These games are not about mystery and adventure anymore. Just coom and ‘tubers.
>>58480914To be fair it is pretty difficult to have mysteries nowadays when you can get information from every human being in the planet at the press of a button.
>>58480923Not even that, the games just don’t have that vibe any more, y’know? Like nothing is unexplained or mysterious. They never keep anything hidden anymore.
>>58480938the problem is they cut so many corners with these newer releases that any sense of "mystery" is just shit they had to put on the cutting room floor because theres too many ideas guys and not enough competent people on their team to implement said ideas
>>58480914SV was about mystery and there's genuinely nothing like the Meloetta encounter method or the ridiculous method to get Keldeo in SwSh
>>58480914Damn zoomers and their decompilations.
>>58480914you'll consoom it anyway
>>58480914We still get mysteries, just shitty ones like finding out how to evolve Galarian Yamask and Finizen.
>>58480914Is it really such a mystery to inspect a rock and find a lum berry?
>>58480914This is just a nonfunctional version of the Ilex Forest shrine
>>58480914The white rock feels less like a mystery and more like an event that didn't end up happeningMystery is more like mirage island and the regi quests
>>58480914The they them cuck imablissey made an event for that rock. I did resets for it to get a shiny jirachi to HOME
>>58480938"Open world" games ironically take away the mystery, because when you can literally climb every mountain and reach all the edges of the sandbox you understand more than ever that there is nothing left for you to find.
>>58481395based takepokemon works best linear, maybe even soft open-world but full open is just too much
>>58481443I don't differentiate between different types of open world, so the idea that there is something you can actually delineate interests me.What's the difference between "hard" and "soft" open world, in your opinion?
>>58481457NTA, but I always had that question in my head: what's an open world?A world where you can go anywhere? You can walk almost any dungeon anywhere since Gen 1.A world that separates safe places/areas from dangerous ones? Cities and Routes.The ability to climb every mountain you see? The Elder Scrolls have been doing this since Morrorwind. Skyrim only made it memeable due to how broken it was, JUST LIKE SV AT LAUNCH.What's an open world in the end? Because I feel I already played many since the SNES.
Pardon, made a typo.>>58481551>what's an open worldWell, in my own person interpretation, it's a map design philosophy where the usage of totally impassable barriers is kept to an absolute minimum, and barriers which can be surpassed later are limited, often by enemy design or something else tied to your player character's level and/or items(like stamina.) All areas must also be interconnected with as few edges as possible.In comparison, a linear game prevents you from going from two different areas in a beeline, instead breaking the map up into chunks that unlock over time based on story beats. You can't just leave Route 1 to the right to swim across the river and land at Route 17, you must instead progress through a fixed route.In short, open world is giving you a wide open map and expecting you to forge your own page, while a linear game constructs the path for you.Hope that makes sense. It's hard to put into words what I'm looking for in an open world game.>Skyrim only made it memeable due to how broken it wasI feel like there's other reasons, like the part during E3 where he points to the Throat of the World and goes "you can walk it."
>>58481641They should be more like pokemon red/blue where you can go anywhere once you get surf. You only have to do the first 3 badges in order.
>>58482477Oh and Giovanni is always last. But it's kind of open after not too long even though it has routes and all that.
>>58480923Didn't it take a while to figure Palafin evolution out?
>>58480914There's still a mystery, how can people enjoy ZA
>>58482483The mystery was here, but the mystery has simply gone.
>>58480914>"OLD GAME... LE GOOD" thread number million
>>58482658We can start changing it up once the new games are le good.
>>58480923The world was like that back in Gen 3 you tard.
They were never about mystery or adventure they were monster catching games.
>>58481008the meloetta encounter is like all those old playground rumors to unlock pokemon like mew or celebi actually being true without some time wasting bullshit that makes it hard to disprove. Like at this point Im half expecting a genuine mew encounter under a truck at some poiny
>>58482726>>58482658Tard younger zoomers really don't know what they are missing out on.
If I remember correctly, teraleak confirmed that this rock was related to Jirachi indeed
>>58482796just use an emulator instead of whining several times uncle
>>58482803You don't get it, just go back to pretending to be black or something,
>>58480923Aren't people still uncovering hidden shit in Elden Ring?
>>58482726and guess just on WHAT you catch these monsters...hint hint... on an ADVENTURE.
>>58482829We played Zelda for the adventure not the checklist Pokedex game anon. Play more games.
>>58480938>Like nothing is unexplained or mysteriousOfficially speaking, we have no definitive, clear cut answer on the nature of the Paradox Pokemon or Terapagos's powers.There are absolutely still unexplained and mysterious details, but when there are, fans just bitch and moan about them because it generates tribal feuding (see: Time Travel VS Imagination) until a Teraleak-level leak comes out and presents the internal answer the public was never meant to know.
Sometimes they do add weird esoteric mysteries, and then people complain about Game Freak NOT providing enough answers.It's better for lorefags and Wikis that they explain everything thoroughly.
>>58482847Funny that despite everything the game said, the real answer was actually imagination. We finally know that the second part of teraleak revealed
>>58482996I mean it makes sense considering the name paradox. The games purposely gave conflicting evidence.
>>58482996wait did it actually?
>>58483112Expecting Pokemon fans to have critical thinking skills is like expecting an autist to know what pussy feels like.
>>58482716I found out about the regis through my cousin and not gamefaqs
>>58483126yea people have this problem were if a character says something in universe then it MUST be taken as fact, and supporting and indirect evidence that contradict it must be wrong. Like in universe, it’s said Rayquaza was the first pokemon to mega evolve but for all we know it could have actually been a difference one. You the player aren’t around to see it, people make misconceptions all the time in real life.
>>58482726You catch the monsters by going on an adventure
>>58483430Writers don't put false information in their stories, everything characters say is written to explain things to the audience.
>>58483112I know>>58483117Yes, check ppg, I think the info it's still up on the thread
>>58483663By throwing Pokeballs*
>>58483677Writers actually do have characters make false assumptions all the time. You people bitch about it and call it a retcon because reading context is hard unless its spoonfed to you
>>58484479the adventure is the fun part, not throwing pokeballs at pokemon in an empty area
>>58480938>They never keep anything hidden anymore.They did keep things hidden, but leaks told us more than we needed to know.
>>58480914For once, this isn't a Game Freak incompetence issue. In the era of datamining, pre-release leaks, day one guides, streamers/YouTubers chasing day one views, etc., it's impossible for any game to have mysteries anymore.
>>58480914Combine all the Gens into ONE game so you can walk from one gen to the next.
>>58482847>nature of the Paradox PokemonThey’re from the past/future. The NPCs say this. Official material says this. Ohmori’s newly leaked notes say this. No reason to overthink it.>>58483112>>58483117That anon is pulling stuff out of his ass. You can check the last 3 threads on ppg here, and all of the ones by Ohmori that mention the -Raidons and paradoxes just say that they’re from the past/future, even dating back to the first scripts of the game.
>>58482716cmon, how many people had access to high speed internet in 2003? And you still had to know the specific websites to get info.
>>58480914>It's a white rock.What did they mean by this
>>58485191>how many people had access to high speed internet in 200331% of all U.S. homes had high speed internet in 2003(this includes DSL and broadband.)I don't see how internet speed plays a role here though. The internet is the internet. Sure, pictures would take longer, but you could still transmit text information, which was plenty enough to answer most of your questions, and it wasn't like images were TOTALLY unviable. 4chan still worked fine on a 56k modem.Porn sites were profitable in the 90s, when only 14% of the U.S. population was online.>you still had to know the specific websites to get infoGoogle existed back then and it exists now. If you remove Google... you still have to know the specific websites to get info.
>>58480914Turns out kids grew up and discovered they like penor in vagoo. Who could have possibly foreseen this.
>>58485179Yeah, but we didn't have definitive Word of God proof of the Paradoxes until the Teraleak, because no character could definitively prove the time machine was actually a time machine as we, the player, never see it function outside of summoning Paradox Pokemon and the AI professor effectively performing a noble sacrifice on themselves to stop the Time Machine at the cost of their own existence (they literally tell you they can't exist without Area Zero, and it's likely the professor's tech is a contributor to that as well).Not only that, if the Teraleak says they're simply from the past/future, that confirms they aren't from alternate timelines like how some people speculated, these really ARE the absolute primordial/absolute endgame counterparts of today's mons and there's quite possibly thousands more of these freaks just waiting to be unearthed through other means since pretty much any Pokemon aside from the UBs are fair game to get a Paradox.
