The "bed" scene of the short sparked two sides:>She's human-like so she should have a bed>Pokemon are pets so that's only naturalWhich one is more valid?
Gardevoir's have always had the ability to mind-control their masters, so if it wanted a bed it would've mindfucked it's master to have the bed
>>58520031Canonically Gardevoirs sleep on their kneesThey don't NEED a human bed.
>>58520031She should be in bed with her trainer.
>>58520031Gardevoir prefer sleeping either standing or sitting. It's akin to a royal guard sleeping over their prince/princess.
>>58520031It's a male Gardevoir albeit
>>58520141No such thing exists in official Pokemon media, especially now that Gallade exists. All Gardevoirs that appear can be safely assumed to be female.
>>58520031Gardevoirs are sentient, psychic creatures that are able to both understand and sort of say whether they want or do not want something. Clearly this means she's into being treated like a pet
>>58520170>>58520183Goontarded
>>58520170Wally’s. And USUM show that the original Hoenn games are still canon
>>58520186Blind retard
>>58520191Wally doesn't have a Gardevoir anymore, he has a Gallade. And USUM's Rainbow Rocket come from dimensions where the evil team leaders succeeded in their goals, so no, they're not canon.
>>58520170that's definitely true when its a female trainer but adaptations go even harder on matching trainer and pokemon genders than the games do. and on the whole it nips romantic implications in the bud in the context of a kiddy franchise.
>>58520199>but adaptations go even harder on matching trainer and pokemon genders than the games do.This is your headcanon. If this trainer's Ralts was male he would've gotten a Gallade. That's how this works.
>>58520208Gardevior can be male, sorry to tell you, you can still fap to it, you'd just be gay if you do.
>>58520031Neither are correct. That thing should ne in its ball.
>>58520223>Gardevior can be maleBut no official depictions will ever show male Gardevoir. I don't understand why you're not getting it. If media wants to show a male Ralts it will show a Gallade instead. Male Gardevoirs, to TPC, effectively do not exist. Ergo the one in Together with Gardevoir is female.
>>58520031Pokemon are pets, even the human-like Pokemon, and they know it
>>58520031pokemon cannot consent, why do you think they eat from dog bowls and are fine with being in ball-capsules?you’ll only end up feeling weird.
>>58520198>And USUM's Rainbow Rocket come from dimensions where the evil team leaders succeeded in their goals, so no, they're not canon.But they effectively canonize themselves by entering USUM, instead of existing purely as a hypothetical what-if. By virtue of existing, they PROVE the what-if exists somewhere out there in the multiverse.
>>58520031The only reason why anyone likes Gardevoir is because they saw Wally get one, and they wanted one themselves. It also helps the mon is pretty strong
>>58520252That hypothetical what-if might as well cease to exist the moment they leave it, and in the case of Archie and Maxie Hoenn was destroyed by Groudon and Kyogre, so Wally's dead anyway and we'll never see what he has there.
>>58520236because the trainer is male that would only be true if they were fine with all the jokes that the two are fucking which they definitely aren't. the gender matching is so partner can assumed to be best buddies instead even if they go ham on romantic languagGardevoir is also just mroe prominent overall than gallade in teh first place.
>>58520031Wasn't that the point? The beginning he treated Gardevoir like an object. Even throwing it in the back of the van. Then later put in the passenger seat
>>58520228Pokeballs are for adventure, or for really big pokemon.When you're at home then leaving your pokemon out of the ball is the normal.
>>58520031>>She's human-like so she should have a bed>>Pokemon are pets so that's only naturalIt's not even that. Gardevoir sleep standing up or kneeling. He literally does not need a bed.
>>58520286>kneelingThat's still contact with the ground.
>>58520031>Gardevoir frequently sleeps upright so it's able to protect people or Pokémon at any moment.Objectively speaking, unless you live in a walled garden paradise where nothing goes wrong ever, Gardevoir would prefer a sleeping arrangement that allows it to sit comfortably, that way it can awaken and immediately spring into action if it picks up on any signs of danger.If you did have absolute paradise however, a bed would probably be alright, since Gardevoir would no longer see it necessary to sleep in a reactive, defensive position as often as it normally does.
>>58520296Hence the mat for his knees.
>>58520265>that would only be true if they were fine with all the jokes that the two are fucking which they definitely aren'tAnon Gardevoir's flashback shows the trainer on one knee while affixing the Mega Stone to Gardevoir's hairclip and showing his Key Stone. It's clearly framed as a proposal, further hinting the Gardevoir is female. This is not hard to grasp.
>>58520254I like it a lot, ralts is basically wally in pokemon form, very weak and needs to babied into kirlia, then it becomes only semi capable, it also eats exp like crazy, you really have to put in work to get Gardevior and it finally becomes good, it's like a more involved magikarp.
>>58520322>its clearly [HEAD CANON]It was clearly, and literally, a man giving his pokemon a mega stone to hold. Are you proposing to Feraligatr every time you give him a mega stone? No, of course not. Stop being ridiculous.
>>58520331>and it finally becomes goodNo, no.
>>58520322the gardevoir is shorter than him so he was getting down to eye level. but matching their gender is exactly why they could do shit like that and always have plausible deniability.
>>58520031It tells me no one plays Pokemon sleep.
>Gardevoir sleep kneeling, due to their chest-horn making lying down uncomfortableBut sure, pretend the debate wasn't settled by Teraleak and everything else since isn't the seething of retards who lost, after fighting and being wrong their entire lives.
>>58520338Feraligatr is not frequently framed as a damsel character, nor has a species gender dimorphance so large as a completely separate evolution like Gallade. Stop being disingenuous, you already know all this.
>>58520351What did the Teraleak say?
>>58520353even after its waifuification gardevoir is never damselled. it is always the one framed as the noble loyal protector.
>>58520360It said gardevior lpves bugs in the anus
>>58520350why would i
>>58520353>Feraligatr is not frequently framed as a damsel characterNeither is Gardevoir. You're projecting.>gender dimorphance so large as a completely separate evolution like GalladeGallade is a separate evolution for Kirlia. Gardevoir itself has no dimorphism between male and female. You know this. You just don't want to acknowledge it because it ruins your headcanon.
>>58520388>Gallade is a separate evolution for Kirlia. Gardevoir itself has no dimorphism between male and female.I told you to stop being disingenuous. Because all Gallades are male, they are effectively the final evolution for male Ralts, which makes Gardevoir the final evolution for female Ralts. Again, male Gardevoirs do not exist to TPC, and you won't find an animated one.
>>58520353>Feraligatr is not frequently framed as a damsel character>Sirknight is a damsel
>>58520412Correct, Gardevoir is a waifu character. The flaps on its legs are described as like a dress, the green parts of its head are likened to hair and not a helmet. It's a loyal servant, but a knight character it is not.
Why didn't they still Gardevoir with ash in his championship run?
>>58520409>I told you to stop being disingenuous. Because all Gallades are male, they are effectively the final evolution for male RaltsNo, they aren't. Male Ralts can just as easily end up as a Gardevoir. In fact, it's more likely that they'll be a Gardevoir because Dawn Stones are required for a Gallade and are not a common item.>which makes Gardevoir the final evolution for female Ralts.True. A female Ralts can only be a Gardevoir. But this does not mean that all Gardevoir are female. As a male Ralts can evolve into Gardevoir.>Again, male Gardevoirs do not exist to TPCAgain, that is literally your headcanon.>and you won't find an animated one.The Gardevoir in the webtoon was male.
>>58520412Waifuviorfags don't actually like this pokemon.
>>58520447>The Gardevoir in the webtoon was male.Proof?
the gardevoir that sucked Oak into the black hole literally has an old man voice
>>58520420>Sirknight is not a knightThe hoops required to jump through to justify insane headcanons.
>>58520450Proof that it's female? No, conjecture or headcanons, only real hard proof.
TPC could have used literally any other Pokemon with a noble, protective personality and a Mega Evolution for this story but they specifically chose Gardevoir with a male trainer. Hell, they could've used Gallade. But no, they chose Gardevoir.Let that speak for itself what the intention was above all else.
>>58520480Female trainer with gallade is way hotter
>>58520454as canon as oak being obliterated through gravitational spaghettification
>>58520480That they used a pokemon known for its protective tendencies to act as its trainers knight in shining (mega evolution) armor. Yeah, the intention is clear.
>>58520470>Not a Gallade>Wears a wedding dress when mega evolved>Appears in official media published by TPCThere's no headcanon here, it's just reality. Male Gardevoirs are the true headcanon.
>>58520505Again, they could've used Gallade. It's just as virtuous and protective, and is even MORE of a knight in shining armor than Gardevoir is by virtue of actually using blade techniques, whereas Gardevoir is a knight only in name, because its techniques are more akin to that of a mage.
>>58520454The usual VA probably wasn't avaiable so they just picked someone random and just improvised on the spot.
>It will dedicate itself to defending a master it has come to adore. Its pure white dress, reminiscent of those worn by ladies of nobility, is the dress of one who is willing to risk their life.
>>58520520gallade isn't even half as popular as gardevoir would be the biggest reason
But why is Gardevoir so obsessed with protecting its trainer anyway?
>>58520526This is the new ZA pokedex entry.They're getting really explicit with the feminine view.
>>58520537Well every Pokemon will have its habits and traits as way of making them memorable.Having a Pokemon that's obsessed with protecting its loved one had to happen at some point.
>>58520541that's from legends arceus
>>58520541That's LA dex entry. This is the one for ZA>It has the power to predict the future. Its power peaks when it is protecting its Trainer. >When it opens the red plate on its chest and unleashes its heart, its strongest psychic power is released.
>>58520031Why do pokemon trainer hate their partner? A digimon tamer would sleep with his partner.
>>58520599See>>58520350
>>58520599they fucked, didn't they?
>>58520198He has a male gardevoir along with his gallade in Masters EX.
>>58520613yeah but Wally is gay
this argument basically boils down to>i coom to male gardevoir fuck you
>>58520613>He has a male gardevoir along with his gallade in [NONCANON FANFICTION]
>>58520621The opposite, since the main source material allows for male gardevoirs
>>58520613is this the first time gamefreak put a male gardevoir in anything?
>>58520631lol
>>58520637ignoring that wally's original ace was his male gardevoir in RSE. Beni's gardevoir starts female but then changes to male after the 3rd rematch for whatever reason.
>>58520621The opposite, actually. The femalegardevoirfag is trying to push the mega stone scene as a proposal while malegardevoirfag is not. Very telling about the "intentions" of each poster.
>>58520656he's definitely the meowscarada schizo
>>58520651First, a single female Gardevoir does not invalidate the existence of male Gardevoir. Second, prove that the Gardevoir you posted is female.
>>58520271He didn't know the Gardevoir was back there, she was hiding.
>>58520656How would you interpret that scene?
>>58520350Couldn't she kneel on a human bed? Why a dog bed?
>>58520741Because its not a dog bed.
im not going to sleep with a smelly pokemon on my room,pokeballs exist for a reason
>>58520715A trainer giving his pokemon a mega stone to reaffirm the bond that was shaken by their defeat at the earlier tournament.
>>58520480They used Gardevoir because their statistics showed them that it's highly popular, far more than Gallade. I doubt they put much thought into it beyond that.
>>58520763You misinterpreted the entire sequence of events, Gardevoir had her mega stone during the tournament. The crystal cave scene took place before it. After the tournament Gardevoir's trainer retired and took a job as a deliveryman.
>>58520779No. They wanted to sell merchandise. Found a semi popular pokemon without an appearance and made the short.Or someone found a warehouse of Gardevoir plushies and Nintendo needed to get rid of it
>>58520537Their species is into protecting others in general.>Gardevoir frequently sleeps upright so it's able to protect people or Pokémon at any moment.>True to its honorable-warrior image, [Gallade] has been discovered sleeping in a formal position with one knee up. Perhaps even in its sleep, it's preparing to fight so that it can protect people or Pokémon at any time.Maybe it's just part of their culture and they see it as a cool and noble thing to do.
>>58520580>This is the one for ZA>[recycled entries]Shameful.
>>58520464Or it could just be they changed Gardevoir’s concept over time to conform and pander to people who thought Gardevoir was a pretty lady, and not a knight
>No, they didn't pick THE girl pokemon for romantic undertones, that's just in your headlol
In gen 10 they'll make a female only kirlia evolution which has pigtails and wields a double bladed weapon, retroactively making Iron Valiant a fusion of three different pokemon: Gardevoir, Gallade, and the female only evolution.
>>58520940You wouldn't need a bladed weapon, Valiant's twinblade is formed from its arm blades, like Mega Gallade's. Just go all-in on Kirlia's ballerina motif with pigtails and a staff for a dancing Pokemon.
>>58520791That does reframe the scene. But at it's core it's still a trainer giving his pokemon a mega stone to affirm a bond.
>>58520919>>THE girl pokemon>50% male
>>58520998Starters have a 85% male ratio, yet some are still intensely female-coded. Is this so different?
>>58520096>It's akin to a royal guard sleeping over their prince/princess.That's absolutely precious
>>58520998Yes, she's either a girl (female) or a girl (male)
>>58520480Dumb frogposter.
>>58520031If the Gardevoir I caught as a Ralts in ZA was real I'd let her sleep in my bed and I'm not even a pokéfucker.
>>58520919>THE girl pokemonthis one you mean?
>>58521105Bellossum is the cuter plant girl.
>>58520031What do you mean by human-like? If by merely having a human-like shape, then that's not really that significant. If you mean how it's canon that all species of Pokémon have at least human-level cognition, then it may be just be that Gardevoir simply prefers to sleep like that.Pokémon have some aspects like that of real-life animals, and some aspects not. Sure, Pokémon can be pets, it's just not exactly the same as a real-life animal being a pet.>>58520273This. But some Pokémon may prefer to rest in their ball.>>58520998Gen 2 added Gender as a game mechanic. Gen 4 added Gender Differences. Being a single Gender species has affects on the game's breeding system.I would like for them to add a proper Male Gender Difference for Gardevoir.
Most of Pokemon's pet imagery is clearly a corporate mandate.
>>58520031what is this? why do I keep on seeing this random dude with a garde all over /vp/?
>>58523577https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JtuxmEiYl4
Alright so when are we getting that Tsareena or Salazzle episode?
>>58523594>明日もサーナイトとMy rudimentary knowledge of nip tells me that here says "Tomorrow too Sirknight/Gardevoir", am I right?
>>58520031>Big red spike that fucks up sleeping on back or front>Huge wide head with point bits that likely make side sleeping weirdIt's probably more comfortable to sleep sitting up like that, even leaning against a chair would be uncomfortable .
>>58520613ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? HE FOUND A SHINY RALTSARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??
How autistic can you be? She is female because I wanna fuck it, simple. She uses my bed because she got used after many fuckings, simple.
>>58520480>Gardevoir with a male trainerYou know if it were a female trainer we would just be getting the same reception from the fans but with yuri
>>58524594Yujiro...
>>58525035Yeah, but it'd be easier to see it as something innocent because not everyone is a yuri tranny.
>>58520254You're overestimating most Pokemon fans if you think they've actually played the games or even know what went on in them.
>>58520412>Sirknight is a NOT damselI mean, it fits both archetypes to be honest. Just because the damsel needs help doesn't mean the damsel is incompetent.
