They don't eat PokemonShut the fuck up about it already.
>>58491774
>>58491774You've got kids talking about eating slowpoke tails in this very game, retard.
Why are you so allergic to the idea, though? Why does that make you shit your pants? Do you work at GF, or something?
>>58491774You know there are fish Pokemon, right? It has to be Pokemon because real animals were retconned out of existence after Gen 1.
>>58491774Tatsugiribros..............
>>58491793>>58491797>>58491797get new material>hurrr they eat Tropius because they eat the fruit it produces
>>58491774You will eat the pokemon and you will be happy
>>58491815wipe your ass, team rocket apologist
>>58491779>>58491793Slowpoke tails and Klawf claws apparently fall off on their own grow back. I suppose the problem with Neo Team Rocket in johto was that they were poaching wild slowpoke by manually cutting the tails off. Also milk obviously can be harvested from a healthy live animal and miltank has been around for 25 years.>>58491774Curiously, this does imply the idea of non-Pokemon wildlife which hasn't really come up since gen 1
>>58491774They describe Pokèmon as fish or birds all the time.
>>58491774>They don't eat Pokemonthere is nothing else to eatunless the entire planet is vegan
>>58491836>Curiously, this does imply the idea of non-Pokemon wildlife which hasn't really come up since gen 1Retard-kun...
>>58491836Basculin:>Red- and blue-striped Basculin are very violent and always fighting. They are also remarkably tasty.>In the past, it often appeared on the dinner table. The meat of red-striped Basculin is on the fatty side, and it's more popular with the youth.>Blue-striped Basculin used to be a common food source. They apparently have an inoffensive, light flavor.Sharpedo:>It has a sad history. In the past, its dorsal fin was a treasured foodstuff, so this Pokémon became a victim of overfishing.Wishiwashi:>It's awfully weak and notably tasty, so everyone is always out to get it. As it happens, anyone trying to bully it receives a painful lessonBarraskewda:>This Pokémon has a jaw that's as sharp as a spear and as strong as steel. Apparently Barraskewda's flesh is surprisingly tasty, too.
>>58491774Fish here refers to fish Pokemon, tard
>>58491859Unless....>inb4 nothing outside the games counts
>>58491774>they don't eat pokemon >says while posting people eating fish, which are pokemon in this worldKEK
>>58491774>In the past, it often appeared on the dinner table. The meat of red-striped Basculin is on the fatty side, and it's more popular with the youth.At the very least, they used to.
>>58491774You will eat the bug type pokemon and you will like it
Why have they never made Slowpoke tails in real life
>>58491779These mussels don't look like pokemon to meReal animals confirmed for existing as food source
>>58491800Not him but the idea is retarded.The way pokemon are depicted and treated in the pokemon universe makes eating them akin to cannibalism.
>>58491774Sure buddy.The region that introduced a pigmon also introduced ham. TOTALLY UNRELATED.
>>58491774There is literally a sushi fish pokemon retard
>>58492047Not all Pokemon are eaten, humanoid ones are definitely not.
>>58491928nothing outside the games counts
Fish can refer to fish Pokémon you retarded.Veluza is literally a dish. So is Tatsugiri.
>>58492047>cannibalism.It actually, factually does not.Why do you think otherwise?
>>58491928Anime. 1st season, therefore retconned.
>>58492064DP Library says humans eat fish Pokemon.
>>58492069Eating a species you can communicate with on a complex level and breed with is pretty much cannibalism
>>58492077>Eating a species you can communicate with on a complex level and breed with is pretty much cannibalismIt's actually not. Why do you think otherwise?>Breed withNot canon.
>>58492064What about those mussels here >>58491779
>>58492077>communicate withWhat Pokemon that humans can "communicate with on a complex level" are eaten? Definitely not the fish ones>breed withProof of that outside of folktales/myths?
>>58492077A magikarp doesn't communicate to the level of a starter or other humanoid mon.>"Some Pokémon are more equal than others"You know the story
World where there are both Pokémon and animals > World where the Pokémon are just animals
>>58492077>Eating a species you can communicate with on a complex levelNo matter how disgusting or morally frowned upon eating dogs or cats is, it's still not cannibalism, reta->and breed withOooooh, you're just trolling! My bad, carry on.
>>58492085>>58492086All pokemon species are shown to fully understand human speech in the animeAnd even in game they're implied to, as you can order them to do shit directly right after catching them.
>>58492083Can be part of a Pokémon we don't know.Pokémon are magical creatures that spawn things out of thin air when they evolve.I.e the starfish in Primarina's hair. It's an accessory not a living being. Pokémon have clothes and things that aren't part of their anatomy. Also. It's generic paella.jpgDon't think it too hard.
>>58492118Different species, not cannibalism.Simple as.
>>58492103Real life dogs are nowhere near the communication level achieved between human and pokemon.And yet even then, eating them is still seen as weird.So image how weird it would be to eat creatures like pokemon...
>>58492118Mmmmh now I want some Miltank BBQ
>>58492118Yep, a game mechanic for simplicity's sake definitely means all Pokemon can actually understand human speech. At most, they understand emotions and react to that, only specific Pokemon are capable of actually understanding human speech like Lapras and the Latis according to the dex. If it was a feature innate to all Pokemon, it wouldn't be specified.
>>58492127Doesn't mean it's cannibalism tho.Your earlier claim is still incorrect.
>>58492127Keep ignoring all the dex entries that mention Pokemon being eaten then, retard. Nobody cares about your feelings.
>>58492047Is this little girl >>58491793 a cannibal/dog-eater? Obviously she's saying she ate like a shark fin or something. Pokemon are just animals, you can definitely eat some of them, but way fewer than real life animals. Most pokemon have dog and cat pet status, but not all.
>>58492127It's weirder to think there are creatures that aren't Pokémon that exist in a canon void based in old media from a writer who wanted to make a Jurassic Park ripoff for the ashnime.How curious nobody mentions the existence of animals. The god of the world, incarnations of space and time, creators of the world all are Pokémon. But i'm scared for the implications of pokéconsumption.What about carnivorous Mons? Fuck Pyroar you'll eat tofu because the idea of seeing it eat a Skiddo is too scary.And this is why this franchise can't grow up.
Mmmm?
>>58492144Sex entries are massively incoherent and inconsistent though.Also entries about pokemon being eaten (both by humans or by pokemon) were very scarce until they suddenly became overly edgy in Gen 7 (right when Masuda was told to fuck off, as we now know...).
>>58492170>Sex entries are massively incoherent and inconsistent thoughUh....
>>58491774>They don't eat PokemonThey do according to the Pokedex.
I think its less about being kid friendly and more about not wanting to make the world too complicated. Trying to figure out a working ecosystem is absurd
>>58492170>scarce until they suddenly became overly edgy in Gen 7It was literally a major plot point in the second gen games, it was actually toned down after that. You're a faggot and a retard.
>>58492170>were very scarceGen 1:>Pidgeot>When hunting, it skims the surface of water at high speed to pick off unwary prey such as Magikarp. >Golbat>It attacks in a stealthy manner, without warning. Its sharp fangs are used to bite and suck blood. You are wrong.
There are predator Mons.Stop living in your bubble.
>>58492162>It's weirder to think there are creatures that aren't Pokémon that exist in a canon void based in old media from a writer who wanted to make a Jurassic Park ripoff for the ashnime.Not really.Regular animals always existed alongside pokemon originally.There were even some mentions of them in the games.It's way, way weirder to imagine a world where only pokemon (about 1000 species if counting different stages of lines as separate) exists and where all these creatures survive on eating each others even though they can breed and communicate together (unlike real life food chain).>How curious nobody mentions the existence of animals.As said before, they're mentioned plenty of timesSome are even depicted in recent games like mussels.Obviously the focus isn't on them, so you don't see them a lot, just like bathrooms, diseases, football stadiums...etc
>>58492127>Real life dogs are nowhere near the communication level achieved between human and pokemon.Real-life dogs are still highly intelligent and it's still not cannibalism no matter the amount of mental gymnastics you want to perform. In real-life, it's morally acceptable to eat some animals and unacceptable to eat others, and the same can most likely be applied to the Pokémon world. Why is this concept so hard to grasp and accept?
>Pokémon eat Pokémon.>People eat Pokémon.>Pokémon eat people.Grow the fuck up.
>>58492200>"I can cite two (one of them without implied death) so it's not scarce!!!"Do you know what the word means?If you were to gather all the dex entries mentioning pokemon on pokemon predation, over 70% would be Gen 7 or after.
>>58492229You still aren't correct.They do, infact, eat pokemon. Why does this upset you so much?
>>58492208>Regular animals always existed alongside pokemon originally.>There were even some mentions of them in the games.Back in gens 1-2 when the Pokémon world wasn't even established as a fantasy setting.Kanto was just a japanese region but alternate timeline. They retcon real animals with Pokémon equivalents when they're introduced.They removed the existence of Guyana from Mew's lore.And the dex giving them animal related names are only descriptive for the player, so out of the universe.
>>58492211Real dogs are retarded as fuck by pokemon standards.>it's morally acceptable to eat some animals and unacceptable to eat others, and the same can most likely be applied to the Pokémon world. Why is this concept so hard to grasp and accept?The issue being that all pokemon species fall in the "immoral" category, as they're all capables of more complex interactions with humans than real life dogs.
>>58492235>Back in gens 1-2 when the Pokémon world wasn't even established as a fantasy setting.Pokemon was always a fantasy setting.Magical shrinking animals are not real, they are fantasy.
>>58492185>Do people eat pokemon?>Can people be in a relationship with pokemon?Two things that will remain a mess in this franchise due to it being family friendly
>>58492235cope
>>58492237>The issue being that all pokemon species fall in the "immoral" categoryWhy would it be "immoral" to eat a fish?
>>58492241Pokémon 2 was going to have the whole map of Japan before they turned it into Johto + KantoAnd you know what I meant.
>>58492251For the very reason stated in the rest of the sentence you cut off
>>58492249Coping what?You're the one coping that people eat Pokémon and your evidence is old media.
>>58492254>Pokémon 2 was going to have the whole map of Japan before they turned it into Johto + KantoOkay. That doesn't mean that magical shrinking animals "are not fantasy".Why do you think it does?
>>58491774So ALL of their meat is outsourced? That sounds scarily dystopian. Why not jsut eat the Tatsugiri?
>>58492258You haven't said why it's immoral yet.You just keep insisting that it is, because it upsets you personally.That doesn't mean it's "immoral". It just means you don't like it.If you think you can prove it's immoral, go ahead, but you can't.
Look, Anon.Scary?
>>58491815The screenshot is literally from ZA, as new as you can get. Sorry
>>58492274N-NOOOOOO!!!!IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!B-B-BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO, OKAY????
>>58492266Yeah it's worse, Pokémon is supposed to be this eco-friendly world where there are a lot of Pokémon everywhere. Why eating a few is such a big real?
>>58492274Ok but a bong designed this
>>58492272You said in this post >>58492211 that's it's "morally unacceptable" to eat some animals (by which you mean dog as it's the animal mentioned in the discussion).To which I reply that then all pokemon species would fall in that "morally unacceptable" category as they all interact with humans on a more complex level than dogs do in real life.What's hard to understand?
>>58492292Stopped reading right here. I'm not defending someone else's posts.Want to try again?
>>58492274He's never seen actually swallowing a pokemon though
>>58491915/thread
>>58492274Hot
>>58492302No humans are ever shown swallowing food either.Must mean the humans don't eat food in the Pokemon canon, right?
>>58492302Ah sorry. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean they don't exist, amirite? >>58492208
>>58492274
>>58492315Yeah that is the level of mental gymnastics
>>5849230010 seconds on MS paint + not an argument even if the two posts are really from different postersIf you're gonna reply to a reply to someone else's post, make yourself aware of what the discussion is about
>>58492315Ash is shown swallowing food plenty of times
People eat PokémonPokémon eat PokémonPokémon eat peopleCry all you want but this is the world.
>>58492329You haven't proven to me why it's objectively immoral to eat a Pokemon yet.What's the matter? Do it in your next reply, don't be scared.
>>58492211Octopi are one of the most intelligent species on earth, and yet they're used as food.
>>58492315I mean, his entire gimmick is literally about throwing back the pokemon he put in his mouthsIt seems like it's more about using them as missiles than about eating them
>>58492341>MoralitySurely there's a test
>>58492337Not in game, which is what OP considers canon apparently.
>>58492343>Octopi are one of the most intelligent species on earth,Nah that's jus a meme
>>58492237>as they're all capables of more complex interactionsBy which you mean? Provide some examples for these more "complex interactions", and do keep in mind that while Pokémon can understand human language (as can intelligent, real-life animals to some degree by the way), most of them still can't verbally communicate.>>58492292Not me.>>58492300If you want to prove there isn't a (You) next to my post, then the best thing to do would have not to cut off the screenshot right at the end of the post number, retard
it’s all bioengineered
>>58491815>slowpoke tail isn't slowpoke meat because.... it just isn't"fish is vegetarian" mental gymnastics
You could be eating Alcremie shit.
>>58492353Happy now?
>AAAIIIIEEEEE NOOOOOO STOP EATING POKEMON!!!!!Okay, tell those Ghost Type twats to stop eating humans via their lifeforce, spirit, soul, etc. then, because it's completely immoral and basically cannibalism. They have literally no excuse because the game itself insists there is no such thing as an inherently evil Pokemon, only Pokemon who are influenced to do evil by evil humans. Even Pecharunt is just trying to please its dead adoptive grandparents who gave it the idea to be a greedy cunt, and species like Necrozma and Eternatus literally can't help their existences because they were born that way, and it's either "get killed lol" or suffer immensely for something that is no fault of their own.
>>58492352They are. You're just retarded.
>>58492353>By which you mean? Provide some examples for these more "complex interactions", and do keep in mind that while Pokémon can understand human language (as can intelligent, real-life animals to some degree by the way), most of them still can't verbally communicate.Being able to understand human language and obey highly precise orders in battle and outside = complex interactions.Not even the best trained dogs in real life (that most people would consider immoral to eat) can achieve the same level of interactions as pokemon can.
>>58492363Pokémon earting Pokémon Pokémon eating people People eating Pokémon XNoooooo no way that's not possible!And this is why this franchise will stay being affraid of basic biology. Like the fact Pokémon have SEX.
>>58491779Why are the recent devs obsessed with food lately? They did this shit in SV too. Lol.
>>58491774Eating Pokemon is kind of dodgy topic but definitively it's mentioned here and there, but mostly it's implied that some Pokemon can conveniently just drop and regrow parts of their bodies, like Crabrawler or Slowpoke.
>>58492363>Necrozma and Eternatus literally can't help their existences because they were born that wayIsn't that true of every animal that eats meat? You can't blame them for how they were born.
>>58492363>Okay, tell those Ghost Type twats to stop eating humans via their lifeforce, spirit, soul, etc.They don'tIt's just edgy dex entries like the ones about humans eating pokemon
>>58492395>It's not canon>b-b-becaue it's JUST NOT....OKAY????Not an argument.
>>58492382All three are bad and non canonBoth pokemon and humans eat regular animals, which are inferior non-intelligent creatures created by Arcreus to serve as protein sources for humans and pokemon
>>58492395"Just edgy dex entries"Yeah sorry but unless I see it on screen it's not canon. Because, Worldbuilding? What's that.
>>58492392At that point if their existsnce threatens humanity and can't be satiated otherwise then it's justified for humans to stop them.
>>58492405>All three are bad and non canonNot according to the pokedex it's not.
>>58492395>they don'tLegends Z-A proves Litwick is a lifeforce eater with a sidequest where a boy thinks his sister is going to get killed by a Litwick because he knows about the fact it sucks the lifeforce out of things, only for it to turn out she was willingly giving the Litwick her lifeforce so it can be healthy.Therefore, it's safe to assume all the other Pokedex entries about Ghost Types feasting on spiritual aspects is true, too, but they very deliberately frame it in a dangerous way, which is also in line with how some wild Pokemon interact with you in that game (aggressively attacking you until you black out, if Pokemon had a game over state you'd be dead right then and there if we're being honest).
>>58492385Spanish cuisine is superior. They couldn't make an iberian-themed region without focusing on the food.Galar on the other hand...
>>58492405Your source is:"Trust me bro"Sorry I forgot the scene in Legends Arceus where it tells you "btw there are other creatures that aren't Pokémon but we don't mention them only have them in isolated farms that make food."
>>58492406Dex entries are bullcrapThey also say shit like Slowpoke evolving by being bitten by Shellder
>>58492420>Dex entries are bullcrapMore canon than anything you've ever said about the franchise.Keep coping and seething, its cute.
>>58492418Curry with shit.Because BRI'ISH
>>58492248Oh, go read charlotte's web.
>>58492352They use tools, have self-recognition and can even form rudimentary societies. Only reason no one cares is because they look like gross slimy aliens.
>>58492420Reference to a feature they couldn't include.If they changed the whole Pokémon evolutive method would you be happy? That would require coding an already old mon. And everyone knows GF won't.
Do people who believe pokemon are eaten based on dex entries also believe that the real world nations of france, india, australia, china, and japan exist within the pokemon world? or that clefable is an alien from the moon?
>>58492430>and can even form rudimentary societiesThey're fucking solitary animals
>>58492434Yes and yes.I certainly believe it more than a 13 year old on 4chan who's upset about his bro Magikarp being eaten since gen 1.
>>58492385they have nothing interesting to show and use basic things such as preparing food in shitty minigames to appeal to the common denominator with cutscenes of your character enjoying his super duper sandwich, adding nothing to gameplayit's unimaginative, there surely are better ways to grant bonuses than this trash, but it's modern gamefreak after all...
>>58492433>Reference to a feature they couldn't include.Just like regular animals mentioned in early games
>>58492434Most mentions of real things are retconned once there's a Pokémon equivalent.
>>58492385Japanese (Asian people on general) people love food as much as we love sex in the West.
>>58492434>the real world nations of france, india, australia, china, and japan exist within the pokemon world?Retconned into their Pokemon World equivalents or vague mentions (China is now referred to as "The East") in order to not address potential future plans for regions.>or that clefable is an alien from the moon?So you're OK with interdimensional and time travel anomalies like the UBs and Paradoxes, but Clefable being an alien species is too far?
>>58492377>best trained dogs can understand and obey orders>pokemon can also do that but even betterOk. Is that all? Can they also all do shopping? Use manmade items? Use a computer, social media? Understand moral concepts? Laws? Do they all use specific facilities to wash and relieve themselves?
>>58492457
>>58492457Made from regular cow
>>58492465>Ham>"Made from cow"Holy shit you guys are retarded.
>>58492464>hog pokemonClearly implies regular hogs exist in the pokemon world, otherwise they wouldn't categorize it as such
>>58492465>ham>being related to cows in ANY capacity
>>58492465>Anime 1st seasonAwesome evidenceCry harder
>>58492437Not always and honestly the fact that both lifestyles exist only highlights their intelligence.
>>58492476To make it understandable for the player?Are you mentally challenged or something?
>>58492463>Ok. Is that all?That's enoughIf the best trained dogs are generally considered morally unacceptable to eat in our world, so would be pokemon in the pokemon world
>>58492488>To make it understandable for the player?holy cope
>>58492498You can't prove that it's "morally unacceptable" to eat a dog.You just don't like it, but that doesn't mean it's objectively morally unacceptable.
It's the same bullshit copium with people that to this day believe people are not Pokémon-related. Not like there are canonical PSYCHICS and people with absurd strenght feats.But those abilities came out of their asses.Because thinking that "Pokémon" is just the equivalent to the Animal Kingdom is too spooky.
>>58492512Can any of those humans shrink to pocket size?Then they aren't pocket monsters.
>>58492508Didn't say it was "objectively" morally unacceptable.I said it was to most people.
>>58492505Cope what? Give me evidence besides the names given out of the universe for the human player the human CHILD playing the game.If a Pokémon game used only Pokémon terms it would become harder to understand for the target audience.P.s: You're retarded
>>58492525So you just don't like it, thanks for confirming that you've been using the words "morally unacceptable" incorrectly.
>>58492476Or because they identified it as a thing and decided to call it "hog"
>>58492476By your logic, Non-Pokemon Dragons, literal creatures of fantasy who have never existed in reality, also exist in the Pokemon World.Is this REALLY the rabbit hole you want to start going down?
>>58492538There are dragons irl.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragon
>>58492531Most humans don't like the idea of eating creatures they have complex interactions with (dogs in real life, pokemon in the pokemon universe...).Whether it's objective morality or subjective to the human mind is irrelevant.
>>58492517You never saw one doing it. Why people would do that?Yet we can teleport with tech. Like you can Pokémon from PC to your team.Curious how people also go heal in Pokémon Centers, no hospitals anywhere around.People just lost the capacities of a full Pokémon but compensate with tech. Why is this so hard to understand? Fucking creationists.
>>58492552So now you're argument is that "morality doesn't exist".So you agree with it, it's not immoral to eat a dog or a Pokemon. Glad we figured this out.
>>58492549Ah, magical. Wonderful.>Claps.mp3A reptile named after a fantasy creature makes the fantasy creature real. 8000 IQ Logic
>>58491915You are wrong, sorry
>>58492555>Curious how people also go heal in Pokémon CentersShow one game where that happens.You won't, because you can't.
>>58492498>That's enoughIt's not. Your core argument was that eating Pokémon is akin to cannibalism, which is again factually wrong, and for it to even resemble cannibalism on the spiritual level, Pokémon would need to behave just like humans and understand all strictly human concepts, like laws. Which they can't.
>>58492568It's literally called a dragon, and it exists.Why do you think it's not a dragon? Please, tell me your incorrect reasoning for this immense retardation of yours.
>>58492565People don't eat dogs because they taste like shit, that's it. Most omni/carnivorous eat herbivourous species.
>>58492549Cool, so how do Komodo Dragons correlate to seahorses? Because Horsea is classified as the "Dragon Pokemon" but has extremely few qualities that should connect it to the Komodo Dragon.
Would you eat an alive Alcreamie? How would it feel like?
>>58492583Sure. But it's not immoral to eat pokemon, dogs, or any kind of animal, now that you've decided that morility doesn't exist.Try and stay on topic.>>58492585Ask Gamefreak, I didn't design the Pokemon or name the animals.
>>58492574Excuse me why else you regain trainer health in Z-A? Why nowhere in a Pokémon region there's a single hospital. And the excuse of "we don't see it" is BULLSHIT.Paldea is a fucking whole peninsula and we don't see a SINGLE hospital out there.Alola is a touristic attraction but the most we see for medicine are Pokémon Centers.But excuse me. Surely there's a big giant invisible human hospital, that's the barrier to not go out of bounds.
>>58492585It's also called a (sea)dragon.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_seadragon
>>58492599I'm not the one arguing about morality.I just explain why it's not common.
>>58492607>Not even 1 (one) example*yawn*
>>58492608Two different species not even from the same environment are called Dragon therefore DRAGONS ARE REAL!
>>58492621see>>58492582
>>58492599>ermmm ask gamefreak, idkAnd yet you sure do seem to know a lot about how real world animals exist in Pokemon. What happened to your sudden absolute authority on how the worldbuilding of the franchise works, bucko? You can't rationalize why a seahorse is called a dragon because it's apparently got enough connective tissue that scientists see similarities between a seahorse and a komodo dragon?
>>58492613Give me one example to prove me wrong.I'm waiting.
>>58492635>And yet you sure do seem to know a lot about how real world animals exist in Pokemon.I haven't said anything on the topic.Please quote the posts you think are mine, so I can correct you.
>>58492576Pokemon eating each others is definitely cannibalism though, as they can breed with each others and fully communicate
>>58492638Sure, when you prove your own claims to be true.I asked for proof first, so it's only fair.Don't be scared, I'm waiting! Just like a real debate, we can't move on to the next topic until you answer me, or you concede.Post your example.
>>58492583Killing a dog without a good justification (like self-defense) is literally illegal in the West
>>58492647Communication is irrelevant regarding if it's canniblism or not.Why do you keep bringing it up?
>>58492434>or that clefable is an alien from the moon?this one is real tho
>>58492650Your counterargument is "no it's not"Give me your source. Why every slightly medical person only specializes in Pokémon?
>>58492607>NOOOOOO WHERE'S THE HOSPITALSNot relevant to your Pokemon Journey, therefore they don't need to be a location you can visit.This is also why 99% of building interiors are inaccessible nowadays, because they contain nothing relevant to your Pokemon Journey unless they're a building that houses a story-relevant element or a Gym.Or do you think Paldea has a serious housing problem because the player and Nemona are the only people who have "real houses"?
>>58492658Breeding however isAnd pokemon can breed with each others (and even with humans)
>>58492664You haven't proven that the Pokemon Center heals humans yet.Why are you so afraid of proving yourself right?
>>58492655Sure. But that's a legal thing, not moral
>>58492671>Breeding however isNo. It's not.
>>58492676It's a law based on morality.There's a reason why the same isn't true for mice.
>>58492647>Pokemon eating each others is definitely cannibalism though, as they can breed with each othersSo according to you, Machoke eating a Magikarp would be cannibalism? Because they can breed with each other, right? Do you even think before you type?
>>58492059I'd eat Gardevoir's ass
>>58492669>Not relevant to your Pokemon Journey, therefore they don't need to be a location you can visitSure. Because cities between forests full of venomous creatures and species capable of shooting fire don't have the need to heal.Again. Is that paldean hospital in this room with us now? "Off screen", off screen my ass
>>58492686>based on morality.Then you should be able to show me where this "morality" exists, outside of the law.But you can't... Because it's just an abstract concept, it doesn't really exist.
>>58492694>So according to you, Machoke eating a Magikarp would be cannibalism? Because they can breed with each other, right? Do you even think before you type?Do YOU even think?What do you think matters the most when it comes to who you should eat or not, physical appearence or ability to fully communicate and breed with the target?Would you eat your family?
>>58492722Look up the definition of cannibalism. Post it for the whole class to see
>>58492722>What do you think matters the most when it comes to who you should eat or notflavor?
>>58492672Point the human hospital in this map."Not relevant for your journey" COPIUM
>>58492738
>>58491774They literally do>b-b-but it's "ethically farmed"This is cope and they're still eating Pokémon meat
>>58492750Where is the human hospital here you retard?There's no offscreen in Paldea you can see the fucking whole region.
>>58492738Is the human population in the pokémon world only a few hundred people because those are all the ones we see in game?
>>58492786Ah okay sorry. Not enough people to care about. Keep moving the goalpost.
End of the debate
>>58492797Answer the question
>>58492803Kill yourself, AI faggot, no one cares
>>58492804What question? There's no question to answer.
>>58492696Neither the player character nor any of their friends are never grievously injured, therefore you have no reason to visit a hospital for humans.Pokemon hospitals aren't relevant to your journey either, even with the prospect of a terminally ill mon, because the story establishes that Arven's Mabosstiff is beyond traditional cures and MUST rely on Herba Mystica, therefore, you have no reason to see or visit a Pokemon hospital.Also, does Paldea have a housing problem based on your "I don't see it, therefore it doesn't exist" criteria? Because as I said, the player character and Nemona are the only people in Paldea who actually have houses with interiors you can visit.
>>58492434>or that clefable is an alien from the moon?Why wouldn't it be? Deoxys is an alien pokemon too.
>>58492822OOOOOOH my badSorry, the human hospital is BEHIND THE FUCKING BATHROOM DOORS!They're connected like in Monster Inc.
>>58492844Where does Mew's truck get gas if we never see gas stations in the game?
>>58492162>Pyroar you'll eat tofu because the idea of seeing it eat a Skiddo is too scary.Would a Pyroar eating a Skiddo even count as carnivory?
>>58492162>What about carnivorous Mons? Fuck Pyroar you'll eat tofu because the idea of seeing it eat a Skiddo is too scary.Pyroar will eat inferior regular animalsThat way he can eat meat without having to eat a Skiddo that could be his half brother or his offspring
>>58492926But the regular animal is still connected to Pyroar because the regular animal is a creation of God, just like Pyroar. Therefore, he's still eating "family" in a sense.He'd also still be eating "family" if he went vegan, as vegetarian options are of God's creation too, and many plant-based lifeforms are living creatures, which is why a lot of Grass Type Pokemon are just sapient flowers and shit.
>>58492899It's a Pokémon not a plant.
With the idea that in the Pokémon world that humans eat Pokémon, as in much the same manner that how in real-life humans eat animals, and being seen as not unambiguously wrong. It's just one of the many contradictions in canon, and unfortunately for this franchise, there's plenty of those. It's mostly the result of several aspects relating to Pokémon being a huge several decades-long multimedia franchise.Here is a general idea on how to handle such contradictions. Just two main questions. First question, does the thing contradict more important parts of the franchise and/or the themes/morals of the franchise? If yes, then second question, are the most likely reasons for that being the case good reasons? Then, if no to the second, it's best to treat it as not canon.Humans eating Pokémon goes against the general ideas of the franchise, and is mostly brought up at all in the series for stupid reasons. So it doesn't deserve to be treated seriously. Like with some of the food that's meat being shown in Camp in gen 8 and Picnics in gen 9, they just didn't want to bother to remember not including meat for every new food they made for that new game mechanic. Another thing being Pokédex Entries, which even beyond this have many issues with them. You'll notice that the idea of humans eating Pokémon is being brought up less and less as the franchise goes on. Whereas, conversely, as the franchise goes on, Pokémon are shown more and more with human-level cognition at minimum, all Pokémon. The bond between humans and Pokémon is a major part of the franchise.https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_predation#Humans_eating_Pok%C3%A9monConversely, the idea of humans eating Pokémon by-products and other stuff produced by Pokémon is another matter, that idea doesn't face the same issues which killing Pokémon to eat them does.https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_predation#Food_produced_by_Pok%C3%A9mon
>>58492993>evidence in dex entries>evidence in item descriptions>evidence in npc dialogue>evidence in the ashnime>"b-b-b-but muh FEELINGS..."
Or maybe, we can all just accept that Pokemon is a franchise with dogshit worldbuilding that can't remain consistent for even five seconds, and constantly changes its rules on a per-media basis to suit whatever the writer of a particular scene needs in that exact moment and exact time, with little to no regard for the bigger picture, because only turbo autists will care long enough to notice the contradictions and inconsistencies, and when they point them out, everyone will point and laugh at the loser autist for getting so worked up over a children's game, since, as we know, children's media doesn't actually need to be of good, strong, logical quality, it just needs to shut the brats up long enough for mommy to get another swig of beer.
>>58492694>>58492722its just like praying mantises eating their mate, bros
The anime also had this episode about a cat breederSo dog/cat/bird/fish etc. are just words used to categorize Pokemon with similar characteristics, much like how we use those words for animals in the real world.
>>58492947But then you have mons like Oddish and the Roselia line that are literal plants... Like at what point is a grass type not a plant? I mean if its movement then venus flytraps?
>>58493053>sneasel>weavile>cats
>>58493021Being for children has never excused poor quality. Children deserve quality content.
Good thread. Highly autistic back and forth, but in the end everyone realized they're taking a children's monster catching game way too seriously.
>>58493028>just be a literal braindead bug bro
Why does it fucking matter if people eat pokemon or not? genuinely who gives a shit? i own a pet rooster and i still eat fried chicken
>>58493021>mommy to get another swig of beer.You mean down another glass of wine...Seriously you'd think that shit was nectar of the gods at the rate women devour it...
>>58493063True, but good luck explaining that to most people. Remember that the primary fixation of today's youth is Italian Brainrot, literal AI slop. That's how little people care about the quality of what their children consume.>>58493090Depends on how much government entitlement she gets based on how many kids she's shat out.
The Indian elephant to Copperajah retcon in PLA cemented it.Before that, we had LGPE retconning Lt. Surge form "Lightning American" to "Lightning Lieutenant".
Grok has spokenEating pokemon is immoral
>>58493088It's literally one of the only two things that truly matter (alongside if people fuck pokemon or not)
>>58493110>Grok has spokenSo nothing of value was spoke...
>>58492417>she was willingly giving the Litwick her lifeforce so it can be healthy.wtf?
>>58493079you will never be a pokemon
>>58493006You're unironically going "muh feelings" at me. Funny. You fail the counter how I said the concept goes against the franchisee's own feelings, and major ones at that. The whole idea of the bond between humans and Pokémon is a much more major aspect of the franchise than whenever they couldn't be bothered to not mention humans eating meat from and moments can't be bothered to care how much it doesn't make sense for the franchise.Pokémon is huge franchise with contradictions and retcons. It's stupid to say everything should be taken totally serious as canon. Have some basic media literacy.>>58493070Anon. What did you expect? Did you forget where we are?
>>58493176Who tf wants to be a pokemon.I want to be a pokemon trainer and date Diantha
If dex entries were canon all civilization would have been wiped out long ago. Entire maps have to be redrawn after one singular ttar gets angry, and that isn't among the 100 most insane examplesYou can accept the world as it is presented to you as canon, or you can accept the dex as canon, but the two are blatantly incompatible with each other
>>58493062Sneasel may be based on the weasel and the kamaitachi but it still has cat-like features
>>58493263>You're unironically going "muh feelings" at me.>You fail the counter how I said the concept goes against the franchisee's own feelingsI'm loling at your lack of self awareness. No, pointing to evidence in Pokemon media is not "muh feelings". Arguing that it feels wrong therefore the media is lying is "muh feelings".
>>58493300>are you saying that machoke eating a magikarp is cannibalism because they can also breed with eachother>animals/insects eating their mates is normal>wtf I don't want to be a insect>you're not a pokemon I wasn't talking about you>wtf I don't want to be a pokemonbrilliant display of reading comprehension itt
>>58493060It's a Pokémon not a plant.
>>58493501I think you replied to the wrong post
So one of the arguments against eating Pokemon is that they're more intelligent than regular animals and can understand humans. But we have several dex entries that points to the opposite like Lapras
>>58494091Latios also
>>58494101Even Pokemon as recent as Magearna still has the dex implying not all Pokemon understand humans
>>58491774Pokemon have been hunted for food since the beginning of the series
>>58494180B-but doesn't count... Because I said so!
>>58491774People eating pokemon is more believable than the FreakLeak
Even Mystery Dungeon had a Wurmple afraid that his partner was going to eat him.
>>58492073That statue was pulled directly from an illustration from Pocket Monsters Encyclopedia. Which is still canon as LA reconfirmed.
>>58494477Not really.
In essence I feel like this debate is kinda similar to picrel
>>58491800He's a schizo vegan poster, we get them every now and then just mock them and move on.
>>58492047Pokemon are literally treated with the same respect we give real life animals.
>>58494518Leftwing brainrot:>"This creature is stupid so having sex with it is immoral but murdering it isn't"Actual intelligent logic:>"This creature is stupid so anything goes"
>>58494721there aren't giant rock snakes in real life
>>58491800I dunno man, I'm not even a furfag but the idea just never sat right with me. To me the idea that these ultra powerful creatures that are nearly indestructible and are often depicted as being companions to humans are just being killed in some slaughterhouses for their meat just seems kind of silly
>>58494738Pokemon is a silly world
>>58491836>Curiously, this does imply the idea of non-Pokemon wildlifeNo it does not. There are as many fish pokemon as bird pokemon.
>>58492077No.
>>58492127Dumb white poster.
>>58492266China does that and they're perfectly fine.
>>58494727There are.
>>58494721Have you taken a look at ZA's plot?
>>58494740Not really, it's been made pretty clear that the only real difference between the real world and Pokemon is just that, that it has Pokemon instead of animals.
>>58495112>that it has Pokemon instead of animals.This isn't a trivial difference
>>58492738>No proof*yawn*I accept your concession.
They eat their friends because *pokedex/library legends that cite myth and legend as their sources*THEY JUST DO, OKAY CHUDGOD
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>>58492463>Do they all use specific facilities to wash and relieve themselves?pokemon do not relieve themselves with the exceptions of darumaka and turtonator, who are explicitly stated to be capable of shitting
POKEMON! DO! NOT! SHIT!POKEMON! DO! NOT!!! EAT!!!!! OTHER!!!!!!!!! POKEMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU
>>58491928Nothing outside the game counts.
I think eating Pokemon is actually quite fine to me. Would it have been an issue for me as a kid or if I was an autistic sensitive adult, sure. But I’m open to the idea of the world becoming more realistic. If the series wants to go back to its naturalistic roots, it’d be fine with me. As long as they sourced the Pokemon ethically. Still, you have autists like >>58495822 who have Pokemon as their comfort series so it’ll never be anything but vague.
>>58492385its just ohmori, PLA and ZA didn't have a food emphasis
>>58495822>POKEMON! DO! NOT! SHIT!(most) pokemon do not shit>Darumaka's droppings are hot, so people used to put them in their clothes to keep themselves warm. - darumaka's dex entries in white/x/omega ruby>It gushes fire and poisonous gases from its nostrils. Its dung is an explosive substance and can be put to various uses. - turtonator's dex entry in moon>Eating sulfur in its volcanic habitat is what causes explosive compounds to develop in its shell. Its droppings are also dangerously explosive. - turtonator's dex entry in shieldi think the realistic implication is that most pokemon can shit but it's much funnier to assume these two are the only ones that can
>>58495854NO NO NO NO NOTHEY DO NOT SHITTHEYDONOTSHITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>58491774So you’re telling me they don’t eat Magikarp? Ever? Why are there fishers in the games then?
>>58492465In the very same fucking episode we have them thinking about eating a Magikarp.
>>58491774some regions dosome don't
No one eats pokemonPeriod
>>58496032Even when starving they refused to eat itThat tells all we need to know about how willing pokemon world humans are to eat pokemon
Stop having conniptions over the idea that Pokémon are eaten.
