I really don't get the hate for the Raichus
>>58444012me neither i think they're B tier
>>58443995Yaichu is not better than Xaichu. Fuck the orange painted pikancer mega.
>>58444031yaichu looks more like raichu than xaichu
>>58444023pyroar above dragonite and delphox is crazy
>>58444036i dont get why everyone hates it it's really simple and nonoffensive. im not a pyroar fan at all though
No new megas are above C tier except maybe Frosslass for being yuki onna grande
>>58443995>but it's actually good
>>58443995
I judged them within context of this game, not against all other megas
>>58444012they look stupid and cost 30 bucks
>>58444012They look AI generated
>>58443995always-upside down Greninja is ass
>>58445557Strange, because my AI generated Mega Raichu looks actually cool.
What I'm getting from this thread is that the most well liked new Megas are:>Froslass>Scolipede>Chandelure>Drampa
>>58443995They massacred my boy. All of the lobotomized retards claiming it's good on social media should be forced to be Amish. Fucking Japanese design philosophy.
>>58446060>>58445506>>58444023>>58443995based on what
>>58443995I love my girl's design... but why did they take her SPEED? Should have just lowered Sp.Atk, no one uses Special Moves with Scolipede.
>>58443995hawlucha, barbaracle and froslass are good/peakmeganium and dragonite are retardedraichus should die
>>58443995why do people like chandelureliterally just stapled more arms to it
>>58443995>mega dragonite>good
I think Excadrill could have been okay if it had animations actually closing up into a drill
I'm glad the designs weren't ALL bad.
>>58447115>Chandelier becomes a fancier chandelierMegas are a case where "it just gets bigger" is not only a totally valid design choice but arguably the ideal one for most of them.
>>58446125Gamefreak’s idiotic balancing attempts
>>58447285Sucks, they didn't even increase her HP, what good is a physical tank with 60 base HP?
>>58447346>what good is a physical tank with 60 base HP?anon Toxapex has base 50. Not ot say that Mega Scolipede will be some amazing tank on the tier of Toxapex given it succeeded because of tons of other factors, but High Defenses with Low HP has always been better than the inverse.
>>58443995Greninja's is way better in motion
>>58446125Doesn't Scolipede have speed boost?
>>58444023Froslass is literally worse than Feraligatr why the fuck do you have it in S tier
>>58447346No mega increases HP
>>58447410It does yeah but who knows what the Mega got, there are no abilities in ZA so we have no idea what the fuck any of them has. We can vaguely guess that Mega Starmie has Pure Power because it recieved an extra 40 BST (Mega Mawile gained an extra 40 base attack to make up for not having Huge Power)
>>58447424bait used to be believable
>>58447367Fair fair.>>58447410Yes, but as a Hidden Ability>>58447429Anon, I'm looking at Bulbapedia right now, regular Scoli and Mega have the same base HP stat.
>>58447481>Anon, I'm looking at Bulbapedia right now, regular Scoli and Mega have the same base HP stat.What exactly do you think "No mega increases HP" means
>>58447530Ah my bad, I read that as you saying it increased.
Personal list. Excadrill and Raichu are two of my favourite pokémon, they feel particularly insulting. Maybe my opinion on some of these will change when I see their animations. I want to like Mega Dragonite.
There's a pretty big drop off from A to B tier.
>>58447697Wrong image
Any list that has Zygarde in bad is deeply unserious
>>58447726it just doesn't look good to me.
Why do you think M-Chesnaught is landing so much better than the other Kalos starter megas? Consistently seems to be liked.
There isn't a single one I would consider a peak design, I will at least say that ones I ranked in A and B are about what I would've wanted or expected for those Pokemon or at the very least is on par or better than fan designs. C Tier are fine although I've seen fan designs I like more, I also take some issue with Greninja and Floette's designs since they feel like they're encroaching on the G-Max design philosophy as opposed to what Megas tend to have (Sableye and Salamence are other Pokemon I think deviate too much).I'm really disappointed by Clefable's mega because it's among my favourites but in comparison to others here it's far from the worst. The other D Tiers are in a similar position, I think the Mega itself is underwhelming but there are worse ones. Everything in F Tier is just shit, they're fucking ugly they ruin the original Pokemon's designs or are fucking stupid in what they decided to do for a Mega, the ones in F- especially annoy me, thanks for giving my favourite starter an absolutely horrendous mega evolution that's somehow got all the terrible elements of Duraludon combined with retarded "what if x" concepts. The Starmie one's trash as well, yeah nice Starman reference, maybe you should've actually put some effort into it though, cause it really looks like they just stretched the original model's legs making the point where they meet way too low for a Starman. Also absolutely no additions to complexify the design something most Megas even in this game do, nah we'll just leave Starmie with the gold around its eye and not add any gold or crystals to the rest of its body or any other new design features. Skarmory and Raichu's are just fucking dumb, they're not as offensive as Feraligatr's but they're completely fucking pointless and just seem like GF picked a random design element of the Pokemon that was never the focus of its design and decided to hyperfixate on it.
>>58447809It's building on an existing design instead of doing something retarded. Armored guy is now more heavily armored and looks cooler
You guys really love Drampa.
>>58448238It's one of the few megas that seems like it actually had some thought put behind it, the design feels like a natural progression of Drampa's own and the white tufts of the original were a major design element so it's at least sensible to further them. I will say I disagree with the dex entry for it thought since it mentions "allowing it to regain its youth", this'd only really fit if Drampa had a pre-evolution. The only thing is I'm surprised they didn't make it Electric-Dragon since they're pushing the storm aspect of the design
Mega Skarmory looks alright shiny but you really shouldn't have to get a shiny just to not make a Pokemon an eyesore
>>58447367>but High Defenses with Low HP has always been better than the inverse.Why?
>>58448938dividing damage is better than having more hp because damage calcs almost always outpace hp. Think about how wailord takes so much damage despite having nearly chansey-tier hp.
Excuse me, objectively correct opinion coming through
>>58449520i disagree with the logic but i understand the logic
