>See an alleyway I want to go down with an item teasing me>"WOAH, HEHE FRIENDLY ROTOMDEX HERE XD YOU CAN'T GO THERE, WE NEED TO GET COOKIES FOR THE HOTEL XDDDD">See a ladder going somewhere interesting>"SLOOOOW DOWN THERE FRIEND! WE STILL HAVEN'T PURGED THOSE DONUTS YOU DOWNED AT THE CAFE! REMEMBER TO PUT YOUR HANKERCHIEF ON THE FLOOR BEFORE PUKING IN THE PUBLIC BATHROOM ^____^">See a plaza with an obstacle course filled with items for me to collect>"UHHH, SWEETIE, AREN'T YOU FORGETTING THAT IMPORTANT TASK YOU WERE GIVEN? THIS DICK ISN'T GOING TO SUCK ITSELF :PPPP"LETMEPLAYTHEFUCKINGGAME.I WANTTO EXPLORE.I WANT TO FUCKING PLAY. I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT CUTSCENE, I WANT TO FUCKING PLAY THE GAME. ALSO WHY DID THEY ESTABLISH ROTOM AS A LIVING POKEDEX? WHAT A FUCKING STUPID MOVE. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE SOME TEMPORARY SHIT FOR SUN AND MOON BUT THEY KEEP ON, IT'S NOT FUNNY AND IT JUST FUCKING BREAKS IMMERSION AND WORLDBUILDING. LIKE WHAT, EVERYONE JUST HAS A PERSONAL ROTOM???? AND IT CAN SPEAK TO HUMANS PERFECTLY, BUT NEVER CROSS COMMUNICATES OR TRANSLATES?FUCK YOU. FUCK ROTOM. FUCK, LET ME PLAY YOU'RE WORSE THAN OAK. AT LEAST HE JUST STOPPED ME FROM FUCKING BIKING ON A ROOFTOP, WHICH MADE SENSE. YOU WON'T EVEN LET ME PICK UP THE GLOWING STAR ON THE FLOOR 1 FOOT AWAY FROM THE INVISIBLE BARRIER.>"Uh oh, melty @w@"I HATE YOU ROTOM
>>58433160after playing SM none of this phazes me anymorelike oh yeah a couple hours of tutorials before the game lets you off the rails big dealin SM that shit never let up
>>58433209Have you played ZA yet? When do they let me actually play the fucking game? I'm about to blow my brains out. I'm overleveling in the lower zones because I just wanna fucking plau.
>>58433209SM was the only pokemon game i ever quit midway, ZA looks like its gonna be the second.
>>58433237Relax bro, the tutorial is only the first 30 hours.
>>58433237I'm at 2:11 and I think it let me off the chain but I'm already burned out so I haven't checked if it'll let me go anywhere.Checking the refund policy at the store i got it from.
>>58433264maybe if you stopped trying to explore and wasting time getting stopped and focused on finishing the tutorial you'd be actually exploring by now
>>58433280MaybeMaybe if the game wasn't unfun I'd be having fun.
>>58433237after the looker bureau sidequests (probably 2 hours in if you rush, took me 3 because i was stubborn about trying to explore everything and catch all the pokemon in each area) they take the training wheels off and you can run around the whole city
>>58433160I feel that.
>>58433294So stop playing it then if you're not having fun. Play something else.
>>58433316Stop lying. I thought I was finally free and then during the night session they called it early after I did the rank up thingThe town npcs have the nerve to then be like "try to beat as many trainers as you can!" I CANT MY STUPID ROTTEN """FRIENDS""" ARE SO NEEDY THEY CANT GO FIVE MINUTES WITHOUT MAKING ME ACCOMPANY THEM
>>58433342>lyingshut the fuck up faggoti'm 23 hours in forgive me for forgetting the exact order of events 21 hours ago
>>58433342Oh that's where I was here >>58433264 when i thought they let me go.Yeah, that checks out, I had a feeling it wasnt the end of the bullshit.
>>58433362You're the one who should have shut the fuck up if you weren't even sure.Stupid bitch cant even remember shit.
>>58433460if you're this worked up over the tutorial then just quit playing the game already you stupid nigger
>J-just don't play it!!lmao, the final cope
>>58433471If you're this worked up over seeing negative comments you should just quit reading them.
oh wait this isn't even a real thread you literally just want to argue for no reasonlmao
>>58433510Yes anon, all the haters are fake. The game is universally beloved.I'm not just absolute livid that I payed $80 for this can't get a refund.I'm just a rage baiter.
>>58433532>he fucking paid for thisyou know you can just emulate it for literally free, right? FUCKING RETARD LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>58433160Kys gibbs you fucking loser
>>58433160Uh, I think you got some weird antipiracy check going on. Rotom has never said any of that to me. Do you actually get a cutscene for the dick sucking? If so, where'd you download you rom? Asking for a friend.
... Just finish the tutorial then?
>>58433160Yeah the first 40 minutes or so really suckLuckily after you get to rank Y the game opens up a lot
>>58433160>I think you're getting the hang of it now. Using your minds, to have a good time>I can't wait to explore this game that I spent 80+$ on.>Whoa there friend you might need to slow down!
Don't hate Rotom itself. Hate Game Freak for what they did to the little thing
>>58433326Dancing dudes in BW don't seem so bad now eh? At least it was a funny gag.
>>58433160Why ths fuck have Rotoms infected every single pokedex?
>>58433160hey man rotom's just doing his job being a phone take that shit out on the dumbass friend npcs
>>58433160Rotom has nothing to do with that. It's your rival doing that. You're still in the tutotial. Do the 3 side quests Emma gives you and you're free to go anywhere.
>>58433160>Rotom>Factory farmed to be turned into a smart device assistant when AI existsThe very concept of Rotom died there. It's supposed to be haunted toys and appliances. Ghost in the machine makes machine go crazy! This isn't goddamned Porygon!
Remember how in PLA you could basically explore the entire wild area from start to finish at your own pace however you wanted with whichever mechanics and tools you had at your disposal?Did they try to make a game unlike PLA in every way? They looked at what people liked about that game and said fuck that.
Palworld is better lmao
>>58433160Why are you blaming the phone and not your rival? I don't get it. Did you even play it?
>>58433253He got away with it, and it's our fault. It's on all of us.
>>58433160You should know better that if the game isn't open world, you need to roll the credits first before you're allowed to actually play the game.
>>58434528>play PLA>Okay this game is rough around the edges but being able to move around so freely is very fun, I love exploring and finding neat places. Can't wait to see how the next game builds up on that>play ZA>Woah slow down there chum are you trying to take a detour on me? You will walk in a straight line to the next objective so you can accompany your friend while he takes a piss you CUNTBravo gamefreak, always one step forwards two steps backwards
>>58433326That genuinely made me laugh out loud, and when he criticises the croissant curry, moody sod.
>>58433160It is quite immersion breaking ngl. I suspect they'll move away from it eventually.>>58433326You have about 30 more mins until they let you run free, when you visit Wild Zone 2. That's when you're able to explore fully.>>58434043This pretty much
>>58434648>I love exploring and finding neat placesWhat neat places? The maps were completely empty.
>>58434528Remember how exploration in PLA was pointless because the maps were completely barren?
>>58433160Sinnoh lost
>>58434528explore what lolempty fields to find korok wisps?
>>58433160a true sequel to XYIm playing it now to catch up on the series and it's just like that tooevery single path is blocked by a random dude who somehow knows you need to go see some plot faggoti know these games are made for babies but do babies really need their hands held so hard in videogames? I thought kids were supposed to be getting better at these kinds of things now that they're becoming normalised
>>58433160this only really happens in the first 2 or 3 hours of the game, i've been running around collecting every mon i see on the city, and the only thing the game is really asking me is to go fight a guy to get to a higher rank.
>>58433160>>58433253What is Japans obsession with absurdly long handholdy tutorials? They've been pulling this shit for decades. Do Japanese players actually LIKE this type of shit?
>>58433160>finally get to a point where I can play>only a few hours in, Rank W, plenty of ranks to go and game to play>get to Vinnie>"Beat me and you can go from Rank V to Rank F immediately">No way around it>Suddenly half way through the game after a few hoursCome on man.
>>58435208Did you really want to do the >fight random trainers>fight boss>rank uploop 26 fucking times
I'm losing my interest in playing because of this. The whole atmosphere feels like it's supposed to encourage you to roam around and explore but there's so many interruptions and obstacles when you actually try to do that.
>>58433209I'm like seven hours in and it's still doing this for me. Feels just like SM but with fewer endearing characters to distract me.
>>58435557>do you really want to play the game?why is this a question
>>58435208Wait seriously? I'm getting close to this point then. I was wondering if they'd really make you do the loop 26 times when you unlock basically the whole city the moment you are let off your leash.
>>58435557If it's fun to do, why not?
>>58434602Nomura had nothing to do with Final Hallway XIII, stop being disingenuous. It was all Toriyama's fault.
>>58435159>Japan made Fallout 3>Japan made Red Dead Redemption 2>Japan made Cyberpunk 2077>Japan made Assassins Creed 3WRPGs are just as shit as JRPGs, anon
>>58433160this completely stops after a little while, i think around the time you rank up for the first time, much like arceus. i almost quit arceus because of this, but i'm glad it just let me fucking let me do whatever i wanted after a bit
I don't really mind the interruptions so much but it's weird how much it feels like this game is pushing you forward to get the experience over and done with. Sun and Moon was railroaded but it didn't feel like it discouraged you taking your time. In Z-A every scene feels like it leads into another NPC slightly off screen telling you to come to them ASAP. I wouldn't blame people for rushing through this one.
>>58435858Don't worry, It starts doing it again as the "story" wraps up.
>>58434739Were they? I recall finding items and pokemon everywhere.
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>>58433160>AND IT CAN SPEAK TO HUMANS PERFECTLYAnon are you retarded?? The Rotom itself NEVER talks, it's Taunie/Urbain calling you you fucking dumbassJust finish the fucking tutorial nigga
>>58433160op, what you are having a meltdown over stops after the first 20 minutes of gameplay.
>>58435208>Game makes you skip 15 ranksFucking...just...This shit is NMH3 all over again. Did they bring Suda in to write for them or something?
>>58435879sm was a literal tutorial for an hour straight
>have enough>try to off myself by jumping off a building>ROTOM safety kicks in and I surviveJUST LET ME DIE PLEASE
>>58434911And we all payed the price
>>58436360I think everyone hates when the ranks get skipped. feels like you got bait and switched or like a scam like 100-in-1 games but it's bootleg nes shit and like 85 rom hacks of super mario bros. like they're saying there are going to be all these ranks and then suddenly this happens and it feels like fucking shit. the game is still about as long as any other pokemon game but it's expensive so that hurts the experience.
When do I get the glide jump or whatever? Tired of seeing shit I can't reach.
>>58436548just before/after mega beedrill
>>58436503Just leave by the train bro :^)
Ok. Haven't even hit W yet so I'll just rank up. I'm enjoying side quests and stuff but it's annoying knowing I'm playing without an important tool.
>>58436524Maybe you did but I'm having a blast.
>>58433160Rotomdex is the worst thing pokemon games have ever done. Even worse than having no voice acting, shitty textures, and selling you the same game for over two decades.
>>58436548>>58436562This right here is the most retarded shit. I can't even explore the city cause I can't do half of these parkour puzzles without the glide so I guess all I can do is rush the story.I've just abandoned doing the wild areas for now to just power through the game. I just became rank F and I still feel frustrated from how limited I am.
>>58433160I miss the unique pokedexes bros
>>58434528PLZA could have been like GTA in terms of exploration.
>>58435557Why is earning your rank a bad thing now?
>>58435557What else are you gonna do, this game is fucking empty
>infinite battle royale>have to fight 20+ level 40+ trainers to qualify>first battle is against level 8 pokemonwhat the actual fuck
>>58433160>THIS DICK ISN'T GOING TO SUCK ITSELF :PPPPhot...
>no way to set focus as a toggledid not a single person playest this game and find permanently holding LZ a huge pain?
>>58437991Toggling would be retarded, you need to let go of focus regularly to let your mon reposition properly.
>>58435557You know, they could actually be real game designers and have this simplified in a more satisfying way by doing a battle royale or something to quickly rank up in succession. It'd feel much better for the player even if it was like a speed-dating kind of thing where everyone you face just has one strong Pokemon you knock out and move onto the next. Or showcase the online battle royale mechanics similar to how double battles were showcased for the psychic Gen III gym. That'd probably be the most fitting solution desu, all the trainers against each other but the AI is set to dogpile you a little.
>>58437024Because it's bad pacing and the game's minuscule scope would make it even worse. Fighting a dozen jobbers inbetween story beats is nothing new for a pokemon game but normally that's obfuscated by new areas to explore, mons to find, and people to talk to. ZA has nothing new to show you, wild areas can be cleared out in a matter of minutes, and the trainers still pose absolutely no threat. It's pure padding and the game has to lock you out of the next "gym" until you finish clearing all 8-15 trainers on route 1(again).I can 100% guarantee that if the game really did make you fight through all 26 ranks when only 10 have anything of interest you niggers would turn right around and complain about how forced, repetitive, and tiresome it is. The grass is always fucking greener.
>>58439686>I can 100% guarantee that if the game really did make you fight through all 26 ranks when only 10 have anything of interest you niggers would turn right around and complain about how forced, repetitive, and tiresome it is.They do in fact do this, it's called getting AZ's Floette by getting 750,000points over 15 (fifteen) battle royale nights
>>58435841Nomura getting unfairly blamed for everything was the original version of Masuda getting unfairly blamed for everything.
>>58433160This only happens for like 2-3 hours
>>58433264The game is LITERALLY just opening up you can go anywhere now lol
>>58435208That is clearly not halfway through the game, the first chunk of ranks is fake lol
>>58434228I don't know why that gets singled out in BW when the fact that the start of the game has you dragged around by your rival for quite some time and its all a real turn off. Early BW fucking sucks.
>>58440822Even BW2 railroads you into pokestar studios
