>Have all game to establish these two, their ideals, and their goals >Wait until the second to last mission>Some delusional shit about how Team Flare was actually good and how they want to bring it back>Called Team Flare Neoveau implying there’s more than just the two of them>Its just the two of them>Enter their hideout>Theres no one else there>No connection to or interactions with Mabel>Mabel just goes “oh yeah those two” instead of actually fleshing out her character and having her ask them to live for themselves or or some bullshitThese two were an afterthought
You can battle other members during the infinite Z-A Royale postgame.
>>58491241>Its just the two of themThere're other Noveau Cafe spots with unique baristas with similar hairstyles who are presumably also ex Team Flare members. I won't dispute that the game doesn't spend a lot of time showing off TFN or the Rust Syndicate and it's very odd to me. Especially with Grisham being basically the final boss of the Royale you'd think they'd have set him up a little more throughout the game
>>58491263>establish your final boss in the postgame
>>58491241GRISELLE IS LIKE THE HOTTEST GIRL IN THIS GAME, WHERE IS THE PORN
team flare was right though have you seen how shitty lumiose is?
>>58491241what needed to be fleshed out exactly? Sounds more like you’re just retarded and didn’t pay attention to the game.>hurr why aren’t there people in this abandoned dilapidated lab
>>58491263fpbp OP didnt play the game and gotbtfo
>>58491241grisham should have been the main villain, he got some actual good motivation to play that role>his entire youth was following team flare propaganda>now every ex-member can't have a normal life in kalos, sort of a ex-convict thing>believes team flare had good intentions and lysandre went nuts from power and blames AZ>most of all want to clean team flare name and not live a life of shame not that that flare was innocent, but I get it he would've been a better villain than corbeau
>>58491755The fact that we played XY and know Team Flare was not good in any way
>>58491917They started good before Lysandre became genocidal and destroyed their reputation, speedreader-kun.
>>58491241KINO
>>58491923They were literally scamming people
>>58491932No they weren’t.
>>58491923>Robbed people >Stole electricity from Lumiose causing a major blackout>Experimented on children>good guys
>>58492058>>Robbed people[citation needed]>Stole electricity from Lumiose causing a major blackoutFor Lysandre's genocide plan, yes.>Experimented on children[citation needed]
>>58491241Why don’t they just dye their hair?
>>58492074NAYRT but the "experimenting on children" part is talking about Xerosic using a younger Emma as a test subject for the Essentia suit which brainwashed her and made her act like as asshole.
>>58491739it's just hilda with glasses and vtuber hair
>>58491267Could you or someone else share some screenshots?>>58491897Basically some sort of "Dolchstoßlegende" to deflect their involvement: It wasn't Team Flare but those in charge that turned evil.>>58492137But that happens after the Ultimate Weapon incident and only concerns Xerosic. With that specific example in mind, you would only blame the higher ups being immoral criminals, not the rest of Flare.
>>58491241Not that fae in the game but Isnt taunie/urbain also an ex team flare member? They also have the faded/grown out hair like op's pic?
>>58492239Plus, for as much as we can talk shit about Xerosic, he still, at the end of the day, unironically helped a homeless girl with no basic education get a proper grip on how to actually live life and set her up pretty luxuriously (the Essentia suit, his own damn Pokemon and how to be a trainer, and a surprising willingness to accommodate unexpected or inconvenient variables), dude was basically enough of a surrogate father that Emma framed a damn photo of him with Mimi when she took over the bureau, right next to the photo of Looker and Mimi.
>>58492247no but their mom probably was
>>58492321>abducts a girl to perform harmful experiments on him>no he was a good guyIsraeli propaganda
>>58492529Good people do bad things sometimes, especially when emotions and sentimentalities like vengeance run high. Xerosic, like most members of Team Flare, resented Calem/Serena for what happened to Lysandre, because they would sooner blame the random kid who gave them trouble than recognize their idol was a fucking lunatic and maybe it's a good thing he didn't go through with his plans in full.Wouldn't you know it, this is the stance that Team Flare Noveau takes, they wholly recognize that Lysandre was driven insane and lost sight of what Team Flare was actually supposed to be about, but just like the OG Flare before them, they refuse to hold Lysandre accountable for his own mistakes, and instead resent AZ because "Lysandre would've never done what he did if not for that man's terrible weapons", pure copium because Lysandre would've just found an alternate Pokemon or tool to fulfill that mindbroken goal of his.
>>58491241>These two were an afterthoughtJust like this entire game
>>58492074>[Citation needed]>ZAfags never played XY
>>58492575>Good people>aided a genocidal maniac who was clear in his evil
>>58492649So in real life, everyone who falls for a cult is just as evil as its leader?Why the fuck aren't we giving the death penalty to every single twat who's extracted from a cult-related crime, then?
Every day I seethe about how much better XYSider’s story was for this region. Many of ZA’s story problems are downstream of XY being incomprehensible.
>>58492659It's amazing how well constructed XYSider was for being total bullshit and how it seemed to uncannily predict the things Game Freak did with later games
>>58492659>>58492675trash
>>58492651>The nazis were just following orders
>>58492659>it’s incomprehensible because I’m retarded and can’t read>>58492675>It's amazing how well constructed XYSider was no, you’re just a gullible retard who fell for a fanfic listing a bunch of vague shit that happens in half the games in the series
>>58492752>LE HECKIN NAZISredditroony moment
>>58492757>Story where nothing happens until it matters >Trainer was going to Lumiose for no reason with no Pokemon or place to stay >Trainer has no idea how to catch Pokemon in the world where Pokemon are life >AZ built a hotel because???>Rival is looking for someone but who cares that plot isn’t resolved or given more info>Rival was in debt the entire game but it doesn’t come up until you’re ready for the promotion match against the yakuza >Loan shark Yakuza runs the town but don’t do anything outside of their base until it’s time to face them unlike every other villain group that has a strong presence throughout their respective games>The top rank trainer is never brought up until it’s time to face them>never brought up that it’s a mystery competitor >Its actually Team Flare all along even though they don’t do shit>Mayor gets brought up multiple times but we never see who it is>Sycamore is missing with zero explanation >AZ didn’t ask Calem/Serena for help because ???
>>58492239>Could you or someone else share some screenshots?I'm at work lil bro, start the game and go then yourself they're on your map
>>58492816>>Rival is looking for someone but who cares that plot isn’t resolved or given more infoLiterally play the game
>>58492816>>Rival is looking for someone but who cares that plot isn’t resolved or given more infoSomeone didn't get Eternal Floette or otherwise mashed through all the dialogue without actually reading it.
>>58492816>claims XY is incomprehensible>starts screeching about ZAkek good job proving your own illiteracy
>>58492321>Emma framed a damn photo of him with Mimi when she took over the bureau, right next to the photo of Looker and Mimi.I think this solidifies that he wasn't such a bad guy more than anything else.>>58492816My personal headcanon is that the protagonist is a veteran champion trainer on vacation, leaving their pokemon at home or some lab/box/resort/farm so they can get some spa treatment too or whatever. Thus the easy-going nature when running into obvious criminals and scam artists and their inexplicably prodigious battling capabilities. They're just playing dumb and most of their lines are delivered with sarcasm.
>>58492866>claims XY is incomprehensible in defense of ZA>Show ZA is worse>screech about It
>>58492757hi yawnfag
>>58492865>The rival’s storyline is locked behind the postgame infinite battles>Thinks this goes against “it doesn’t matter until it does”
>>58492905You're the one who said the rival's story is "never resolved or given more info", and I'm explaining that it WAS resolved and DID get more info.
>>58492642>Tells people to play the game>has no idea of the things Team Flare did
>>58491241incestous couple or normal siblings.
