I have Rotom fatigue.
>>58500254I thought the Rotomdex was charming but I was always put off by the Rotom smartphones.
At least they tried to do something interesting with rotom dex and making it a side character. Rotom phone is literally just a smartphone that children should have no business owning in the first place.
I like rotom a lot but shoehorning the phone thing one of the worse things they ever did. Rotomdex was novel and presumably supposed to be a one time thing. Rotom phone is soulless and pretty much a tell tale sign of being lazy, no bothering to design something unique. Not to mention the moral implications
imagine the rotom breeding farms
Yokai watch has done so much damage to this franchise kek
>>58500272The PokeGear and PokeNav were already basically smartphones. Pokemon is one of those words that seemed "high tech" until the real world caught up to it
>>58500254#FREEROTOM
>>58500301Rotom can leave the device whenever it wants, it just has no reason to
>>58500254Why do they let cheeky ghosts that are known for misbehaving have control of their smart devices, I feel likes that asking for trouble, at least a few of them had to have taken a phone and just ran away for giggles.
>>58500310it’s like the animals we eat who are bred to be docile and braindead
>>58500323There was an anime episode where Rotom Dex gets forced out of the Pokedex and spends the entire episode trying to get back in it, possessing other devices in an attempt to Ash and co's attention, but fails because he can't speak human language without the Pokedex bodyAt the end, he says>I was so used to being in the Pokedex that the washing machine and the other devices just didn't feel right at allBeing inside the Pokedex/smartphone gives them more knowledge and the ability to talk, and they prefer that over being a regular Rotom.Basically, the knowledge and ability to talk to humans they get from inside a smart device overrides their natural instincts and makes them more "human"
>can never look at porn on your phone, use the phone while taking a dump, or have sex in the same room as your phone because rotomNightmare
>Gen 4>Rotom is a rare and mysterious Pokemon that can only be encountered at night in a hidden-away TV in a single location>Gen 9>every single person with a phone is carrying a Rotom around in their pocket at all times
>>58500381Except Ivor because he kept breaking his phones
Rotom is so overused that you’re constantly seeing Rotom phones and Rotom iPads in ZA but it’s not in the ZA dex
>>58500381PokéApple and PokéSamsung bred their own docile Rotoms.
where the rotom vibrators at
Hisui CHADS can’t stop winning
They were going to use Porygon but they wanted to be emphatic to the zoomers screeching about Kanto pandering and decided to use Rotom instead. You're welcome :)
>>58500375>using your phone on the toiletThat's how you get pink eye
>>58500524Rotom just being a Pokemon and not a phone in that game was peak
That ditto working overtime
>>58500541how?
>>58500254Same also tired of it being a phone. I don’t want a phone. Make having a phone optional like it is in real life and just give me a Pokédex.
>>58500659Having a phone is not optional in real life
>>58500608>>58500541it's not. Anon's disgusting poop fingers don't cause conjuntivites.
>>58500541You never heard of cleaning your phone?
>>58500254I actually really like the rotom phone as its a merging of pokemon and society. Like Pokemon as a setting is a wild cross between the flintsones and the jettsons. Every problem is either solved with high tech machinery or animal labor. Rotom phones are a cool way to merge the two.
>>58500254The pokedex peaked with ORAS and I say this as a gen 1/2 fanboy. The design is simply perfect.
>>58500296>Pokemon is one of those words that seemed "high tech" until the real world caught up to itI remember when watching the anime thinking it was so cool they had video calls on all their phone booths
Why not a HUD-dex? (augmented reality glasses or a helmet)GF lose the chance of surfing the VR trend long agoalso>no buzzsaw Rotom (Dark/Ghost)
>>58500775I agree, but I hope next gen isn't just a Rotom Phone with a fourth camera on the back. Even the tablet like Mable has would be somewhat different.
>>58500381It's called worldbuilding.
>>58500254Don't forget the annoying Rotom Bike in Galar. Everything has to be Rotom now...
>>58500524>>58500543The arcphone was even dumber
>>58500381>Legends Unova releases>it’s a sequel to BW2>Team Plasma is still around but their sole goal is getting Rotoms out of phones
>>58501805Next Gen apparently isn't set in Europe so there's hope
>>58500254Highly autistic but it's really lame how up until gen 7 all of the dexs were given clear toy-like designs, because they were literally being sold alongside the games as actual toysI assume they have been making Rotom dex toys but who cares compared to the old dexes, when it's just a tablet with Rotom's face on its back
>>58500275You do understand rotomphone is a thing, because kids are more familiar with smartphones than with the idea of a video game console, with NO big HD screen and all the control buttons formed into the shell, yeah?I mean, the 'dexes copied the Nintendo console of the day, but after 7, there was no unique-shaped console, it was a mini-tablet (and a tabletdex was a no-go, again the 'dexes ripped off the portable consoles to a fault). It's as much the modern tech landscape that's to blame - there's smartphones and tablets, everything's a rectangle meaning the games developed for kids are going to have tech they recognise. That they'd established Rotom like to enter machines meant is was a no-brainer to also put it in phones as a companion/assistant.
>>58502264They all based themselves on the console the games appeared in up to Gen 4, then they started ripping off slide-out/open phones for Gen 5 and 6, then did Rotomdex because Yo-Kai Watch in Gen 7. The issue is the console is now a tablet and phones are mini-tablets, so it makes logical sense for them to design the pokédex as an app, on a smartphone, because it's something kids would be familiar with and understand the presentation, the same way any kid with half a brain in the late '90's understood the toy 'Dex was big and bulky, because the OG Game Boy was big and bulky.
>>58500254I hate that stupid washing machine one, now gholdengo replaced it as the mon that gives me competitive fatigue cause of how stupid it looks, it's not even near the most annoying mon to face, just hate how it looks
>>58502201I mean, there's still phones in most places that would be considered for a region in a Pokemon game.
>>58500254Hey unrelated but I'm gonna shoot my shot.When I was a small boy I had a deck box for Pokemon cards, it was shaped like the Kanto pokedex. Does anyone know where I'd go if I wanted to find another? I wanna show up to a game of Commander with one.
>>58500254Man I wish they'd go back to the console-designed dexes, or at the very least the Johto flip phone. The complete lack of mechanical components makes it so boring.
>>58500667It definitely is optional to have a phone, even in current day
>>58500254Never fear, we now have the solution!>>58500426
This is a curious thing.So when you go to the Apple store and buy a new Iphone do you need to pay extra to get a Rotom along with it or can you just use the basic phone?Because this is basically an advance form of AI since you now have a sentient creature inside of the phone.Can you use it to battle or are they restricted to only remaining in your phone? If you change cell carrier do you need to get a new rotom?What if you go and catch a wild rotom? Could you put that in your phone or what if you alreayd have a phoneRotom how would it react?Do people also use them on home PCs?There are so many more questions you can ask.
>>58504350The anime showed a Rotom Phone store in Olivine City, so I think the Rotom just comes with the phone
>>58504365Okay thats actually neat.I wonder if you are actually the "owner" of the Rotom or if the store holds the rights to it?Do you get a pokeball for it or can it only remain in the phone?What if the Rotom you get is a lazy shit or a total freak who keeps downloading pokeporn? Can you exchange it for a different one?
>>58504365The Ash anime had Dr Cerise give Ash and Goh empty Rotom phones that he had to supply with his own Rotom from his lab.
>>58504371They’re definitely in a weird spot. ZA pretty firmly establishes that you can only have 6 Pokemon on you at a time (in the Spewpa side-quest the couple you’re taking to make you keep the 13th one, since they can’t have more than 6 each), but you can have 6 Pokemon PLUS a Rotom phone.So either the phone Rotoms are incapable of battle and thus don’t count for the 6-mons-per-party limit, or they’re effectively “rented” from the phone company and thus don’t count for the limit as you can’t use a Pokémon that’s not yours.
>>58500254what are the implications of tying a phone bill to a pokemonthe rotom possessing your phone could decide it no longer wants to be a pawn in goldberg's empire
>>58500342So Rotoms are just schizos
>>58504350>So when you go to the Apple store and buy a new Iphone do you need to pay extra to get a Rotom along with it or can you just use the basic phone?It'd be kinda fucked up to charge extra with all the safety features the rotom comes with. If it can stop you from falling to your death it can probably prevent a whole lot of other undesirable situations
>>58500254I just don’t like the concept of rotom phones. That is a rare living Pokémon just in EVERYONES phone. Are you the trainer? Does rotom have free will to leave? Does your phone still work if rotom leaves? Is rotom reporting your data to the CCP?
>>58502293Your right but I dont think anyone would really have a problem they simply made a regular phone design for each of the games. The problem is really just Rotom. Sure Rotom like to enter machines but for every single person in the city to have one? That's just absurd. I cannot suspend my disbelief enough to gaslight myself that every single person in pokemon world with some mind of device has a rotom in it. Its fine if only the player has a rotom because they met it somewhere or they explain it same with important npcs but mass producing it like this is the entire problem
>>58500254you can literally pinpoint when the soul was lost jesus christ man
I remember finding Rotom in Diamond and thinking it had to be some kind of minor legendary Pokemon since it was off in some side location with some strange events around it and just one of it was available, via a battle you initiate much like battles with legendaries. It was cool, really felt rare and special, even kind of spooked me a bit as a kid wandering a haunted house to find it while playing the game in secret under my blanket way past my bedtime. Then in Platinum you could shove it into appliances and it'd take them over as its own, really upping the special feeling of it. Fast forward to Sun/Moon and it's inside your Pokedex, quipping and pestering you, and it loses the mystery and magic it once had as a weird ghost that could hide in your housing wires and possess machines--now it's out in sunny not-Hawaii, treated like a funny gag--they say it's rare to have a Rotomdex, at least, and sure enough you don't see other people walking around with them. One game generation later, it's inside a phone. Everyone has one. It doesn't talk, it doesn't act of its own volition, it doesn't feel like it's actually a ghost possessing something. It's just not special anymore. It's basically just a sticker on a phone to justify it levitating instead of having a phone-holding pose/animation.In a way, this mirrors what >>58500296 said--with the proliferation of smartphones in real life, once exciting technological possibilities in the Pokemon world are flattened into boring mirrors of reality, and with the proliferation of Rotom in the Pokemon world, we out here in reality can't help but see it as boring and vaguely annoying now.
>>58505356Bingo. Geniunely it feels like some kind of excuse to make the phone's and progression of technology in the pokemon world feel more "unique" and different compared to our world but in reality its just obnoxious.
>>58500254Blame certain someone because he was insecure or whatever the hell happened back in 2013
A Rotom Phone feels especially redundant in Kalos, where even the original game had futuristic hologram communications......Pokemon world was supposed to be more advanced than Steve Jobs.>>58505402Yokai Watch and its consequences...
>>58500375We have rooted phones, I expect some people to derotom their phones for privacy
>>58500254This is my phone nowadays, I'm so glad cell phones went full circle back to flip phones. Maybe one day Pokemon will do the same if these get popular enough.
>>58500375You've never taken a dump in front of your cat/dog?
Having the Pokedex be just an app on a smartphone makes more sense then having the Pokedex be its own dedicated piece of equipment. It made more sense in older generations when the premise was that you were doing legitimate research into mysterious creatures but now it's been established that Pokemon have always existed and people have been studying them for hundreds of years so you're not really doing much research on them anymore. And they made the phone a fucking Rotom because otherwise it would've been too mundane for the Pokemon world I feel
>>58504437>life or death situation against wild pokemon>out of mons, about to get crippled or killed by a curse>"PLEASE ROTOM HELP ME HELP MEE">"sorry trainer, the requested iTom functionality is only available on iTom XL Pro 21">"UUUUAAAAARGGGGGGHHH" *dies*
I don't like Rotom Phones because that's just what everyone has now. The same design for Sword/Shield, Scarlet/Violet, and now Legends ZA.
>>58500254So do they have apple(rotom) stores full of rotoms enslaved and trapped in phones?This can't be ethical..
>>58500254I just wish they let us use the phone form in battle.There's like 3 or 4 Rotom forms that we don't get to actually use in battle.
>>58500270The fucker yapped NONSTOP in USUMI hate the rotomdex so fucking much because of that game
>>58506085Same, if it was Yo-kai watch they would have let you use'em.Even the Oni are usable, although it took a few games.
DONT YOU GUYS HAVE PHONES?!
>>58505890Pokémon are smarter than cats/dogs though
>>58500254I liked the Alola dex because it actually used rotom instead of being another tool
>>58500254i dont know why they even stripped rottom of mythical/legendary status. its easily one of the most retarded decisions
>>58507012It never had that status, it was just a rare Pokemon
>>58505899Yeah, it used to be that you were helping the professor learn more about Pokemon, but the anime and later gens made it so the Pokedex is more of a tool for trainers
>>58507012>i dont know why they even stripped rottom of mythical/legendaryIt's not.You can breed it in the daycare and hatch eggs.
>>58504350>So when you go to the Apple store and buy a new Iphone do you need to pay extra to get a Rotom along with it or can you just use the basic phone?There might be cheaper model that are just a phone but everyone and their mothers are able to afford the Rotom Phone so its possible that for some sketchy reason the Phone with Rotom could be cheaper since all the apps and shit rely on the Mon.>Because this is basically an advance form of AI since you now have a sentient creature inside of the phone.Not even AI. Its a critter with a Flintstones-style job.>Can you use it to battle or are they restricted to only remaining in your phone? If you change cell carrier do you need to get a new rotom?Given that you don't have a Rotom automatically marked in your Dex its probably not combat-approved. As for new phone/carrier there might be the difference between someone sending their phone in for repairs (which is getting new phone for your Rotom) or just straight out buying a new Rotomphone.>What if you go and catch a wild rotom? Could you put that in your phone or what if you alreayd have a phoneRotom how would it react?I assume that PhoneRotom had to be trained to wear the phone and work the apps. Basically like a dog getting trained for medical shit (except dumber since at least the dog isn't a fucking phone).>Do people also use them on home PCs?Depends on if the Rotom is treated like NetNavi or not. And if the computers are actually graded to handle Rotom possession.>There are so many more questions you can ask.Nah.
Everything is Rotom!
It would be cool in the future to have someone with a Porygon Z that crashes rotom phones.
>>58507576I still think that the Rotom Phones should've been the Porygon line. Because that makes more sense than a ghost possessing a frame.
>>58507609Rotom I think fits better because it naturally inhabits electronics and manipulates them. Porygon was more of "can man make a digital pokemon" did so, and then kept using upgrades on it which made it go haywire. Plus, we dont ever see anything about porygon controlling electronics, more than he was made on a PC.
>>58506892What's that supposed to mean? You only take a dump in front of your cat/dog to establish dominance?
>>58507609No you're just a retarded zoomer that doesn't what Porygon represents because you don't even know how filesystem folders work.
>>58508491my dog either doesn’t know what I’m doing or doesn’t care when I poop in front of himmy Rotom would know, make fun of me for it, and post pictures of me mid-dump to PokeXitter
>>58507098>rare pokemon>now just bred and sold in phones on every street >>58504365>hundreds of them sat on the shelves waiting to be boughtKEK
>>58500254Everything gen 4 introduced was a mistake. The series will never recover from DS garbage.
>>58509838Rotomdex wasn't a thing in Gen 4 bucko. Rotom was originally an analog-horror ghostmon that infected random abandoned appliances. The Rotom of Gen 4 and the Rotom of later gens is basically a different Pokemon in concept
>>58500997>tfw the shop ran out of the donut steel finish and you had to get a O-sea
>>58506892so? my cat solves math problems and writes novels but I still shit in front of him
>>58505890I’ve never had a cat nor dog…
Problem with Rotomphone is that you can't use a phone form to battle.For all intents and purposes just make it work like base form Rotom but with a different skin.
>>58510069I can kinda of accept that Rotom is just a level 1 weakling and just wants to be there and not want to battle. He's not in a pokeball so technically he isn't even captured
>>58510080>He's not in a pokeball so technically he isn't even captured>whatever company that makes rotom phones can take it back any time they want because it's not your rotom
>>58502293>because kids are more familiar with smartphones than with the idea of a video game console,while fucking playing on the video game console? Dumbass bootlicker.
>>58510197>forget to pay my phone bill>get a text that my Rotom license is revoked>phone floats away through my open window
>>58510561Everyone in the region losing phone access could make for a cool story, but Game Freak would never do it justice.
>>58505885get rid of this shit while there's still timeI regret ever buying it
>>58500775what sucks are the stupid skills like fall detection and whatever the fuck the double jump is called
>>58505373it's an excuse to not make an animation set of the characters holding a rotom phoneyou ever notice how nobody actually has anything in their hands they plan to remove? apparently it's really hard for game devs to do that
>boot up Motisma phone for a quickie before sleep>"BZZT! Hi trainer! What do you want to masturbate to today?" Just give me a normal phone please
Also the "spikes" on the galar phone case seem like they'd be way too annoying. Imagine placing that in your pocket, the thing would poke hole through it and will always have to be in some awkward position. Poké-Apple is washed.
>>58512654I honestly don't think I'd really give a shit if Rotom knew I was jacking off and what I was jacking off to, I don't even think a Rotom would care anyways>fapping before sleepdisgusting by the way, you're going to sleep covered in post-nut sweat
>>58512660I can only assume that they retract when in your pocket, and then come out when the phone is in use, like they're needed to be out for it to float in front of you or something. Either that or everyone has a belt clip for them like a decade or two ago, so the spikes aren't in a direction to hit you.If in your pocket, it must feel awkward for it to wiggle its way out to be used.
>game freak made a phone that floats so they never have to animate people holding it
>>58513352this is the real reason
>>58500275If anything it's true to real life. Pokédex's as a concept are electronic devices specially made for a specific task that can fit in your hand. Years ago you had the iPod, the Sony Walkman, pagers, daily planners/Blackberries, etc. In the real world most of these (besides graphing calculators ig) have been completely eclipsed by the existence of the smartphone. Convenience is king. I think it's fine for video games to reflect reality in this way.
>>58513352>>58513423i'd believe it. 100% sounds like something lazyfreak would do
