Only just struck me today that gen 7 is nearing a decade already, curious what people's thoughts on them nowadays. Haven't played them since release, they worth a playthrough still?
No.
>>58529449I like them a lot . Far from perfect but the cutscenes and Rotom don’t bother me. Some of the interruptions add nothing to the story. They also have the best boss designs by far in the series. Alola is super comfy
>>58529449The game that set the new tutorial hell and friendly villain shit we are going thru.
>>58529488That was Unova
>>58529492This guy was not friendly at all, wtf you on blud
>>58529449>they worth a playthrough still?No. These games are actually slogs to get through. It’s like they took a look at Gen 5 and amplified almost every shit thing it did with the excuse that people would excuse it because Lillie is cute.
>>58529449I haven't played base SM, but I recently played USUM and imo it is one of the best Pokemon games ever. Very content rich and extremely comfy.
>>58529449I've done 2 playthroughs, I don't like the game much at all. All the criticism regarding cutscenes, handholding, and strict linearity are valid. Play for yourself though, don't let me poison your well.
>>58529767To be fair, Lillie is really really cute.
>>58529449Play the game for yourself. 3DS emulation is easy. I played SM when it came out and basically dropped it immediately when I finished. I never even played USUM until years later on emulator. I did have a fun time going through SM on my first run. It does look very nice for 3DS and a tropical region always has chill vibes. However, I have many issues with it. Of course all the common complaints apply to this game of course, you'll know if you play it. It's also when buildings started to not be enterable. Hau'oli City is absolutely pathetic for one. Totem battles are cool but the island trials were very meh. The UI is digusting to look at and battles in general feel very slow imo. USUM is much the same. These games are better than their Switch counterparts but that's all I can really say
>>58529449USUM are probably the best a pokemon game has ever been for content, challenge, variety and fun. The fact you need to deal with a slog of handholding is criminal since the game is so good if you can look beyond that.SM also had the best story in the series that surpassed BW, but USUM ruined it so take it however you want.
>>58529488This. It sucks that the game actually put effort into its writing instead of lazily making the evil team kick a Munna to establish to toddlers that they're bad guys.
>>58530167>The fact you need to deal with a slog of handholding is criminal since the game is so good if you can look beyond that.If there's a romhack or mod that fixes this, then I'd say USUM is worth a replay.
>>58530167>USUM are probably the best a pokemon game has ever been for content, challenge, variety and funNah. Content? Variety? Seriously?
>>58529449The last good games. Sad that usum's story was butchered though since the game was better.
>>58530205>NahYah
>>58529449The least shit nugen, for whatever that's worth.
SM base story is one of the strongest in Pokemon, the general character conflict is novel and interesting and the setting and concepts (Ultra Beasts) are cool, all while retaining a pretty solid fun mood.USUM story introduces new concepts, primarily Necrozma, that are very cool in their own way, but takes a fat shit on the original versions story by essentially just rewriting it and handwaving any character conflict in the third act. However it also added so much extra side content, side quests, mini-stories etc that it's just so much more of a robust experience too.Perhaps I'm just used to it in JRPGs, but the linearity and cutscenes never bothered me. I've played other JRPGs that are just as if not more linear and cutscene heavy than the Alola games. So I've always felt this complaint was a little overblown, but I do recognise that some people who play Pokemon don't necessarily play more in the genre.Alola as a setting is great and probably one of my favourites. Very distinct, the tropical island mood was great.Lillie is one of the sexiest characters they've ever created. Absurdly erotic design. She excites my 30-something year old soul.
>>58529449No, they're awful, the worst in the entire franchise.
>>58529449Dogshit "saved" by the fact that the gen that followed it was even smellier dogshit
>>58529449They are still the toughest pokemon games to date.
>>58529449I've warmed up to them slightly over time, but only slightly. What was once a real distaste for them is pretty much now just apathy. I think there's some decent concepts, and I actually think it has one of the best Pokedexes of any generation. But they are just not fun to play. Every part of them that could be fun is peppered with a thousand meaningless interruptions that just turn it into a slog. I've played SM and USUM each once, about 5 years apart. And I doubt I will return to them anytime soon. All the Pokemon games before it, I've replayed countless times. And the ones after I didn't play, because gen 7 just killed any optimism and interest I had in the series going forward.
>>58530264>Perhaps I'm just used to it in JRPGs, but the linearity and cutscenes never bothered me. I've played other JRPGs that are just as if not more linear and cutscene heavy than the Alola games. So I've always felt this complaint was a little overblown, but I do recognise that some people who play Pokemon don't necessarily play more in the genre.not all JRPGs are like this though. I play a fair amount of JRPGs and my favourites are actually the ones that are light on narrative, like SMT main series and Etrian Odyssey. and the few narratively heavy JRPGs I do like, it's because I find the narrative compelling. I don't find anything compelling about Hau stopping me to talk about malasadas for the 500th time. it's just not interesting or engaging. if you're going to shove dialogue in my face constantly, you have to actually make me want to read it, and SM failed at that, for me at least.
>>58530644It failed for me as well. People keep saying the story is good for a pokemon game, but that’s just a funny way of saying the story is dull.
>>58530655For pokemon standards, sm does at least have a plot but the problem is that it's just so uninteresting and bland. A good, strong narrative should have players want ing to know more even if you have to go through a slog of cutscenes and dialogue. But instead wanting to learn about what the fuck happened with lillies family and whatever the fuck hau was doing i just grew more and more resentful of them hindering my adventure with their bullshit instead of wanting to help them. The problem being that Game Freak wants to design their games around a story without the writing skills to do so
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>>58530264>I've played other JRPGs that are just as if not more linear and cutscene heavy than the Alola games.The difference is that other JRPGs have actual stories and characters. Gen 7 has 30 hours of "Malasadas!" and "Back in the bag, Nebby!"
>>58530226>The last good games.that was BW2
>>58529449absolutely not, gen 7 is the most forgettable one, has the absolute worst dialogue/script, retarded multiverse plot and so on. it's more yokai watch than pokemon
>>58529916>I don't like the game much at all.then why the fuck did you play it more than once autismo
>>58530961>that was [bad game]
>>58530167I hate USUM so much for butchering the story pretty much the only thing I liked about SM
>>58530264kys pedo
>>58530737>For pokemon standards, sm does at least have a plot but the problem is that it's just so uninteresting and bland.> Game Freak wants to design their games around a story without the writing skills to do soExactly. If you're not strong at writing stories, the best thing you can do is actually have a very sparse narrative. Pokemon was at its best when it had a barebones story and a focus on worldbuilding over narrative. Gamefreak seems to have this idea that to tell a good story, they need to tell a LOT of story, but that's not how it works. If the writing is poor quality, then having MORE writing just makes it even worse because you're constantly being exposed to it. I would rather Pokemon have little to no story, than a big story told poorly. Gamefreak needs to realize that storytelling is not their forte, and that's okay. People fell in love with the franchise when it barely had a story, because of its monsters, the world that they created, and because kids could self insert and feel like they were on an adventure, and that was enough for it to become a phenomenon. Red/Green/Blue have the least story content of any Pokemon game, and are still the highest selling and most iconic games in the franchise and they've been riding that wave of success for 30 years. It doesn't matter that other JRPGs are story heavy - Pokemon doesn't need to be other JRPGs. It just needs to be Pokemon.
>>58529449SM yes. USUM no.
>>58529449It's the last good Pokémon game, only held back by its amount of cutscenes and inferior story compared to SM, and people who pretend otherwise are stupid faggots.
>>58529449If you can stomach heavy railroading then sure. It's worse than usual in Alola and there's several very clearly underbaked portions. It's overall an enjoyable game (as is the rest of mainline Pokemon in a vacuum) if you don't care about your own agency but if you already know the story then repeat playthroughs are going to feel like pulling teeth.
>>58529449Why does it feel 20 years old?It doesn't feel like it's 10 years old to me, like it came out in 2015.
>>58530226>>58530961While I agree BW2 was the last good one. 7 did feel like it at least tried and wasn't as shit as 6.
>>58531779I didn't say XY though
>>58533367Why was XY so boring. It's the only pokemon I've stopped playing just bore the elite 4. I just went "yep I've had enough". Though I also dropped Arceus and SV. Those just lacked the complete madness of some of the earlier pokemon games. XY had some of it, but I guess it just wasn't cooked right. Gen SM and even SS did better.
>>58533401it was more interested in showing old stuff in 3D than it was in anything new it introduced
>>58533228USUM came out in 2017, it's only 8 years old.SM was 2016
