Kalosisters... they're laughing at us again...
>>58529277There's honestly a surprising amount to do in the game imo. It's not the games fault that Joe rushed through it in under a day and has spent more time defending the game online than actually playing it
I would rather play xy than see threads about a random fag's tweet
>>58529277Are people saying this skipping every quest and research task?That's a pretty decent amount of content I feel.
>>58529277Imagine thinking dlc will fix this>>58529292Agreed but tbf the side quests are all pretty easy and can be done in like a 1 min if its a battle one
>>58529277I thought there would be more endgame quests, but for some reason you just get like 3 that unlock just like every other time. I think this pushed into it feeling empty more than anything>>58529302I always did side quests as they became available. They were a welcome sidetrack to doing rogue megas. I have to say it feels pointless to do them with you being able to just buy items from racine construction
>>58529315Yeah I agree a lot of the side quests are kinda underwhelming. I've still enjoyed doing them since I really enjoy the Legends games but the people who said it's an improvement over PLA's sidequests weren't accurate. Instead of a lot of them being catch this Pokemon now it's battle me but with x gimmick. There are a few good longer ones though that tell a story that I really like. But other than sidequests I'm at nesrly 55 hours and I'm only at rank C. Spent most of it just exploring, doing ranked, catching all the Pokemon, everything. There's a lot to do, but only if the world appeals to you
>>58529302Yeah the amazing side quests.>Bring X pokemon>Battle me>Battle this pokemon
>>58529292yeah he rushed and beat the main story in like 17 hours i played for like 37 doing sidequests and stuff before i got to the point you unlock wild zone 18 how ever far in the story that is, been hunting for shiny braixen since then been a week now kek
>>58529364The irony is that he missed a lot of the worldbuilding too since there's stuff in this game that you can't see anymore as wild zones change Lumiose, and NPCs move out of the area
>>58529277INVAITO HIM!
>>58529292>>58529364I have 100 hours in the game, it took me 50 to clear the story. Taking the time to do all the sidequests doesn't make a postgame appear. There's nothing to do except spam the infinite royale over and over or do ranked like that shitter Merrick says. And I don't really want to do ranked when it means grinding the infinite royale praying for a 1% chance at bottle cap drops.
>>58529277>they're laughing at usbuy asking to buy more content? That consoomer wants moar slop, not less
>>58529292I played with an incredibly chill speed, just exploring half the time, and still beat the game and all the side content in a couple of days. Getting from rank Z to B in the online play took me maybe eight hours of total playing. I would get to A, but I keep getting connection errors and it was starting to piss me off even before getting to B. I don't know how much more chill I could've played besides spending entire days just doing nothing but battling and walking around. Like, I would've really enjoyed at least one big side thing to do. A fashion contest. Pokemon contest. Digging for fossils in a mini game. Something else to pass the time other than running across rooftops, hitting crystals, and battle zones.
>>58529389
Every modern Pokemon game has had nothing to do in post game besides shiny hunt and play competitive. Joe is retarded or purposefully obtuse because he thought this would be a funny dunk on XY
>>58529450>if you ignore the things to do there is nothing to do!
>>58529538Every game has infinite content, as you can always speedrun it
>>58529277>Postgamefagging
>>58529277Merrick is such a tool
>>58529538You're quoting joe right? ZA has no more or less than any other modern Pokemon game. I'm saying this as someone who's played it for 150+ hours.
>the game has no postgame!>but if they put 5 extra routes that are exactly the same as campaign routes, take 30mins to clear, and never have a reason to touch again after I finish them, then it would have tons of postgame and it’s suddenly a masterpiece!Never understood this dumbfuck logic. XY’s postgame was fine.
>>58529582>oh so you think if they just added more content there'd suddenly be more content huh?
>>58529589ahahahah
>>58529589Postgame isn’t “more content”. It’s just content locked to after the credits. You’re literally as retarded as pic related.
>>58529277i don't see any reason why they removed pokemon breeding and abilities for this game. I hope it's not a mainstay for legends games.
>>58529621>more content isn't "more content". It's just more content
>>58529630>they took the exact same amount of content that was always going to be in the game but locked some of it so that means there’s more contentThanks for proving your retardation.
>>58529647>they took the exact same amount of content that was always going to be in the game but added more of it
>>58529647you know this is false. post game was additional content, not something removed from the main campaign.
>>58529647>BW2 has 50 hours of main game and then 20 hours of post game>Z-A has 50 hours of main game and then no post game>they're the same because they're both the amount of content in the game
>>58529666>BW2 has 50 hours of main game and then 20 hours of post game>Z-A has 70 hours of main game and then no post game>they're the same because they're both the amount of content in the gamecorrect.
>>58529277Didn't he defend SwSh back in the day for this exact same reason?
post-game should have been a different area entirely, like a route outside the city or something
>>58529680>Z-A has 70 hours of main game
>>58529415You don't need to get bottle caps for ranked anon. The main issue with ranked is that the rewards are shit once you hit rank A, unless you're lucky and get a rare candy as a reward. So you just play for the love of the game at that point
>>58529654>they took the exact same amount of content that was always going to be in the game but added more of it in the campaign so the game still sucks by my retard logic because it’s not after the credits>>58529659>not something removed from the main campaignThat’s precisely what Pokemon’s postgame is.>>58529666>BW2 has 15 hours of maingame and 5 hours of postgame>Z-A has 50 hours of main game and then no post game>BW2 has more content because some of it is after the credits for no reason
>>58529691>BW2 has 15 hours of maingame and 5 hours of postgame
holy yawn
>>58529666bw2 actually has 1 hour of main game and 0 post game because its so bad you turn it off
>>58529684Mario has no postgame so its shit.
>>58529930>What is special world
>>58529897Soul.
>>58529277Not really the place for it, but there's an interesting conversation to have about "post game" even outside of pokemon. At some point it feels like devs should just cut to credits an hour in just so everyone can talk about how much post game there is. The worst conversation I've seen about this is dragon quest 11, that game's second half happens after credits and people unironically call it "post game". No motherfucker, that's just act 2 of the game.
>>58529930Super Mario Galaxy has a whole post-game Luigi playthrough
>>58529951And Pokemon has a whole post-game where you play the game with another starter.
>>58529897Unironically, yes. You are starting to understand game design. This is why in Zelda games, they don't give you a giant list of what to collect all at once. They tell you, "You need to go into this forest and get a grappling hook. Now you need to get a flute. Now you need to recruit someone to sing this song for you. Now you need to find a flame orb and take it back to this tree you saw earlier to burn it."If you tell someone "Go get this hook, flute, singer, and orb" all in one go, it makes for a much shitter flow than introducing them slowly despite functionally being the same amount of content. This is why no one liked being told to get eight Triforce pieces in Wind Waker but didn't mind being told to get multiple key items, multiple orbs, and two people to sing with you in a dungeon.
>>58529979>This is why in Zelda games, they don't give you a giant list of what to collect all at onceExcept BOTW and TOTK, the most well received Zelda games of all time.
>>58529277Who cares about post game I stop playing after beating the elite 4
>>58530086Those games don't give you a giant list, though. Your mission log doesn't suddenly fill up with 100 quests at a time. It gives you a couple of main big story things to do, and then you're supposed to travel and experience the content gradually along the way. Even Z-A gradually unlocks wild zones because they know it would be lame if it was immediately available the instant you leave the hotel.
Completionist faggot here.If you go for a full living dex as you play through the game, instead of waiting until the end to spam ultra balls in fully unlocked areas.If you spend extra time to just fight through a few nights to level up new teammates.If you go out of your way to complete all the sidequests, and collect all the form variants of pokemon.You're looking at around 60-80h played to reach the basic ending.At 110h played, I have the full pokedex, minus a certain flower, 750/1000 battles for the shiny charm, and all side content completed that's currently available.If you complete all 20 infinite battle royale nights for the final content chunk, you will not have to, and should not attempt to, grind out the 1000 battles. You'll get there naturally.Game as is, for a super autismo, likely around 130h of content, not counting shiny hunting.I'm not arguing for, or defending anything, just giving people the raw numbers to make their own decision in a bait thread.
>>58530132>Your mission log doesn't suddenly fill up with 100 quests at a timeNeither does Pokemon. I guess that means XY is fine as is then and you're sperging over nothing.
>>58530145Most of the side quests show up as exclamation points on the map with very little discovery.
>>58529277>Even the biggest shills are seeing how shit this game really isAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA OH NOOOOOOOO
>>58529277Jesus if even Joe has to say this, you know its bad
I think that when it comes to Pokemon, the overall amount of replayable content is a lot more important than just "the postgame". Side quests are fine, but they're just one-off pieces of content that you can't experience again (without restarting the entire game, obviously).What I actually care about is replayable content that you can do over and over again. And Z-A has more of that than Joe Merrick thinks. Z-A has:>Infinite Z-A Royale>Rematching Rogue Megan Pokemon>Rematching the Restaurants in consecutive battles (Le Nah, Le Yeah, Le Wow, Sushi High Roller)>Jacinthe tournament infinite rematches>Trainer Customization>Taking photos of PokemonNow, I'm not saying that's enough, but it's more than Joe Merrick thinks there is. Furthermore, I really hope the DLC adds a PROPER battle facility (Legends Arceus had the Eternal Battle Reverie, so I imagine Z-A should get something similar).
>>58529292I wish the game didn’t mandate rushing to get so many Pokémon. If you’re a common pokeautist who likes to use a specific mon you gotta get there fast so you can use it on your team.
>>58529277ZAbros.....................................................
>>58529548You can also talk to every npc 1000 times and pretend it's a new mission like grinding infinite royale
>>58530386Replayable content that is the same thing exactly the same again with no changes, different challenges or different ways to experience is some of the shittiest repeatable content you could ever want. Customization and taking photos of pokemon is not "replayable" content.
>>58529966This just made me realise. I'm surprised Pokemon hasn't ever tried to do a New Game+ feature outside of BW2's weird key system. It's literally a perfect fit for Pokemon. I rarely replay games, including Pokemon, but I love the world of Pokemon so much that New Game+ would get me to play. Being able to restart the journey but have it harder would get me to actually start a new save file and replay the same game
>the number 1 GF shill dunks on XYYeah it's over. Just give up Yawnfag. Stick to SV shilling. No returning from this one.
>>58529277Oh you know it's bad when fucking Joe is calling out the lack of post-game.
>>58530706>>58530172With him whatever he's saying on Twitter is him responding to or trying to shut down a narrative. My only guess is he saw people saying the big new gen games should be more lime the Legends games. So he shat on it to counter that a little. Just my guess
gamefreak's ideas for post game content for ZA>throw pokeballs at the air until the pokeball returner guy has 99,999 pokeballs. Reward: 10 pokeballs>count the bricks on the walls of the city. Reward: 1 Protein, 1 Carbos>take 3,000,000 photos. Reward: 15 Leppa Berries>Release 50 level 100 pokemon, catch the same ones and level them back up to 100. Reward: 3 Rare Candies>Collect a combined total of 9,999,999,999 mega shards. Reward: 100 mega shards>Travel a total distance of 9 trillion miles. Reward: 100 points>Fight Jacinthe 9001 times. Reward: A pink fedoraAll of these are required to complete in order to obtain the shiny charm btw. Even though you can just leave your game on over night and they'll spawn.
>>58530777>get a drink 100,000,000 times at each cafe/restaurant/shop. Reward: a 1% discount on each future drink
That $30 dlc post game is 100% not going to be worth it
>>58529582Perception is reality. A game that gives you 10 hours of gameplay before the credits will appear and feel smaller than one that gives you 5 before the credits and 5 after. Game Freak was too lazy to even do the most basic of research.
>>58529277It's sad XY unironically has more postgame than plass2
>>58529277Post game is locked behind a paywall since swsh
