People (especially the Japanese, the main target demographic) absolutely love Mega Starmie. 4chan contrarians BTFO once again.
>>58452888>especially the JapaneseI wouldn't really call them "people".
Goofychads are in control.
>>58452888Mom said it’s my turn to make this thread
>>58452888Starmie chads always ran these boards.
>>58452888People also love Mega Froslass and that thing is fucking awful
>>58452888Japanese brand cares more about their japanese roots/VP(ol)/ tards: DEI DEI! THEY WANT TO MAKE US ALL GAY!
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>>58452888reddit memes =/= popularityremember Lechonk and wooloo? yeah they were totally forgotten after the first week of memes.
This is what organic popularity looks like
>>58452934>Comparing a KANNTOOOOO mon that has a good/marketable Mega to two esrly route shitmons meant to be forgotten aboutRetard.
>>58452952if stamie had a good mega, you zoomers wouldn't spam shit about it but you pretend you like it now because it has retareded looking long legs which is a honypot for your reddit memes and karma farming
>>58452929>Gets bigger>Stops having Heatran's ass on its head>This is bad because anon is a retarded manchild
>>58452965>if starmie had a good megaStarmie has a good mega. To pretend or say otherwise is akin to having ignored Starmie as a whole for the entire decade of its creation.
>>58452934Huge Power 660 BST Mega Starmie will always be relevant in the meta game
>>58452888I never hated it or had "it grow on me"Feraligatr was shit from the beginning and I did not grow on me.
>>58452965>This mon is Reddit because [insert headcanon]Listen man, I'm sorry that Gamefreak decided to make a Mega that resonates with the aspect of Starmie being so determined to speak with humans, it grew its arms and legs as an attempt to talk with them. While also respecting the original design philosophy by making it more alien and people are simply having fun with it over whatever fanfic overly-edgey retarded design slop you had going in your head. But I guess you anti-Starmie fags lost the plot the moment we got his animations and dex entry because you can't just hide behind AI-recreations and ooc leaks.
>>58453076It was stretched out in Blender in less than five minutes
>>58452968>not being tired of long meme designsI think you’re the retarded manchildfor the record Mega Malamar is a garbage design too
>>58452888>>58453076
>>58452994>Pokemon has a reference to other media integrated into its design subtly enough that most people never even make the connection (even people familiar with the medium in question) and is always treated seriously as a creature design in its own right>New form takes this subtle reference, makes it dominate the entire design to the point that it's impossible to miss even if you don't know exactly what's being referenced, and treats the entire thing as a gag while neglecting to add anything else to itThis is the opposite of good design actually, this is pure flanderization; a more nuanced and well thought out design boiled down to a one-note joke. Acting like there's any actual merit to it beyond that just makes you a pretentious dipshit. Just admit that it made you laugh and you like it because of that without trying to justify your reaction with "but it's actually clever!", because it genuinely isn't.
>>58452888I do not care about what japanese fans like
>>58453334Oh but you retards sure love consuming Japanese slop
>Still responding to bait threadsStarmiebros need to stop taking the baits and bump up these retards.And before you say anything, it was already in page 1.
>>58453324I think its clever because it harkens back on Starmie making communication with humans via dex entries and expanding on it by forcibly allowing itself to grow limbs to make that job easier. Its doing so while not making it overly designed for the sake of it. However I do agree that its not deep outside of this idea. But I assume the Ultra Man, Starman reference posting is more often than not irony, rather than it being a legitimate point towards its favor tbf.
>>58453450>I think its clever because it harkens back on Starmie making communication with humans via dex entriesExcept that wasn't even a thing, at least not in any of the English dex entries, until Mega Starmie itself. If anything it outright contradicts the old ones, which imply Starmie tries to actively avoid communicating with humans.>The center section is named the core. People think it is communicating when it glows in 7 colors. (Yellow)>When away from human eyes, its core is said to glow mysteriously in seven colors. This Pokémon may have come from outer space. (Stadium)
>>58452888I wanted to hate it but I just can't, starmie is a qt in all it's forms, tho I'm salty it got turned into a physical attacker
>>58452888stfu starmie
if they love it then how come in fanart it looks nothing like the official model?
>>58455690It's funnier to exaggerate it even further
if they did literally anything more than just stretch out the legs and call it a day i might be okay with it being a starfish alien/ultraman/whatever reference but as it stands this is probably the single laziest thing in the franchise since naming a seal "seel"
Japanese fans have horrible taste, this goes for any fandom
>>58455704>it looks like shit so we have to make it visually appealing so people will actually like itso we agree the design is ass, glad to know
>>58452888I fucking despise it
>>58452888Japan being based as always
>>58455784they just like to have fun unlike this miserable place
>>58453324Most people don't notice it because it's almost entirely absent from the mainline games. Besides it's name, 'Hitodeman' only really behaved like Ultraman in the anime and certain Stadium animations.This Mega essentially is GF finally acknowleding the connection in the mainline games.
The truth about mega starmie
Mega starmie is peak vintage japan pop culture kinoNo wonder mutts and westoids can't understand it
>>58452929I'll be honest, I always thought Froslass was overrated and ugly as shit.
>>58452888It's so goofy you can't even hate it. Like look at it go; it's just a goofy little guy running around kicking things and posing like a person. The moment you start finding it funny the moment it starts to grow on you as a design.
>>58452888Isn’t it also based on Starro the Conqueror from DC ?
>>58452888I heard it got a good ability. If it's meta also then Starmie fans win bigPopular design + meta, that's a hit
>>58458212The regular version looks more like Starro than the mega, if that's true. Starro wasn't humanoid.
>>58457820GAME
>>58456260Total Mega Starmie impregnation
>>58452888>Retards (especially the most consoomer ones, the Japanese, the main target demographic) absolutely love a retarded designshocking
>>58452888I'm willing to bet it was gonna have Ultraman-esque markings at one point before they removed it to avoid any copyright troubles.
>>58459968ZA doesn't have abilities bro
>>58460143I didn't think about that but there is a possibility. Dandadan had to take the Gomora reference out of the kaiju suit in S2. But it's still literally "discount Redking" so I'm not sure what Tsuburaya's issue was with it.
>>58459968There are no abilities but people assumes Pure Power because its stats are similar to Medicham's>Pure Power on a special attacker
>>58460157>switching between throwing beams and straight handsIt'd fit the Ultraman vibe.
>>58460157You're forgetting it's gained some new, actually useful physical moves this game. Namely>Liquidation>Aqua Jet>Zen Headbutt>Waterfall
>>58456250>Most people don't notice it because it's almost entirely absent from the mainline gamesYou're proving the point in that post if you think the reference was never there. It was there from the very beginning, long before the anime or Stadium, but it was only used to inspire parts of the designs of Staryu and Starmie while still letting them be their own thing, not completely dominating the entire design like with Mega Starmie whose entire existence revolves around making the reference as unsubtle as possible.
>>58460281So you're complaining that a Mega Evolution, a transformation that takes an aspect of a Pokemon's design/lore to the extreme, took the Ultraman aspect that was always there and ran with it?
>>58455296I wish it was Lokix in this fanart instead of the Eva units.He was based on that exact Kamen Rider reference while Starmie was referencing Ultraman. Missed opportunity
>>58452888Normies have awful taste. What else is new?
>>58460311You're completely missing the point, again, that something having elements inspired by another thing isn't the same as the reference actually being part of the design, lore or even the concept. For example, Salamence's color scheme and wings are clearly inspired by Devilman, but being a Devilman reference isn't actually an aspect of its design, lore or concept at all, GF just thought they'd be cool features on their flying dragon design, and so Mega Salamence does not literally turn it into a walking Devilman joke and instead focuses on some actual lore behind the line, the dream of flight, and taking that to the extreme (even dropping the Devilman wing shape in the process) although it's still a shitty looking design in its own right..The same thing applies here. Staryu and Starmie have a glowing core like Ultraman and some movements when animated that take some inspiration from rubber suit aliens, but specifically being an Ultraman reference isn't actually an aspect of their design, lore or concept at all, GF just thought those would be cool features on their alien starfish designs. Mega Starmie then proceeds to ignore all of the actual design, lore and concepts (such as the glowing core that's the focal point of both the visual design and practically all of Staryu and Starmie's Pokedex entries, and was ironically the element that took inspiration from Ultraman in the first place) to literally turn it into a walking Ultraman joke.
>>58460751>that something having elements inspired by another thing isn't the same as the reference actually being part of the design, lore or even the concept.The gem is literally an Ultraman color timer. To the point where they told the anime staff to lean into that during fights to make it overt.
>>58461068>The gem is literally an Ultraman color timerIt is not literally an Ultraman color timer. It is inspired by an Ultraman color timer.
gamfreak know their nipz audience, all goofy designs are popular there that why yokai watch was popular therehave you seen the japaneze naional mascot ? all of them are goofy
https://x.com/N4ni_N4ni/status/1979969228695331231Mega Starmie fans may genuinely be retarded.
I’m the original Starmiewalker
>>58455737H-HAYAI
>>58452888>4chan contrarians BTFO once againIf something is made to look intentionally bad/goofy, wouldn't liking it be the contrarian stance?
>>58454222I think they are trying to make mixed attackers a thing, and Starmie with its lacking physical movepool is probably the closest they'll ever get without reworking the EV system entirely. It's simply too efficient to dump EVs into one attacking stat and ignore the other, but they don't get it.
>>58453585>at least not in any of the English dex entriesJapanese canon takes precedence.>If anything it outright contradicts the old ones, which imply Starmie tries to actively avoid communicating with humans.Who cares about early-installment weirdness?
>>58463522>Japanese canon takes precedenceLet's see the directly translated Japanese dex entries then
>>58463596Learn Japanese.
>>58453291No I'm not tired of Pokemon getting taller why the fuck would I be? Mega Frosslass is simple and effective.
>>58463612Mega Skarmory is an actual good design.
>>58463660why does it need the clown feet?
>>58463612one of the designs that didnt even need to grow on me at all, it is just sick as fuck right out of the gate retard
>>58463696>piss colored skarmory with clown feet>sick as fuck
>>58463722>Golden Skarmory with giant talons>Not sick as fuck
>>58452888Insects love the slop Jewtendo feeds them? Next you're gonna tell us the sky is blue
>>58463829>no fun allowed
