Blue Edition>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcglThe game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guideThere's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.>Where to find meta decks?For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decksFor online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCGFor japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417Previous thread: >>58398328Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
Someone last thread said Dangerous Laser and Amulet of Hope are going to be sought after post-rotation. Why? Dangerous Laser at least seems kinda mid. Am I missing something?
>>58464335>make gardevoir deck and and get mat>go to game night which is supposed to actually be Master's bracket >only adults with kids in tow.>Don't unpack my shit and just go look at magic singles.
Predict the Mega Zygarde card
>>58465587>Discard 3 energy cards from this pokemon>Pick one of your opponents pokemon, it is knocked out
>another dead genny because of no card OPbrain dead retards, lmao
>>58465315It's alright anon, they were all gholdengo players anyway.
>>58465642This will need a special summon like Palafin's abllity
>>58465587Instant kill that can't be affected by other game mechanics
how do I become the most annoying man alive with this card?
what is the value of fan rotom? seems dead if you don't draw it in your opening hand
>>58466772Do you actually play? The ability can be used regardless of it being in the active pokemon slot or not, so it not being in the opening hand isn't that bothersome to overcome.
>>58466863the ability says first turn
>>58466878Yeah? And?
>>58466920so I need to get it in my opener
>>58466772>Buddy Buddy Poffin>Nest ball>Ultra Ball>Precious Trolley>Lillie>Professor's Research>Iono>Carmine>Brock's Scouting>Ditto>other niche techsThe only way you're really missing Rotom in most decks is if your hand is already bricked to begin with or it's prized.
>>58466772works on my machine around 70% of the time
>>58466459It probably will, zygarde has to drop to 50% to get the complete form. THEN it can mega evolve. It can't straight up mega
>>58466940So play level ball and nest ball.
I want to make a Sunny Castform meme deck work in Standard so bad, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
>>58467118>StandardAre you sure? There's only one Castform in standard and I have no idea how you'd build a deck around it. Are you talking about the Chilling Reign Castforms?
>>58466661Magical flick mismagius + timepiece and gravity gemstone + spidops for big retreat or something maybe
>>58467141>There's only one Castform in standardThat's why I don't think I can make it work. He's my favorite 'mon but I don't know what the combo would be. Singe is available on tons of other 'mons and the whole transfer energy effect isn't all that enticing when there's not a straightforward way to get the energy on him anyway. Maybe something with get Sunny in discard and use Ditto to dupe the attack but idk
>>58467203fuck ditto isn't even legal in standard
Can you shortcut when playing a searcher back to back or do you have to search, shuffle, and then search again?
>>58467294Nobody cares so long as you don't search and then choose to draw.
>>58466661>>58467189Annoyingly, Munki might be a decent single-prize attacker. Baby Fez would be funny too with its ability, just a shame its attack is dog.
>>58467294>>58467302If you're playing someone you don't know it might be best to announce that you're going to search again and/or use a visual cue (I turn my deck sideways until I need to shuffle to draw).
>>58467302>>58467316thanks I was just wondering if the there was official tournament policy because I noticed you often end up searching two to three times in a row and you can't exactly counter anything
>>58466772on top of what other anons said fan rotom is great at killing dreepys ,ralts, or charmanders. only beaten by the recently released solrock
I've been getting into the TCG with my brother recently, and I tried making this deck because it seemed like a cool gimmick to play around (Discarding and retrieving water energies for high damaging and using air balloon to switch between Kyogre and Blastoise with Frigibax enabling me to constantly put water energies onto them)Any ideas for improvement, or an alternative to a stage 2 to get my machine up and running is very welcome
>>58468711isnt surfing beach better than beach court air balloon? tm evo and lillie would be usefull too
>>58468711shits all fucked up brother I don't know where to start
>>58468711I would take out the blastoise line and add in 4 chien pao ex.
>>58469726Didn't even know that card existed. Fits MUCH better. >>58469931Yeah that works out better and goes well with surfing beach. Should clear out space from a rare candy and air balloon and maybe also the buddy-buddy poffinsThanks anons
I wanna make this meme deck
>>58465157Were they memeing or is this real?
>>58472165I don't see this pair winning a match anytime soon.
>>58473098ehhh I'd build it around Froslass, Munkidori, Latias ex. Froslass and Munkidori to cheese extra damage,Ninjask hits for 90 and swap out to Shedinja for safety, Latias Ex to facilitate an easy switch back to Ninjask or just have Shedinja attack on its own based on if Munki has transferred enough damage. You're not gonna win a big tournament with it but you could get some games at your LGS.
This twitch drop has a redemption limit of 400. But are you really going to make a new twitch account, a new pokemon account, and wait 30 minutes just to farm them just so that you don't have to wait 6 months to craft the full arts you want?
>>58473891whats in those?
>>58473323>create new deck>look inside>Froslass Munkidori
>>58473958oh its just a regular crate like on the battlepass
>>58474093I know. How mundane and rubbish it is to get a free pack with only four ultra rares. That is too pedestrian for my sophisticated collector tastes.
>>58474117too bad its none of the ones i need/want to use i still have to wait 6 fucking months to get the ones i want i guess..
>>58474537>CandiceWhose Candis? Like the trainer from gen 4? Does she have cards this set?
>>58474604Here comes the aeroplane, aaaahhhhh open wide!
>>58469635gogoat my beloved
I wanna see if I can make a deck out of this. It looks funny.
Which makes the game look worse>opponent putting risky ruins, dark energy and munkidori into a mono-steel deck because munkidori is THAT brokenor>I only won because I used boss' orders into boss' orders into boss' orders and ignored his actual active every timeno one can say this game is in a good shape rn
i said i'd grind out to master but i can't do it the game just isn't fun right nowi don't know if myself playing ceruledge played a part but i'm not sure if spamming gardevoir would have improved my experiencegoing to call it until next set
>>58476510Reprinting boss really was a mistake. It was going to be so fun without it and countercatcher around
why am i losing to this retarded faggot abomasnow deck multiple times. they consistently get their shit up on turn 3 and hit for 500 every turn with 0 issues. i need retards like this to be punished for using such faggot decks and getting rewarded with pure lucky bullshit cheat wins. fuck you
>>58477282counter catcher is just PCL's fundamental misunderstanding of how comeback mechanics should work in a game like thiscomeback cards and mechanics should only function in terms of getting you back into the game and letting you play out your deck's strategythey shouldn't be a win condition by themselvesit's not really a "comeback" card when you're on two prizes and they're on one and now they have a 100% reliable way to boss' orders up an EX that doesn't even take up their supporter use for the turn
>retard gusts my m absol into his hero's cape m kanga relying on 2 heads to ohko, while I have 2 munkis on bench with energy AND 1 energy on absol>fails to ohko>of course all I need to do is draw one single energy onto absol to ko. 2 vessels in deck and lillies determination in hand should make this near guaranteed. certainly, his MASSIVE obvious misplay will be punished and I will win.>
>>58474052Every deck is munkidori, to the point that attacking has become a liability, it is absurd really.>>58475581With some modifiers you can reach numbers to ohko most stage 1s ex, Also there's some good energy manipulation cards in standard.>>58477427Especially with the cursed blast ability in the format, heck even knocking a budew turn 1 can lock you out of the game.
>>58477427>reddit
>>58477427counter catcher should've been a 2 prize deficit. having to knock out their budew only for them to counter catch + supporter of their own is not a "come back". especially when they can force you to take prizes with dusclops too
>>58477695But this general loves redditplease understand!
>>58477695Redditors breathe air, why haven't you suffocated yourself yet?>>58478216Even now that wouldn't be great because 3-prizers exist.Of course, no one asked them to print 3-prizes again but perhaps this time it won't just be massive statchecks that have to be addressed immediately, right?
>>58477282I'm going to go against the grain and disagree. I think Boss's Orders is fine. Maybe it's because I started playing during the B/W era and remember pre-errata catchers (and more veteran players than me playing with Gust of Wind) but it gives atleast a little bit of consequence to putting down strong support pokemon like Munkidori, Shaymin ex, Fezandipiti ex, Squakabilly ex and many others which are or were auto includes in most decks, it was satisfying to snipe a lot of Shaymin for the game back in the day that's for sure. Maybe you could make a case for it as an ace spec since it's usually at the end for the game anyway but I was surprised that they brought back ace specs to begin with (I sort of doubt they'll print a whole lot more and stick with it) and there's already Prime Catcher I guess. But if you think Boss's Orders is actually way too strong now then just wait until they inevitably reprint VS Seeker.>>58477673The meme oneshot potential was the main draw when I saw the card. Almost makes me which there was more special energy played these days so removal would be more effective. Does any deck even play special energy these days?
>>58478710i think every munkidori abuser would be very happy to see you using boss' orders on munkidori unless you just so happen to have 1 prize left and can't hit for more than 110
>>58478733All depends on the boardstate I suppose. But those support pokemon, especially the draw ones which are often ex pokemon, are much easier to oneshot than some of the beefier attackers these days, especially the megas which they'll keep printing. A few of the upcoming ones are bound to be good and I doubt they're going to leave Mega Gardevoir hanging once Gardevoir ex rotates since there is some clear favoritism there.I'm just happy I don't have to see ADP again since that's what made me quit for a long time.
>>58478710> but it gives atleast a little bit of consequence to putting down strong support pokemon like Munkidori, Shaymin ex, Fezandipiti ex, Squakabilly ex and many others which are or were auto includes in most decksthey printed this tho, those supportmons like fez/squawk were still at risk. it's not like it would be impossible to gust. it's just a more balanced gust because it's conditional for only basics. not just a one gust grabs everything we have nowwe've had boss in the meta for YEARS now. even before when lysandre was a staple at least it got replaced with guzma so that's something different. boss is just too generic and boring at this point, people are tired of it being an evergreen staple
>>58478962ADP was basically their admission that they just didn't give a shit anymore and just printed whatever would sell the most packs at the cost of the actual game being basically unplayable
>>58478966what confuses me a lot is how much basic-exclusive support they keep printing and barely any basic-exclusive punishfighting fury belt during breakpoint was a hilarious clanger of an apparent preventative measure to do-nothing stage 3s
>>58478966They could be priming for Lisia to be the replacement for a hot minute like the time when Guzma was the supporter catcher of its day if they don't reprint Boss's Orders for the next rotation. But there's often a lot of stage 2 supporter pokemon around in various rotations as well like every type variation of Raindance Blastoise , the ones that let you use energy from the discard like Gardevoir EX which was far from the first and the ones that make energy count for double like Meganium in the Mega Evolution set among others, there should be a way to deal with them as well and that's where Boss's Orders and its equvialent of the time comes in.
>>58479148>if they don't reprint Boss's Orders for the next rotationit was already reprinted tho, that's what people are complaining about. it's legal for another 3 years
the only reason 4 boss' orders isn't an auto-include in each deck is because games don't last 4 turns to use them all
>>58479178most decks are abusing retreat locking right now so games are definitely lasting more than 4 turns unless it's like a dengo mirror.
>>58479178More to do with the fact that big basics ex pokemon or whatever varitation of two or more prize pokemon has been the standard for what? 13 years or so?
>>58479209they fucked up the game with mewtwo ex and doubled down on it ever since
>>58479216S/V helped fix it a bit, stage 1/2s were good for once but now megas ruined it again.. they're gonna have to print a ton more evolution support if they dont want the meta to devolve into kanga/absol and eventually zygarde/rayquaza/groudon/kyogre slop
>>58479216Mewtwo ex with DCE and pokemon catcher. Those were the days. Hated that. But I still mostly have a burning hatred for hypnotoxic laser and I hope whoever designed that card got lynched with rusty barbwire.
>>58479240nothing represents the pokemon trading card game better than black and white did>evolution as a concept was largely worthless because they fucked the scaling on every stage 1 and stage 2 and relegated them to support rolesgood job
>>58479231There's that ace spec stadium, as well as that regular stadium that lets you evolve grass types (didn't a similar stadium get banned way back because of some Shiftry donk nonsense or something along with a Wally card that let you evolve quicker? I was surprised to see it back) but I think at the very least it was the right idea to make evolved forms of ex pokemon have to evolve instead of just being able to slap down a Gardevoir ex or whatever. They did make megas more strong though since you needed a tool to evolve them or else you lost your turn, I don't remember the original megas really making a big splash so that's probably why they bumped them up. The original fairy Mega Gardevoir was my favorite deck back in the day though, now those were good times...
will TPCi ever support expanded again?
>>58480433hopefully not
>>58480433hopefully
>>58480433maybe
>>58480433Only if they embrace the inherently cancerous idea of playing with all the broken cards of the past and just unban everything.
>>58480433Considering they've been increasing prize pools it feels like they're trying to capture some players from Magic so I could see them bringing back Expanded as an answer to Modern.
>>58480433I just wanna use Sky Field again so badly. Is that so much to ask?
took you long enough
Day 2 of trying to build a deck around Castform Sunny Form.
I played two separate games against today irl where my opponent would have won if they had an energy or boss in hand off an iono and they both whiffed lol
>>58466944also the squawk>>58467294yes please do especially if you're playing against experienced people, it speeds the game up and you both have more time to play. If a noob then do it anyways but let them know>>58467327as per the rules you do technically have to shuffle every time, but we're human and can bend the rules for that. No judge ever will penalize you for doing this unless you do it to a noob to try to cheat >>58481137ethan's and armarouge for fire acceleration?
bro i just got cooked by a team rocket tyranitar deck, i bricked and just could not draw a stadium card to get rid of their ace spec bullshit
cool blog!
who tf plays Team Rocket at this time of year
I like playing the Pokémon tcg
I finally have the rough draft of the Tinkaton monstrosity. To maximize memes I discovered Handheld Fan and Team Star Grunt to add some more guaranteed energy disruption, the enhanced hammer I guess I'll see if I ever face any special energy. Iron Defenders I'm not so sure about either and they might get replaced with super rods or something even if I don't think Tinkaton has a whole lot of comeback potential once they're fully active.For the ace spec card I figured maybe Neutralization Zone might give the deck a fighting chance to buy some turns too... On the other hand with Maximum Belt Tinkaton can oneshot a Mega Absol ex if it doesn't have any energy. I'll have to think about it some more.
>>58481822Not like we could play team flare.
>>58481905Absolutely drop the Iron Defenders. They aren't doing enough work to be taking up 4 slots.I'd recommend adding this >>58477673 Elgyem and maybe a Luminous energy and a Colress or two to help you get your stadium out. Alternatively you could swap two metal energy for psychic and run Crispin as you don't have any energy search atm.Maybe one more Tinkatuff and one or two fewer candies too.
>>58481905I think with decks playing multiple stadiums it would be harder for your zone to stick, especially since your list doesn't use any other stadiums to force them to keep using theirs. It's probably only really sticking against ceruledge but iirc any other popular deck with an ex attacker uses multiple stadiums. You can also see if you can fit revaroom in here to give you some on board draw other than fez. It'll synergize with genesect too
I love how much skill expression is in Mega Abomasnow ex
>>58480433probably not since expanded is just cosplaying team rocket base more often than it isn't
This guy doesn't look very whimsy to me.
i played expanded with a friend earlier todaywhen he won the opening coinflip we agreed that he won two games to onewe used the saved money to buy donuts
>>58486322kekas much as people beg and cry for muh expanded support, they really wont play it once we get it. it's pure regidrago garbage now
>>58486399i have no sympathy for anyone who has a bad experience playing expandedno one forced you to grab the kitchen knife and start lopping your fingers off one by one
I just wish Pokemon had more viable formats than Standard. We really only have Expanded (lol) and GLC (which I haven't played). Magic has a dozen different formats, some are garbage and some are pretty nice additions to the game. I don't see why something like Pauper couldn't happen in Pokemon so we could still have a larger pool of cards but nothing super broken.
>>58487549ptci refuses to reprint old sets so they wont ever support stuff like expanded irl again. stuff like magic/yugioh get reprints all the time for old sets when they decide to rotate them back in. since we dont get reprints people can't obtain those cards to play a new format like thatpokemons turned more into a collector hobby than a card game so there's even less chance of them reprinting old sets because MY INVESTMENTS you can't reprint stuff!as for online, have you seen the devs for live? they can barely make standard functioning. like right now mega gengars ability stacks when it shouldn't. with 3 in play your opponent can't take any prize cards lol
>>58487549pauper just wouldn't work because people would just gravitate to low rarity big basics since you'd need holo rares to be allowed or most evolutions simply couldn't existthe issue is how flawed pokemon tcg is on a base level and needs a series of rebalances to try and function on alternative formatsa long time ago there was this 100-card singleton format where oversized basics were banned and it had so many rules changes, erratas and bans that it was an entirely different gameeventually it just fell apart as it could no longer exist under the base game's rampant powercreep
>>58487601Magic does not often do reprints. Modern is an incredibly expensive format because of this, but is popular nonetheless.>>58487606I don't think you could just 1-to-1 Pauper with how Magic does it, but conceptually it could work. In Magic the rule is any card that was printed as a common is legal, in Pokemon I'd just invert it and say any card that was printed as anything other than common (or maybe uncommon too) is banned. That way you account for high power cards that were printed with multiple arts.
>>58482613>>58483192I'm not quite sold on Elgyem since if I'm not attacking I think it drastically reduces any chance of winning. Running more stadiums is a good idea though and so is the Colress. But with Colress and Arven I kind of find myself pining wistfully for the elegant simplicity of Skyla... Full Metal Lab does what Iron Defenders does anyway. It was kind of tough to find a stadium that would give the deck some sort of tactical advantage while not giving the opponent one but countering stadiums is important. (Jamming Tower if I cut the tools maybe? That would weaken Arven though) Not a whole lot of purely metal support in the format though it seems.-4 Iron Defender-1 Rare Candy (Not sure about this one but I'll see)+2 Super Rod+1 Colress' Ingenuity+1 Full Metal Lab+1 Tinkatuff (Combined with the super rod I could activate its ability more often maybe)>>58483994Did you know Mega Abomasnow is weak to metal? I just thought that was interesting. It does remind me of the quad Heatmor deck I used to play though.
How do I play Mega Mawile?
>>58468711If you're adamant about not playing the classic Chien Pao ex and want to show some more flair then you could cut Blastoise and add Mysterious Comet Starmie (or even Calamitous Snowy Mountain but that might be giving yourself enough rope to hang yourself with Munki around) and use Tera Gyarados ex for funny meme oneshots. 1 or 2 damage counters plus 360 damage is more than enough to knock out anything in the format, even the megas unless they have some sort of tool.
Just run a copy as a finisher in Archaludon, apart from that I don't think it will see a lot of use
can they reprint chaotic swell please
What the I love flipping now
>>58488284>RNG discards vs coin flipis this pokemon pocket?
>>58488357I made this Absol Box deck for the meme but I'm really having tons of fun with the Kanga. Also I can't believe they added Mega's to pocket when the prize win is 3 knockouts.
>>58488855Speaking of Absol box it kinda sucks. I've just been running a Bouffulant mist enery hero cape deck with Kanga for fun
>>58490197I was going to ask if Tauros ever had a good card besides the anti-ex Gold Breaker one but then I remembered that was a Bouffalant Card
>>58490903Maybe if you purposefully misinterpreted the card text during a mirror match in gen 1, but otherwise no.
now that I think about it dawn is an incredibly powerful card. being able to do something like grab fez ex, drakloak, and dusknoir all at once can lead to crazy turns.
What are some good alternatives to Arven 2x, Nest Ball x3, and one Iono?G is exiting rotation next year and I want to have those cards at the ready since I ordered the Mega Gengar EX battle deck. Should be here in the mail just in time for my local’s Halloween event *if* I’m really lucky.
>>58493558It's hard to say since we still haven't seen all the cards that are going to be legal after rotation hits. I think right now the closest arven alternative we have is TR petrel for secret box. nest ball is brock's scouting, precious trolley, or fighting gong if it's a fighting deck. There's no iono equivalent yet.
>>58488032With Archaludon
>>58493558I think it's likely that they'll reprint Judge unless they already have and I didn't notice, guess that can be Iono for a minute while they try to think of the next N (Lucian would be a good meme though). Maybe the brief lack of Nest Ball will make Precious Trolly used more? Though Secret Box is like a souped up Arven.
>>58493558Iono is mostly replacable with lillie now. The 4x iono lists have swapped to primarily lillieAs for the rest we really dunno. It's still a while off so there's time for them to print more cards to replace whatevers missing. Petrel can cope replace arven but with arven and town store leaving, as well as TMs, tools look to be very difficult to search for now and not really worth includingI expect another supportmon like squawk/lumineon to get reprinted, if it is another supporter search one like lumineon then you can run brock who can fetch 2x basics or cyrano for big basic decks
>>58493970>I think it's likely that they'll reprint Judge unless they already have and I didn't noticeThey reprinted it but didn't update the mark, so it'd be safe to say it's not getting updated. Same happened with research
>>58493987Good fucking riddance to Bravery Charm... Not a fan of basic Megas having that. Energy Search and Exp. Share are virtually guaranteed reprints, they're like babby's first item and tool. Super Rod, Pokemon Catcher and S. Energy Retrieval too is very likely to have a reprint too I'd think. I'll miss Pal Pad though if it's gone... What they should do is just reprint Skyla already.>>58493995The Judge will be back again someday. Probably a female one next time with a waifu full art for good measure.
>>58494209>S. Energy RetrievalThis one isn't as evergreen as you think. It was only in the game during gen5 era and only just returned now. Probably to relive the rain dance days with bax. Emboar exists now but between recycler and fire breather it can recover energy >What they should do is just reprint Skyla already.That's that petrol is. A literal 1:1 reprint Shame it's not a cute character like skyla, hopefully whoever replaces arven is one.
>>58494209>What they should do is just reprint Skyla already.That's just Petrel
>>58494230>>58494238Damn... Atleast I can always look back at better days... I suppose Petrel might be the sort-of Arven replacement then.
My dream is one day we get an item + evolution search supporterGive me irida for all types. #Fix stage 2s
>>58479216BW killed the game
>>58464335I'm working on building an Aggron deck. Are there any cards that allow me to directly damage my own benched Pokemon or spread damage from my active Pokemon to my benched Pokemon?
>>58495438I think frosslass , TR bomb, or toxtricity are probably the easiest ways to damage your own mons benched or active
>Have 3/4 poffin>There's one at master ball ranki dont wanna grind it.. ive already finished the battlepass..surely we get it in a future battlepass for free..
>>58493987I didn't realize a lot of the ancient/future stuff was rotating. It feels like we haven't had it that long compared to the misery of playing in Mew Vmax and Lost Zone format. I'm gonna miss a lot of these cards.
>>58495753Half of it's still around like raging bolt/iron crown because they're in temporal forces. but no sada/earthen vessel/iron hands/techno radar is just gonna kill both archetypes anyway, their core support is gone. It's weird they split their regulation marks like that, iirc rapid/single/fusion strike didn't do that? They were all within the same regulation printingAnyway there's not much point coping to make raging bolt work with crispin or bellibolt when you can just use mega zard X at much easier effort.
Whenever the game comes back from maintenance, here's a code for some nice ghost sleevesHAPPYPOKEWEEN25
>>58464335Any tips on how to play Garde ex? I've been rocking it for 2 weeks but I break way too fucking much despite playing the 2nd place list from the latest regional.
>>58496058hell yeah
>>58496609if you have the general idea down of set up gardevoir, discard psychics, and use munkis to spread damage then next is learning the optimal attackers to use for each mu. watch some yt videos or practice against a specific deck you're having trouble.with to learn what attackers you need to be using for each mu. majority of the time you're using scream tail in the milwaukee runner up list since it's a single prizer.
N's Zoro is fun
If the cunt plays it, I will never play it
Tera box is fun
>>58499178That's retarded, play the deck and show you're better at playing it than the hole.
I miss Zorobox and more importantly Hisuian Zoroark. Hisuian Zoroark was such a fun deck when you could just start swinging for 250 on turn 2 after going through 70% of your deck. I really hope they bring it back in some form down the road.
fucking retarded judges, lmao!
about damn time, judge...
Is there a Livestream happening?
>>58499429yeah, but it's frenchhttps://www.youtube.com/live/OQPhLB0Vafg
>>58500907>clay pumpkaboo>no clay gourgeistsadge
>>58498405Thanks mate! I did just this and ended going 2-2 at locals. One of my losses was just Dragupult ex setting up immediately and the other one was to Joltik Box because I fucked up and let Iron Hands kill my Enamorus by mistake. Really digging the deck a bit more, now. I think something that really helped me get a better feel for the deck was playing 4 Lillies. That card is nuts.
only top 4 at a cup todaykill me
>>58503472nice, I'm glad I was able to help and that you like the deck.>One of my losses was just Dragupult ex setting up immediately yeah the gardy/pult match is famously gardy favored but with pult playing neo upper, lillie, and candy again they can set up really fast and completely destroy your board before you have a chance to play the game. theres a lot of depth in that match up and it might take a while before you can consistently beat decent pult players.>>58503855it happens, there will be more cups to win in the future. what did you play?
What's the best way to buy new cards on release at MSRP?
>>58504220Get lucky with the pokecenter queue on release day.
>>58504220singles on tcgp
Any not unplayable rogue options that get improved with the set coming up? I'm really struggling to find something fun to play in this meta.
Great tusk mill this format feels great with the stones and duck. I think the only decks I'm unsure on are mega absol and grimmsnarl but I think you can still beat them with some techs. Gardevoir is miserable and requires you have insane luck in order to win. Everything else is easy especially with legacy energy or neutralization zone. I've been able to scam out so many wins and packs recently with it.>>58505737Dawn and the battle colosseum are going to help rogue decks a bit. In Japan zam is running 4 dawns and every other rogue is playinf the stadium to prevent 6 prize turns.
>>58505737Alakazam likes wonder patch and the new anti dragapult stadium. Your abras aren't just bench foodSame with typlosion and pretty much every evolution deck that suffered to dragapult before.
>>58505824>>58505826Hydreigon probably benefits a lot from both of those as well, but unless it ends up being really bad I'll probably just play Sharpedo instead since it looks faster to set up and is more topical, although I haven't tried the Noctowl Hydreigon deck yet and it might feel better to use.
>>58505896Yeah dawn is broken in noctowl engine decks from what I've tested so far. I would do more but I think it's getting banned in ranked. I saw a hydreigon noctowl build showing up in online tourneys where you were able to get t2 obsidian out consistently and wanted to to build it myself. Bolt isn't really showing up often anymore which makes hydreigon appealing as well.
>decide to give the Hydreigon Noctowl build a try>2 people in a row running enhanced hammer and using it immediately after i attach neo upperThis is not real
>>58506254>Queue into gholdengo all day>Swap to ceruledge>Queue into gardevoirsCall me schizo but I know the matchmaking forces optimal/unoptimal match ups to try force a 50% winrate. There's no other way to explain stuff like that or your enhanced hammers
gardy got too cocky again. none of the builds are making it to the finals of lille. top 4 is 2 pults against zoroark and tera box
>>58506254I just put Enhanced Hammer in all my decks out of habit from the DCE days, though the only time I've seen any special energy played recently was a game I had today against a Team Rocket deck where I completely bricked and never drew a supporter.
stay cursed, cunt...
get fucked gardyshitters
GardeCHADS.... I thought megaevolution was gonna make OVR QVEEN stronger not our enemies.....Lillie why have you betrayed us????
