>No Megas>No Exclusive Z-Moves>No Exclusive Gigantamax forms>No VariantsExplain.
>>58455461No need to improve perfection
>megashit>z-shit>gigantashit>regionalshithe doesn't need it.
>>58455461It's called they took the L.
>>58455461>>No Megas99% chance of being meme fodder and skibbidi shit >>No Exclusive Z-Moveswho care>>No Exclusive Gigantamax formsthose are locked to Shitlar, >>No Variantsno pokemon that got a variant (as in replacement) is loved or respected by anyone. (this doesn't apply to KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO mons because because they're KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)
>>58455461BDSP was a really obvious time to give the Gen 4 starters something to make them unique, even if it was just signature moves, but they were too obsessed with "muh faithful remake" shit.
>>58455461Gen 4 is shit and Serperior is already perfect.
the gen 4 bias is real
>>58455461Serperior is shit and Gen 4 is already perfect.
>gets a shitty variant while his two contemporaries get Mega'sSo he's just going to be outclassed by them forever and only given a shitty Variant huh? I honestly don't get GF's decisions. Yeah, Mega Feraligatr looks like shit but at least he'll be relevant. And are the Sinnoh trio going to be even usable in Champions with everyone running around with exclusive gimmicks?
>>58455619>Yeah, Mega Feraligatr looks like shit but at least he'll be relevant.It will be outclassed by the original with Sheer Force and Life Orb.
>>58455619Pedo Freak assumed no Typhlosion fan would ever the touch the main series game after the freak leaks and the pokekike bullcrap, so it being outclassed doesn’t matter
I no longer want them to get megas, I don’t trust modern Gamefreak to do them justice. We’d get some dumb shit like>Torterra’s shell becomes a mountain and he has a leaf afro with spikes>Infernape’s head becomes a fireball and its fists become scoops flaming shit out of its ass>Empoleon’s neck grows really long so it looks like a trident
>>58455461>>No Exclusive Z-Movesbut that's a huge win
How do we make them competitively viable without giving them gimmicks?
torterra should get seasonal and/or biome variants
>>58455885Would you rather that than a Mega or Gigantamax for your bro? I feel like any chance for the Sinnoh starters to get anything at this point would be in a remake of PMD Time/Darkness.
>>58455461I can almost guarantee Serperior will get a GMax in Legends Galar and it will be broken as fuck
>>58455969That just leaves the matter of the other two starters. Though, you'd think it be common sense to make Snivy one of the starters...but that kind of fuck's over Turtwig as the other two would have to be Infernape and Piplup. Unless they just give all four of them Gigantamaxes with Turtwig being found in the wild.
Isn't Gigantamax just a 3 turn signature Z-move in practice?
>>58456081Yeah, and once you use up your three moves you return to normal. Some mons just had forms exclusive to them like Kanto(oooooo), the Kalos trio, Snorlax, and Grimsnarl. Given, that Snivy was neglected in ZA it should get something at some point. As should the Sinnoh Trio. I've seen some say have Litten and Popplio as the other two but fuck those two. They already have exclusive Z moves (and Incen still very good in doubles).
>>58455461The original Sinnoh starters should have gotten Hisuian forms in PLA and side quests based around obtaining each one. Instead they were just dumped out in the zones with nothing new. PLZA did a much better job of respecting the OG starters for its region by giving them quests and new mega forms.
>>58455619>Got a variant that is actually useful unlike the other 2 which get humiliation ritual megashit that will never be used because paradoxmons,dracovish and old megas outclass themTyphlosion won
>>58455461They deserve regional variants
>>58455915it's the largest fucking multimedia franchisethey have no excuse to be incapable of both
>>58455619The most likely outcome is that Typhlosion will be the only one of the trio to even have their alternate form in gen 10. It'll have some new gimmick and none of the megas, z-moves or gigantamax forms will make it in. Regional forms are permanent additions however.
>>58455619He's the most popular starter of his gen, and cyndaquil is retardedly popular, so at some point or another, he'll catch it too
>>58456042Z-A proves that they would have no problem using Snivy/Chimchar/Piplup as a trio, two starters from the same gen are apparently allowed. But by the time Legends Galar rolls around, they'll also have the option of using Litten and Popplio (since Hisuian Decidueye proves an exclusive Z-Move doesn't count for anything when it comes to getting new forms) as well as Sprigatito, Fuecoco, and Quaxly. PLA gave us a starter from the immediate previous gen, so odds are we could see a gen 9 starter in a gen 10 legends game
>>58455505type this again without crying
>>58455461Gamefreak hates good ideas, they would rather add more joke designs than listen to the fans.
>>58455461>Contrary Leaf StormYou need more?
>>58455461All 4 are perfect just the way they are.
>>58455461Literally the four most solid starter lines design that aren't Gen 1
>>58457842yeah, more Leaf Storm PP
>>58455678torterra with an afro and a tree as an afro pick would be based
>>58455461Torterra is getting a gigantimax in legends galar in 2028. Locked and loaded
>>58458777>Locked and loadedPokemon Gun confirmed??
>>58458789Yes its going to be called Pokémon legends: gun like we've all been waiting for and gmax torterra is going to have an entire battlefield or artillery and soldiers on its back
>>58458800>ww1 torterrakino
>>58455461>No Megas>No Exclusive Z-Moves>No Exclusive Gigantamax forms>No VariantsAnd that's a good thing.
>>58459074WhyThey're optional you don't have to use them
>>58455461They are based.
>>58457842I would like a ground type equivalent, please
>>58455461Serperior will get something, that I am confident on.Gen 4 starters though, not so sure.And you could loop in Incineroar and Primarina in with this group if you drop the Z-Moves part, since Z-Moves are not FORMS specifically.
Sinnoh Starters were robbed on their own turf...
>>58459399Are the Gen 4 starters not popular or something? I could have sworn at least Piplup was. Feels like the Sinnoh starters not getting anything is an oversight, or they are somehow, in GF's eyes, just in an awkward spot to give a gimmick to because they are in Gen 4 and they have to worry about the other remaining starters.
>>58459888look at the shitty forms they gave dialga and palkia while ignoring ever other pokemon from gen 4 lol.
>>58460158I think they’re just in an awkward spot>BDSP didn’t have a gimmick>Sinnohmons didn’t get anything in PLA for lore consistency>SV didn’t have a (unique form) gimmick>Kalos starters are more relevant for Megas in ZAI’m kinda surprised they didn’t get anything in Mega Dimension, but maybe they’re in line for a GMax in Legends Galar or for whatever the Gen 10 gimmick will be
>>58455461They almost got signature moves in PLA except not with Headlong Rush, Raging Fury and Wave Crash. Serperior though nothing, but in due time it will come. Honestly, I'm not sold on the Gigantamax route for a potential Galar Legends game. Most Gigantamax forms and Dynamax forms already does everything and more you could ask for, so any other special form would be just almost redundant at this point.
>>58455505sinnohfag coping so hard
