In Pokemon Champions you can use Dynamax, Mega Evolution, Z-Moves and Terastallization. But you can only use 1 of the 4 and only once per match. Which of the 4 will everyone be using?
>>58465038Lol even the stadium looks gay as fuck compared to pokemon stadium 1 and 2
>>58465038Twinkle Tackle is all you need
>>58465038>crossworlds comes out>everyone uses extreme gear because they finally give people what the want>champions comes out>everyone uses mega evolution because they finally gave people what they want>sometimes z-conversion porygon-z>sometimes eeveeium-z for the animation and baton pass>dynagigatamax always loses>tera sees contrarian usage>mega starfish ruins early rank because referenceYeah, I'm thinking National Dex for me.
If you want to be sweaty, there's basically no reason not to Dynamax. If I Dynamax, what's realistically going to stop me except another Dynamax?
>>58465038I'll use Mega even if it ends up not being optimal because it's my favorite. I'm a shitter anyway so even if I make a super meta team I'll still get my shit kicked in regardless.
>>58465160This and it's not even close. You are doubling your hp, all your moves become z moves and they raise a corresponding stat
>>58465183funny thing is doubling hp alone that can be used on any mon alone puts dynamax above the other three.Max Moves are a bonus. Chances are they'll buff/nerf to keep balance.
What fucking reason is there to use Z-moves? Most of the time it was just to power-up a coverage move and Tera just does that better.Even niche set-ups like Z-conversion are probably worse than Dynamax.
>>58465038They really need to cut Dynamax and leave just Gigantamax.That would solve its brokenness since only a dozen Pokémon could use it (and no pseudo or legendaries/mythical besides Melmetal)
This game looks like pure shit and I know people say that for every poke game but this literally just looks like 3DS games did online with less pokemon than those games
>>58465065>animations are the same bland shit we've seen for over a decade>ugly stadiums>ugly and clunky ui>on mobileHow did things get worse than PBR?
>>58465238It just looks like BDSP but the UI makes it even worse
>>58465160Something bulky enough to stall out your dynamax for three turns and switch in a mega. A large hp pool is not enough to offset a properly set up sweeper and I'm sure nobody wants to see the return of Zacian.
>>58465038Gmax because it's retarded strong and removes scarflocke.But more importantly, RIP Showdown.
>>58465038Is there even gonna be a Nat Dex? Doesn't seem like it.
>>58465101>>mega starfish ruins early rank because referencekek
>>58465038>also releasing on mobile How pay to win is this going to be?
>>58465323Yes
>>58465259No need with huge power behemoth blade Smeargle
>>58465038good, otherwise Rayquaza will be as OP as he is in SuMo+Ultra.
>>58465293I don't think so.The wording on the website is vague, but it makes it sound like not every Pokemon is going to be usable at once, more like it'll go through different seasons like VGC.Doesn't even seem like every gimmick will be available at launch, seems like it'll only have megas at first, though that could just be coy wording since it's the gimmick being marketed right now.
>>58465323It's pay to win in the sense that if you don't play enough games to fill up your Home, you're going to be at a massive disadvantage in terms of roster.Otherwise, they explicitly say the ingame currency can't be bought, so that's something.
>>58465293....Yes and no; Yes as they future proofing this for new titles (like WiWa and others), but no as each season have a restriction of which pokemon can be used.
>>58465038chatgpt says these are the power rankings1 Dynamax / GigantamaxPower Ranking: Most powerful in raw battle strengthPros:HP doubling massive survivabilityMax Moves / G-Max Moves high damage + secondary effects (weather, terrain, buffs/debuffs)Universal access many Pokémon can DynamaxHuge impact on team momentumCons:Temporary lasts only 3 turnsCan be countered by opponent’s DynamaxLess strategic subtlety; brute-force mechanic2 TerastallizationPower Ranking: Highly versatile and strategicPros:Tera Type change surprise factor; opponent doesn’t know your Tera TypeDual STAB potential keeps original STAB while adding new Tera Type STABUniversal any Pokémon can TerastallizeNo item needed frees item slot for other benefitsFlexible timing use whenever it suits youCons:No direct stat boost only a type-based boostEffectiveness depends on prediction and matchup knowledge3 Mega EvolutionPower Ranking: Strong, but species-limitedPros:Huge stat boosts can change the outcome of battlesAbility / type change possible adds tactical advantageVisual impact gives “signature” feelPermanent until fainting reliableCons:Species-specific only certain Pokémon can Mega EvolveItem required locks Mega Stone slotPredictable opponents know what Mega forms exist4 Z-MovesPower Ranking: One-time burst; situationalPros:Extremely powerful single move can KO threats instantlyCan surprise opponents if timed wellWorks on many Pokémon holding the correct Z-CrystalCons:One use per battle short-lived impactNo stats, type, or ability changes doesn’t alter long-term strategyLess versatile compared to other mechanics
>>58465344>>58465368That kinda sucks. I guess Showdown will still be the best battle simulator.
>>58465385granted, this is an extension to current and future titles. Showdown is more or less anything fucking goes at this point.
They should allow custom rulesetsSM let you use Z Move and Mega on the same team
>>58465385>He thinks Showdown isn't getting a fuck off DMCA around Champion's releaseAAAHAHAHA, what's next, game freak and pokémon are around for your best interest?
>>58465426You vil eat ze 10mn limit time.You vil have ze animations always enabled.You zil pay up or farm gems for 6 months to build a team.You zil pay switch online and bank to import your favorites.
>>58465038Mega Salamence specifically
>>58465038They need to reduce Dynamax to 2 turns. And Z-Moves should be allowed along with whatever else you pick since its so weak. Then thats a real decision.
>>58465038Megas.
>>58465221I feel like the benefit of Z-Moves would be that its essentially similar to a nuke button with specific benefits. It would essentially be the middle ground between Dynamax with D-Moves and normal set up moves. You use the nuke for one turn more for set up and can still switch in and out the pokemon with specific strategies with the lack of items being there.
>>58465446It's open source
>>58465038All of them. If you can keep them all in your back pocket, even better.
>>58465038>have to choose between Z-moves and megasWhy? You could have both in SM. Z-moves aren’t even going to be worth it compared to the other gimmicks, so they shouldn’t be exclusive.
z celebrate umbreon my beloved
Will these bros be OK with no gimmicks?
>>58465038Teras because I like the mindgames of shifting types to cover for a weakness
>>58465544Empoleon used to be such a goat.
>>58465038Everyone is going to use dynamax. That shit will be the only good one of the four.
>>58465377>ChatGPT says-Yeah well Wigglytuff says you're a retard.
>>58465252>How did things get worse than PBR?Genius sonority imploded in on itself and the only developers left working on pokemon are mobile shovelware devs like DeNa/niantic and gamefreak
>>58465252False, dumb retard. The animations ARE from Battle Revolution as many people have proved it. The thing is the camera work doesn't focus on the mons for the same of pacing. Empoleon and Leafeon are shown having them.
>>58465544infernRAPE
>>58465666Yay or Nay
>>58465709Starmie fodder
>>58465038>90% of the background characters are black>3DS Graphics>Ugly UII'm so tired...
>>58465555Will the Sinnoh Trio even be able to make good use of Dynamax?
>>58465544>hey let's alienate an entire fucking gen of starters of any gimmick in a Legends title>also let's add 2 of the shitters from johto because JOHTOOOOOOOOOOOOO(AVGN voice) what were they THINKING?
>>58465252They started designing the games for people who actually play PvP and not zoomers who watch the game once on youtube
>>58465038dynamax is going to be the only viable option. ditto is going to be on every team, as it's far and away the best counter to broken dynamax sweepers.enjoy your 5 pokemon meta.
>>58466184At this point I'd like to think GF sees that Sinnoh is a glaring ommission. They literally have nothing. But I just have no hope for them anymore, mainly my bro Infernape. At least my OG Blastoise will be always guaranteed to get something new, but I'd gladly sacrifice that if it meant Empoleon gets something.
>>58465038realistically if its something like 6v6 singles then anything with last respects is going to be better then any of the gimmicks
>>58465038>dynamaxIncreased base HPIncreased base power for every moveEvery move also increases a stat for all allies or sets up weatherThere's also Gigantamax but it's actually worse lmao>mega evolutionHyperbuffs one Pokemon and that's it>z-moveYou can use 1 nuke. wow>teraChanges the type of something which can be really fucking brokenAlso brings back Hidden Power sortaIf you're really free to use whichever gimmick you want then I can't wait to see how much of a shitshow the next VGC will be. (Also Dynamax clearly wins)
>>58465830>90% of the background characters are blackkek is true, wtf GF. I've been thinking about it since the SV npc designs, but activists have really infiltrated deep into GF, huh.
>>58465038Dynamax is both more flexible and even more busted than Tera and Mega Evolution could ever be. Z Moves arent even in the discussion
>>58466280Fucker its future france, I think you gotta be delusional to say its activism to properly represent a nation
>>58465221>Z splash Gyarados with wind support can wreck
>>58465368>WiWaretard
>>58465038Whichever is the one(s) are allowed in that ruleset.
>>58465544What gimmick do the Paldea starters have? Terastallization isn't unique for them.
>>58465038they really should have just stopped at megas and focused more on gameplay mechanics in gen 8 onwards and giving 1 & 2 stage shitmons better evolutions because having all of these gimmicks available at once is fucking stupid
All the sweaty tryhards would gravitate towards the tryhard shit that's most effective in fucking over casuals and people who have actual lives so Dynamax.Unless the Pokemon you used Dynamax on is one that everyone is suddenly clairvoyant over and has their third eye open for to sodomize with a coverage move that conveniently appeared in their shitmon's moveset.
>>58465038I'm gonna use Gen 10 gimmick.
>>58466480Procedural generation?
>>58466310>Pokemon Champions>FranceEh?
Should I start training a GMax Snorlax?
>>58466505Super Weather
>>58466554Maybe wait say 5 years for Legends Galar
>>58465038do you choose before entering, or do you have all 4 options available until you choose one?It matters, because if they can be used as 4 different forms of pivot that's huge.
>>58465160Dragon Tail.
On one hand dynamax is busted, on the other hand you have shit like pick related avaliable. Hard to say who wins.
>>58465038Dynamax is so much stronger than the others that it's not even funny.
>>58466903>>58466941Dynamax without the Dymamax Candy boost is only 50% more health.I wouldn't imagine pokemon pulled from Let's Go would get to keep their candy AV boosts. So I don't expect candy Dynamax boosts from Galar to work either.And Max Moves aren't actually all that much stronger than Tera-boosted moves. Last Resort and Hyper Beam don't even gain power and Self-Destruct loses some. I'd say max moves basically always get a +50% boost or less, which is what Tera gives, 1.5 STAB, or 2x STAB if already STAB.So between a lvl0 Dynamax and a Tera, you're choosing between 3 turns of 50% health and a type specific effect on your moves vs the moves normal secondary effects and potentially resisting a common threat or getting stab boost on coverage.>>58465426they were originally from the same game before they cancelled Z.Z moves would have been presumably the answer to not every mon getting a mega. Like how Plus Moves are in PLZA.Of the four, I think they're the most balanced to allow together compared to the other two because megafug aside they both require item slots on any mon you want the option to use it on. Megas are like a Soul Dew or Griseous Core you have to activate in battle.
>>58466448Hopefully they have tighter control with a dynamic ban list, if certain legends/nonlegends have gorillion usage rate then outright ban them next week or something
>>58465038Little Jimmies around the world are going to flood low ranks with cool/edgy megas.Sweaty high ladder nerds are going to abuse Dynamax strats to set up easy sweeps.You'll sometimes see meme Z-Moves, mostly as an anti-meta option to beat oppressive monsTera is a singles meme to get a free sweep going in the right matchup.
>>58467092>they were originally from the same game before they cancelled ZSource: your ass. There isn’t a single thing in the teraleak backing up your claim, even with what we actually know about the Kalos follow up games (which we know for certain were a pair, rather than a singular “Z” version). We also know for a fact they didn’t even come up with Z-moves until much later in SM’s development, and that originally their plan was just to do a summon type feature.
