>inb4 this a Pokémon board GTFO, etc.Honestly it's never been more apparent now than it's ever been.>shitty pokemon modelsno texture definition, or normal maps and they look like they made by college students nowadays using blender.>humans are overall designed better than the pokemon when it's about the Pokémon >mid gameplayLiterally patching a system from fucking 30 years ago withbullshit like iv/evs and new items. Common folks, you are only hurting yourselves at this point. I dropped this shit years ago, you should do the same. There are better Rpgs and monster games out there.
>>58434223The DS era in terms of content but S/V was the dealbreaker.
>>58434223Pokemon X/Y was the breaking point for me, but Black and White did the most damage to my perception of the series prior to that. I started with Pokemon blue on GBCSince then I turned to fangames, romhacks and pokemon showdown
>>58434243I actually quit after gen two when I discovered other JRPGS and started deep diving into off the beaten path JRPGs. Gen 3 looked like shit in comparison to everything else on the GBA, I was on an allowance system back then and had to be careful with cash. I tried to get back into it during gen 4, but ivs/evs were fucking bullshit and I didn't have time to fuck around with invisible stats on 30 odd mons for online shit. I just pop into see what's going on with the series, and it's almost never good.
>>58434298same. Well except the fan games and romhacks, I just started deep diving searching for better JRPGS; being a fan of this series is like being with an abusive lover.
>>58434223Hints during sun and moon. Full proof during Scatviol
>>58434223>no texture definition, or normal mapsStopped reading here. Models had these in SV and most people hated it. Retarded take.
>>58434223Battle Frontier Project
>>58434489wuddya mean? These flat models with Fresnel look like shit my guy.
>>58434243I agree with the DS era.
>>58434223>common folksNigger shit the fuck up it’s not that fucking serious you sound so god damn corny
>>58434223After Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, when they announced they were getting rid of the complete Pokédex. Removing other features from past games didn't help.
>>58434854>it’s not that fucking serious Good studios game studios are losing funding and laying people off lost my job twice because shit got cut. While trite shit like pokemon ZA keeps getting pumped out without question.
>>58434223I haven't even played anything past Gen 7. I plan to visit Gen 8 at some point in 2027 but currently I am still improving my battle factory streak in Emerald and then I want to get deeper into gen 2 glitches. Also I already work on a system using the reverse engineered Emerald code to have better AI battle with LLMs possible also using reinforcement learning There is just no time to get into the newer stuff anyways
>>58434890That sucks but that also just sounds like the industry being shit, hope you find some luck and it sticks
>>58434223SM was it for me. Pokemon has been complete garbage since gen 6. HG/SS and BW2 were the last good games in this series. I'm just here for amusement over how shit ZA is and how you retards still buy it.
Between SM and the announce of USUM.I wanted SM to be like USUM.I decided to not buy new consoles.Last game SM.I hated BW2; it was boring. Unpopolar but BW > BW2.
2013came back recently just out of curiosity and lmao
>>58434223I skipped XY because they were pathetic only by looking at them, i tried ORAS and i was disappointed, i gave my last chance to Sun, and it was below mediocre. I stopped then, because they alreay failed three times in a row. Only idiots would give them a chance after three shits in a row. After that i only played hack roms or replayed old games
>>58434984Thanks anon, I have conversed with several dudes at various events and it's been wacky for the last year and half. Amazing projects that I can't talk about here have been canceled and it's a crying fucking shame.
I don't think I've ever been less interested in the series than Legends Z-A.I don't care it's all set in the city, I don't care about no voice acting and so on, but I just can't describe just how shit it looks. It looks like a bunch of assets thrown together, not a cohesive game with vision.
>>58434223SwSh was the breaking point. Even after XY was inferior to the DS era as a whole (Yes even DP were better), I was still willing to buy the games despite the problems with the series at this point.Technically I stopped with Let's Go, but I wholly intended to get Gen 8 at first. And then Dexit happened and singlehandedly killed any interest I had in the franchise. Legends Arceus temporarily brought it back enough for me to buy SV which admittedly I ended up enjoying, but Legends ZA killed it again by getting rid of everything that made Legends Arceus fun. Ironically if we got a Legends Johto game like GF intended ZA to be, maybe I would've bought it like a good little paypiggy.
>>58434223But SV was kino tho? It's become one of my fav games, and I played them all on release.ZA is fun so far as well but I'm afraid the story is gonna be pretty lame. But the fights are fun
>>58435678> But the fights are funHow is that possible when they aren't turn based?
>>58436054If anything it made me realize how boring turnbased is for normal gameplay. Like when you just battle random trainers in the wild, you literally just spam A. Turnbased is only interesting when it's difficult and 95% of the fights in Pokémon are not difficult. This system is way more fun for the campaign.
>>58434223she still looks better designed than 3/4ths of the z-a megas doe
>>58434223X/Y more or less killed my interest overnight, and BDSP ensured that I will never get that interest back
XY with me.Game was so easy it literally played itself. I shit you not when I reached the League I auto piloted mashing A without looking and when I realized the credits started playing.The game felt unfinished too and the three power plants proved me right.ORAS proved me right next being worse remakes learning nothing from HGSS.SM gave me a bit of hope because I actually liked them and thought the Pokemon designs weren't complete shit and the games feeling more solid but SwSh just made me realize the franchise should stay dead. Sometimes you just gotta end things.
>>58436070I am probably way to used to battle facilities and showdown to consider that turn based in the story part is indeed mostly boring.
>>58436181Is Mega Scolipede's ability gonna be Merciless? Kinda seems that way...
Gen 1-5/2D Era: The Original Era of Love with one final callback and sendoffGen 6-7/2.5D Era: The Transition into 3D, a very rough time and it showsGen 8-Current/3D Era/The Fall: The slow decline and transition into maximum merchandising, microtransactions, and just pure mass produced slop, which will begin officially with the New Era starting Gen 10.
>>58434223I shoulda quit after Gen 4, but unfortunately I stayed. Community is trash, pvp is soulless and the franchise is riddled with the worst kind of severe autism I’ve ever seen, especially rigid comptards, both smoggies and vgc
>>58434794>please care about Digimon
>>58434223LGPE. I knew something was off when Meltan/Melmetal was shoehorned as part of Gen 7 despite being unobtainable in Alola. This isn't like the Pokemon I know and love at all. Then Dexit happened and proved me right. I knew right then Pokemon is dead now, a shambling corpse puppeteered without a soul.
How many here also felt like this?
>>58436181I'll never get over how terrible that starmie design is.
>>58437252Me until I played SV and really liked it.
>>58434223When they blatantly lied about "Ultra Changes" in USUM and then it did nothing to fix SM or live up to Alola's potential.
>>58434223SM was a pretty direct message that this series is for children.
>>58435070We are the same, but I like BW2 but still agree BW base is better it could be it's own JRPG
>>58434223I finally dropped Pokemon franchise during Switch era with Pokemon Sword being the only Pokemon game I cared about at Switch and the last main Pokemon game I've played (it goes without saying that I refused buying the paid DLCs). That and the Switch port of Pokken since I never owned a Wii U. Even the anime is now a boring DEI-pandering slop except a few anime specials.
>>58437671Really? I thought it was a pretty direct message that it's for pedos.
There are better RPGs but I havent played many other monster collection games that get the formula right in the same way. In SMT/digimon the fusion/evolution systems dont give the same feeling of raising and journeying with a team of creatures. They just kind of feel like disposable weapons that you change to suit your situation (which makes sense for SMT but less so for digimon)Most of the indie monster collectors that Ive played have a similar issue when it never feels like the monsters are a part of the world. Like that collectable monsters exist is relevent but none of the individual monsters are, if that makes sense? They expect you to already understand what a world filled with monsters is like from Pokémon and write a story and world with that assumption in place.
>>58437817>Most of the indie monster collectors that Ive played have a similar issue when it never feels like the monsters are a part of the world. Like that collectable monsters exist is relevent but none of the individual monsters are, if that makes sense? They expect you to already understand what a world filled with monsters is like from Pokémon and write a story and world with that assumption in place.So modern Pokemon's still got it?
>>58434223>Common folks,There are no common folks here lmaoHalf this board wants to fuck the series' canonically preteen cast and the other half wants to fuck the creatures themselves.
>>58434794>t. digitranny
dropped mainline at SMcame back for legends and it took them 1 game whole game after that to fuck up that sub-series
>>58434223SM was the last game i bought
>>58437913USUM was mine although it's because 3DS was the last Nintendo console I own
>>58434223The people who actually dropped the series wouldn't post here.
>>58437929by the time USUM came out i had modded my 3DS and i just pirated the game because SM was shit and i had low expectationsand my expectations turned out to be too high
>>58437671I remember being embarrassed at their insistence that you're a 10 year old. Why bother? Previous protags have had higher or ambiguous ages before.
>>58438123Only during BW1 and XY which was when they tried to age alongside the kids who started with Gen 4(and ZA but that's way later)
Zoom zoom, dudes starting in gen4? WTF
>>584342232007, 2015 or 2022. You can choose the year.
Gen V ofcRelegating game aspects and elements behind a shitty time-limited browser game tied with the core games were absolute jewish, hellishly unfinishedBut the beginning of the end was Gen 4 and the whole Spiritomb bullshit required to find and catch it
>>58440447Extremely based and correct except for this>But the beginning of the end was Gen 4 and the whole Spiritomb bullshit required to find and catch itIt's barely more effort than a trade evolution.
>>58434223SwSh. I didn't get a Switch. That's pretty much it, though I was also pretty miffed about dexit. Will probably get a Switch 2 for Prime 4 (and to finally play Dread), but I think I might get Arceus and gen 10 if it looks non dogshit.
>>58440447>>58441424Like I said earlier, Gen 3 made me quit >static sprites and shitty sprite quality at that.>bullshit natures iv/evs further complicating the fuck out everything>reused models from the N64 on the Gamecube-up to the wii.Zoomies don't realize how atrocious that was, the leaps per GAMING generation were colossal back then. graphically accept pokemon. I also played many monster Jrpgs within the two year gap between G/S/C and R/S>Jade Cocoon >Arc the Lad >DQ monsters>bootleg medarot >dokkaponand they were all better than pokemon.
>>58441665>graphicsfagging
>>58434223Are you people starting to get it?
>>58441680nah,nah. They looked like shit dude, those were the crappiest sprites on the console. This Rpg was released the same year as R/G in Japan. This was a side game and it was more intensive than pokemon at the time.https://youtu.be/5iNNAPAcVsQ?t=256]After you won enough battles you could use your regular party members for easy leveling.
>When did you realize it was time to drop the series? Around the time when Ninty decided to just bully their competition instead of asking GF to actually do better.
