There is a 94billion dollar difference between the two franchises.
digigoyslop lost
Digichadgold won
>>58432969>3D vs pngLMAO, digifaggots are cringe.
do the people going on and on about graphics even play games or do they just watch them on youtube
>>58432984Watch them on YouTube
>>58432969Legends ZA still has a better grade on metacritic, without even trying, thats how much better pokemon is than digimon as a franchise
>>58433000>better gradeSame grade as the PC version
>>58432984You don’t get it. The world’s most profitable franchise should be producing the most feature-rich, beautiful looking (not saying it has to be realistic), fun games of all time. You standards for Pokemon games should be extremely fucking high.
>>58433039No, because the games are fun.
>>58433039>they should be burning all their money on satisfying /v/yeah no thanks. having fun with za.
>>58433053>>58433069Fat retards who love their Fischer price toy. Games would unironically be better if Asperger’s people weren’t allowed to play them.
>>58433085You sound mad, maybe play a different game. People are having fun with what is presented to them. You sound like you have unresolved issues, dumb tranny.
>>58433099Trannys are the ones who accept this literal dogshit slop.
>>58433104Again, you sound mad.
>>58432984Watch them on YouTube while masturbating
>>58433118Anyone with standards would be.
>>58433134>posting on a Sudanese amateur jai alai forum >pretending to have anything resembling standardsTo bed with you, troon
/mon/ NEVER EVER, Digikeks.Go back >>>/vg/digi>>>/vg/digi>>>/vg/digi>>>/vg/digi>>>/vg/digi
>>58433142Thank you for the better thread
>>58432969Still not playing your garbage digifag :)
>>58432969>Anime slop is le better kek!
>>58432969>retards think the bottom pic is 2D animatedKek, Poketroons are blind and retarded
>>58432969both look like shiti can't wait for roco kingdom to releasechinese are unironically the only ones who can make interesting overworld designgenshin mogs the fuck out of ugly bland empty nu-zelda slop
>>58433199Cope AI chinkoid slop
>>58433199Wuwa rapes GenshinDigimon rapes Pokemon
>>58432969ANIMEEEEE >miyabi-kun............... i'm sorry about kuroneko-chan's digimon's premature death.....>d-don't worry about me miyakase-san I I'll manage...Worry about her......some monkeys think this is "good writing" kek
>>58433276Better than a trainer wearing a skirt you troonoid.
>>58433283I thought you liked underage pokégirls in skirts though!
>>58432969Digimon fans are eating good rn NGL
>>58433355Why did you lie
>>58433011Mid off
>>58433241seething already huh weebnigger?
>>58432969I guess people would rather look at an png. as long as its pretty.
>>58433360He didn't
>>58433039If i were in charge of the series the games would be BOTW budget minimum2 years between releases, 2 different large studios (4 years of dev time per game)Hire the best japanese 3d film animatiors to redo all of the battle animationsHire playtestors throughout the entire development to make sure the games give you literal orgasms from how good they areAnd I would STILL have money left over. Stupid amounts in fact!
>>58433424Thats how GF views western fans btw.
I bought Digimon on ps5 and found out that it runs at 30fpsPokemon ZA might have shitty repeating textures and flat geometry but it plays at 60fps on switch 2.Im sorry but I am hyper autistic about framerates and its honestly unacceptable for digimon to be locked to 30fps on a fucking ps5
>>58433454/thread
>>58433454Buy the PC version where you can play at 144fps
>>58433069i smoke da za za
>>58433464I realized I should have done that afterwards. I just didnt even fathom that it could be possible that Digimon would be locked to 30fps on ps5, so I bought it without a second thought. That's what I get for paying money for anything I guess though.
>>58432984You think most of us played AZ?
>>58433434True that's why the keep making sexmons like glimmora
>>58433589Why take furry bait when Digimon exists?
>>58433039wrong, they should be making the biggest profit - which they do
>>58433011And now, the PS5 version is also at 79. But whatever, it never meant anything, particularly with Pokemon. People are willing to accept anything, some defending Game Freaks by saying that they're a small team doing yearly games, despite Nihon Falcom and Gust being in the exact same situation, with less money, and doing more appealing games, with less bugs and, in the case of Nihon Falcom's Trails series, a world building so deep, if you do the optional side content, that some fear the burnout. And I'm pretty sure that a lot of talented people would want to work with Game Freaks (Hideo Kojima complained one time that a lot of university students in game fields wanted to work with Nintendo so it was sometimes difficult for him to recruit talents), but for whatever reason, we see none of those skills.Game Freaks are like the bad guy in Glass Onion. You would think they're some type of complex geniuses to be admired but why? Game Freaks are just idiots.And I'm not complaining about the TCG, manga, anime or merchandising, those are fine, but the games are just sad to look at. I stopped buying them a long time ago
if only digimon didn't have denuvo
Here is what a pokemon game in 2025 should look likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzzXYQ8zoQ
At least Digimon are consistent in what their game genre is
>>58433011No one had the balls to slap Pokémon ZA with a well deserved red review yet?
>>58436085Not a single disgusting brown in sight, all White, just the way it should be.
>>58433411Pokemon ZA is a huge png anyway.
>>58432982And yet the PNG looks miles better.Pokemon being a shitty 3d isn't the own you think it is
>>58433000Just because a piece of shit sells doesn't change the fact it's still shit. Digimon has always been better, the problem is Pokemon fans are too retarded to see how bad the games really are.
>>58433053Do you have aspergers?
>>58433159Cool, we don't you here.>>58433167Pokemon is literally anime too.
>>58432969LOOOOOL I can't. The edges of that roof in that house are what your Blender teacher would tell you to make before teaching you to bevel the edges. THE GAME IS ONE CITYJUST ONE FUCKING CITYAND THEY STILL HAVE TO CHEAP OUT ON THE POLY COUNT THIS MUCHI'm dying LOOOOOL
>>58432969Jesus Christ that Digimon screenshot mogs the fuck out of Pokemon ZA
>>58433011DELETE THISSSSSSS
>>58433053to be fair they should do better but i dont have fun in lots of games that look great, gf should be able to have fun and nice looks though
>>58432969One runs at 30fps on the PS5 Pro. The other runs at 60fps on the Switch 2.
>>58432969>both have shitty cartoony graphics that look PS3 tierPic related is a 7 year old game
>>58433000Reminder that people will give top score to any pokemon game no matter how shit they are
>>58432984I play themI don't mind bad graphics too much, but I also question why Pokemon graphics are comparable to my low budget experimental FuRyu JRPGsIt's not like they have to be the peak of graphics or anything, but at least be competent and driven by a good artstyle. I didn't mind PLA's garbage graphics since the general art direction was solid. Can't say much the same in ZA.
>>58433053Lmao
>>58436531This.PLA's graphics weren't on par with other games, but the color palettes were well thought out and harmonious. You can tell that someone was making sure the game had a visual identity, with details such as the same gradient effect of the sky being present on the characters' outfits. The subdued tones fit the setting of a game which takes place in the past. SV and ZA don't even have that. It's like there isn't even a person in charge of art direction. We talk about the bad graphics of recent Pokémon games like they are the same level of bad, but they are getting worse with each fucking title. Fuck these sad times when nothing is made with care and the only thing that matters is cutting corners.
>>58434748God Beelstarmon is so hot
>>58436085the modern day nintendo fan, aka a nintard, finds this repulsive because it actually looks visually competent (meaning it will not run on the shitch kiddie bricks) and doesn't have any pocs or ugly gender fluid freaks (meaning they can't groom kids into the cult)
>>58436397You forgot to mention if you don't shell out extra money on consoles you get 100+ fps on PC.
>>58437029I find it disgusting because "art style" is an excuse only valid for indie games.All the rest, including Pokemon, should push for photorealism.
>>58438227Leans towards a more mature audience then, which is not what they are looking for
>>58438227Anon, it's not about the artstyle, it's about the plush at this point. In Gen 2 they simplified the designs for easier anime production, in gen 3 they backpedaled into "cool", now they found a sweet marketable spot in simple goofy designs and a coolmon here and there. Not only they will never attempt photorealism, they are actively going against itAlso they are hyperfocused on mastering the teenage-prostitute design instead
>>58438227Yeah I love realistic deviantart desi- OH MY GOODNESS
>>58438227No one wants that shit, stupid trollWe want good looking anime graphicsFor realistic monster games there is monster hunter
>>58439123And Monster Hunter did great going from cartoony shit to photorralism.
>>58439137MH was never especially cartoony though
>>58432981FPBP
>>58436986PLA's art style was really good perhaps too good for gamefreak hmm
>>58432984Youtube while masturbating
>>58436986PLA is going to be the last good Pokémon game. I will always consider it canon.
This just made me check the steam users and finding out there was in fact a large drop on sunday/monday after the rom dropped is in fact funny. Yeah turns out digimon fans are also pokemon fans, who could have thought. I just wish time stranger's story wasn't so offputting to me, mostly for reasons that turns out have been in the ip since I stopped playing the games back at digimon world 3. The main one is who thought making the servers that the digimon world existed on have physical forms that take the shape of children? But also, the stuff with aegiomon is the most uninteresting story arc I've played in a digimon game.
>>58439650PLA was fucking awful
>It takes about 42 minutes to actually start playing the game What did they mean by this?
>>58436986It's insane that PLA was the first time in ages that Pokemon had received any praise from critics and the casual playerbase alike and yet they learned nothing from it's success
>>5843639730fps with good graphics>60fps with shit graphics.
>>58439660I agree that the story is pretty bad. I think it was the biggest victim of the game's development issues. It doesn't make any sense and just zooms by at lightning speed. CS, HM, and Survive all had much better stories and characters.
>>58436986That looks like absolute shit. Bottom left looks like they ripped Frappe Snowland straight out of Mario Kart 64 and called it a day. I wish I could see the alternate universe that PLAfags are looking at when they praise any aspect of this game.
>>58436397GF's games are so primitive, they should be able to run at 1000fps on a calculator.
>>58440081Survive was fucking awful. Shuuji was a piece of shit and so was everyone else because no one had the fucking balls to stand up to him abusing Lopmon. It's so unbelievably unrealistic, the characters in Adventure would NEVER let that shit slide. I don't think anyone with a brain would.
>>58440153The Shuuji thing was just typical Japanese autism - "he's the oldest so we have to shut up and listen to him." Also, the Adventure cast didn't stop Taichi from abusing Agumon in that one episode after he got his crest, they just sat around and whined that he was "a different person now."
>>58432969And the gap in playerbase in a few months is just as wide. Digimon is irrelevant
>>58440202Taichi also wasn't kicking the shit out of Agumon or telling him he's fucking worthless, so I don't see your point there.And I know it's the japanese respect your elders shit. It's fucking dumb.
>>58440106The graphics are bad. The discussion is about the art direction.
>>58432969The bottom one looks like ass
>>58432969There's no way Digimon had 90 billion dollars more budget than Z-A
>>58436152>Digimon are consistent in what their game genre is>goes from active time command battle DW1>to mystery dungeon with turn based DW2>to regular turn based DW3>to no more battles because its an action slash and shoot DW4>back to turn based but with tile matching?? Data Squad>back to just turn based Digitize/Cyber Slueth>back to active command ReCode>back to turn based Time StrangersYou must be a huge faggot to think that.
>>58432969The top one looks like ass
>>58440887The art direction is clearly a failure because the game is aggressively unpleasant to look at all the time.
>>58432969if your game is so good then why aren't you playing right now?
>>58436986I'm so glad it seems we're going back to the past in the next Legends game
>>58432969Yeah. This happens when your franchise is unstoppable and you spend less than a 000.1% of your brand into the games. If they gave 0.0001% and 4 years of time they would make a great title.It's not the value of the company, but the budget of games.
>>58434748at that point watch porn instead
>>58441081>It's not the value of the company, but the budget of games.Bullshit. Falcom has a fraction of the budget and fewer employees, but the newest Kiseki games still look a lot nicer than Game Freak's slop. GF just has no talent, no real director like Masuda anymore to force them to make a somewhat functional product, and a fanbase who actively wants worse games instead of better ones.
>>58433355>good game>good anime>card game getting a mobile appFeels good, man.
>>58441093I'm not a modern Pokemon fan though?
>>58441135why do you play trash just to see some tits?
>>58441118Sure but having to make bigger and bigger games every year and 3-4 projects at the same time to have something to release isn't healthy.TPC should stop being a fucking bunch of burocratic cheapskates. Throw some tens of millions, force GameFreak to hire people or even force them to join with other studios.
>>58433424Yeah. Pokémon has the numbers to make a 100M$ title every year for over 1000 years.Even if we assume the games have like 1/8 of the resources of the whole company.Creatures are a bunch of greedy faggots.
>>58432969Pokemonbros.. how do we respond..https://x.com/Icewallowcumin/status/1979109942771536266
>>58432969Can I go run around the entirety of that city on the bottom?
>>58441192God Fucking Damnit EVERYONE is laughing at us again!
>>58441156>Sure but having to make bigger and bigger games every year and 3-4 projects at the same time to have something to release isn't healthy.Falcom is juggling Kiseki and Ys at the same time and putting out at least one game pretty much every year, while again having fewer employees and less money, and they still look and play better than GF's slop.>TPC should stop being a fucking bunch of burocratic cheapskates. Game Freak wears the pants in the relationship, not TPC. The leaks made that abundantly clear. They are cheap and lazy by choice.If anyone's pressuring them to constantly shit out games, it would be Nintendo anyway, since the games are system-sellers in spite of how awful they are.
>>58441192>muh voice actingThank god these people are irrelevant.
>>58441360With how many languages pokemon supports it's a good thing we don't have voice acting desu. That shit will take up so much space and gamefreak has shown they don't know how to optimize games even without voice acting
>>58441192SV is so fucking dogshit
and both are great fun
>>58436152That is not true at all. The last game was literally a horror visual novel.
>>58441067The point was that SV and ZA are even worse, not that PLA is fantastic. Personally, I can play PLA and enjoy it, but SV and ZA hurt my eyes.
you know every jrpg has jp/eng only voiceacting? retards
>>58432969that girl on the bottom is hot
>>58442246A spin off
>>58441152>HARAM!!!
>>58441056Has been more consistent than Pokeslop at least
>>58440225Cope
>>58432969>poketroons get one small pushback against their horrid pokeslop thanks to motherfucking digimon (the new digimon game is outdated and janky too, nothing crazy)>ITT: AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK DIGIFAGS FUCK DIGIFAGS DELETE THIS DELETE THIS GO AWAY GO AWAY SHUT UP SHUT UP HOW MANY BUGATTIS CAN YOUR CEO BUY???
>>58443033It's usually just one seething Pokétard I've found with an unnatural, autistic hate for Digimon
>>58443033>outdatedJanky maybe but outdated lolno. Even the graphics aside the fact that it has a text log(which I was so fucking blown away to NOT see ZA have when its on some "friends we made along the way" shit) and theres a lot of QoL like showing you the multiplies your attack will get and pulling Digimon from storage to deal the most damage for sneak attacks.
I'm a fan of both Pokemon and digimon (tho I must admit digimon is more important in my heart).I'm playing both. I'm eating good. I'm happy. I'm having a good time. If you are incapable of enjoying both, it's your loss, get fucked.
>>58433000By "critics" on Nintendo payroll who need to kiss ass if they want to keep their "jobs".
>>58444339Same here. I'm on "holy shit, two cakes" mode.Digimon has the better cake (especially since I'm more of a story guy and I prefer turn based combat), but ZA is much better than what I expected between the trailers and the performance from last game.
>>58433053And what part of them are fun exactly?
>>58441357By why isn’t Nintendo putting any pressure on them to stop fucking up their products?
>>58436085>no bikinis in sight At least it got the gay part down
>>58432969Just reached the forest area in Time Strangers, I'm already really loving all the different environments, even the Japan segment of the game was nice.
>>58442246To be fair Survive did start as a smaller scale project to basically have something to release so there wouldn't be a drought between games. Then covid happened, and then they had to restart production at least once, and then the game kept growing on scope.Survive is probably the reason Habu is no longer Digimon's producer at Bandai.That anon is full of shit because Pokémon also know what genre it is, I don't know what he was implying.But looking at Digimon games you can consider Digimon Story the main digimon series, Time Stranger just got hit with early production trouble (and covid) so there's a weird 8 years gap they filled with re-releases of the latest 2 games (while leaving the sprite-based ones to rot, sadly) and Survive, but the first 6 games released within a reasonable time frame from one another from 2006 to 2017.
>>58444965As in Pokémon went from an indie RPG with RNG mechanics to some "souls-like" slop, BOTW open world attempt
>>58436085>pokemon should dump hundreds of millions into one game because...uh...
>>58445150>...they have 100 billion dollars
>>58445170and the reason they have billions is because they don't go full retard on budgets
>>58445182they should at least make the budget more than $50
>>58444696Because you keep buying them anyway.
>>58445146>"souls-like" slop, BOTW open world attemptHow does modern Pokémon fits any of those buzzworlds? Even the open world thing, it's not remotely the same kind of Open World as the Zelda games, it's a partially open map with linear objectives and storyline you can't really ignore or skip steps. That's a more old school approach to open world.
>>58432982They are both in 3D?
You people do understand that Pokémon isn't one nebulous entity right? The games are a small part of the revenue. The game studio doesn't see the lion's share of the profit. Now, should TPC, whose board has senior and former members of Game Freak as well, give more budget and devtime to the games? Yes. Is that going to impact their profit? No, so they're not going to do that because they can't justify it to shareholders. Most of Pokémon's money comes from merch and cards and mobile stuff. TPC's president was all but rooting against the Switch out of a desire to pivot to mobile.
>>58445211The point is that they are trying too hard to experiment and be different, but trying to fit in similar to other franchises. That's what I meant. Those aren't "buzzwords" anon
>>58445377How is ZA or PLA or whatever game you're talking about anything like a souls-like?And nice ignoring the point about open world I talked about.
>>58445394The dodging mechanics for oneAnd you can't deny that Pokémon has attempted to go down the open world slop. Stop being in denial
>>58445584I'm not denying it's open world, I'm denying it's the same kind of open world as breath of the wild.But I'm not keep discussing with some retard who thinks Souls games invented dodging.
>>58445630I'm not the only one who has said this either though
>>58445630>Souls games invented dodgingThe Souls connection around all of the dodge roll/parry slop hate is a red herring.The reason dodge and parry have become reviled is because they:>Homogenize game design>More specifically, preclude many interactionsNew games try to build original systems, but often end up shitting on their attempts by including dodges and parries. The capacity to freely avoid damage is well and good in reaction-heavy games, but likewise renders trade-off mechanics DOA. Imagine how absurd this uniform tendency to damageless game design would be if extended to chess or RTSes.The most recent nadir for this philosophy is Expedition 33. That game asks the player to negotiate basic reaction tests with an assortment of turn-based mechanics. It's a very naive execution. To harmonize these elements, its sequel could, for example, try to leverage the series' emphasis on finesse and rhythm to have more methodical fencing battles, maybe closer to something like Worldless (which has its own parry slop problems, but is also more mindful about them).If one wanted to extract a general rule from this dodge/parry slop epidemic, it'd be something like:>Don't integrate mechanics in a way that makes them run orthogonallyYou can also extrapolate this rule to other clashing systems. For example, RPGs that have a single currency for convenience and unique items, which conditions players to hoard. Or WRPGs that allow save-scumming, but also have charisma rolls.
>>58446502To be honest, reading through the previous threads a lot of anons said it was more similar to Xenoblade
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>>58432969They stole palworlds battle system and couldnt even get it to function 3 quarters as well too
>>58432969I love Shin Megamimon Tensei: Digimon Devil Saga
>>58433053
>>58446674>The first two titles in the series were published by Namco (now Bandai Namco Entertainment)
