Is it possible to come up with a monster design that isn't based on something? No references and no concepts?
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>>58451471>is it possible to come up with [something] that isn't based on [something]?No? Are you genuinely retarded?
>>58451493Once you realize this reply is actually based on the OP it makes a lot more sense
>>58451471just get a random number generator and give it access to Spore (the game, possibly also the move)
>>58451606Then it's gonna be based on Spore, retard
>>58451609nothing wrong with that
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>>58451471Eevee.
>>58451801Based on multiple mammals, are you retarded?
>>58451490That's based on a dugong
Could you? Yes. Will it look good? No.
>>58451879That's based on the concept of faces and creatures, which makes it a good design
>>58451879>post a design based on how animals sometimes have patterns that resemble faces to trick othersHell even the basic bodyshape and being quadruped is based on something real. You can't create something based on nothing, it's impossible.
>>58451879I like this. Is it some kind of Pokemon Clover reject? It looks like it'd be right at home in it
>>58451879Great, thanks to this fanart Game Freak won't be able to use this design in future games anymore.
>>58451471missingno
>>58451471Behold, a Pokemon I made based on nothing. I call it Egjivej.
>>58452095is that the new porygon mega?
>>58451471not really, but it all depends on where you draw the line on how real originality is as a conceptI think the closest we can really get is pokemon that aren't literally just a cartoon version of something with a clear real life counterpart.for example, there is a huge difference between slowbro and toucannon. Toucanon is functionally just a toucan. What the fuck is slowbro? Homer simpson pink dinosaur? It's definitely based on something or some amalgam of things, but it's not immediately just "thing we already know but turned into a pokemon"
>>58452095Based on colors and shapes and hence not bad
>>58452095gamefreak… hire him
>>58451637The stalked eyes are clearly based on anomalocaridids and other extinct radiodonts, while the pink/purplish color is a subtle reference to Barney the Dinosaur.
>>58452095It’s based on modern art
>>58451471Nigger, the point isn't that mons shouldn't be based on anything. People complain that wild monsters are themed after human-made objects, occupations, or wear human-styled clothing or haircuts. It's specially infuriating when the designs are clear references of real-life people or other media franchises, because it comes off as really lazy.This guy >>58452184 gets it. Good Pokémon designs should be ambiguous monsters, and while Slowbro may take inspiration from real life animals, it's different enough to be its own thing, which is what makes it iconic and great.Look at the leaked concept art of Legends Galar, coincidentally they're showing a new (beta) form of Slowking, and while it's inconclusive that it is sporting a flesh cheff's hat and flesh cloak, you know full well that GameFreak is not above doing something like that. The game is supposed to take place in the Middle Age Galar and there's a wild Raboot wearing a flesh Adidas soccer track jacket. Kinda retarded.
>>58451896>>58452522I know you are a salty cuck trying to repeat for 1414021027th time>being based on something doesn't make it good!But you are only highlighting how since everything is based on something the ones that stand out are the ones whose inspiration is neat instead, factually destroying your cope to hate on designs everyone else likes.
>>58453046>designs everyone else likes.Lmao
>>58451471it's possible to reference something and make it not look like utter shit
>>58453040You know OP is making fun of >but it's good because it's based on le conceptfags, right?
>>58454117And failing because everything is based on something. When someone brings up the inspiration of a design to explain why they like it they aren't saying "it's based on something, that's good", but "what is based on is cool, that's good".It's like if someone were to explain why you they like a chick's looks and talked about her nice face and then you autists said>REEEEEEEEE HAVING A FACE DOESN'T MAKE HER PRETTYNo shit Sherlock, but that specific face does, according to the person you are bothering.
>>58454117No, I didn't. I didn't lurk much until after making that post. I've caught up since.
>>58454161Gayfreaks execution is dogshit tho. They rarely pull off a cool model or concept.
Carl Sagan:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s664NsLeFM
>>58451471No, because originality is a meme. Everything is derived from or inspired by something else. It's not about being original, it's about being fresh and interesting.
>>58454300I'm not here to discuss how good or bad their designs are nowadays, I'm just saying you are a fucking retard if you think joking about concepts has anything to do with the people who enjoy what you don't. When someone likes Mega Nutsack they like the concept, yes, and they like the execution too, reductio ad absurdum like >>58452522 doesn't even make sense, you are just a miserable person who can't even conceptualize why he doesn't like when people feel joy.
>>58451471Yeah, vaguely animal pokemon like Slowpoke or Snorlax have no clear inspiration.
>>58454373>animal pokemon have no clear inspiration
>>58452184Slowbro's inspirations/bases>a hermit crab>a hippo>an otter>shellmon>its own prevo>some sort of yokai, possibly>who knows what else, maybe a random doodle the designer made or found, maybe a child's drawing, maybe some already existing character or style from some old mangaUltimately, the trick to "create something based on nothing" is to create something based on so many things from so many places that it becomes impossible to tell the full list of inspirations
>>58454326>When someone likes Mega Nutsack they like the concept, yes, and they like the execution tooThat is not given no. The concept can be interesting but the execution dogshit.
>>58451986Missingno is based on garbage data
>>58452095Based on OP's prompt
>>58454389Vaguely animalistic pokemon that resemble no one animal? Yes.
>>58451471I spent a very large amount of my time as a child trying to get around this logic puzzle. Ultimately you cannot do it, because the shape of that thing will always already exists somewhere within the world of numbers and probabilities. We get to be smacked with that truth literally countless times across the world nowadays thanks to AI generated art. The closest people get to genuinely being novel? It just becomes a part of reality when they write it into fiction and then eventually maybe someday a part of the literal Hell we already live in like 1984.
>>58452095This looks like Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
>>58454566I love when referencefags have to dig up some obscure extinct animal so they can say it's based on that.
>>58454411Precisely, retard, if you said this all the time your posts would make an ounce of sense at least. You think the execution of the idea is bad, someone think the execution of the idea is good, your sperging about designs having ideas behind them is uncalled for, ultimately these threads just have some people saying>Wow this design is pretty neat, the idea is...And retards like you replying>NOOOOOOO FUCK IDEAS SHUT UP SHUT UPIf someone likes a shit design like Mega Victreebell and for some reason this makes you really mad then you can just reply "the execution is still bad" instead of this >>58452522 retardation
>>58454373Snorlax is a subtle nod to a Game Freak staff member that was constantly eating and dozing off. Furthermore it is based on the concept of hibernation and food coma.
>>58454621If some fag replies with "Did you know chocolate is based on cocoa?" in a thread where people are complaining about the taste of chocolate, surely that fag is directly implying that this fact actually makes the chocolate good. Otherwise why even mention it? Based on the context of the "conversation" (if you can call it that) you can tell that the person who responded with that epic fact felt the need to defend the object in question with some mindblowing factoid.
>>58454666>food analogyAnyway, no, you are mixing things up. If there's a thread about chocolate (everything about it, in general) and someone talks about the process it's made then it makes perfect sense since they can find it interesting mechanically, historically, etc, just like you can see a Mega Victreebel thread and have people enjoy it for its concept. Your sample would be like if the thread was about Mega Victreebel COMPETITIVE usage and then someone talked about the design, that would be completely random and unrelated, but that's not what happens in this board, people said "I like le mon, he based on this and I find it cool" and you lose your shit like an autist.
>>58454566See >>58454396If your animalistic design doesn't resemble one specific animal then congratulations your animalistic design is simply based on SO MANY animals that you can't even pick one.
>>58451490at first i didn't care but once i realized it's based on a seal it really started to grow on me
>>58451471It's virtually impossible to do something like that.
>>58455430I see what you mean. Figuring out Machamp is based on Kinnikuman makes me like it more.
>>58451471Everything in existence is derived and inspired from something, fictional or otherwise.
>>58455561Which makes everything good
>>58452095the colors (especially the middle color) are clearly based on how these colors look when overlapped. try again (it's growing on me though)
>>58451471No because every concept already exists in the world of forms and you're just remembering it from your time spent as part of the divine before your birth.
>>58455721True. Excrement is good because it's based on digested food.
>>58452184This is a great comment. Rare to see one like this on /vp/ nowadays.
