains in the series always misunderstood with good intentions now?

>>58427303
>implying we'd ever get a villain option in a series like this
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>>58426952
What if I want to be the bad guy beating up champions?
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>>58427480
>What's wrong with the graphics and forced affection?
it looks like a mobile phone game, couldn't even use the same engine as swsh
>forced affection
you tell me you dumb shit eating retard
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>>58427669
Lmfao
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>>58427669
here's your 60 dollar remake bro
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>>58427263
Just because a game is for kids it doesn't mean it has to be shitty and half assed.

This game isn't even half assed, is quarter assed.
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>>58427403
You must be delusional if you think HGSS doesn't directly replace Crystal outright.
Or either playing a contrarian just to annoy us.
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>>58427480
HGSS were GS remakes and added way more content than Crystal, what's your argument?
This is some Twitter and reddit pokemon fan shit.
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It’s so awesome how bad this game is. There are plenty of bad games out there but rarely does a game this bad get made. But that’s the best part, this is an especially bad game yet will still make a billion dollars no matter what. Amazing.
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>>58427669
I don't see anything wrong in the webm. Do you get this ass blasted by other random chance effects like flinching and shit?
>wanting the same engine as swsh
Lol. Lmao even.
>>58427702
Said content was shit though. Who the fuck even uses Pokéathlon?
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>>58426940
It needs to go back to the time before shit like:
>mega shit
>z-moveshit
>dynashit
>terashit
>slow start
>zen mode
>power cuckstruct
>defeatist
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>>58427729
Ok you're being a contrarian, I'm done here
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>>58427827
I'm not being a contrarian. Those are my honest views and if you can't handle it then fuck off.
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>>58427057
Explorers of Sky was better than any main line game.
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>>58427858
Contrarian AND an edgy kid. Being on 4chan must make you feel super brave.
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>>58427888
But I'm not being a contrarian or edgy. Do you honestly believe that anyone who thinks differently than you is contrarian, edgy or whatever other buzzwords you'll pull out of your ass?



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