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As stated in the last thread, I tried to compile a list of hacks that aren't enhancement stuff & are finished and of a somewhat quality: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mZrRXlkq0ZmBr7Zzglb1Zer_JuJoTUWckrtRP0ROWCU/edit?usp=sharing
I advise you go into View & set Text Width to Wide.

Since people have been complaining about the pastebin maybe this can be a little companion-piece to it, but it's still a WIP & only Gen 3 for now. I'm sure most of the descriptions can be improved too since I've played very few of these, and if something should be added (or removed kek) I can do that. Let me know your thoughts crew.

>>58531183
I would consider Aquamarine, Fuligin, Giratina Strikes Back, and Kanlara Ultimate. I think those all qualify.

>>58527111
Why not make the MC Daisy's son or daughter.

Being the protag son is kinda lame, you could make more just making use of the world already created like for example Bill and Daisy are married and they had a child.

>>58531183
>Pokemon DarkViolet
Goddamn I like this one, I wish it were remade using pokeemerald but alas..

>>58531218
sounds good, i'll look into them and keep em in mind. Basically anything goes as long as it's finished and original.

>>58531183
Definitely can't have a hack compilation without Emerald Rogue 2 (1 is also pretty good)

>>58531183
Nice work

>>58531183
Respect for making this anon, more centralized resources for learning about different hacks are always a good thing.

>>58532159
this site's a pretty good resource, dunno if people here know about it. I was gonna put it in the OP links at some point but the web address is stupid long and trying to shorten it gets flagged as spam:

https://pokeromcodex.notion.site/8f188f1761b9430f9adb68833c44e5b8?v=bb31503a729442f798b4233509dacab8

this hasn't been updated in years but was good too:
https://gbahacks.blogspot.com/p/completed.html

>>58531114
The megas look a little rough desu

>>58533534
Nameless is pretty rough in general, respect to the creator for pumping out content nonstop but nothing in that series ever stood out as particularly polished

>>58531183
Pretty nice to see! Emerald Z caught my attention (never heard of it)

>>58531183
>muuhh difficulty hack.
There are quite more developed anď you made that kind of list.
Remminder you have other hacks of demakes quite well done.
Well seeing how you avoid your native language hacks is laughable that you don't mention them.

>>58534729
I've already played Kanto a million times, make something new.

>>58534776
Learn to read i was mocking that anon doing the list that ignored other countries hacks and went full retard kanto.
>sword and shield gba : not mentioned, made by brazilian.
>scarlet & violet : not mentioned, made by spanniards.
>legends arceus : not mentioned, made by spanniards
>legends Z-A : not mentioned made by brazilian.
>let's go pikachu & eeve : not mentioned made by spanniards.
>digimon ruby : not mentioned made by chinese.
>palworld : not mentioned made by chinese.
Yet the anon didn't even mention them and went same kanto difficulty hack.

Wake me up when the Kalos starter Megas get added to XY.

>>58535093
Well the language barrier can be annoying, the palworld one looked great with good sprites and the sprites got used by dorkly i think people started assuming palworld was chinese by that gba hack (the company making the game is japanese).
Well hope we get more hacks instead of "just another difficulty hack".

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A friend of mine is working on a Gen 3 romhack featuring Fakemon. Here are the starters.

The idea of actually making one of these seems impossible, let alone without a team or being a highly driven renaissance man
I will thinkmax until a game magically forms out of raw mental energy

>>58535788
>First and Middle stages look better than the final stages
Your friend is doing great emulating Gen 3 so far

>>58535788
Ohhh they look pretty good I would say, your friend (if real) has talent

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>>58535927
>>58535917
Thanks! Here are (planned) back sprites for all of the Fakemon.

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Are there any romhacks with gen 1-9 pokemon and also doeos anybody remember any old romhack that had the the pokemon XD mc in the cover and shadow lugia

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>>58535788
Friends with this person?

>>58536055
Hard to appreciate the designs with onto the backsprite but so far I like the Plant-Hydra 3 stage, the shrimp, nautilus, arbok looking mon and the eels

>>58536327
I think he is just following him, hacking communities specially japanese ones are quite closed.
>>58536275
Well there are a lot (if you don't mind the language barrier), there is the scarle and violet hack that has all the mons along map and all the goodies, then you have fire red extended with all the mons but is quite shitty due to the whole anti cheat of you use save editor because author thought "i have an idea will add more trainers because difficulty is quite easy by default" and then went full retard by checking the rom on hexmaniac with author going "i will make brook a bit more challenging he will have 3 mons at lvl 45, misty is too easy so i will add a few mons that she had according to gigaleak so i will add her a machamp at lvl 50 along her classic mons like psyduck, starmie and staryu at lvl 65" and similar shit like that.

>>58536403
>>58536327
https://twitter.com/pokereplica/status/1722893141173559789
Seems to be 1:1 with the backsprites so...

I must say nice fakemons designs tho, I like them

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Are there any Pokémon Red/Blue hacks that add the option the option to play as a girl that aren't also rebalancing hacks? Something as close to the vanilla experience as possible basically (stuff like making all 151 Pokémon obtainable in-game is fine as it's a given in any ROM hack).

>>58536436
You could do that yourself pretty easily.

any good gen 5 style city tilesets? preferably with outlines.

>>58536461
I have no previous ROM hacking experience so I figured I should at least try asking before setting out to do it myself.

>>58536493
There is one i think was called pokemon pink or something, was simply adding girl sprites for trainer while keeping all the same.

>>58535788
Holy peak.
Would use all 3.

>>58532479
Ahhh yes the codex. I know about it, but I'm sure others here don't. I think putting it in the OP wouldn't be a bad idea.

>try out that rejuvenation v6 copy that was mislabeled as v12 that got posted last thread
>random wild pokemon take 10 seconds from start of encounter animation to being able to flee
>no speedup
i think jan switched brands of padding-related suffering

>>58535788
>it just gets bigger
they're fine lol

>>58531218
added all four :^)
>>58531541
added "Emerald Rogue", which is what it's called on the pokecommunity page. Is there 2 separate hacks? Let me know, but I'll assume "Emerald Rogue 2" is just the expanded update to the original hack.
>>58531840
>>58532159
thanks :^) was mostly for myself but figured I'd share anyways since an anon asked.
>>58533098
>>58532479
woof, will try to look through when I get a chance.
>>58534504
the fakemon in there are quite cool I think, enjoy if you end up playing.
>>58534729
most of the hacks I listed are new regions lel, also sorry but I'm not ESL, I don't know much about that scene, but will try to add any good quality hacks for sure.

>>58531183
It'd be cool if we got a Wiki but good, for this sort of thing...

something like Dustloop/Miraheze but designed to be useful for categorizing hacks, organizing reviews of them, and hosting documentation on them.

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>>58531114
This Pokemon type chart needs work, does anyone have any ideas on ways to improve it?

Fire seems OP.

>>58531183
Did you play all of that?

How impossible would it be to port the battle/animation/dialogue speedup (without negatively impacting the music) feature from emerald rogue into other romhacks or even the vanilla games

>>58538451
definitely not! hehe.

>>58537964
I'm glad you asked...

Noise Type!!

Super effective against: Water, Steel, Ghost, Fairy
Not very effective against: Bug, Ice, Grass, Psychic.
Weak to: Bug, Poison, Psychic, Dragon.

>B-but, P-Prism and T-T-Tourma-
I came up with this independently, fr fr, they actually bit it off me, even though I never posted it anywhere ever.
>T-these type matchups don't m-make any se-
Cry about it, this is the kind of balancing that will revolutionize the in-game META, leading to a veritable Renaissance of PVE excitement.
>Who are you quoting?
I'm 10 steps ahead always, something like Nikocado.

>>58536401
To see their front sprites, check her account.
https://x.com/pokereplica

>>58538986
If GF added Dragon and Fairy there's no reason to not include Angel/Light type or Orc type

>>58537791
>new regions.
>difficulty hacks.
Choose one, those mentioned are quite good and translated to english at least older versions, the only thing is they use spanish rom version as base so can't be modified as easily with current tools and they release patched roms which seems to be an issue here even if they are 20 year old games.
Well is just seeing the list since are mostly patches of hacks and not prepatched roms.

>>58539002
>new regions.
>difficulty hacks.
>Choose one
This is openly false

>>58538987
Yeah I know, I'm >>58536415
Still thanks anon

>>58538986
>Noise Type!!
Never been a fan of Sound/Space types, Sound is already a subcategory of moves, it would need heavy rebalancing for both moves/mons/abilities. However I do agree with >>58539000 a Light type would make sort of sense since all the traditional RPG elements are already covered

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https://mega.nz/file/pmAzWTQZ#8fZ8VFtJbuxBN1KfCSvbwm1DLbew7qNYdmzsMjJqJX4
>>58537140
>v6 copy
V6 ended at Amber. V-12 has a considerably different story in Act 2 than any of the official versions (e.g. no Puppet Master, no Bad Future) and goes up to Saki (who is badge #12 here instead of #15).
>no speedup
use this, essentials default is 40 FPS and the turbo in rejuv is 200 FPS
https://himeworks.com/2014/10/rm-fps-control

>>58540464
strange
the copy I have has "version 5" on the splash screen
and the readme says version 6
i downloaded that one you just posted and it's also the exact same, down to the filesize
and the latest asset modified dates are in 2015 or 2016 at the absolute latest

>>no speedup
>use this
i've just been using cheatengine speedhack as my go to for anything without speedup (or needing more speedup)

>>58540677
>v5/v6
I have no idea about this discrepancy, but this is the old dev build. Jan probably changed the readme but didn't change the splash screen before deciding to move onto a different build location.
>exact same
yeah it's the exact same link too, i'm the anon who posted it last thread
>cheat engine
yeah fair, just thought i'd post the fps control thing for other anons that don't want to use cheat engine for any reason

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>>58540711
guess I'll just chalk it up to the usual "jan is bad at game development" and "this is an insult to typewriting monkeys" reasons then
Anyways did you know that the version that got posted has an early game infinite money exploit because Jan forgot to make at least one sidequest end event not become inert after its nominal completion
On a less funny note, there's at least one bug I've encountered that'd fuck up your game if you didn't have debug mode on to walk through walls with

>>58541043
i didn't know about that exploit, that said
it doesn't have the "how the FUCK did he forget to remove this" exploit that existed in V1 (was patched in the version that he posted on X several months ago) and V2.0 that allowed you to get a "M14/Eind" Victini through Mystery Gift.

>fuck up your game if you couldn't W2W
oh yeah the main Kristolica Palace map has had all of its events removed for some reason so it'll softlock you if you don't replace it, lemme find an earlier version's Map145.rxdata

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>>58541112
checking those singlets
also I refuse to believe that v12 is this old with this little polish
here is a trainer backsprite that is twice the size it should be

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>>58541112
the main map is from V6 with all of its events removed while the other maps under it are all from V5
the outside "Deep Sewers" map is also from V6... but links to the V5 map's starting location? no idea wtf is going on there, just replace the one in the V-12 folder with the V5 version of 145.rxdata

>>58541177
i don't have both versions you're talking about
just upload the map replacement to mega or something

>>58541173
yeah there are a bunch of sprites that are double or half the size they should be, e.g. the black female MC sprite, i have no idea why or how Venam's backsprite is double the size though
it's the dev build of a LITERAL nigger that has 6 entire extra versions of rushed beta content that he worked on solo. you can at least give credit for the fact that he wasn't begging people for patreon buxx- oh wait, you need to pay him to get access to this dogshit and you get banned from the subreddit for talking about it (even though all of the text in it is accessible through datamining V5)
he was just writing tons of stuff without going back to polish it, this is like if ame had a secret dev build of E18 with a considerably different storyline in the Chrysolia Region, then when he got a dev team he didn't tell any of them about it and decided to make the narrative head to the Agate Circus instead of his original plans

>>58541218
https://mega.nz/file/13JGnALD#VueB66bejeLU-RnanLB8o1CU-9ikBPoGeKuOzCGe1BU

Anyone ever made or is making a shiny/living dex in Unbound? How well does it accomodate that autism? If i remember right its Dexnav feature basically eliminates IV grinding

>>58541535
Shiny Charm + 50/100 chain with max research level is a 2% chance at a shiny and 3 guaranteed 31 IV's + Egg moves. It's the most balanced system these romhacks have for shinies. Treats it like a real video game and not whatever fucking inane nonsense Elite Redux has (i hate Emerald Enhancement hacks)

I'm playing the spanish Rocket edition, I was told that I might find vulpix outside the rocket warehouse, is that true? I found the other pokeymans.

I'm fairly new to Rom hacks and I haven't played Pokemon in a while. What is a recommended Johto hack with a modernized feel and QoL stuff like pressing R button for a pokeball etc. Mostly looking to replay the Johto story as I never got around to playing it way back then. Preferably GBA graphics.

>>58541657
True seems to be a rather low chance though, took me a while only to get a Houndoom egg a few minutes later.

>>58542507
I autistically grinded out my team to beat Red only to find out the world breaks when I do that so I fight the super nerd again and then Red again. At least the other version kinda recognized that you won despite hand-waving it....

>>58542492
Heart&Soul literally just dropped and it's a Gen 3 demake of HGSS, not sure if it has R button throwing but it's easily the most modernized version of Johto.
Scorched Silver also exists but it's a sequel to the original games that adds every Pokemon and some extra areas, so if you want to play the original Johto story it wouldn't work.

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>>58531114
I haven't played a Johto game since I was a child, and I feel like going back and playing that one.

Can you recommend the best Johto Enhancement hacks?

Preferably without any amateur fiction hallmarks like generic evil teams relying on edge and shock value to cover a lack of substance, OC partners/rivals who steal the show during cutscenes but never help during gameplay, and a story that gestures at safe ideas we already collectively believe in without meaningfully exploring them.

And without any amateur game balance mistakes like thinking you balance a game by giving every Pokemon ever access to the best signature moves ever and give the player easy access to the strongest Pokemon ever as early as possible.

Could I also get balance feedback on my updated Type Chart? I decided it was cooler if Steel and Dragon are Super Effective against each other.

Anything new from nihonga anon?

>>58542740
>OC partners/rivals who steal the show during cutscenes but never help during gameplay
I fucking HATE this trope with a burning passion

>>58542740
Wait until Drayano KEK releases KEK Aurora Crystal kekekekekek

>>58542753
We should make a bingo board with all the cliches we hate.

>OC Partners/Rivals/Gym Leaders/Champs steal the show during cutscenes but never help during gameplay, not even to keep enemy grunts out of your way or block escape routes
>hero only wins by disproving author's STATED ideology
>quirk chungus obese womanchild whose personality traits is consuming media, pretending to be happy, and imitating her favourite underaged anime girl
>side-shaved impotent rage-machine woman who thinks she's too tough for human connection and compassion and family sold as a "strong character" and not a victim of society's retarded backwards idea of who's strong and weak. No, you can't write a 90 pound woman like a 240 pound drill sergeant and expect me to take her seriously.
>political issues raised during the story are forgotten entirely because "war is bad and conflict must be avoided and we need healing and forgiveness" must be pushed for maximum cynical profitseeking even if it means the abused underclass must shut up and go back to work for the abusers.
>story sidesteps all political issues raised in the first 90% by making the evil team leader a lying cynical cackling supervillain whose movement dies with him and he was probably solely responsible for the problem his people used as motivation anyway. It literally only worked with Chairmen Drek, stop giving us shit like Amon
>religious guy who wants to return to tradition never gets a chance to say what his people's ancient traditions are before he becomes a cackling supervillain satanist Nightmare Moon knockoff who wants the night to last forever
>idiot authors only know how to make you like a faction by immediately declaring you its leader. Your underlings then proceed to order you around and give you missions you cannot delegate or reject. Either have characters acknowledge you're a charismatic politically useful figurehead leader and not the one calling the shots or don't write it like that.

>>58542740
Polished Crystal is my go-to if you want a ton of QoL enhancements and all the new content added in HGSS

When will the Z-A Megas be added to hg-engine?

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>>58542740
https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-pure-heart-pok%C3%A9mon-true-soul.526956/

>>58542813
have you played a single video game besides pokemon empire

>>58536436
Shin Pokemon. It's really the only one out there that has no re-balancing and doesn't jack with the meta. Bills itself as a "what if" kind of re-release or remaster as opposed to someone's fanfiction idea of "here's how I made gen 1 perfect".

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>>58542563
>Heart&Soul has exp share for the whole party right from the beginning

Now that's what I call QoL improvement holy shit is that nice

>>58531114
>plays Pokemon Heart And Soul
I wanted a challenge so when accepting challenge limits, I said my Pokemon cannot level past the lowest level Pokemon on the foe's team.
Also I have no EVs, foes have EVs scaling based on badges, and we all have perfect IVs.
I played the game up to the Falkner fight, killed his level 8 Pidgey, then got killed by his level 11 Noctowl who two-shots everything I have, even the Onix I traded a Bellsprout for.
I have no methods of changing my strategy or using TMs or HMs or trade evolutions or different party Pokemon.
The only Pokemon I have who should beat Flying lack any Typed moves that beat Flying.
Nobody resists Flying except Onix the useless bastard.
I'm fucked.
Can't change the challenge rules without restarting and undoing all that time trying to catch every Pokemon on the way here.
I'm fucking softlocked because the retard who designed this game didn't playtest.

>>58543384
Challengefags keep losing, lol

>>58543384
KEK! fucking deserved you retard, try the debug menu

>>58543384
I tried again stacking my team of level 8 babies with electric-type Pokemon. Mareep and Pichu are my only options. Mareep knows zero electric moves at level eight. Pichu is a weak piece of shit who dies in 2 hits from Pidgey and 1 hit from Noctowl. I cannot progress any further than this town until I beat the Gym Leader. It's over, and I don't feel like redoing the last half-hour of gameplay on an objectively worse gameplay setting where all my Pokemon overlevel most of the Gym Leader's team and steamroll them.

>>58543393
You are disabled. If a game designer builds a challenge into the game, it should be possible, otherwise the designer is a subhuman retard. Fnd a word with sixteen letters in this sentence. That's your challenge. It's impossible, of course. You can't find that word? Too bad, retard, you're just a failure. Admit impossible challenges are bullshit.

>>58543408
Debug menu? Yeah, how about I open Pokesav and set my Totodile to level 30 while I'm at it? How about I hack the game myself and fix it for the cunt who made it?

>>58543436
>>58543408
>>58543393
>>58543384
The pedotranny who "made" this game (mainly stole from other developers) disabled debug mode.

Probably because too many people cheated past shit design instead of enduring it, or broke their saves cheating then complained because they're brown.

>>58543462
Huh, good thing I played the first demo then, debug menu was still accessable

>>58543384
Grind money by selling acorns/berries, sell all the items except potions, buy as many potions as you can and just keep healing yourself until Noctowls PP run dry then just whittle it down

>>58542813
>side-shaved impotent rage-machine woman who thinks she's too tough for human connection and compassion and family sold as a "strong character" and not a victim of society's retarded backwards idea of who's strong and weak. No, you can't write a 90 pound woman like a 240 pound drill sergeant and expect me to take her seriously.
That sounds like Titania from Reborn (kinda)

>>58543677
i'm pretty sure just starting an entirely new run would be faster

>>58543677
One of the challenges I accepted was to never use items in battle.
This is bullshit. If a game offers a built-in challenge it should always give you the tools to beat it. That's game design 101. That's a lesson they might not even bother to teach in game design school because they assume it's obvious. What kind of retard adds a mode like this to a game without playtesting it? If I play without it I'll just end up overlevelling most of every Gym Leader's Pokemon anyway.
Fuck it, I'll play something else.

>>58543843
Go play Scorched Silver

>Guy remakes Gen 2 in Emerald by himself
>Releases ROM hack as open source so it can be used as a ROM base for other hackers to build on
>Some asshole who has never built or contributed anything in his miserable life has an autistic meltdown over an optional feature not working right, instead of fixing it himself or at the very least reporting the issue to the dev
What a faggot

>Fuck it, I'll play something else.
Nobody cares

>>58543865
You're the faggot who made this?

Kill yourself.

>>58543865
we don't sign our posts here

>>58543865
I reported the issue to the dev, that nigger banned me from his trannycord.

Is it even a remake of HGSS? I gave myself a Beldum and it couldn't even learn a physical psychic move

>>58543865
Also, you didn't choose to release it as open source. You had to, because otherwise you couldn't steal from open source github projects.

>>58543941
That never stopped any of the other FOTM hacks.

>>58543889
>Calls dev a tranny
>Surprised when banned

>>58543941
>otherwise you couldn't steal from open source github projects
Nothing forces you to share your source code even if you utilize code written by others.

>>58543957
Not on this site, of course. But lmao, imagine being such a cowardly pathetic tranny you ban someone asking for help on discord because you suspect he's the guy on 4chan calling you a faggot.

>>58544025
this is just a retarded idea
good and bad ideas can come from anywhere
ignoring good ideas because they come from somewhere you (were told to) dislike and accepting bad ideas on the basis of someone you like saying so is retarded

>>58497638
How the hell is it that there isn't a single free to use battle sprite for Bede? This is really bothering me since It's starting to get harder to find trainers to fill the mono type niches.

>>58544084
Fix your game. That's a good idea.

Ban critics? Retarded idea.

Make someone a critic by banning him for asking for help? More retarded.

I still have your game, I just don't feel like playing it.

I don't know why trannies get up their own ass about needing to feel respected and validated at all times. It's not my job to perform emotional labor for you on command, eunuch.

The game has a difficulty modifier? It should be playtested.
Level 8 Ghastly will only help me in this battle if Falkner has zero non-Normal Type attacks.

>>58544548
You're a scumbag, big shocker the dev wouldn't waste time on you.

>>58543384
>i wanted a challenge
>so i made all of the enemy trainers have 31 IVs in all their stats, gave them scaling EVs, prevented myself from being able to gain EVs, and i can't level beyond the lowest level mon on the gym leader's team
>cries about difficulty instead of admitting that you bit off more than you can chew
this is what you get for disabling EVs on your side and enabling the "HARD" level cap, don't complain when you have actively made the game as hard as possible without literally PULSE2ing the enemy trainers
even fucking "hardcore" nuzlockers use the HIGHEST level mon on the gym leader's team as their level cap, not lowest level mon

>>58544254
Just use public ai, create image, downsize, edit a but, done new sprite.
Is not that hard to do.

>>58537791
Emerald Rogue 2, is an incredibly "updated" sequel hack built from, I believe, entirely different code. Honestly, it's so much of an improvement that you might as well add it instead of the original. The Pit is another roguelite take on pokemon that plays quite a bit differently (less super hard boss trainers but no perma death, much greater focus on health items, and limited opportunities for catching new mons).

>>58538986
>>58539961
Compromise and have a "Wave" type? Both sound waves and light waves (all across the non visible spectrum) can be fitted into one type. They can still embody the more spiritual aspects of light and music while also fitting the scientific aspects. Earthquake and magnitude might be a little weird and overlap slightly as well as the traditional sound moves (and a few light adjacent things like signal beam), but maybe that can be a property of the "Wave" type, where depending on which deals more damage, it can be either type? Or maybe the entirety of the offensive Wave type is determined by other types, while the users get stab as well as unique defensive properties. Almost like the inverse of the Stellar type.

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>mfw there are all these hidden mechanics about different stats and genders and abilities
Was this always the case? I don't remember anything like that when I played the GBC games

>>58545393
IVs and EVs were in the games from the beginning, though as DVs and stat exp. Genders were added in gen 2 and abilities in 3.

>>58545393
Don't forget the hidden move interactions
>Earthquake hitting for double damage through Dig invincibility
>Thunder doing the same for Fly invincibility
>Stomp doing the same for Minimize
stuff like this made dealing with bullshit less annoying because there was usually some hidden counterplay

>>58545451
>>Thunder doing the same for Fly invincibility
Don't forget Gust and Twister.

>>58543384
Can't you catch a Geodude in Dark Cave?

>>58544964
I can't tell of you are tolling or just retarded. That would look awful.

>>58543865
>nobody cares
>seething so hard he writes a wall of text
Pick one

>play an optional challenge that the game wasnt designed or balanced for
>gets upset when his complaints are ignored
Is that the gist of the issue?

>>58545569
*trolling

>>58538539
There's an open-source implementation of the battle speedup and there are tutorials for speeding up text, so adding those features to the vanilla decomps or any open-source hack should be pretty easy. For games other than that it's possible, but you probably wouldn't be able to do it.

>>58545021
The problem is that most Pokémon types are taken from classic RPGs
>Elemental types: Fire, Ice, Water, Ground, Rock, Electric, Grass and Dark to some extent (Darkness attribute)
>"Monster" types: Dragon, Fairy, Steel, Bug
Psyquic is pretty much a generic "mind" or "magic" type, Fighting is the closest to generic Physical/Force attacks, same with Normal type, Poison is treated as a status ailment in most games so that's an oddity
Realistically that leaves only "Light" or "Holy" types to be added, there's also an argument for a "Wind" type but I feel Flying covers it
Also again adding a non-Elemental type like Sound or Wave will requiere heavy balancing to make it work

>>58545762
>Realistically that leaves only "Light" or "Holy" types
Fairy?

>>58545762
Forgot to mention Ghost on the "Monster" type section, I think you get the idea: there's not a lot that can be added to the type chart without it feeling gimmicky or Fan-fiction tier (Sure Stellar exists as a type but it's first and foremost a battle gimmick, not a permanent part of the type chart)

>>58545774
You could say that, yeah
I was thinking more Holy/Sacred element since Fairy is more Girly/Fae related than angelic desu

>>58545782
Togekiss is about the closest this series has to an angel, and was retconned to be a Fairy as soon as the type was introduced.
>since Fairy is more Girly/Fae related than angelic desu
A lot of the types can serve multiple themes. Flying for wind and birds, Ground for mud, clay, sand, or bone, Grass for all kinds of plant and fungi.
I do agree that there isn't a whole lot of wiggle room when it comes to adding on to the existing type chart. Popular choices like Sound already exist as a move property.

>>58531183
https://rainbowdevs.com/title/rijonadventures/

I've seen hardly any talk of this. It's a vanilla-ish new region hack and while I haven't played the 2015 version I know the 2009 beta goes up to Rijon's Elite Four.

>>58545812
I still can't believe he named the region after a weird spelling of "region."

>>58545797
>Togekiss is about the closest this series has to an angel, and was retconned to be a Fairy as soon as the type was introduced
Fair
>A lot of the types can serve multiple themes
Absolutely, but Fairy doesn't strike me as Holy/Angelic type but more cutesy/somewhat-nature/Precure themed based on both Move descriptions and fairy mon designs (not saying it can't be Holy themed, just that the Holy theme is weak overall)
Something similar happens with the Dark type where a lot of moves are Feral/Cruel (stuff like Bite, Beat up and such) but also as a traditional Darkness type with moves like Dark Void, Dark Pulse or Night Daze

>>58545841
Gadevoir is also somewhat of a guardian(angel), despite not having the visage of one. This also applies to the Tapus.
It's not leaned into as much as general fairies/mythical creatures, or even foodmons, but it's still there.

>>58545860
Granted Gardevoir is a weird case where the guardian angel theme predates Fairy type (same for Togekiss) but if GF leaned more into the Angelic/Holy aspects of Fairy type then nobody would bat an eye

>>58545881
TPC probably wants to distance itself from religion as much as possible. The best we'll get are "guardians" or "blessings."

>>58545881
NTA but I think people are kinda forgetting thet Dark is known as the Evil type in japanese. Going off that, fairy is just trying to be the opposite of Evil by being something inherently good-natured, which is why Gardevoir got the Fairy type, since it's meant to be a noble knight (hence its japanese name being literally Sir Knight). The fact they chose Fairy at all definitely makes it confusing though, but the only opposite term I could think for an Evil type would be a Hero type, but that feels like it's overlap too much with Fighting type.

>>58545884
Makes sense, they play it safe
>>58545887
>but the only opposite term I could think for an Evil type would be a Hero type, but that feels like it's overlap too much with Fighting type.
Well Fighting type kinda works like a Hero type sometimes, but it's mostly a Martial Arts/Physical type.
The only mons I can thing of that fit the "Hero" bill would be the Swords of Justice, Chesnaught, Sirfetch'd, the Zamas Dogs and Iron Valiant

>>58545905
Even if Zacian is not fighting for some reason lol

>>58545905
Yeah no matter how you slice it, the Hero type just isn't intuitive. Fairy at least has the benefit of being associated with cute or beautiful things, as well as being vaguely associated with bugs. There's a lot more to go off than the vague concept of being heroic. Light is really the only appropriate opposite of Dark/Evil linguistiucally, but it's a lot harder to associate something with Light than it is with Dark. Sunflora being a Grass/Light type would be pretty funny to see though.

>>58545921
I mean a Hero type would add more problems for mons like Escavalier, Gallade, Lokix or Palafin imo since so far all of those are Knight/Chivalry related or Kamen Rider/Superhero themed

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Still waiting

>>58546117
nothing ever happens chuddy

>>58545812
added :)

>>58544753
inagine if that guy comes across a FEAR

>>58543384
In one hand, yeah they should playtest those difficulty options to at least be beatable cuz damn that sounds like a straight softlock but also anon how the fuck do you plan to deal with this without it murdering you?
>perfect IVs
>Scaling EVs for enemy trainers depending on badges
>No EVs

>challenge fag still mad about it after all this time
Touch grass lmao

>>58537891
if i was better at programming or something it'd be a great idea, but unfortunately i have no technical ability

>>58545938
Sadly pokemon is a slug, snake, frog triangle for a hero type it would need.
>Maou type
>Hero Type
>Champion type
>Champion is strong against hero, hero is strong against maou, maou is strpng against champion.
Sadly most rom hack devs just make a shitty rock sissors shit ignoring the system and end up with a broken hack which is true.
That's why you have 3 mons at start, water is strong against fire, fire is strong against grass, grass is strong against water.

>>58546754
In that case adding any new types to counter Dark is ignoring the triangle that exists in the game.
>Dark beats Psychic
>Psychic beats Fighting
>Fighting beats Dark
and in reverse the type either resists what it's strong against, or in Dark's case is immune to Psychic.

>>58546787
Is there any other RPG "Monster" type missing?
Elemental types are pretty much covered unless you want to add combined elements like dunno "Plasma" type or more neutral types like Artema from FF or Almighty/Nuclear Damage from SMT
Something like "Beast" type maybe? Although a bit too generic

>>58546837
What would a beast type even encompass?

>>58546837
>Artema
Well, Arutema in JP, Ultima in English (too much time playing FF on moon runes and the autocorrect doing stuff)

>>58546837
I guess maybe a Slime type? That could fit the water type, but those are often fish in Pokemon.

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>>58546870
Good question, I got the idea from Etrian Odyssey, in that game they are just Mammals (mostly Carnivores)
Too generic imo, basically any Route 1/mammal based mon would be considered a "Beast" type

>>58546907
I guess if you really wanted, you could split Normal up into "Beast" and "Artificial."

>>58546911
Saying that, I did totally forget about the Smolive and Helioptile lines. Regigias wouldn't fit, either.

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>>58546901
I feel that would be Water/Poison or just Mono Water/Poison (Slimes are often depicted as made of corrosive substances)
Vega had a Water Starter with that line of thought (with a bit of Chaos from Sonic mixed in)

>>58546911
I think the real problem is how you only have 2 types (and 2 Egg Groups) to define what is a mon

Also the fact that Water type is perhaps a bit too generic of a type? In any other RPG you could split Water into Fish, Amphibian, Water Elemental and Semi-Aquatic monsters same applies to other types to a lesser extent (Ghost being anything Undead/Paranormal, Flying being anything with functional wings regardless of being a Lizard, Bird or Bat and so on)

>>58546787
That's not a type triangle and I'm tired of pretending it is.

>>58546942
Splitting up types like that would only really work if you design a whole suite of monsters for it. You destroy so many movepools and sets by making everything have a unique type. Maybe if there was a distinction between offensive and defensive types.

>>58546948
For what reason? Because they have other weaknesses/resistances? Better recheck Fire, Water, Grass buddy.

>>58546980
Because Dark just shuts Psychic down, anon.

>>58546986
And? Anything that resists a type shuts it down, immunity is just more direct about it.

>>58546980
Water can hit grass, grass can hit fire, and fire can hit water. Psychic can't hit dark at all.
The only other triangles are Fighting/Rock/Flying, Fire/Steel/Rock, Ground/Poison/Grass, and Fairy/Fighting/Steel

>>58546980
>>58546993
F/W/G and Rock/Flying/Fighting are triangles because they're symmetrical. Dark/Psychic/Fighting is a triangle because the Dark/Psychic interaction is not consistent with the other sides of the triangle.

>>58547002
>>58547005
This feels pedantic. You could argue none of those other triangles are true triangles because not all the types resist themself like with Fire/Water/Grass. As long as the matchup is favorable and disfavorable in opposing directions, it's a triangle.

>>58546972
Unfortunately yeah, Pokémon is simple yet elegant but that also comes with it's own problems so overcomplicating it with a dozen new types doesn't seem ideal

>>58547019
>As long as the matchup is favorable and disfavorable in opposing directions, it's a triangle.
It's not the same unfavorable matchup for all 3.

>>58547034
NTA but I get they were trying to damage control Psyquic type being overpowered in Gen 1 but was an outright immunity necessary? Couldn't they nerf the Psyquic type and leave Dark with a Resist?

>>58547024
I don't think it's unfortunate at all, it's just how the game was designed. If it's in the water, it's a water type.

>>58547058
A lot of Dark types don't actually have strong special defense, so a resist doesn't do much.

>>58547061
meant for >>58547051

>>58547058
Sure, it works and honestly makes sense, Pokémon isn't trying to be complex even if sometimes it doesn't make a lot of sense (Clobbopus not being Water type for instance)

>>58547061
True but then that seems like GF didn't put a lot of thought to what was supposed to be the Psiquic type killer (the same way they keep doing slow and defensive Ice types/Rock types when it clearly doesn't work)

>>58547069
Clobbopus is the only real instance of it, but you can still find it on land.

>>58547080
Oh no I don't mean just Type oddities, just design oddities in general like Archen being Water 3 for some reason or certain move pool choices

How easy is it to make new modes in essentials?
If I wanted something that functioned using the combat system as a base but applied to something entirely different like how contests are, does that require a ton of unique scripting?

Wonder why nobody has made something like gta but with pokemon, is not like the themes aren't there.
We got a gta conker hack with a link to the past.

>>58547122
what the fuck does "like gta" even mean in this context

>>58547122
You just reminded me of this
https://www.gamebrew.org/wiki/GTA_Pokemon

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>>58545688
No, it might be tolling.

>>58547181
Shootouts with Officer Jenny(s)

>>58547122
isn't that just palworld

>>58547122
>gta conker hack with a link to the past
What? No we didn't. High Rule Tail was an extensive edit of LttP, but it still played like a Zelda game.

>>58547298
that's just taxation doe

>>58547100
Jusy learn to code on ruby and that's it, is all you need to work on rpg maker.

>>58545762
>>58545841
Maybe pokemon doesn't work with a "holy" type? Even dark types aren't truly evil like aspects you'd have in other rpgs. Pokemon are "monsters" yes, but they function quite similarly to animals. The equivalent of the creator, doesn't seem to concerned with moral goodness nearly as much as protecting the fabric of space time. Pure morality generally seems to be less of a factor in pokemon lore. No Pokemon should be a "holy" type, as they are all capable of good and evil.

>>58547994
Makes sense, my point is that something like "Sound" or "Wave" or "Space" type wouldn't make that much sense but something like dunno "Demon", "Angel" or "Light" would make more sense if you had to add another type to the chart (even then I think the type chart is fine, although some small tweaks would be nice, like maybe Fire hitting Super-Effectively against Fairy types?)