>"It's a reference to something though!">"It's so goofy and memey though!">"It makes the design memorable though!">"You didn't like the original Pokemon though!">"It makes you mad so I like it though!">"It's grown on me though!">"It's supposed to be bad though!">"It's good in competitive though!">"You'll buy it anyways though!"
>>58438845What’s fucked up is that I kinda like both of those, and I’ll guaranteed hate what we actually get
What would a pokemon not based on anything look like? The complete absence of all concepts, the only way a design could be bad. Just a pure void of nothing?
>digimon much?and that's a bad thing why?
>>58438912it would look kike Evolotto from alpha gen 3
>>58438912Uh...literally the Genwun pokedex? Obviously not all of them. But like, Geodude is just a rock. It's not based on some obscure prehistoric animal or myth.
>>58438912the issue isn't that it's based on something, the issue is people saying you can't criticize it because it's based on something.
>>58438845why is callum the strawman? his entire channel is about wanking off game freak
>>58438845Baxcalibur is literally the mon I am most excited for his mega and if it is goofy shit I'll be so fucking disappointed.I have some faith because none of the pseudo megas are designed to be goofymons (even Mega Dragonite which just tries to be cute while being very close to the original), but I really don't want to jinx it.Also please don't be as ugly as Mega Garchomp
>>58438845Considering they are charging for this DLC, the new megas BETTER be good.
>>58438845What even is with the people that go "it's not bad it's a reference!"Like I don't care if baxcalibur is a reference to godzilla, it's ugly. Other kaiju mons are perfectly cool on their own
>>58438991It’s just pure cope. That’s it.
>>58438979>>58438845Baxcalibur is a weird fucking example to use here considering it's already a major perpetrator of the "DUDE IT'S A REFERENCE DO YOU GET IT DO YOU GET THE REFERENCE WHO CARES IF IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT IT'S FUNNY IT'S REFERENCING SOMETHING DO YOU GET IT" design philosophy that more people are complaining about, it's one of the absolute last Pokemon in the leaked DLC list you should have any hope for
>what mega baxcalibur will actually be like
>>58439069I don't care about "muh references". I actually like Baxcalibur the way it is and has potential for a good mega, just like how Chesnaught got a great mega.
>>58438938This.
>>58439122I'm sorry but in that case "your favorite was always a jokemon" actually applies to you, and you should accept that you won't be in any position to complain if (or when) it gets a retarded looking mega.
>>58439088i can physically feel anon's hatred towards gamefreak just by looking at this image (and he's right for it)
I HATE POKEMON
I'll kill myself if they make it a goofy mon instead of Space Godzilla
>>58439368>"your favorite was always a jokemon"Elaborate
>>58439069literally the only problem with baxcalibur is its head is too smooth. the face in the first image op posted already fixes 90% of the design's issues. It genuinely looks like a first draft of a Pokemon design.
>>58438845Redditors are like teenage girls in the sense that they'll buy literally anything because they have so much expendable money
>>58438845me on the leash
>>58438989They charge for the base game, and we got a mega that’s literally just its base form but taller.
>>58438845>erm, Digimon much?You wish.If you don't like a Digimon's design, you're not stuck with it. Don't like Magnadramon? Use Ophanimon instead. Or Mastemon. Or Venusmon. Don't like Mega Feraligator? Too bad, bucko. The line is ruined and there's nothing you can do about it.
THIS is Mega Baxcalibur.
>>58439717>Becomes a jobbermon
>>58438979>mega garchomp>uglygod i hope bax gets an even uglier design just out of spite for your shit taste, liking bax gives it away
Why not make a new species instead of a Mega Baxcalibur for the dimetrodon-looking fella?
>>58438917that looks like dogshit. theres a reason the only mainstream digimons are Aguemon, Terriermon, and the angel woman one
>>58439469>literally the only problem with baxcalibur is its head is too smooth>the face in the first image op posted already fixes 90% of the design's issuesLol no, the Mega design in the OP had to completely alter practically everything about the original to make it look good.>Lengthened the arms and tail>Shrunk the head>Gave it an actual defined upper torso and shoulders so the body isn't just a tube>Extended the tiny tacked-on Concavenator hand frills into a functional design element, and removed the distracting red accent from them that would draw the eyes away from the main focal points of the design to a much less relevant feature (or in the case of the original design, a completely irrelevant feature)>Used more varied and organic shapes all over the design, but particularly on the body platingI think the only real flaw in this Mega design is that it totally removed the red accent instead of moving it onto the back fins somewhere to help draw attention to them (a nice vein-like pattern would fit really well with the whole Thermal Exchange ability). TL;DR fuck you, Baxcalibur is OBJECTIVELY a fuckass piece of ugly dogshit design that clearly had no thought or effort put into it beyond "omg it Godzilla and he fly like in Hedorah movie so funny and epic XDDDD" and it got completely shown up by a design in a silly shitpost drawing that probably wasn't even consciously trying to fix it. "The only problem with baxcalibur is its head is too smooth" my ass.
>>58439750No, Garchomp is fine but Mega Garchomp is disgusting. Only complete edgyfags like it. It is very close to Mega Lati@s's shittiness.
>>58439965No, it's just your shit taste
>>58440017Nope it’s fucking shit, thankfully the ZA DLC will save ust. Garchompfag
My guess is they’ll lean into the “xcalibur” part of its name and turn its back spike into a removable sword for the Mega to swing around.
>>58438936>Obviously not all of themI would honestly say most of them though. For a lot of them, the "reference" is an animal (Rattata/Raticate are just rats), but some are a bit more obscure. >Voltorb/Electrode are mimics>Grimer/Muk are slimes>Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite are dragons>Magikarp?Gyarados are referencing the myth of a fish climbing a waterfall and becoming a dragon>Machop/Machoke/Machamp are pro wrestlers>Hitmonchan is a boxer>Hitmonlee references a yokai that has no head and a face on its torso>Lickitung references a yokai with a long tongue>Drowzee references a yokai that eats dreams>Electabuzz is an oni>Kabuto/Omanyte are famous fossils>Paras/Parasect reference that fungus that zombifies bugs>a few are living inanimate objects, referencing the shinto belief of objects coming to life after so many yearsReally, the only one that I can't find an inspiration for is Chansey. It's an egg-shaped thing that carries an egg?
>>58439447Baxcalibur was already stepping on Tyranitar's toes by being another Godzilla reference so I doubt they'd do the exact same thing with the Mega too
>>58439965I always liked that its head resembled one of those bomber planes after megaing.
>>58439447I bet they'll make it the flying form of spacegodzilla, covered in the crystals
>>58438917God this looks so fucking cool
>>58438845I like both those designs. What Game Freak would actually do is just give it a human head for "guy in a suit" reference.
>>58439965This should be a male garchomp onyl evolution
>>58440596You're thinking too hard about the references
>>58438917this design doesnt work! Its TOO SEXY!
>>58439869If it had a gatling gun cod piece it would be 10/10 instead of 9/10
Just hope they give it frigibax's iconic face.
>>58438845>people defend Mega Victreebel but saying silly designs are ok>/vp/ thinks the most appropriate response is to have meltdowns over the word goofy forever>retards are trying to turn "It's growing on me" into a buzzword even though the obvious reason people are saying that is because we only had inaccurate leaks before and not the full official design with animationsI hate what /vp/ turned itself into.Maybe the reason Pokemon keeps succeeding is because the antis are a bunch of schizophrenic morons, ever considered that?
>>58442117It's just a hate circlejerk. The amount of misinformation and blatant shitposting this game has gotten is fucking insane.
>>58442117you're out of touch with reality lmao
>>58442117You're a shit-eater unfortunately. "It's growing on me." Themes, goofsloo and referenceslop are only ever used to defend shit designs and its good people are mocking those people.
>>58442222>referenceslopYou sound completely brainrotted.>its good people are mocking those people.No actually, I don't think it's good you're training people to ignore you.
>>58442238"People"? Not even you can manage it lmao. You know it's true.
>>58438845Sexo with waow girl
>>58438845lol
>>58438845is that fucking nostalgia critic?
>>58438845is mega star good in ranked tho?
>>58439447>>58440917>>58439717>implying mega bax won't be Super Godzilla
>>58438912I don't think anyone is asking for a Pokemon that's based on literally nothing at all.They're more railing against "it's based on something" as a defense for bad designs. Or at most, complaining about Pokemon that don't really go beyond their inspirations to be their own thing.Look at Slowpoke. What is it? A hippo? An otter? A giant salamander? A sazae-oni? Jadranka Stojaković? An embodiment of the concept of stupidity? All of the above?You can look for as much inspiration as you want, but the fact that you have to dig so deep and speculate on its inspirations shows that Slowpoke is ultimately just Slowpoke. It's its own thing.The same goes for other iconic mons like Snorlax, Chansey, the Nidos, Cubone, Eevee... Even Pikachu barely even resembles a mouse.Compare that to Baxcalibur, who's based on Godzilla and really doesn't go beyond that inspiration. It's just... ice Godzilla.
>>58442117>Acting like this shit only started with Mega Victreebel >Frogposter is a disingenuous retard This has been going on since fucking Sun and Moon and people are getting completely sick of it. We've had almost a fucking decade of dipshits defending this utterly horrible design philosophy as it slowly but surely becomes more and more common and ruins more and more designs every gen.
>>58438979The only pseudo mega I like is metagross, all the others are kinda bad
>>58439965What is the problem with the design? it just looks more fierce, maybe too much spikes in the chest, but the rest for me looks fine
>>58442117I started saying “it’s growing on me” just because watching autists melt down over mega Starmie is hilarious and it makes them upset
>>58443161This. I only hate it when people use the "it has an inspiration" shit as a virtue, that's not enough. The execution needs to be good too. Skibidi Toiletgatr will remain a timeless example.
Literally me.
>>58438917pure kino
>>58443164>This has been going on since fucking Sun and MoonAbsolutely not, this is revisionism. The Alola dex was well received overall. /vp/ was mindbroken beyond belief by Twitter liking Mega Victreebel because it's silly.
>>58444644>Absolutely not, this is revisionism
>>58444790Stupid argument, there's something silly looking in every generation.
>>58438917>grown men like this
>>58444830women will never understand and troons will pretend they don't like it because that's what a woman would do
>>58444809There's a difference between a silly design and a literal joke design, and there is especially a difference between taking an existing design specifically to turn it into a joke design.
>>58444892NTA but where do you draw the line between silly and joke? Is picrel a joke design?
>>58438845ENTER
>>58444892>There's a difference between a silly design and a literal joke designSounds like arbitrary garbage you came up with, just like how you arbitrarily decided Gen 7 was when it was too much.
>>58444923real
>>58438917
>>58444921>literally meant to resemble a punching bag>obscure reference to dead jap comedianyes
>>58443660*rapes you*
>>58444921Wobbuffet is a silly design. If you take the joke away from Wobbuffet you'd still have Wobbuffet exactly as it is because there is no joke to remove, it'd still be the exact same weird punching bag decoy creature with its true body hidden on its tail. Its Japanese name and a minor behavior may reference a Japanese comedian, but these things aren't part of its visual design at all.Alolan Persian is a joke design. If you take the joke away from Alolan Persian you have nothing left but a regular Persian recolored gray. There is quite literally nothing else going on with the design but the joke of it having a circle tooled round head that kind of makes it look like Garfield, and the whole thing exists specifically to make this joke. It was practically unheard of for any Pokemon to be designed with the same philosophy as Alolan Persian pre-Gen 7. Now they're becoming increasingly common.
>>58445132that can't be a real quote right? are you telling me you have mob bosses and people wanting mass genocide but no guns?
>>58438845Forget Bax, I’m more worried about Golisopod
>>58439368I kinda have a thing for Scovillain, and even I’m expecting it’s mega to be goofy looking, cause it already is a goofymon and a lesser unpopular one at that
>>58439069This, I remember when we first saw it the whole board was nothing but hate until people saw its attack animation and suddenly loved it for being a Godzilla reference. It was probably the design people took the least seriously in the entire dex, even more than intended jokemons.
>>58445215>mega is just a giant wimpod with golisopod eyes and a curly antennae mustache for good measure
>>58445215not a good example either since, yes, people always viewed Golisopod as goofythe concepts of cool and goofy aren't mutually exclusive, Golisopod is endearing exactly because it blends the two together
>>58444809Exactly. Gen 1 had goofymons like Lickitung, Slowpoke/Slowbro and fucking Mr. Mime. This has been a thing for even just a handful of Pokemon since red and green and you're crying about it now?
>>58443164Honestly, the Alola dex was still fine. The forced goofiness and quirkiness was mostly limited to a couple regional forms; not my cup of tea, but whatever. SWSH was the first time I hated most of the new Pokemon, and it's when they started bringing that Alolan Dugtrio/Persian style to the entire dex. Now it feels like they're openly designing Pokemon to get upvoted on Reddit.
>>58445215I am less worried about Golisopod because it not looking goofy at all while having goofy behavior is a core part of its personality. If the Mega ends up looking silly then it'll just show that Game Freak really do have no fucking clue what they're doing and don't even understand their own design choices.>>58445318>Lickitung>Slowpoke/Slowbro >Mr. MimeCould you explain what the jokes are here?
>>58438917I am so glad he is in Time Stranger
>>58445388RustTyranomon, my beloved...
>>58445348It's not that Alola is all bad, but it's absolutely where this all started and there were already complaints about it back then, so to act like this discourse suddenly began with Mega Victreebel is just wrong. This is years of pent up annoyance starting to boil over.
>>58438917Gundramon's official art is so unflattering, I used to really dislike it until I saw it in Time Stranger >>58445388>>58445270The attack is also funny on its own right. It ice skates on its head to hit the opponent with its back spike. It works for people who like silly pokémon even without the frame of reference.
Thanks asshole, now the idea of a space godzilla mega is in my head, and we'll never get it
One thing to keep in mind is that Mega Baxcalibur will need to keep at least one central spine in the back so the animation for Glaive Rush's animation still makes sense. The spikes on shoulders designs people like to do with it won't work for that reason.
>>58438991Kaiju, tokusatsu and super sentai media in particular are a holy trinity of sacred cows for fake weebs, they think all of them are universally good (they're not) and therefore any reference to anything from them is automatically also good (it's not).
>>58445215im not, its gonna be an ultra beast
>>58446240>Kaiju, tokusatsu and super sentai mediaAnon, Super Sentai falls into Tokusatsu. That's like listing "Anime and Dragon Ball" as separate things.
>>58445215Golisopod is fucking goofy retard
>>58446312Its design isn't goofy at all, it's a hulking mass of spiky armored bug. It's cool as fuck
>>58446412>Its design isn't goofy at all,It's a giant torso with even bigger arms with a small head resting on two little feet that would never support it
>>58442117YUM YUM YUM ME LOVE SLOP: The Post
>>58438845The best part of this image is that both designs are actually decent, and you just know GF is gonna shit out something worse
>>58446532>Literally any level of artistic license or unrealistic proportions at all = goofymon
>>58443161I appreciate this post anon
>>58445388>>58438917Badass. Digimon designs are cool as hell.
>>58445132Mega blastoise's dex entry in ZA mentions tanks
>>58442117This
>>58444862damn women really are smarter than men huh
>>58446412boycool = goofyother boycool stuff includes dinosaurs, monster trucks, and wrestling
>>58447513what are your favorite trooncool pokemon?
>>58439088KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOO
There's only one kauji Pokemon in my heart.
>>58447151
>>58448358what is this satanic nonsense
>>58447513What's actually cool to you then?
ITS GROWN ON ME DOE
>>58443161no they're telling you that because you're a trigger happy moron posting your knee jerk reaction to the appreciation of nobody and it's a polite way of telling you you're off the mark.
>>58449105https://youtu.be/jLpI94PfUes
>>58449105>Baxcalibur is a shit design that exists solely to be a dumb tokusatsu reference>Mega Starmie is a shit design that exists solely to be a dumb tokusatsu reference>Mega Feraligatr is a shit design that exists solely to be a dumb tokusatsu referenceI'm beginning to notice a pattern here
>>58449363I thought it was supposed to be that flag thing Japanese warriors used to wear on their backs
>>58449394What, feraligatr? No that's a skull
>>58449404It can be both...
>>58438845sex with pikafemboy
>>58449394>>58449414they could have easily split it to make it flags if they wanted to
>>58449363Feraligatr’s supposed to be manchild Totodile but I would not be surprised if the Revice thing was also intentional
>>58439088holy kek
>>58439088brilliant work anon
>>58450141>but I would not be surprised if the Revice thing was also intentionalnigger it is literally the entire design. They lifted it 1:1.
>>58449404I can’t get over how the arms stretch.
>>58439088it's growing on me
>>58450141They copied the revise thing entirely and made no changes to feraligatrs base form.
>>58449363It's not the tokusatsu design that's the problem but the complete fucking laziness.I feel bad for starmiefags because its going to fall fast in a game where you can't see it run or walk around.
>>58449105No
>>58439088I'm actually laughing.
Context is important especially in a game with designs as referential as Pokemon. What looks like random or seemingly contradictory design aspects can actually be shown to have a lot more thought and cohesion to a concept and that's a great thing. >>58445215Golisopod is a shout-out to one of the goofiest characters in all of Final Fantasy: Gilgamesh. Emergency Exit is even his penchant for bailing out of fights rather than actually being defeated. 90% chance they lean into Gil's own transformed state and call the switch out ability something like "Weapon Swapping"
>>58438845Gamefreak won
>>58442181that's /vp/
