>>58483050
>Gatr
Mega Gatr needs Dragon's Maw to get anything going for it, if it gets Strong Jaw it will just be a worse Feraligatr that wastes your Mega, same goes for Sheer Force.
>Mega Meganium
Are you serious? It's got a great defensive profile and resists a ton of really common offensive types like Fighting, Ground, Dark, Dragon and Water, and while it does have some bad weaknesses in Ice and Fire, that's it, Poison barely matters as an offensive type and Mega Meganium has both the bulk and HP to endure some pretty hefty hits, while also not being a slouch in terms of offenses either, especially with the coverage it got in champions, not to mention Meganium already had a ton of really good support moves, it won't be amazing, but it's not bad, not even close.
>Mega Emboar
People underestimate how bulky it really is, and this fucker gets Drain Punch too, that combined with Flame Charge will make for a dangerous late game sweeper, it's not even as hard as some folks may think it is, especially with how much Emboar scares off the field like Kingambit, Incineroar and quite a few slow walls, so grabbing that speed boost is easy.
>Mega Clefable
Is better than people give it credit for, and depending on the ability it will be a very dangerous late game cleaner, funnily enough regular Clefable doesn't even mind being itemless due to being a Knock Off absorber, and the Mega's Flying addition adds mind games to the mix.
>Mega Chesnaught
Flying spam has become very common as of recently in VGC and Mega Charizard Y has always been extremely popular so yeah, Mega Chesnaught is great but it's kinda fucked in VGC, it will be a fantastic OU Pokemon assuming we get int a singles format.
>Mega Delphox
Fast, hits hard, amazing coverage, great offensive typing and it's one point of speed lower than both Chien-Pao and Flutter Mane, thanks Gamefreak.

>>58483288
Sheer force + Dragon Rush is a phenomenal offensive threat. There are ways to boost its accuracy that gatr learns.
The most important thing gatr got with his mega is phenomenal typing. It
Will live and die on its ability but it has the potential to be broken as fuck. Alternatively give it a tough claws clone.

>>58483288
People usually run at least one poison or steel to handle fairies. I definitely think its a problem, especially when there are other mons that do what it does without turning mega. Its honestly giving me mega audino vibes where you’re just turning it mega to be some ultimate support mon.

>>58483318
What I find insulting is that Feraligatr lost Ice Punch in ZA for some retarded reason, has Gamefreak been listening to retarded armchair idea guy jewtubers who think Pokemon getting any coverage is le hecking bad?
>>58483333
It has 143 special attack, Mega Audino sucked because it was too passive and also because Healer fucking sucks, if it had kept Regenerator it would have been a pretty decent passive wall.

>>58483382
I don’t get it either. Probably to bank on the retarded fang idea but to be frank I am way more upset about it not getting dragon rush. Outrage is still better I guess but having a stronger teleport move than aqua jet would have been nice.

Based purely on design it seems obvious to me that Gatr gets Dragons Maw and Skarm gets GaG.

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>>58483474
Would a Pokemon as offensively oriented as Mega Skarmory even make good use of Good as Gold? I mean, completely fucking over ANY status usage is funny as fuck, but the Mega feels like it was also made with either Sharpness or Tough Claws in mind.
Unrelated but despite utterly despising how lazy and outright bad Mega Skarmory looks, I like that Gamefreak revived yoloskarm with a vengeance.

Scoli seems kinda meh sadly, its obvious they didn't want to overlap with Mega Beedrill so they went for more bulk and cut its speed instead.
If it does get Tinted Lens then maybe a Protect+Swords Dance set could be neat, grabbing a speed boost while its still unevolved.

>>58483050
>Gatr
>The 160 base attack basically covers the life orb boost so this will live or die
Yeah but he has to clear the sheer force + LO boost. Realistically I only see him getting strong jaw but then he's just a worse mega sharpedo so idk.
>Meganium
>I don’t see how you salvage this. Its basically literally Meganium with more weaknesses
It gains a single weakness to steel, a dark resist, a fighting resist, a dragon immunity, and goes neutral on bug. Stat boosts are very nice, but shame it doesn't get play rough otherwise swords dance might've been viable. Will be heavily dependent on ability.
>Clef
>Literally togekiss minus items
Fairy Flying is a very good type on its own. Keeping magic guard with the stat boosts would be fine but idk if it clears a LO boost. Aerilate could be interesting, we'll see.

>>58483578
Meganium is 4x weak to poison

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Realistically, what would she need to breach OU, if possible? Adaptability or Technician seem like best-case scenarios, Ice Scales would be a meme pick but workable, Snow Warning might be a decent one for a fast Veil setter, but if we retain Snow Cloak or Cursed Body, it's just over. I know 120 speed and 140 special attack's not gonna be much in a post Chien-Pao and Flutter Mane world, but I'm not ready to give up on Mega Froslass as viable yet, even if every other clickbait Poketuber is.

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>>58483578
Even if it gets strong jaw Outrage clears the LO+Sheer force boost on base gatr thanks to stab. The issue is of course…it effectively has no ability, which is a major issue on its own, nobody will run crunch on that thing when water stab is better, but I guess its getting 5 more bp on an ice move….?
Seriously I hope the ability leak posted a few weeks ago is false cause strong jaw would be the absolute most retarded thing they can do, granted that leak had some of the base stats wrong.

>>58483667
Maybe snow warning? Being able to set weather on mega evolve is one of the things that made zard y good.

>>58483050
>Mega Meganium
>I don’t see how you salvage this.
The pre-champions Beta Sim gave it Triage and its doing pretty well there as a bulky tank with priority Gigadrain and Synthesis. If it got Draining Kiss, that'd be even better.

>>58483538
>bad Mega Skarmory looks
I like it, but maybe that's just because he's my favorite Pokemon, so I'm biased

>>58483740
Triage effects drain moves?

>>58483050
When the Totodile head is flipped back like this, it makes me think Feraligatr could pull of Glaive Rush.
Probably not the best move for a mon starting at 78 base speed, but it would be a cool option.

>>58483740
What beta sim? Is it some showdown thing?

>>58483815
Its strongest suit is that it learns both DD and agility. The former puts it in a speed tier above 120 base speed with neutral nature while the latter is faster than 150 base speed at neutral nature.
Consider it also gets Swords dance and you’ll see why it has so much potential especially under tailwind.
It also gets aqua jet if all of that wasn’t enough and his mega has a monumental 160 base attack.

Mega Meganium has an innate hidden ability to ignore the charge part of Solarbeam in Legends Z-A, so is it possible it might have something like that in Champions as an ability? An ability that lets it ignore the charge turn of multi-turn charging moves.

>>58483538
I actually like Mega Skarmory

>>58483913
>innate ability in ZA
What are you talking about?

>>58483683
I’m mad they didn’t give it more speed, it can’t outrun Dragapult at +1. Fucking dumb to get those last 10 points in special attack.

>>58483800
>>58483924
Skarmory is one of my favorite Pokemon and I can barely stand this thing, the claws look extremely tacky and the color change is only there to hide how little the design changes otherwise. A lot of older Megas looked visually distinct from their base forms and even had separate models to show this, obviously there were exceptions like Kangaskhan due to it's baby being the focus and Venusaur's Mega admittedly was kinda bland, but half the new Megas are just the Pokemon's regular models with shit added on top, I really hate it in the majority of cases. Mega Skarmory just straight up looks worse than regular Skarmory.
>>58483667
There's a non 0% chance Gamefreak gives it Refrigerate like Mega Glailie, but like, Froslass really can't really use it.
>>58483889
Showdown has a beta for a ZA styled gamemode right now yeah.

>>58483333
Meganium got Body Press in the SV DLC, and Earth Power in ZA.

>>58483538
>Would a Pokemon as offensively oriented as Mega Skarmory even make good use of Good as Gold?
Absolutely. You can't wisp it, you can't twave it, you can't phase it, you can't put it to sleep, no parting shot. Gholdengo is already oriented toward offense and makes great use of the ability.

>>58483976
I’ll be honest: I would rather take a less visually distinct mega over something like Feraligatr’s. I don’t think I’ll ever stop being mad at that.

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>>58483050
They didn’t even bother to give it a good mega design. What makes you think they’ll make it good competitively?

>>58483050
>>Mega Meganium
I don’t see how you salvage this. Its basically literally Meganium with more weaknesses.
It literally only gets 1 additional weakness and only makes Poison x4 effective.
You resist Water, Dark, Ground, Fighting, and have a Dragon immunity in exchange for being weak to Steel.

>>58483333
Anon, why do you think those people are running Steel or Poison moves in the first place? It’s because Fairy is a good type.
This is like saying Steel sucks because types commonly run to beat Steel types specifically are common.

>>58484130
Its stats and typing…? Which are already extremely good? Why are you even in this thread.

>>58484261
And 4x weak to poison.

>>58484282
This is like saying chesnaughts 4x weakness to flying doesn’t matter

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>>58484072
Neither will I in plain honesty, as someone who loves Feraligatr I felt like my heart has been irreparably damaged. But Mega Feraligatr doesn't change much, it just has a shit gimmick and a toilet lid tumor on it's head now.
Mega Skarmory is not offensively hideous, it's just rather boring to me and I don't think the claws accentuate Skarmory's design and even outright damage it, especially considering Skarmory's whole thing was it's bladed feathers.
I can at least see myself using Mega Skarmory in battle sims and fangames, I will never even touch this abomination by comparison, not even 2D art and sprites can give it any charm, it's just fucking terrible.

>>58484282
Honestly its less about it having extra weaknesses and more about being a wall with a handful of common weaknesses and a 4x weakness everyone carries at least one of.
Yeah I know you can make a comparison to swampert but swampert only has 1 weakness and to be frank its less common than poison.

>>58483050
I've seen nobody mention this, but I can see Mega Gatr have an exclusive version of Parental Bond. Since it first bites you with the dumb totodile head, and then it can bite you a second time with its real jaw

I hope I'm mistaken because a 160 attack parental bond sounds disgusting

>>58484130
Doing Blastoise dirty like that was low. Especially from Inceleon.

>>58484459
With bite moves? I mean what sucks is that theres nothing it learns that takes advantage of that besides crunch and ice fang. Literally no stab options

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I haven't seen anyone talking about it, but it's very possible Mega Dragalge might get Regenerator, I don't know how good it would be with it, but it has always been a bulky Pokemon that lacked recovery, so this could be really interesting, and despite the low HP, it's special defense of 163 is pretty ridiculous.
>>58484435
No it fucking isn't, I rarely see people carrying Poison coverage unless they're running something like Glowking or Poison Jab on a few Fighting types, but most teams always carry Grass moves of some kind, Water as a type is just as insufferable as Fairy and arguably demands even more attention when it comes to teambuilding against it.
Steel is not bad offensively, but it's also not the most standout offensive type either, so it's a pretty manageable weakness.
Meganium's weaknesses are something you can work around and scout out for with Protect in VGC or switches in singles.
>>58484459
I doubt it, Strong Jaw and Dragon's Maw are right there and Parental Bond doesn't fit naming wise, it's the same reason why Mega Gatr is not getting Disguise, it doesn't make sense with how the Totohead works.

>>58483318
Have your partner mon use gravity, EZ.

>>58484491
Why is Game Freak always so hesitant to give poison-types Recover? Is it because they can't get poisoned?

>>58484301
It does matter but is balanced out by resisting and walling a bunch of great Pokemon and the ability to fight back too.

>>58484491
He means an exclusive version of parental bond that only affects bite moves.

>>58483382
>armchair idea guy jewtubers who think Pokemon getting any coverage is le hecking bad?
Do people really say that?

>>58484542
Hes probably talking about wolfey who hates feraligatr

>>58483050
Assuming Champions meta will likely be ZA dex only for the first regulation they will probably give some megas Drizzle and Surge abilities so it isn't just weather with Charizard/Tyranitar/Abomasnow.
My predictions
Drizzle for Drampa or Dragonite
Grassy Surge for Chesnaught or Victreebel
Misty Surge for Meganium
Psychic Surge for Malamar
Electric Surge for Eelektross
I can also see Falinks getting some weird gimmick ability

>>58484526
What's bizarre is that quite a few Poison types do get recovery moves, Nidoking and Nidoqueen get Morning and Moonlight respectively, Gamefreak is just very anal when it comes to distributing moves Pokemon desperately need, not Poison type related by Snorlax doesn't have Slack Off to this very day.
>>58484542
There's that one insufferable jewtuber who gets shilled around /vp/ sometimes due to his hacks, I think he's called Smith? He constantly bitches nonstop that Pokemon like Nidoking, the starters and such getting access to the elemental punches somehow breaks the game because hmmm.......it just does okay?!

>>58483812
sure does, i remember styling on pheromosa with a meme offensive comfey set in early SM since nobody knew what comfey did.
draining kiss killed that roach dead.

>>58483913
isn't that just the plus version of solar beam? pretty sure mega venusaur does that too.

>>58483667
i dunno about OU, but if it gets snow warning i can see some potential as an aurora veil setter in VGC. ninetales already sees use so it's a tried and true playstyle, and froslass brings fake out immunity to the table.

Mega Greninja seems to get an unique version of Water Shuriken when it Mega evolves, instead of it being a multi-hit move it just throws out a massive Water Shuriken.
Delphox seems to get something slightly similar with Mystical Fire, although I'm not entirely sure if it's just an animation flare.

>>58484664
Thats just unique animation. Gator does the bite animation for outrage.

>>58484548
Why does he hate Gatr?

>>58484789
I don’t think he has any reason in particular.

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Is there literally any way to save mega dragonite or is he just doomed to be worse salamence

>>58484946
Normal Dragonite has multiscale which was help for some setup shenanigans
Exspeed is an amazing move even if you run a Timid nature
Mega Salamance was the most popular as a special attacker because of Intimidate shenanigans, and it "only" has 120 SpA, white Dragonite has a whopping 145

I can see the standard VGC set being:
Icy Wind
ExSpeed
Draco Meteor/Hurricane
Protect

>>58484902
odd. I assume it’s just autism then

>>58485010
mega mence also brought its own intimidate to the table which dragonite doesn't

>>58483050
>It will need a broken ability that helps with the poison weakness
I wish retards like you would actually play the games. No one uses poison attacks, and a 4x weakness has literally never been a death sentence for a pokemon. Fire/Fighting/Ice/Ground are much more common of attacking types, yet Ferrothorn/Tyranitar/Garchomp/Heatran have been among the most consistently good pokemon in the game.

>>58483333
>people often run fire, fighting, or ground attacks, so using a steel type is a defensive liability
This is how you sound. Please play the games for once instead of staring at tier lists once in a blue moon, I implore you.

This thread reminds me of when people on /vp/ said Celesteela would be the worst UB because it didn’t have any standout stats like the others.

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>>58485094
Nigger I didn’t imply it was going to be horrible dogshit just mid at best and not fucking OU.
Do you really think most people are gonna use their mega on a glorified support slut that can’t even come out until the poison threat is out?

>>58485157
>poison threat
What poison threat retard?

>>58485094
Ferothron has only 2 weaknesses and only one of them phazes it.
Tyranitar is an offensive threat that can give itself a spdef boost under sand.
Garchomp and heatran are also offensive threats.
You’re right that one 4x weakness won’t kill a pokemom, but having 5 weaknesses to types you always see at least one move for and also one of them being 4x weakness is pretty different to Ferothorn.

>>58485167
Any fucking pokemon with a poison move.

>>58485184
Any pokemon with a poison move is not a threat. Is any pokemon with a fire move a threat to Ferrothorn?

>>58485193
Yes faggot when your one weakness that can OHKO or 2HKO you comes in you’re forced to switch out.
What the fuck is meganium going to wall using giga drain?

>>58485240
Yeah I am sure dondozo with poison jab will definitely scare Meganium out

>>58483538
Mega Skarm looks far better in literally any context that isn't the original leaked image because that's not even from the game.
It flies, it attacks with its talons curved and forward, just makes way more sense on person.

>>58483050
>Mega Delphox
>I think this will be good no matter what ability it gets.
What if it gets defeatist + slow start in one ability? Would it be good then? Retard.

>>58483913
That’s just a + attack, buddy

>>58485251
It would leave you at less than 30% of your hp effectively crippling you and thats with the def boosting nature and a neutral nature on dondozo

252 Atk Dondozo Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Meganium-Mega: 236-280 (64.8 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Possible damage amounts: (236, 240, 240, 244, 248, 252, 252, 256, 260, 260, 264, 268, 268, 272, 276, 280)
I am assuming you’re not gonna run max def/hp just so that unstab poison jab leaves you at half hp instead and no giga drain doesn’t OHKO max hp dondozo even if you’re modest.

>>58485338
I think her point is that random Poison coverage isn’t that useful. If Mega Meganium isn’t common, or only has a minor niche, you’re effectively wasting a moveslot. desu, I’d be more wary of stray Ice-type and Fire-type moves

>>58485350
Sludge bomb is on like almost every lando in vgc. It’s relatively common, even if ice is way more popular.

>>58483050
I feel like Meganium is just going to get Chlorophyll.

>>58485176
Poison and steel aren’t common enough for the average fairy to worry about as coverage moves. The only pokemon that really run those are ones that have them as stab. Pokemon like Garchomp and Roaring Moon need to consider whether they want to hit fairies, or something else that would otherwise wall them, and more often choose the latter because steel/poison suck as offensive types in more situations. Basically, in a situation where a pokemon has one of those moves, they are going to second guessing even coming in at the wrong time because they’re likely weak to earth power. Yes, Lando, Kingambit, etc. have fewer weaknesses, but they are *weaker* to move types that have been historically much more commonplace as coverage around every corner.

It really is too early to call Mega Meganium’s usefulness (or uselessness) when we don’t know its ability. Still, OP’s contention that a 4x poison weakness of all things is going to invalidate it (or somehow render it unsalvageable, in his own words) is frankly pretty retarded, all things considered.

>>58485157
Your entire post reeks of the same garbage every non-player spews when they see a 4x weakness on a pokemon that isn’t blisteringly fast. Meganium has bulk to spare. Giving it some shit ability to “nerf its weaknesses” will only make it worth even less as a mega slot, as it would be utilizing its ability just to spread itself thin and contribute nothing else with its lack of an item. It’s a strong special attacking fairy with ground coverage- it ideally wants an ability to capitalize on its offensive prowess. Anons mentioned chlorophyll, which would be much better for it than your stupid idea.

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This is what croc lorefags want:
252+ Atk Strong Jaw Feraligatr-Mega Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo: 110-130 (21.8 - 25.7%) -- possible 5HKO
Possible damage amounts: (110, 111, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 119, 120, 122, 123, 124, 126, 127, 128, 130)

252+ Atk Feraligatr-Mega Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo: 165-195 (32.7 - 38.6%) -- 4.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

This is what croc enjoyers want:
252+ Atk Sheer Force Feraligatr-Mega Dragon Rush vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo: 178-211 (35.3 - 41.8%) -- 85.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Dragon's Maw Feraligatr-Mega Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo: 246-291 (48.8 - 57.7%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

If gatr gets strong jaw I will just make skill swap/entrainment huge power strats with Agility.

>>58485591
the final strong jaw cope is it getting fishous rend

>>58485394
I think it should get something that fits its
>SOLAR BEAM CANNON
name.
It should skip recharge/charge turns.

>>58485601
Fishious rend will do nothing but insure Gatr gets sent straight to uber

>>58485601
Not happening since it's japanese name is "Gill Bite"

>>58485394
Flower Veil

>>58485619
yeah which is why strong jaw is garbage

>>58485559
>literally zero data to argue his claim

>>58485514
I think its pretty presumptuous to assume most OU sets wouldn’t run a poison move but either way I don’t think its walling even common OU offensive threats:
252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Meganium-Mega: 190-224 (52.1 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Mega Feraligatr disguises itself as a Totodile. So what if it gets disguise?

>>58485591
I fucking hate Mega Feraligatr but love Feraligatr to death, so I'm not sure if I even want this humiliation ritual to be usable, but if I had to take my picks of what I wanted it to have to be good, I'd ask for Dragon's Maw so it can nuke everything with even just Dragon Claw.

>>58485706
If all you care about is his design then why do you even care about its competitive viability? Base gatr will never breach mid and will forever be outshined by gyarados

>>58485677
M-feraligatr doesn't use red head except when it's attacking so disguise make no sense.
It's likely getting strong jaw, dragon's maw or an offensive ability.

>>58484605
Huh, neat

>>58485706
If it gets dragons maw he wants to use outrage and be a lategame sweeper in either singles or doubles, dragon claw would really only ohko shitmons.

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>>58485706
>literally just feraligatr with an awkwardly placed cap
I get that it doesn’t look cool and I sympathize as well but are you really going to cry about an oversized hat forever when the overall design is still mostly the same? Nothing we do is gonna change its design. It has very real potential to be good competitively thanks to most of the bst boost going to attack and getting one of the best typings in the game. Either way try to keep your seethe under control to keep the thread on topic.

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Not happening but since its nice to dream heres what a fishous rend looks like to what is probably its best switch in:
252+ Atk Strong Jaw Feraligatr-Mega Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo: 174-205 (34.5 - 40.6%) -- 55.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

>>58485924
Kingdra no defense investment.
252+ Atk Strong Jaw Feraligatr-Mega Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 139-163 (47.7 - 56%) -- 84% chance to 2HKO
Okay now imagine this against dondozo under rain.

>>58485949
Lmao, this thing would eat bulkier teams alive with a bit of chip

>>58486012
Honestly my favorite part is that it could run agility instead of DD. You really just need a rain setter.
Alternatively just run a tailwind setter in doubles. It rips anything to shreds without setup

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>>58485619
>in game
>animation is a slash
>in the anime
>pic rel
Explain why crobat gets brave bird please

>>58485648
>Urshifu
>OU
Good to know you don’t actually play the game at all.
>I think its pretty presumptuous to assume most OU sets wouldn’t run a poison move
You can quite literally check the usage stats. They’re public. The only non-poison type to run poison coverage in OU at an (semi) high level of play and actually see a fair amount of use is Darkrai. Second place is Cinderace, which runs it on less than 1/5th of its usage.

>>58485394
>>58485612
>>58485630
Solar Power. It makes too much sense
>All special moves are boosted
>Solarbeam takes one turn
>Got Weather Ball in SV

>>58486371
Alright then lets assume meganium is ou in both smogon and vgc for whatever reason and you see it on every team:

252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Meganium-Mega: 380-448 (104.3 - 123%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Meganium-Mega: 190-224 (52.1 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Damn I guess its gonna have to run away constantly

>>58486371
Darkrai and Cinderace also get OHKO’d by Meganium if they switch in on the incorrect prediction, so they’re checks at best.

Even among poison types themselves, Glimmora rarely runs sludge wave, so even if it’s faster it, as a lead, is not really ever going to be in a position where it’s switching in on or facing Meganium. If Meganium leads, Glimmora isn’t killing it. Weezing-Galar? A check, but not a counter. Meganium outspeeds and can 2HKO with earth power, as over 90% run neutralizing gas. If it’s running levitate to counter Meganium for whatever reason, then this would also tacitly speak to Meganium being considered a threat in OU. Pecharunt’s most popular set by a wide margin (pivot) can check but not counter. Slowking-Galar is the only OU poison type that actually counters a basic 252/252 Meganium spread with its most common set at high level play. It’s the only one that doesn’t shit its pants at the thought of switching in on earth power.

It really only needs to win the prediction game once. Or not at all, if it gets Chlorophyll and can outspeed these.

Is it just me or is Mega Scrafty really shit? Like the stats seem good when you look at them at first and Parting Shot is really good to have on Scrafty now, but it's still pretty slow, has really low HP, it's competing with absurdly fucking stupid good Megas that share a type with it including Darkrai eventually and it's just okay, I think there's a place for it in the meta as a slow but reliable wallbreaker, but it's just I don't know, kinda awkward? Especially now with Mega Lopunny getting literally every fucking move in the game and fucking Mach Punch and Swords Dance, because physical Flutter Mane wasn't stupid enough in gen 6. Our punk is gonna have a tough time finding his place.

>>58486608
Having intimidate for it's base form ability is really fucking good.

>>58486799
That is true, I have to wonder what ability Gamefreak would give it, I could maybe even see a Fur Coat clone given how the description says the dead skin hoodie is extremely tough and durable.
Honestly Scrafty's abilities are so fucking good as it is for different purposes that's pretty hard to tell which would be best on the Mega.

>>58486608
mega lopunny is not gonna be all that good in gen 9. it might have swords dance, but it's still completely cucked by the lack of return/frustration.
its best normal stab option is fucking facade, any fighting-resistant pokemon is going to dunk on it. that perfect neutral stab coverage isn't so hot when one of your stabs is 70BP.

>>58484491
Mega Dragalge needs something that'll give it an edge over regular Adaptability Dragalge holding Assault Vest, otherwise they're probably only about as good as each other.

>>58483692
I don't think it'll get Snow Warning itself because Blizzard will be retarded when combined with that.

>>58486608
Intimidate pre-mega and those stats are definitely usable, it has the highest defense stat of any Intimidate Pokemon by a wide margin, and it has a good attack stat now too. Even with the x4 fairy weakness I don't think it could ever be full on shit.

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>carries your entire team

I'm more curious about whether old megas will see any changes.
It'll be wacky if Mega Gallade keeps Inner Focus when Gallade got Sharpness. I know IF is a good ability now but it's no Sharpness.
And for fuck's sake, they need to salvage Mega Audino.

>>58487365
Healer itself should be buffed to having a 100% chance to remove status from your team at the end of a turn.

>>58487303
Cute couple.
Hellfrog is also getting a Mega and fags have very good reasons to be fucking terrified of it, can you imagine if they give Mega Heatran Earth Eater as a joke?
>>58487365
Mega Audino needs more reliable healing and Regenerator back, it's not gonna be great but it's gonna have a lot of really good situational uses, both as a wall and a late game cleaner with Calm Mind.

>>58486857
Intimidate again.
Scrafty will be able to switch in, Intimidate, mega evolve, Intimidate again, and then Parting Shot out.